Assassin's Creed 3 Ending and why It's Not Enough
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- Опубліковано 16 вер 2024
- By now, many people who have played "Assassin's Creed III" have beaten it, and many of those people hate the ending. Jeremy talks about what went wrong with the Assassin's Creed III ending.
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I honestly believe that the Assassin's Creed series should have ended with a modern day one. You can all hate on me now, but I honestly believe a game where you completely play as Desmond would've been a fantastic game.
This was the original plan 12 games aka 12 sequences and the final game being Desmond having all the experience skill charisma of all his ancestors defeating the templars for good but sadly Ubisoft saw only money in the franchise......
Ah... no. It would be a terrible game.
JustAdo 6 games not 12
Is Assassins Creed old enough for a reboot?
ive been wanting nothing but to see them make a MODERN day AC game (or like 2020+) but still. please ubisoft, please us again!
AC3 killed my desire to play the next game. Im playing AC4 and the modern day story is probably the most unnesecsary thing ever
It's the worst part of the game. I just want to run around, and be a pirate. Seriously no one cares about the animus anymore, its just tedious.
Happened to me too. I'm playing the AC IV just because I found the Unity trailer awesome and I gave one more chance to the serie. I didn't regret though... the sea battles are amazing and the game is beatiful. Everything they screwed up in the third they make it right in the IV (talking not about the modern history, but the gameplay an history from the assassin's period).
its the best modern day story they ever put in an ac game... AKA its actually smart, well written, and tense as all fuck... plus the story got incredibly meta, which i adore.
In the whole series, the modern day shit has been, shit.
Luckily its a tiny part of the game.
killing desmond is like killing mario, you basically killed the franchise
***** completely agree. the first assassin creed games no one cared for desmond we just wanted to play as the assassin, but as the games went on we got some character development, he anchor or tied everything back together in the real world. now the AC doesnt have that person. Ac games lack that real world side story
I never gave a shit abt Desmond.
The game is way to short I finished it in 3 weeks if u don't believe me ask my parents
i found the Desmond story of AC to be quite interesting until they killed Lucy in Brotherhood only to found out she was axed so ubisoft could save availability time and money on actor Kristen Bell with a plot twist of a triple agent. if Desmonds boring story in AC3 wasnt a kick in the nuts for fans the lazy ending is.
+Themanjb123 they killed desmond?! WHAAAAAAAAT!
If someone's wondering, there was an alternate direction for the ending of the franchise and for Desmond as a character.
Basically Desmond was meant to be able to fight Juno through time traveling and the use of all the assassin abilities he inherited from Altaïr, Ezio and Connor... You know, all what he was in the animus for during the previous 5 games...
A complete shame they didn't concluded this saga the way it was meant to be. All that potential lost for nothing. -__-
This franchise had a ridiculous amount of potential.
First they killed off Lucy, which was fine I guess. Then they kept on with these stupid yearly releases and glitchy games. And ubisoft had the balls to kill off the main character. so stupid.
I agree that would be awesome why couldn't we have that ending
***** you shut the fuck up!!!
+Taylor Williams i agree desmond shouldn't have been killed off because i liked desmond and why couldn't the father be the one to sacrifice himself
***** you sound like the fucking kid. You actually like playing this shit after Desmond died? C'mon now.
They fucking killed him. Now three years on and they are slowly killing the franchise
Yeah they have no direction with this franchise.
+Taylor Williams the direction is money
Yup
You consider the barely playable messes that were Unity and Syndicate are a " slow " death to you?
it's getting fucked agreed BUT there is still a little bit of hope, UNLESS Ubisoft decides to release Juno and enslave every fan.
I liked Desmond and the present day story, fuck me right? I hate what they did to it in AC IV black flag.
Thanks to the bleeding effect Desmond learned everything from Altair, Ezio and Connor. He became the perfect Assassin, how cool would it be if he actually helped the modern day Assassins and became their leader? They could make like two more historical Assassin's Creed games (France, Egypt or maybe Asia), Seeing Desmond become The Mentor and than make a present day Assissin's Creed, Assassins VS Abstergo (Templars), or let them team up to kick Juno's ass and deal with eachother in a sequel.
Joey Deguelle i am with you on this, i really liked Desmons story i thought it was leading up to something big, something like that idea of him being a leader etc i was very dissapointed.
Joey Deguelle AC IV is pure shit!!!!
+Sergio Andres Covers Fuck off, it's the second best game in the franchise.
+Joey Deguelle i totally agree
I love Altair, that dude gave no fucks.
A five-minute fart over credits would have been a more satisfying ending.
Lmfao.
