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@@joesteel7409it's so different from books . He never intended to hurt his brother aegon . And this trap was planned by both of them. Aegon is idiot in the show but he's not idiot in books.
Aemond flexing in front of the council, speaking a different language pretty much telling him that you aren’t built for this after saying that he and Cole were in connection communication
i feel bad for all Alicent’s children. All three grown kids are so scattered and deprived of love from their family. So sad. I don’t hate non of them Jace, Luke and Rhaenyra have more love to each other, felt that from every ep p.s. maybe in books their relationships are different, don’t know
shes not even inmune, she only was inmune during the blood sacrifice/ritual , when she was in the mereem fighting pits in her inner thought we read that if drogon breaths fire on ehr she will die for sure , so again danys is not fireproof , she was only fireproff during the blood ritual
@@dayarih1217it was the blood magic she used when her children were born ! She’s only done it the once in the books. It can be argued that they have higher tolerance but no they are not immune to fire
Viserys was too I believe, there was a scene in season 1 where he was just holding his hand in candle flames and not burning. I think its just a rare trait among Targaryens
Dany is not immune to fire either. The birthing of the dragon in the pyre was as GRRM put it "a miracle steeped in blood magic". She gets burned later on in the books.
@@MarkHogan994 So fucking awful. Like even if she hates him, on a purely Machiavellian level, if she showed any ounce of love towards him that'd help her ability to control him so much... Like, he implicitly asks for her advice this episode, then flat out asks, and she insults him and tells him to fuck off.
@@MarkHogan994I'd say more than awful. There are multiple times where Aegon is looking for any positive reinforcement he can get and consistently Alicent either ignores him or reprimands him. Like I know the audience is supposed to go "Yass Alicent" but when you contextualize it with Alicent being a negligent mother who abducted him to put him on the throne against his will, it sorta loses that to me. I mean, after his CHILD died she comes across him weeping alone in his room and what does she do? She quietly walks away to go bone Crispy Cole again. Like come on man, if Alicent were half the parent that Rhaenyra was then maybe Aegon would actually be inclined to listen to her. Maybe he wouldn't even be the way he is, though that's far more speculative.
not gonna lie i teared up, meleys surely knew that was a suicide mission. and she went all out for her rider. Rhaenys died fighting for what she believed, for Rhaenyra, for her young self.
It was not a suicide mission, even at the point when Rhaenys recommitted to the attack on Vhagar. Meleys and Rhaenys got the better of Vhagar and Aemond in the first 1v1 pass. While Meleys can’t one-shot kill Vhagar (or even Sunfyre), she and Rhaenys had a reasonably good chance to win multiple attacks on Vhagar and Aemond before Vhagar could succeed in making a one-shot kill. Rhaenys and Meleys did not commit suicide. They pressed their advantage like warriors, but fell to an unseen ambush.
It didn't have to be. In this version, in the way that they depicted it, Rhaenys had an out. Enemy dragon, the king's dragon, going down to friendly fire, that's a huge W. Shoulda cut your loses. But yeah, as soon as Rhaenys made Meleys turn around, she knew it was gonna be her end.
In the books, Aegon and Sunfyre have the strongest bond, so it is really cool to see how happy Sunfyre looks when meeting Aegon and how genuine Aegon is smiling.
@@hopeforhobixo5142out of the Targaryen riders at least he almost certainly does, that's provable, anyway. But Sunfyre does a crazy amount of work for Aegon.
@@will2brown50 I can name 5 other targs that have a stronger bond than him. Key among them being Dany and Drogon and Rhaenyra and Syrax. Not to mention Queen Rhaena and Dreamfyre. There are so many more
@@marwanali4878Syrax who killed Rhaenyra’s son had better bond than Aegon and Sunfyre? What is your source? Cause in f&b we get pages discussing Aegon/Sunfyre while the other dragon riders get max 1-2 sentences about their bond with their dragon.
@@alexei3803she also was fireproof in an specific scenario. Generally, they are fire-resistant, but not fireproof and definitely not dragonfire proof. Hell, Valyria was destroyed by fire, and dragons and dragon lords alike all died.
"Princess Rhaenys made no attempt to escape. With a proud shout and the sting of her whip, she directed Melis towards the enemy. The faithful wife, mother and grandmother, the queen who never was, and she died in blood and fire at the age of fifty-five." 😞😞💔💔💔
Mind you that, *Vhagar's* former rider was Baelon Targaryen and *Meleys* former rider was Alyssa Targaryen, husband wife and parents of Viserys and Daemon Targaryen These dragons are killing each other are so sad.
They also served as dragons to Rhaenys and Laena, mother and daughter . An entire lifetime spent playing together, only for Vhagar to kill her former rider's mom 💔
This just further proves that the dragons dont care for one another when they are bonded to a rider. People saying Syrax was mourning Arrax were wrong. Syrax was empathising with Rheanyra's grief.
While Cole cares about his king, he also doesn't obey him that well. Two episodes ago Cole sent out an assassin without royal approval and this episode he planned an entire battle without telling Aegon and instead reporting it to Aemond
@@bakthihapuarachchi3447 I think that's precisely why he's sad. The mistrust of everyone, led Aegon to do a "Nah imma do my own thing". Criston Cole "plotted" in his back for his indirect well-being and it went exactly like it shouldn't.