Sad thing is now there's no one to continue that badass Assassin bloodline.
awesomekid120 Not unless Desmond screwed around a bit and unknowingly has a child out there.
I hope so lol
awesomekid120 Or they clone Desmond to see more of the genetic memory using First Civilization Technology.
Judah Black unless everyone had one son or daughter.
Judah Black she... might have died.
the modern day story and the AC franchise died with desmond, now the game should be called "hackers creed"
This helps me remember why I liked AC franchise so much, that Desmond Minerva discourse through Ezio was some elevated shit, where did that magic go?
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It seems likely that the reason why Desmond was terminated is because if that were not the case; the historical animus venturing would not logically have to happen in the story preceding the events and the franchise would not be liable to excessive milking as the entire story from the beginning of the franchise seemed to arrive at an end.
+jay frost They pulled a Supernatural here, if you know about that show in particular.
I really would've liked an Assassin's Creed game based entirely around Desmond. Now I know I'm never going to get it.
The day they killed off Desmond and the rest of the gang is the day I lost interest in the Assassin's Creed series...
Lucy and Desmond are deceased. Rebecca, Shaun, and I think William Miles are still alive. Why these characters are mentioned at all now is beyond me since Desmond's long gone.
eh Black flags was awesome. Though i really gave no shit about the modern time parts in Black Flags and just enjoyed Edwards story and gameplay. You are missing out.
@@kaein2973 i played Black flag and had great fun with it but it feels like a great pirate game not so much an AC game
I really wanted an Assassin's Creed game where you're just in the present and going after the big man and ending it awesomely. instead you kill the only person that can do it. I hope the guy in AC4 is Desmond or at least as useful as Desmond should have been.
I agree. They keep telling us over the course of the games that the Present is pretty much completely controlled by the Templars, well then they really should make a game in Assassin's Creed where you are playing in the Modern day and take out the Templars in Modern day. The problem with that and why they won't do that is because the people who make these games do not really care what is happening in the modern day in their games, as that's just the framing device and an excuse to get them in the animus so they can explore the past and that is what they really care about. If that is what they are going to be caring about, we do not need the Animus to tie it together. You could tell a better more continuous story if you cut out the Animus parts and just kept doing new time periods until eventually you got to the modern day. If you are not going to care about the characters and world that exist in the modern day portion of your franchise, then why have them at all is my question.
MrHistoryBuff1 EXACTLY!
MrHistoryBuff1
Alex Ross
AC4 Sadly answers your question.
*****
I know, I haven't gotten to the end of the game yet so I do not know everything yet, but I have met our new protagonist, who has no face, doesn't talk, and doesn't even have a proper name and am most disappointed in him. I much preferred Desmond and must say that, for all of the flak desmond caught, he was much better then the new guy as at least Desmond had a personality, even if a lot of people thought it was an annoying one, uninteresting, or just plain bad one
Watch Dogs was suppose to be present day Assassin's Creed until they changed their minds, However it remains to be a spin off of Assassin's Creed. We'll soon find out as soon as it's released.
Great video; Ubisoft totally dropped the ball with Desmond and clearly didn't view him how we did. They disposed of Desmond to get rid of the modern day overarching story because too many people complained about the cut scenes plus newcomers would feel intimidated by all intricately woven mythology to get through. It was all about appeasing the masses as opposed to the die hard AC fans.
Thank you for putting it so well.
Just beat it, and the bit about Desmond's story's ending being another cliffhanger really rung true with me.
I have no idea how I got here today, nor why I'm leaving a comment on this 9 y/o video, but... I'd totally love to hear your reaction to all the stuff that's happened to the franchise since AC3, Jahns. A looooot to say there, I'm sure. 😂
I have a theory. Remember in AC2 when Lucy was training Desmond, and he was hallucinating Altair's memories? Well, if you notice, Desmond never makes it back to the room when he has a full on hallucination of Altair, he remembers Altair running somewhere and having sex with Maria. Well, what if this memory was also happening between Desmond and Lucy? I mean, it really was just a hallucination of a memory, meaning he had to have been doing something for real, and Lucy acts strange the next day.
Awesome! Congrats! I didn't have the patience to end this game .. seriously, I tried so hard to enjoy Assassin's Creed III, I made it through the memory sequence 8, but in the end, I just watched the ending on youtube :/ The best Assassins's Creed until now, in my opinion, was II. I have a good feeling about Black Flag. Gonna start playing it again now. Keep the good stuff Jeremy.
This is kinda funny in 2021 both Desmond and boba fett are still alive
The mission where you get to play as Desmond in Modern day going to save his dad was awesome. I would love a linear Assassin's Creed game in Modern day mixing in the melee with the pistol gameplay. That mission was awesome and I hope one day we get it.