Targaryens are not fireproof btw!! Dany only had that ability because of blood magic. But that was only in the show. In the books Dany is not fireproof at all, it was a one time thing
@@annbethshe was responding to your first sentence. Asking why anyone would think that they were fireproof when Leana was already burned to death. Like, you should already be well aware that Targaryens aren’t fireproof by now.
Daemon has been right in each advice he gave since this war begun. He wanted to double team Vhagar. No wonder he's mad, his family keeps dying after ignoring what he says.
Seriously. Called Otto out and Viserys never listened--now look where we are. But when it suits people and they need something done they'll call on him. He's no angel but damn it sucks how he'll get brushed off.
Honestly Vhagar still has decent odds of winning a 2v1. Meleys attack on Vhagar looked like it did barely anything meanwhile one bite from Vhagar and Meleys was dead.
@@yin3229 I dont know if you read the books so I won't spoil anything, but just know that Caraxes, with Meleys on his sidee would for sure take down Vhagar
Fun fact: FYI, Ser Willem Blackwood who Daemon met with, is the same teenager who killed that Bracken knight when Rhaenyra was on her prospective marriage tour before she was forced to marry Laenor. He was aged up because there are about twenty years between that part of season 1 and now.
@@Chair991 Rhaenys massacred thousands of innocents, and plenty of people cheer for her. Daemon bashed his wife's face in with a rock, and plenty of people cheer for him. Get over yourself.
Aegon's a douchebag but you gotta remember he didn't want to be King and sees he is now a puppet. He told Aemond he would make a bad king and to let him run away, but Aemond forced him to go to the coronation. He told Alicent he didn't believe Viserys changed his mind about Rhaenyra and asked Alicent if she loved him because he thought she was just using him, and not only did Otto confirm his belief Viserys didn't name him heir, now Aemond and Alicent are both telling him to stfu and keeping him in the dark. All of his fears and doubts are coming true, of course he'd try and prove himself.
Yeah. There are only a few times I've seen Aegon truly happy. One was when he was crowned king and the people cheered him, the second when he was seeing his son in the Small Council(who he included to be different from Viserys, who had chosen his heir and never kept Aegon around)and the last was when he saw Sunfyre. Alicent couldn't even tell him she loved him when he asked and he said that Viserys never changed his succession because he didn't like him. He most likely believed his father never truly loved him, because Rhaenyra had all his love.
Aegons thoughts when he saw Aemond: Oh Yes, My Brother is here!🙋 Aemonds thoughts when he saw Aegon: I don't know who this man is. I mean, he could be walking down the street, I wouldn't know a thing. Sorry to this man. 🤷
I kinda see what Rhaenys may have been trying to do. She just took out Aegon, so all they have left is Aemond. Take out Aemond and that stops the greens in their tracks. All they would have is Halaena and her daughter but they couldn't go up against the Blacks with just Dreamfyre. So Rhaenys took the slim chance to take out or injure Vhagar, possibly reminded how she didn't do it at the dragon pit before. What makesnit sadder is that both dragons were ridden by her relatives. Vhagar was ridden by her daughter and Daemon/Viserys's father, while Meleys was ridden by their mother before Rhaenys. Should have gone with Daemon's plan of 2 against 1.
Aegon 2 had little or no experience. In a 2 on 2 fight someone can take out sunfyre first. Then Maelys and Caraxes could take out vhagar. Defeating Vhagar would be difficult but a 2 on 1 advantage would have guaranteed the win.
Rhaenys has Targaryen as well as Baratheon lineage. If you look at both of those houses motto: "Fire and Blood" and " Ours is the Fury" it tells you all you need to know about how she wouldn't retreat, its not in her nature/blood to do so. A true dragon rider; through and through! To Rhaenys and Meleys, two real ones!!
The reason Vhagar is able to surprise attack so well, is because She has been fighting for 170+ years. Shes fought next to The OG Aegon the Conquer. Vhager fought and survived basically theCivil War, World War 1 & 2, the Korean War, with the Campaign in Dorne being Vietnam lol. She got tricks for generation lol.
Yeah, people misjudge her thinking she’s just a lumbering big old beast. But she rode with the best of the best and has more combat experience and tactical training than all the other dragons combined. And Shipwrecker Bay proved she doesn’t need her rider’s input to get a job done. She’s something else.
They really should have stuck to the books. Aegon flew Sunfyre for his coronation and the entire city cheered because it was so beautiful. Instead of that we got that dumb scene.
All present Targaryen dragons Rhaenyra - Syrax Daemon - Caraxes Rhaenys - Meleys Jacaerys - Vermax Lucerys - Arrax Baela - Moondancer Joffrey - Tyraxes Aegon - Stormcloud Unclaimed: Seasmoke Vermithor Silverwing Grey Ghost Cannibal (Sheepstealer - depends on if this dragon has been cut) Aegon II - Sunfyre Aemond - Vhagar Helaena - Dreamfyre Daeron - Tessarion Idk if they will be cut but… Jaehaerys and Jaehaera had little Shrykos and Morghul
He didn't usurp his nephew. The throne was there for the taking. If he didn't return to Westeros with Visenya, Aegon 1.5 and Rhaena would have been murdered by poor fellows in Crakehall and the Warriors Sons would have stormed Dragonstone and killed Jaehaerys, Alyssane and Viserys'.... Aegon 1.5 was an idiot, his uncle saved his life and his family's lifes work and the first thing he does is steal a dragon and oppose Maegor and villainize him to further divide the realm. Maegor was based and the Gods have him their favour, he won a trial of seven 🤷♂️
"He can't die, it would be the end of the series!" Bruh, does Chris hear himself? There's a royal line of lineage. Aegon has two brothers. Nothing would be over if he were to die. Not even close!