Ubi lost me on AC3. Been always on spot on release dates until AC4, didn't even bother geekin' out. The present story mattered to me more, its anti-climactic unlike the others. There is no big secret reveal at the ending. Those were pretty awesome.
The biggest part about the assassins creed 3 ending I took away from this video you made. Is that YOU are Desmond Miles. You’ve got the entire look, nose and all. You are 100% the spitting image of the character we played as. So tell me Desmond. What are feeling at the end of YOUR story?
If only Ubisoft listened to JeremyJahns. Your commentary on Mass Effect 3 and Assassin's Creed 3 are spot on.
Actually, I LOVED the ending to the Desmond saga. I watched the ending when I finished the game. And I sat with this emptiness. I had worked with this character, learned of him, by him, with him. And then he gets killed in that way. And I just sat back with this feeling that it was a endless battle. That the fight would go on, and Desmond's story hadn't mattered that much. And THAT I think is a PERFECT ending to his saga, his legacy. It could have included a bonding moment for him and his father, but that is not what it is about. It's about a unexperienced guy fighting a neverending battle, for the sake of helping the people around him. And THAT is freaking cool..
Talk about the assassins creed 4 ending!
I like how everyone hates on Connor and compare him with Ezio, when Ezio was not likeable when Assassin's Creed 2 was out. People didn't like Altair either in the first. Yet after 3 games which also feature Altair, Ezio and Altiar are suddenly liked. As for Connor everyone wants to quickly be ethnocentric and have expectations with high standards because they have Ezio's hidden blade up their ass, and others "lost interest" on the series. I know once Connor gets another game, he will be liked because everyone are just zombies and follow any arrogant stupidity. But It's good to know Jeremy likes Connor and not be ethnocentric about it :-)
Actually, Connor fights for both Colonist and his people's freedom only to find out that he needed to fight for his own. You don't seem to pay any attention to the character development unless there is money, women, and wealth with some narcissistic complex like Ezio. Also seeing how you are an Ezio fan clearly shows that you most likely have this idea that if the assassins do not live up to Ezio's standards, then they will automatically suck. Despite that you will not open your mind about Connor, I will give you facts. Yes, Connor is different, That's what makes him unique, his negativity about certain things are believable because he apprehends that not all things work the way they're suppose to. He also is a man of a few words, and yes he shows emotions in the game, He smiled once, and had many times when he was pissed off, he even often shouts at the naval missions. During the homestead missions, Connor helps people out and provides land as well as shelter to people that were living in a difficult life within the colonies. Even during their times living there, Connor provides help for his new neighbors. This also proves that he is endearing in which you failed to comprehend and understand. As for the revenge, not only he lost his mother, but his close friends he grew up with which his closest friend betrayed Connor by siding with the very man who caused his mother's death. Oh, another thing which you clearly failed to realize, which is the purpose of understanding all AC game's surroundings. History. Altair's story in AC1 was the third crusades, playing as a Muslim warring with Christian Templars is interesting and insane. Now back to AC3, Yes, At that time period the Native Americans were getting decimated by almost all settlers, The American revolution happen years after the 7 Years War which includes the French and Indian war. The tribes were going through a big devastation only to go through a condemned path. With all that happening I don't see how Connor would smile all the time and be humorous about things when he is surrounded by rapes of his people and culture. It makes Connor interesting. However, since you did not pay attention, nor have historic knowledge on understanding and you clearly don't want to unless it has something to do with Ezio. Your comment is an empty one. You clearly haven't and won't open your mind about Connor or Altair. By the way, The game also has historical documents stating what happened before, during and after that era.
Chief Godstaff I full on agree with you.
Connor was a selfish bastard that for no one but himself, he made that mistake and lost his tribe. He was so gulluble and couldnt see he was being used.
Emilio Lewis How was he selfish, he went completely out of is way to try and save his tribe, he saved quite a number of people and brought them to the homestead and also tried to bring his Father back from the templars.
Emilio Lewis Connor was not selfish, he tried to help people as much as he can by his will. He was gullible because he's an honest individual and has expectation from his so called allies. Lol, You clearly don't pay attention to shit. Your comprehension and your spelling is as good as rat shit. Read some books and stay in school, kid.
Well to me without Desmond what's the point in the AC franchise. I still have mix feelings about Desmond end. :/
I actually heard that a lot of people hated Desmond because they just wanted to play as the Assassin and not have to go through all the modern stuff.