I can't digest it, they keep showing Vhagar so stealthy. At Stormend the stealth attack is justifiable, but here? Iirc, this encounter was different in the book.
Can't fly, can't walk, heavily burnt, clawed torso, fell from the sky, stuck in the forest far from home..... it'll take a miracle for sunfyre to still be alive after this episode
Criston is one of the few knights of his generation with actual battle experience, mostly because he's Dornish. That's why he's an effective battlefield commander. But he's an awful choice as Hand.
Criston calling her a w*ore for the 150th time was like.. dude. Have you tried saying that to a mirror? Not very boss still being bitter about the teen that dissed you.
Now Daemon’s plan of tag teaming with Rhaenys against Aemond doesn’t sound so bad. I know Rhaenyra wanted to avoid war, but Daemon was right about how to deal with the greens, hesitation is going to cost her more in the end.
Still think Aegon is more in the right than he knows. Daemon has Harrenhal, sure, but he doesn't have any real support yet. One dragon could probably take him out before he could reach Caraxes, if they were quick enough.
Alyn is maybe among my favorite characters to be introduced to in Season 2. I do appreciate the fact that Rhaenys knew about him and didnt hate him,as opposed to how Catelyn treated Jon snow.
Aegon is seeming like a less insane version of homelander. His childhood exactly mirrors Homelander and how he craves love, by design. Alicent really made him King with no concern for him at all, and always wanted to rule through him, instead of actually helping
@@JimmySteller I have a theory that Otto craves power so much that he poisoned Jahearys children and even Viserys. Making it look like natural causes. He carefully planted Alicent having already figured out Viserys's interests and weaknesses. As you said he also ruined Alicent's life by twisting her mental state to evil levels.
@@lewis0705 oh jeez I'm a total idiot. How could I have overlooked her mom, ya know the one we're all talking about in this episode. Yes, you're right and I need a nap or a cognitive test.
Targaryen don't burn is a myth. They do burn, all of them. Daenerys had the spell of that witch guarding her. And Aegon & Sunfyre both are still very much alive. They have shit to fuck 😂😂😂
What about when she walked out of flames after she burned the khals? Or when daemon rode through vaghars fire? I'm not saying they're completely immune but some of them clearly have some resistance
@@ItsAme7143 Daemon didn't stay still in the fire. Haven't you seen horse riders pass straight through fire ?? And just as I said l, she was protected by dark magic.
@@ItsAme7143 The whole Daenerys walking out of the flames after she burns the Khals was show-only. GRRM has explicitly stated that it was just a onetime occurrence for Daenerys, steeped in blood magic.
"Princess Rhaenys made no attempt to flee. With a glad cry and a crack of her whip, she turned Meleys to her enemies." 💔 - Fire & Blood (Im fuckin cryin bros) RIP to the Red Queen, and The Queen Who SHOULDVE Been.
This fanbase doesn't know how to leave comments that aren't spoilers. We learned this Season 1 GoT. They have absolutely no self control. A literal embarrassment to fandoms.
@@withxoutxlifeI've read the main series three times but haven't gotten to Fire and Blood. Three days ago I got an Eve Best and Steve Touissant interview recommended. Literally every single comment was along the lines of "it's really nice that they did this before her death in the next episode", "RIP Rhaenys" etc. Fucking abysmal
I think is kinda hard since the book came out years ago most people assume many people know what happened since is like history and also Joffrey in GOT also Spoiled it in some way. But I understand your frustration, as a book reader I always try to avoid that and only explain things within the current episode.
The reason Rhaenys didn’t leave is cuz she also kinda want to prove herself, in the book it said there is a fair chance Rhaenys can beat Vaghar. And for the TV canon I think Rhaenys also feel a bit bad that she didn’t end the war back then where she had the chance to burn them all.
Before this in the books, the only time Sunfire is brought up with Aegon is when he rides him/her around the city after being crowned.. And he does this in this episode, so it made sense why they didn't want to double that scene. But I'd agree, would of been nice to see them together just even once more.
@@rionedmonds7538 Oh you can see Sunfyre in scenes, just that there's no real interaction with that Dragon. I assume its due to we're seeing that dragon close up now, so they had the time to give him extra detail/make it look pretty.
Hail The Queen That Never Was. Rhaenyse Valeryon. Wife to Corlys Valeryon, Daughter of Aemon Targaryen and granddaughter of King Jaehaerys Targaryen (The Old King) If she had sat the Iron Throne all that has happened and will happen would never come to pass. R.I.P to Meleys.