They sound like they're being impatient.
yeah people come for the game and not the ridiculous (yet well done) sub-plot
Jeremy Parkinson I actually found the sub-plot somewhat interesting. Whether fan's liked Desmond or not, for the first five games everything seemed to center around him and everyone kept telling him that he's the one to save the world. That was a lot of build up. I kept thinking by the time we get to the third game it's probably going to be the big epic climax, race against the clock kind of thing. But the ending of Assassin's Creed III was somewhat of a letdown and a copout. Desmond just pushes a button, machine kills him, BOOM! World saved. And since Ubisoft is still continuing the franchise which I have no problem with since I'm a huge fan of it, it makes Desmond's character and sacrifice seem both pointless and not all that important.
When Desmond and Lucy are going through the caves to Mont......... That's probably one of my fav parts.
It was tedious but it was quite literally only because of pacing. Desmond was weak and didn't really do anything and when we did play Desmond it was always as either walking or parkour in an enclosed environment aka freaking annoying. Perhaps people wouldn't have minded as much if Desmond was first person experience and they did a short parkour experience like that. All of a sudden you would feel more connected to the character. Playing as kyle crain and Henry from KCD deliverance was a lovely experience.
Jeremy. Do a review on Assassins Creed IV Black Flag!
"Boba fetting" while waiting for the Book of Boba Fett after watching The Mandalorian.
Man i hope you review AC4. Really want to hear what you thought about it.
Whoa! Idea!
What if:
Desmond has his conciseness uploaded to the temple or a piece if eden so that he could in some way live on and pass his story on to another assassin? Imagine Desmond sharing his journey through holograms like the ones who came before did.
Just a theory...
dude desmond is alive look at the video
Hussain Radwan No he is not as seen in the autopsy report for his dead body in assassins creed 4 where they CUT HIM OPEN AND CUT OFF HIS ARM!!!!
ThePowerVolt it was faked by the two people that help desmond via computer hacks to fake the death of Desmond Miles and the body was a fake.
TheDarylDixonOfRblox listen:
1. the fact that you don't know their names tells me that you don't play the series and you know nothing.
2. YOU CAN'T FAKE THE DEATH IF TWO GODS TELL YOU THAT YOU ARE GOING TO DIE IF YOU DO IT!!!!!!
TheDarylDixonOfRblox woah woah woah. don't get hostile man. i was wrong to type in caps and say you know nothing but my point is that he is dead.
WHY ARE YOU NOT TALKING ABOUT CONNER'S ENDING?? THAT'S THE ENDING THAT ACTUALLY PISSED ME OFF CAUSE I DON'T GIVE A SHIT ABOUT DESMOND!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! TALK ABOUT HOW SHITTY CONNER'S ENDING WAS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! IT WAS TOO SHORT CAUSE HE JUST KILLS CHARLES LEE AND THE END. MAKE A VIDEO ABOUT THAT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Really??? Didn't know.
Oh. True.
Come on Jeremy give us that AC 4 review already DAMNIT!!!
Ubisoft needs to remaster AC3 and elaborate on the ending, give us more dialogue, give the situation more gravity.
Mike McLean AC3 is getting a remaster now
I'm from the future ac3 did get remastered
@@SN4KE3ATERyep but the ending stayed the same
I'm just tried of Assassins Creed in general. They really need to start a new Prince of Persia series. Now, the Sands of Time trilogy was one of the most epic adventure trilogies I have ever had the pleasure to play and they didn't screw up the one minute ending by the third game either. It was perfect. If only they could do this again.
The Forgotten Sands is one of the most underrated games I have played in the last generation of consoles. It's length bothered me (as the original PoP games took me a month or so to beat whereas this one took me a week) but the gameplay, mechanics and story all worked well together and fit in well with the Prince of Persia canon
Yeah the buttons felt like they lost the sort of combo-technique that previous games had. But the game as a whole holds its own as a great series entry. Ubisoft are in talks of making a new PoP game based after Two Thrones...As long as it makes sense I'm all for it!
Assassins creed........ is beter........nuf said
Actually Assassin's Creed is not as good as Prince of Persia is. It's sad that AC3 doesn't hold a candle to Warrior Within which came out years ago
Michael Andrews Ok so what your telling me is that you think prince of persia's architecture, story line, combat, settings and characters match up to the standards of AC?
I stopped caring about the story after AC3. I expected an epic conclusion to something. Not another "plot twist" cliffhanger bullshit that wastes Desmond's character. He just pushes the button and dies. No heartfelt talk with his father, no resolution with anything. If Ubisoft screwed that up then what hope is there.