Aemond's plan was just to ambush whoever came in from Rhaenyra's side to help Rook's Rest. He didn't plan on Aegon showing up with Sunfyre, but when he saw them clashing he took the opportunity to take them both out. Also Aemond was sheathing his sword because he saw the dagger on the ground. If Cole wasn't there, Aemond would've ended Aegon's life right then.
Aemond is a bitch picking cheap fights since the start first the eye then the brothel scene........he is salty at everyone and straight-up cruel. His dragon that he stole killed 3 dragons maybe that's why no dragon bonded with him in the first place they knew he was a problem.
@@AzulApe ah yes, a woman who has done nothing extreme gets the misogynistic title of "meagor the teats" but not her half brother, Aemond. Who goes on murder spree with anyone with the name "strong". I swear greenies just want an excuse to be misogynistic
Willem Blackwood who Daemons talking to is the same person as the kid he killed that other guy insulting him while he was asking for Rhaenyra’s hand in season 1
For all Aegon's faults, he may have been drunk on wine and desperation to prove himself, but unlike Aemond, who wields the biggest Dragon in the world yet prefers hit-and-run tactics (like some Sharks that do it to Seals to avoid injury), Aegon fearlessly attacked a Dragon twice Sunfyre's size. Only wish to keep to the books where the Greens' Dragon ambush IS Aegon's idea.
I swear half of you either have read a different version of Fire & Blood or just confidently spouting off whatever comes to mind. The dragon trap was Cole's idea in both mediums. Aegon is pretty useless as a strategist at this point of the war.
Targaryens. Are. Not. Fireproof. That was literally just a Dany thing. The closest the others have gotten is showing some resistance to heat. But they are not fireproof.
Losing Rhaenys is devastating both in the story and the show as a whole. Eve Best was one of the greatest parts of this show and I'm truly gonna miss her.
This is not exactly the first time a dragon is fighting a dragon in Westeros before… Maegor I, the Cruel, third King and son of Aegon the conqueror, fought with his dragon Balerion against Aegon (another Aegon) and his dragon Quicksilver…. They fought above „Godseye“ a little island in a big lake near Harrenhal. Well… Maegor won on Balerions back against the much quicker dragon. But after these yeah. This battle in this episode was the first real fight of dragons against each other since than and old Valyria.
If there was another Aegon already why do they keep calling this Aegon the second ? Wouldn’t this (alicent’s son) Aegon be the third if Maegor the cruel killed Aegon the second?
The Andals brought the religion of the faith of the seven to westeros. The first men were there first and they believed in the old gods. They fought for thousands of years before the Andals took over most of the seven kingdoms except the north. Thats why the olds gods and most of the weirwood trees are still prominent in the north. The Targaryens dont really believe in the faith or the old gods either. They only act like they believe in the faith of the seven because when the Aegon the conquerer took over, the Andals were in power in most of the seven kingdoms and mostly everyone now believes in the faith except the north. Edit: Yes the Andals came from Essos. They were chased out by Old Valyria.
@@Att964 ohh okay, I didn't think that all Targaryens were immune to fire I just didn't know if it was a rare thing or a daenarys thing that those dumbasses d&d added
@@ItsAme7143it was a D&D thing. Daenerys was supposed to survive the fire the one time, but they had no clue how to resolve the Vaes Dothrak plotline so they made it happen again and ended up giving us some very stupid implications
To be honest I don't really wanna hate him (yet), he's like a more sympathetic homelander with his fucked up childhood. If he wasn't a rapist I'd probably like him.
the theory that Larys Strong can see trough the eyes of the rats seems actually possible with him probably knowing the witch of harrenhal (its his half sister)
Suraj, All animals fight. Dragons would be no different. In conditions where Tagaryens or Valerians aren't controlling them, I imagine, they battle for territory, mates, etc.
Rana:(seeing Vhagar)"NONONONONO!" Me:(Green fan)".....Yes!" "If he's a true Targaryen, he'll walk it off!" I'm sick of that myth. Targaryen's aren't immune to fire. Book Dany only survived the one time thanks to the mystical causes that allowed her dragons to hatch. Later in book 5, she gets torched by Drogon and her clothes catch fire and her hair burns away, though she luckily survives, at least. Oh, don't worry. The best claimant, Aegon, still lives.
Daemon had the correct strategy from the beginning. He had ordered Rhaenys to ride with him so both could attack Vhagar simultaneously because she was so big & killing Aemon at the same time. Rhaenys answer was no, he couldn't order her because he wasn't king. Big mistake.
Exactly, first she missed the opportunity to end it all by frying the damn bunch of them Hightowers and their allies at the dragon pit; and then she just let her grudges towards Daemon cloud her judgement _she even successfully drove a wedge between him and Rhaenyra!!! Her death is heroic but she made really dumb decisions..
I literally BALLED MY EYES OUT so bad!! Rhaenys was my favourite character, such an amazing strong woman, she will be deeply missed. She would've been such a powrful hand to Rhaenyra! And poor innocent baby Sunfyre just thought he was going for a flight with his beloved rider, poor baby didn't deserve any of this, I really hope he survives
I feel the exact same way. She was my favorite character so much so that I’m ALMOST not interested in the rest of this story. She was such a fucking badass in every scene. Meleys was also my favorite dragon.
I love the little moments between the Targaryens and their dragons this episode. When Aegon was about to depart with Sunfyre, he looked so happy holding his dragon's head in his hands, almost like he was holding a beloved pet. Sunfyre also seemed to be pretty close with Aegon probably because he hasn't bonded with any other Targaryens. Same with Rhaenys and her dragon Meleys. As they're departing, she calls her dragon "old girl" which I thought was touching. Then during the final moments of the battle when Meleys is getting her neck bitten by Vhagar and you can see the life draining from her, she looks back at Rhaenys with a look that seems like it's conveying something along the lines of "I'm sorry, I did my best..." That part got me honestly. We lost TWO queens in this episode honestly: the Red Queen (Meleys) and the Queen who never was (Rhaenys).
Incredible reactions you guys! It was so good to see everyone here for this one. I can't wait to you guys get to the actual Dance Of Dragons which will probably be season 3
Did anyone not notice that amazing shot when Sunfyre was laying injured and SUN rays were coming through and there was FIRE all around. I think that was a superb shot.
RIP Rhaenys....Daemon kept accusing her of not "finishing the job" when she had the chance last season. Now, she decided to stay and fight till the end. Respect Queen ❤
They keep referencing the Song of Ice and Fire not for the last seasons of GoT, but for the books that are still unfinished, and Aegon's dream is important new lore in this universe.
I kinda wish they stuck to the book on how this battle went. Meleys went out a true badass, taking on two on one and still whooping their asses instead of the one at a time that the show went with.
I think it would have been difficult to make that work visually. Sometimes what works in a book just doesn’t translate. This way we got Meleys taking on 2 dragons and making her mark on this war.
Regarding the egg, Ryan Condal has clarifies it is not Dany egg as Geeta Patel who directed ep 3 said. [However, Condal now clarifies to Entertainment Weekly that those eggs are not definitively Dany's. “I think the fun of the history as it was written is that there’s room for interpretation,” he says. “I like to think of it as one possible future.”]
Rhaenys wanted to make sure she does everything she can this time, she was the first one to get blamed for not ending the greens when she had the chance. This was her second and a more "proper" chance, since it's already a war.
The only known time before the Dance that dragons fought eachother was when Maegor on Balerion ambushed Aegon the Uncrowned on Silverwing, a much smaller dragon. It was a massacre, and Maegor earned his moniker "the Cruel" for killing his own nephew.
I loved the scenes with the dragons but I also hated the scenes with the dragons. Rhaenys and Meleys made me cry but I loved seeing Aegon and Sunfyre bond for a brief second. I felt so bad for the dragons. Vhagar is a old and nasty girl. It was also great to see Jace actually be a real character, he wants revenge for his brother and I don't blame him. I almost feel bad for Aegon but Alicent is 100% right, he should listen to Otto and her because they have the experience and Otto is very smart.
Rhaenys was low key my favourite character played by Eve Best. Kind of amazing how well they've pulled this show off possibly short term memory but I'm enjoying it as much as peak game of thrones albeit it more of a channelled/focused script. You don't get that game of thrones open map feel but it's really opening up now.
According to the family tree I found online, Maelys (Rhaenys’ dragon) is Vhagar’s granddaughter (we will not be calling it grand-dragon google if you don’t know) so Maelys be fighting be grandma 😭😭😭
I liked how the soldiers in this actually wear the colors of the houses they are raised from. This is not like GoT where each of the great houses's uniforms are the only ones.
Game of Thrones is so back.
What were your thoughts on Aemond's attack when Rhaenys and Aegon were fighting? Collateral damage or seizing the opportunity?
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It felt like he didn’t really care either way.
Payback for the brothel humiliation 😂
Seizing opportunity, kinslayer through and through.
@@joesteel7409it's so different from books . He never intended to hurt his brother aegon . And this trap was planned by both of them. Aegon is idiot in the show but he's not idiot in books.
Aemond flexing in front of the council, speaking a different language pretty much telling him that you aren’t built for this after saying that he and Cole were in connection communication
Sunfyre loves Aegon more than his entire family😢💚
Brooo. You can feel it. That shit was genuine
And also the other way around, Aegon was happy when he saw Sunfyre
not that hard, nobody likes him
i feel bad for all Alicent’s children. All three grown kids are so scattered and deprived of love from their family. So sad. I don’t hate non of them
Jace, Luke and Rhaenyra have more love to each other, felt that from every ep
p.s. maybe in books their relationships are different, don’t know
@@anonymous-bb2dw Womp womp
This is a friendly reminder that Targaryens aren't immune to fire, that was a Danny exclusive.
shes not even inmune, she only was inmune during the blood sacrifice/ritual , when she was in the mereem fighting pits in her inner thought we read that if drogon breaths fire on ehr she will die for sure , so again danys is not fireproof , she was only fireproff during the blood ritual
@@dayarih1217it was the blood magic she used when her children were born ! She’s only done it the once in the books. It can be argued that they have higher tolerance but no they are not immune to fire
Viserys was too I believe, there was a scene in season 1 where he was just holding his hand in candle flames and not burning. I think its just a rare trait among Targaryens
It's also a show exclusive.