How do you know Fett died in the Sarlacc Pit? That might sound like a dumb question, but really think about it. Sure he flew into the Sarlacc Pit, but you didn't technically see him die. It's not like when his jet pack was hit it blew up, blowing him to pieces or when he fell into the Sarlacc Pit it's not like it grinded him up into pieces. C3-PO said it takes the Sarlacc a 1000 years to digest it's prey, and knowing Fett's skills as Bounty Hunter and Mandorlion that would give him plenty of time to escape. Even Lucas said when making the Special Edition for Return of the Jedi he thought about adding a scene in which Fett escapes the Sarlacc Pit.
Assasins creed was my favourite game franchise up until ubisoft said the game will never end and they're just using the cod formula, plus AC black flag did absolutely nothing to push the story forward, had characters you couldn't give 2 fucks about even when they died. Ubisoft will milk this shit out until they won't make there money back.
But after that rant I will still buy AC unity lol
The reason they killed off Desmond is because people started complaining to UBisoft saying that "Desmond's story is boring, all I want is to go back to the animus and play as the main assassin." Desmond was supposed to be in two or three more games, he was to find the ancestor of Eve then mentor her in the ways of a Assassin which would open the animus to a whole new line of Assassins. Killing off Desmond was a huge mistake on UBisoft's part.
+Joker2CoLex that sounds really cool. can you cite the source so i can see if it really is true cuz im gonna be pretty depressed at that missed oportunity
I now wish that the developers had Desmond’s father sacrifice himself by releasing Juno instead of Desmond
I feel almost the same every time a AC game ends. There just leaving you for almost a whole year to ponder about whats going to happen next. It wasn't really bad as it was more annoying to think that they decided to make another ending like this. Plus Desmond was pretty badass and killing him off seemed wrong. I almost never wanted to finish AC3 because I knew something bad was going to happen to him.
you got to admit its the best story line from a game.
play bioshock infinite
Mass Effect.
CesarTheKing walking dead
***** dead space trilogy
Desi Thing ok but ac dominates
Jeremy is right Desmond had come very far not just because he had a destiny to fulfil but the plot of AC2 was for Ezio to train Desmond through the Animus, not only that Altaïr & Ezio became mentors & even Connor had his own recruits.
Three generations of leaders in the Assassin order Desmond wouldn't only know how to fight & climb like them but he would've had a “Strong” military mind for it & all the sealed memories of Altaïr reclaiming Masyaf & becoming Mentor in Revelation & two decades of train recruits in Brotherhood & Revelation (along with the whole den defence too) Desmond had the potential to be “The Mentor”
In AC4 they have recordings, you see how much desmond has grown, it made me miss him, really. And then I think: WHY THE FUCK HAVEN'T YOU DONE THAT IN AC3?
The video that made me subscribe to Jeremy
Of course it is amazing when put together, and I also caught that Eve thing in Liberation. But I just checked AC3's ending, we only get a split second shot of his arm post toasting, and it is through Juno, so it isn't a clear enough shot to say whether or not it is still cooked or healed.
After Desmond's death, the franchise was pretty meh. I liked Black Flag and Syndicate though. Black Flag's naval combat was pretty fun and Syndicate had wonderful mechanics and likable characters. My problem with Syndicate however, it was pretty short and the story slightly felt rushed. Syndicate wasn't bad but it doesn't live up to Desmond's story. It's just an opinion, whatever floats your boat.
Same.
AC 3, not great, Desmond being, EVEN WORSE!
Miss, Desmond. :(
And once again the final question: How was the world saved? They didn't even try to explain it.
killing desmond screwed up ubisoft they don't know where to go from here killing desmond seemed like a good call but so far ubisoft are fucking up the whole story so yeah if handled correctly this could've been a great call
No it could have been a good call, if they focused on society crumbling to minerva, or more apple slaves like in the first game. There's always potential, I just don't even know what happened, maybe it's just they were so focused on making yearly releases that they just had to forget story, hence why everything was cut off so abruptly.
Fingers crossed for the next game? I feel silly just saying it
I think that Ubisoft should completely get rid of the animus because nobody gives a fuck about it
We, the real AC fans, do...
I think they should continue the ending via a short clip with the Black Flag game, maybe have his dad come up to Desmond and say something special whilst Desmond is cluthcin to his last minutes of life and the rest of the crew are around him kinda thing.
lol no
Desmond will always have a place in my heart.
Why no review for AC4?
I always liked Desmond, from assassins creed 1 I was waiting for a Desmond only game to appear in which he could use all of the skills he had learned yet the only in the future / present day scenes that came was rather flat and unimaginative. No modern titanium hidden blade, new age no decoys, super slick no rope utilities, just Desmond running around Brazil and Sky scrapers occasionally picking up guns.