Dany is not immune to fire either. The birthing of the dragon in the pyre was as GRRM put it "a miracle steeped in blood magic". She gets burned later on in the books.
Sunfyre might legit be the only one who genuinely loves Aegon.
thats so sad, with time you will see that its true XD
Yup. I think the only affection any living thing has shown Aegon was the boop from Sunfyre before battle
Alicent does love him despite being disappointed in him, she's just awful at showing it.
@@MarkHogan994 So fucking awful. Like even if she hates him, on a purely Machiavellian level, if she showed any ounce of love towards him that'd help her ability to control him so much... Like, he implicitly asks for her advice this episode, then flat out asks, and she insults him and tells him to fuck off.
@@MarkHogan994I'd say more than awful. There are multiple times where Aegon is looking for any positive reinforcement he can get and consistently Alicent either ignores him or reprimands him.
Like I know the audience is supposed to go "Yass Alicent" but when you contextualize it with Alicent being a negligent mother who abducted him to put him on the throne against his will, it sorta loses that to me. I mean, after his CHILD died she comes across him weeping alone in his room and what does she do? She quietly walks away to go bone Crispy Cole again. Like come on man, if Alicent were half the parent that Rhaenyra was then maybe Aegon would actually be inclined to listen to her. Maybe he wouldn't even be the way he is, though that's far more speculative.
not gonna lie i teared up, meleys surely knew that was a suicide mission. and she went all out for her rider. Rhaenys died fighting for what she believed, for Rhaenyra, for her young self.
😭
It was not a suicide mission, even at the point when Rhaenys recommitted to the attack on Vhagar. Meleys and Rhaenys got the better of Vhagar and Aemond in the first 1v1 pass. While Meleys can’t one-shot kill Vhagar (or even Sunfyre), she and Rhaenys had a reasonably good chance to win multiple attacks on Vhagar and Aemond before Vhagar could succeed in making a one-shot kill. Rhaenys and Meleys did not commit suicide. They pressed their advantage like warriors, but fell to an unseen ambush.
She died fighting for the woman who she believes killed her son. Great story writing.
For her grandchildren
It didn't have to be. In this version, in the way that they depicted it, Rhaenys had an out. Enemy dragon, the king's dragon, going down to friendly fire, that's a huge W. Shoulda cut your loses. But yeah, as soon as Rhaenys made Meleys turn around, she knew it was gonna be her end.
In the books, Aegon and Sunfyre have the strongest bond, so it is really cool to see how happy Sunfyre looks when meeting Aegon and how genuine Aegon is smiling.
I doubt he has the "strongest bond" out of every dragon rider.
@@hopeforhobixo5142out of the Targaryen riders at least he almost certainly does, that's provable, anyway.
But Sunfyre does a crazy amount of work for Aegon.
@@hopeforhobixo5142 well, say that to George, then
@@will2brown50 I can name 5 other targs that have a stronger bond than him. Key among them being Dany and Drogon and Rhaenyra and Syrax. Not to mention Queen Rhaena and Dreamfyre. There are so many more
@@marwanali4878Syrax who killed Rhaenyra’s son had better bond than Aegon and Sunfyre? What is your source? Cause in f&b we get pages discussing Aegon/Sunfyre while the other dragon riders get max 1-2 sentences about their bond with their dragon.
R.I.P. to Rhaenys Targaryen, "the Queen Who Never Was"
The Queen who should be😭💔
"And never will be...."
I hate that rhaenyra isn’t remembered the same way
💔💔
Heck No, her smugness and Karen attitude was too much to bear. @@krizsurya1
Westeros: Currently in the middle of a vicious civil war.
Daemon: Silent Hill 2
For real, he's going to encounter Pyramid head soon.
another copypaste commnet
I am seeing similar comment on every reaction video@@agnesavindisova4027
Targaryens are absolutely not fireproof. The Tragedy at summerhall proves this,
They don't know anything about that
Yeah, Dany is a special case.
@@alexei3803she also was fireproof in an specific scenario. Generally, they are fire-resistant, but not fireproof and definitely not dragonfire proof.
Hell, Valyria was destroyed by fire, and dragons and dragon lords alike all died.
They absolutely don’t know anything about that
Well will prove this. It technically hasn’t happened yet
"Princess Rhaenys made no attempt to escape. With a proud shout and the sting of her whip, she directed Melis towards the enemy. The faithful wife, mother and grandmother, the queen who never was, and she died in blood and fire at the age of fifty-five." 😞😞💔💔💔
The scene where the entire battlefield just stopped fighting and stared in awe when Vhagar appeared was super awesome
Thats called the dread feeling buddy
Mind you that, *Vhagar's* former rider was Baelon Targaryen and *Meleys* former rider was Alyssa Targaryen, husband wife and parents of Viserys and Daemon Targaryen
These dragons are killing each other are so sad.
They also served as dragons to Rhaenys and Laena, mother and daughter . An entire lifetime spent playing together, only for Vhagar to kill her former rider's mom 💔
And Vhagar was also her daughter’s dragon 😭
@@aileenpi73 i know 😭
They have always killed each other. Wait until you see the Cannibal. There are key dragons that haven't even been mentioned yet.
This just further proves that the dragons dont care for one another when they are bonded to a rider. People saying Syrax was mourning Arrax were wrong. Syrax was empathising with Rheanyra's grief.
I do appreciate how Criston Cole seemed to be the only one concerned about the welfare of his King. Everyone else mostly just ignored him.
Only Cole and Sunfyre care about him 😢
The most non A hole thing Cole has done in weeks!
While Cole cares about his king, he also doesn't obey him that well. Two episodes ago Cole sent out an assassin without royal approval and this episode he planned an entire battle without telling Aegon and instead reporting it to Aemond
That’s his job respectfully, the common folk are the only ones who care about the common folk
@@bakthihapuarachchi3447 I think that's precisely why he's sad. The mistrust of everyone, led Aegon to do a "Nah imma do my own thing". Criston Cole "plotted" in his back for his indirect well-being and it went exactly like it shouldn't.
Targaryens are not fireproof btw!! Dany only had that ability because of blood magic. But that was only in the show. In the books Dany is not fireproof at all, it was a one time thing
How could you think that? Leana dracarys herself last season lol.
@@annbethshe was responding to your first sentence. Asking why anyone would think that they were fireproof when Leana was already burned to death. Like, you should already be well aware that Targaryens aren’t fireproof by now.
Yes
Danny was fireproof before the magic, she immersed herself into boiling hot water before she married and touched the eggs in the fire
@@ffspolly4407in the show yes, because the show made the change. She is not FIRE proof at all in the books.
Daemon has been right in each advice he gave since this war begun. He wanted to double team Vhagar.
No wonder he's mad, his family keeps dying after ignoring what he says.
he’s been right since before the war began too LOL if viserys trusted him even a little bit this would’ve never happened in the first place but well…!
Seriously. Called Otto out and Viserys never listened--now look where we are. But when it suits people and they need something done they'll call on him. He's no angel but damn it sucks how he'll get brushed off.
Honestly Vhagar still has decent odds of winning a 2v1. Meleys attack on Vhagar looked like it did barely anything meanwhile one bite from Vhagar and Meleys was dead.
@@yin3229 I dont know if you read the books so I won't spoil anything, but just know that Caraxes, with Meleys on his sidee would for sure take down Vhagar
@@mihailosretenovic8620maybe but vhagar still doing damage
Fun fact: FYI, Ser Willem Blackwood who Daemon met with, is the same teenager who killed that Bracken knight when Rhaenyra was on her prospective marriage tour before she was forced to marry Laenor. He was aged up because there are about twenty years between that part of season 1 and now.
You guys seem to be forgetting that Aegon did NOT want to have the throne, he was put there against his will.
Well, they are called "the normies"
They watch so many shows, and have so many things to remember. They probably forgot most of season 1.
@@BL3H- So passionate for something they remember only a quarter off.
He also had sex with a girl against her will, so idk why you feel bad for him
@@Chair991 Rhaenys massacred thousands of innocents, and plenty of people cheer for her. Daemon bashed his wife's face in with a rock, and plenty of people cheer for him. Get over yourself.
Aegon's a douchebag but you gotta remember he didn't want to be King and sees he is now a puppet. He told Aemond he would make a bad king and to let him run away, but Aemond forced him to go to the coronation. He told Alicent he didn't believe Viserys changed his mind about Rhaenyra and asked Alicent if she loved him because he thought she was just using him, and not only did Otto confirm his belief Viserys didn't name him heir, now Aemond and Alicent are both telling him to stfu and keeping him in the dark. All of his fears and doubts are coming true, of course he'd try and prove himself.
Yeah. There are only a few times I've seen Aegon truly happy. One was when he was crowned king and the people cheered him, the second when he was seeing his son in the Small Council(who he included to be different from Viserys, who had chosen his heir and never kept Aegon around)and the last was when he saw Sunfyre.
Alicent couldn't even tell him she loved him when he asked and he said that Viserys never changed his succession because he didn't like him. He most likely believed his father never truly loved him, because Rhaenyra had all his love.
Aegons thoughts when he saw Aemond: Oh Yes, My Brother is here!🙋
Aemonds thoughts when he saw Aegon: I don't know who this man is. I mean, he could be walking down the street, I wouldn't know a thing. Sorry to this man. 🤷
Aemonds actual thoughts: If this idiot dies I'm one step closer to that throne 🤔
truly an "I've never met this man in my whole life" moment 😂
I kinda see what Rhaenys may have been trying to do. She just took out Aegon, so all they have left is Aemond. Take out Aemond and that stops the greens in their tracks. All they would have is Halaena and her daughter but they couldn't go up against the Blacks with just Dreamfyre. So Rhaenys took the slim chance to take out or injure Vhagar, possibly reminded how she didn't do it at the dragon pit before. What makesnit sadder is that both dragons were ridden by her relatives. Vhagar was ridden by her daughter and Daemon/Viserys's father, while Meleys was ridden by their mother before Rhaenys. Should have gone with Daemon's plan of 2 against 1.
You forgot Daeron the Daring
I mean it would've been 2 against 2. Aegon II wouldn't seat that out
Aegon 2 had little or no experience. In a 2 on 2 fight someone can take out sunfyre first. Then Maelys and Caraxes could take out vhagar. Defeating Vhagar would be difficult but a 2 on 1 advantage would have guaranteed the win.