FUCK YES! JEREMY LIKES ASSASSINS creed and so do I, I also like caps lock a bit.
So far Assassins Creed games with the new engine (Unity, Syndicate) the story sucked ass, barely any character development, mostly missions for people, assassinations, and done. We dont learn much about their drive (except Arno but I didn't sympathize with him as I did ezio). I'd say Rogue did this better than those two games and it was the shortest fucking story ever. Come on cuh stop making noob moves
Smoove.
I love AC series, its my favorite saga of all time, thats why it was such a hard hit when they came up with this ending... the only way this ending would not.. suck, and actually helps to finish the saga fantastic story, which, it was poorly developed in AC3, is that AC4 does what AC3 couldnt, keep developing the mysticisim of the assasins, the fantastic story it had so far, and actually come up with a final, and satisfying ending for such a great story. I really hope that happens
The assassins creed franchise may have died with Desmond, sad to say.
AC4 was a phenomenal game, so I don't think it died because of Desmond leaving.
AC4 had a great concept and was a pretty good game but they just lost the heart of the story in my opinion.
nikanik96 Fair enough. To me, the story is about two groups of people racing to find some magical artifacts, and in that sense Black Flag fits in perfectly.
Please please please please PLEASE do an AC4 review!
Watching this 7 years later and have no answer as to why.
HEAVY RAIN Please do a review about HEAVY RAIN
I love assassins creed but that ending was crap
the thing i still don't get, Minerva tells Desmond that it is centuries too late to stop 'the end' from coming...then why the hell did she tell Desmond through Ezio (end of AC2) that it was all up to him? He was born in 1987, still centuries too late to do anything. She should have been telling Ezio, 'Hey. Go here, and start working on this so that the world doesn't end.' Or talked to Altair even; how many years of his life did he sit there and study the Apple? If it was already centuries too late before Desmond was even born, what was the point in talking to him in the first place?
AC 3 was the beginning of the end... black flag was fun, but it wasn't an assassin's creed story... and Unity, well, that was one of the blandest games I ever played... And even though, I love the Victorian age and the Idea of a female protagonist and all that stuff... I can't help but feel that the next game will be mediocre at best... The spark has been extinguished...
The Assassin's Creed story revolves around two groups racing to find ancient artifacts. Ergo, AC4 was an Assassin's Creed story.
@@Vic2point0 Edward was not even a true assassin and for some reason he had the eagle vision for no reason and did the synchronization jump with no training
@@sketchstevens5859 If you mean the "leap of faith", he never called it that anywhere in the game. Jumping from a viewpoint was the player's action, not even necessarily something Edward ever did in canon (note that you gain synchronization by viewing not by jumping). The synchronization aspect can just be interpreted as you getting to know a location as well as Edward did.
And you're right that he wasn't an assassin throughout the in-game events, but so what? Doesn't change the nature of the story itself, or the focus being on the artifacts just as it always was. Similarly, eagle vision was explained in the game as a rare skill not necessarily unique to assassins. Nor was it *taught* by assassins; it's introduced more like something which is innate.
Thank you for speaking everything I felt! That wasn't a satisfying end to Desmond at all! After everything that happened and seeing the ending... I just felt like I wasted my time and energy. Desmond's sacrifice should have meant something. Should have meant more, but it didn't. Maybe they might find a way to turn this... maybe have Desmond appear in the animus... or what about when 16 saved him... there might be a loophole there that at least allows Desmond to still be the hero by possibly "living" on in some way.
Is it just me, or does it seem like Juno and Minerva's civilization was Krypton. Technologically advanced, destroyed planet, tries to save other planet through a special guy.
First Civ's planet was Earth..
"Nothing is true, everything is permitted." Desmond could very well be brought back (if he is really gone to begin with). Wait until the ending of the actual story, before deciding that the "ending" of any single game (which is only a cliffhanger, let's be honest) wasn't "enough".
***** "yeah sure lets wait for 20 years as the templars become game developers and Juno some internet virus for 19 of the the 20 years with no progression to the story whatsoever just for that final game in which desmond may or may not come back and Juno may or may not enslave human kind and we may or may not get the epic battle we wanted."
That is of course an exaggeration, but yes, that's the idea. You wait until you finish a story before deciding that everything either ties together perfectly or the whole thing fails. Now you can say that you personally have lost *interest* in the story because it's taking too long in your opinion, but that's not an objective argument.
"4 games after, still nothing is happening. so for you to say lets wait is just ridiculous"
*Plenty* of things are happening; they're just not giving us closure on the entire story. But again, they're not *supposed* to.
First, especially seeing as how they crank out a new AC game roughly once a year, whereas other game developers take longer, we should go by years rather than games. Second, why are video games held to the standard of wrapping their stories up in a few years, but nothing else? TV series last, ideally, for twice that long and no one complains. Movie series are about the same deal. But video games, the primary purpose of which is to give us something *interactive* have to be over and done with quickly or else they become "cash cows". That, my friend, is ridiculous!
***** It *is* subjective opinion. "Plenty" is a value judgment call, and I personally find it plenty, yes. We don't need anything major to happen in the grand scheme of things until the story itself is almost at an end. Yes, I do like it because I hold it to the same standard as those other mediums I brought up in my last comment. If what I'm watching/playing is entertaining, nothing major (in terms of the overall plot) has to occur to hold my interest in every game/season. The entertainment and relatively small developments are enough.
I'm talking about the tattoo in his hand. It glowed and that if was due to long exposure wouldn't clay be experiencing a similar thing.
Not only that but Clay hugged Desmond telling him he was saving him and that's what he meant because he knew juno was going to kill him.
Oh yeah, I remember that, maybe that isn't all of it, there could be something more significant to it, but it kinda helped out a bit because Desmond relived Connor's life for way longer than he did with Ezio and Altair with no side effects.
As said in the article "Now it’s not just Desmond who can go back into his own lineage, says Ismail. The Animus technology’s progressed so others can do this, and that’s part of the story."
I absolutely think the same about being a "Templar" Ending...i really believe that everything we learned from past games about being an assassin and what it stands for was thrown to the garbage when he decided to pick Juno's path...i was so frustrated.
Everytime you return to Desmond to go on the missions to find that piece of eden thing to unlock new stages of that little temple, if you go talk to his father, there will be father son bonding moments.
I know desmond already had the tattoo but notice how in both cutscenes, desmond uses his right hand because clay is now part of his subconcious.
If you interact with other characters and they start saying Subject 16 desmond shouts "His name is Clay!" and leaves.
Also in assassin's creed 1 look at the wall covered in blood and listen to it's meanings.
Desmond isn't actually dead. In revelations subject 16 asks Desmond 'what if I went with you?'. Meaning, can I leave the animus via your body. Later on, 16 grabs Desmond and shouts at him saying 'im saving you, idiot!'. At the end of revelations, desmonds arm is glowing, at which point, Desmond says 'i know what I have to do now'. So at the end of ac3, when Desmond touches the pedestal, it's actually subject 16 who is finally killed. So why would Desmond be trained, just to be killed off later?
Play AC4 im sorry but he is dead,
Actually, I think that his arm glows because because he was copied as a backup in the Animus. Subject 16 forcibly hugged Desmond to make a copy of him to store in the Animus, in case Desmond dies, his memories will still be stored in the Animus.
Subject 16 actually emphazised this: "What is a man but a sum of his memories?"
Desmond: Don't do this!
Clay (S-16): I'm saving you, you idiot!
Watch the ending of AC:R.
A little piece of the ending he didn't point out, and i can't remember exactly what happens, was when as Conner you have to run around to the way points after the credits (though Desmond is dead). If you synchronize with all of them you hear an unknown voice (most likely of a Templar) talking about how amazing it is that they were able to access the memory. earlier in the game, Desmond's father points out that the Templars may be working on ways to read the memories of others without the host.
The evidence is all around in the games but right now we are focusing on the "deletion" part.
Was it really nessecary for Clay to hug desmond? If he needed for desmond to leave he just had to lead him out or just tell him to leave.
Also if you notice his hands during the cutscene. They turn a blueish white color and the so does desmond's when he comes out of it.
Also earlier in the game Clay did mention about possiblty leaving the Animus in another body. This is what he was doing.
Clay might have had the same thing, but the mark on Desmond disappeared, remember? The tattoo has always been there, but Desmond's hand lit up for only a few seconds, we wouldn't know if Clay had the light on his arm because it disappears fast, but if I am right, then he would have had it long ago. And no, I'm pretty sure what he meant by that was he was saving him from the DELETION, in case you haven't noticed, the animus island was collapsing.
I feel the EXACT same way also. I'm one of the few that liked Desmond and the modern times story. Hopefully Minerva (or whoever else) is able to somehow revive Desmond so he (and company) can fight off Juno's rise. THEN you can end Desmond's story. Not the anti-climatic way in AC3. Wayyy to anti-climatic to end his story, if he really is dead. We'll see in AC4.
Very VERY valid points man. Couldn't agree more with nearly everything you said.
Are you sure about that, In ac2 do you recall this?
Desmond: Subject 16?
Clay: Yes, Subject 17.
Desmond: You're dead. I saw your blood.
Clay: No time. It is far later than you know. Too late to save them.
Desmond: Who?
Clay: She is not who you think she is. Everything you hope to become, everything you hold dear. It's already gone.
Desmond: Explain. Please.
Clay wrote on the wall he had seen the past, present and future and new what was to happen
It's 2020 and Juno still hasn't made any big moves yet. As far as I know, the most she's done is find a way to directly communicate with a Templar agent. That's it.
But inFamous 2 had tons of weight to the ending and had you interact with characters you have come to love and with a main character you have come to really connect with. Yes they both die to save the world, but with Cole they didn't treat him as a secondary character and just kill off.
Not nessarcarily, AC3 was just pretty much about trying to save the world in a hurry using conner to find the apple. I don't know if you remeber but in Ac1, in the wall there is writing that says
" I have seen the past,present, and future." meaning he knew what was to happen.
Actually, Desmond's dad does mention that the Templar were close to uncovering a way to access DNA Memory without the actual person, but through DNA samples.
So a technologically advanced civilization was wiped out, and they appear at beacons warning that the cycle will repeat itself, and then the ending sucked. What's worse is you never know what happens to Garrus...no wait!?
I have played all the AC games, but 'Nothing is true, everything is permitted' is clearly the mantra of Jimmy Saville and Jefferey Dahmer.
i c wut u did thair! ;p
I think (when Ezio experienced this memory first) he was merely speaking about what he has seen in the apple. Jupiter realized Desmond would be reliving this memory so he spoke to Desmond directly. Just an idea I have.
Ubisoft said tat they are done with Desmond's storyline. Abstergo has figured out a way to enter someone's life without being necessary a bloodline connection. You are an Abstergo employee and you play in first person (I think), and enter the lives of assassin's, meaning Edward, the father or grandfather of Haytham Kenway (cant remember what he is).
I didn't mind the ending. To me the storylines of the assassins have always been more important. I never cared about Desmond or his missions. Conner's story was great, and I felt a strong connection to the characters and the plot. That being said, when Desmond chose to die and release Juno I immediately became more interested in his story... ironic that it was at an end. I am excited to see what AC4 brings because I think changing it up will do a lot for the series.
This isn’t just the end of Desmond’s story, it’s the end of a 5-year long story. The 2012/end of the world story-arc that they made a big deal out of since the end of the first AC game. And it ends very poorly, without any emotion or paying off the build up from the last 4 games. It was just another stepping stone for a villain that I really didn’t care for.
And what’s worse is that that said villain doesn’t do anything aside from get a few followers and is then pushed aside to the comics, to be killed off by characters we don’t know about. So it was all for nothing. Good job, Ubisosft!
Instead they kill the series and throw it all away. Now it's stupid. Assassins Creed was my favorite most devout franchise and they killed it.
I never thought of that as a possibility... It seems that they are continuing with the Kenway family (Edward), so it will definitely be in Desmond's bloodline, but it has been confirmed that Desmond's story is over, so maybe William (Father) will go into the Animus? Hell, maybe they're ditching the whole past-present story and ONLY using the past (Unlikely, but possible). Either way, I hope the designers really do clear this up, because the ends have always been in this TO BE CONTINUED fashion.
Please do reviews on the other AC games. I love to hear your opinion on them.
Firstly, nobody knows if Desmond was 'killed' for real. He just went and fall unconscious.
Maybe a coma, maybe even disembodied because I remember the ending was about turning on the machine, that uses some kind of pillars to save mankind, but also at the same time releases Juno into the world.
But then you think... Juno and Minerva are INSIDE the system, so does this mean the same can happen to Desmond too?
Desmond isn't dead that's why his dad Shaun and Rebecca were so OK with leaving he used the apple to make a copie o himself like ezio did in assassins creed 2 he is off somewhere secret mastering the apple like altiar did to use against juno and the templars
we did not see dezmond die. we saw him fall over just as he did in brotherhood there is still a chance for him to come back, perhaps trapped in the temple as juno was
You are totally right in this video. I love your stance ont he ending and how Desmond became the main character
too be honest i don't think that Desmond is dead and gone. There is a piece of eden called the Ankh which is capable of healing the sick, and temporarily resurrecting the dead. It also acted as a recording device, storing the mannerisms of a living person and being able to return those mannerisms to a corpse. The assassin that found this POE was an ancestor of Desmond's named Aquilus which derives from Aquila, the which is also the name of the ship In AC3