@@BhBc8f8Daemon’s plan was to ambush Vhagar alone much earlier in the war. Before Jacarys was killed
Aemond took out Aegon.
Rhaenys has Targaryen as well as Baratheon lineage. If you look at both of those houses motto: "Fire and Blood" and " Ours is the Fury" it tells you all you need to know about how she wouldn't retreat, its not in her nature/blood to do so. A true dragon rider; through and through!
To Rhaenys and Meleys, two real ones!!
The reason Vhagar is able to surprise attack so well, is because She has been fighting for 170+ years. Shes fought next to The OG Aegon the Conquer.
Vhager fought and survived basically theCivil War, World War 1 & 2, the Korean War, with the Campaign in Dorne being Vietnam lol. She got tricks for generation lol.
Yeah, people misjudge her thinking she’s just a lumbering big old beast. But she rode with the best of the best and has more combat experience and tactical training than all the other dragons combined. And Shipwrecker Bay proved she doesn’t need her rider’s input to get a job done. She’s something else.
Sunfyre really is the most beautiful dragon ever !
was*
They really should have stuck to the books. Aegon flew Sunfyre for his coronation and the entire city cheered because it was so beautiful. Instead of that we got that dumb scene.
@@laffenthecatis, she still lives.
Syrax is
@@DxXizzy sunfyre is male, interesting.
All present Targaryen dragons
Rhaenyra - Syrax
Daemon - Caraxes
Rhaenys - Meleys
Jacaerys - Vermax
Lucerys - Arrax
Baela - Moondancer
Joffrey - Tyraxes
Aegon - Stormcloud
Unclaimed:
Seasmoke
Vermithor
Silverwing
Grey Ghost
Cannibal
(Sheepstealer - depends on if this dragon has been cut)
Aegon II - Sunfyre
Aemond - Vhagar
Helaena - Dreamfyre
Daeron - Tessarion
Idk if they will be cut but…
Jaehaerys and Jaehaera had little Shrykos and Morghul
Dragons fought each other when Maegor usurped his nephew. So this isn't the first Targ civil war.
Very true, this one is only on a larger scale and will have long lasting consequences for the dragons as a species.
And importantly, Vhagar actually participated in that war so she knows what she's doing.
He didn't usurp his nephew. The throne was there for the taking. If he didn't return to Westeros with Visenya, Aegon 1.5 and Rhaena would have been murdered by poor fellows in Crakehall and the Warriors Sons would have stormed Dragonstone and killed Jaehaerys, Alyssane and Viserys'.... Aegon 1.5 was an idiot, his uncle saved his life and his family's lifes work and the first thing he does is steal a dragon and oppose Maegor and villainize him to further divide the realm. Maegor was based and the Gods have him their favour, he won a trial of seven 🤷♂️
"He can't die, it would be the end of the series!" Bruh, does Chris hear himself? There's a royal line of lineage. Aegon has two brothers. Nothing would be over if he were to die. Not even close!
But he lives in the book................
I don't understand how Vhagar keeps sneak attacking other dragons considering how big she is. Probably due to battle experience. Anyway ima go cry now
Well she’s 180 years old
Vhaegar uses the blindspots of both rider and dragon to attack.
she has been in hundreds of war probably its just muscle memory for her at this point
I can't digest it, they keep showing Vhagar so stealthy. At Stormend the stealth attack is justifiable, but here? Iirc, this encounter was different in the book.
@@zephyrekansh Very different. Aemond and Aegon both ambush Meleys because neither were confident they could take on Meleys individually and win.
Sunfyre isn’t dead you can see him move, he is shielding Aegon
best dragon of the dance
There is a very subtle scene in the episode. When Sunfyre falls, he rotates before he lands.. this is probably to save Aegon
@@withextracheese8782 Yeah he lands on his stomach protecting Aegon from most of the force but he will still have many broken bones.
Can't fly, can't walk, heavily burnt, clawed torso, fell from the sky, stuck in the forest far from home..... it'll take a miracle for sunfyre to still be alive after this episode
@@pamoweiberezi5315it will be a miracle indeed.
I love sunfyre so much 😢😢😢😢
To be fair to Criston Cole, if you only saw him in this episode, he was pretty boss
A shame the other 90% of him this season is him STILL being bitter at Rhaenyra rejecting him
Criston is one of the few knights of his generation with actual battle experience, mostly because he's Dornish. That's why he's an effective battlefield commander. But he's an awful choice as Hand.
@@mrclean2751 bad fucking writing
Criston calling her a w*ore for the 150th time was like.. dude. Have you tried saying that to a mirror? Not very boss still being bitter about the teen that dissed you.
Sunfyre you absolute beauty😢
in the Book Sunfyre was described as the most beautiful Dragon in the history of Westeros and formidable at battle
Now Daemon’s plan of tag teaming with Rhaenys against Aemond doesn’t sound so bad. I know Rhaenyra wanted to avoid war, but Daemon was right about how to deal with the greens, hesitation is going to cost her more in the end.
Still think Aegon is more in the right than he knows. Daemon has Harrenhal, sure, but he doesn't have any real support yet. One dragon could probably take him out before he could reach Caraxes, if they were quick enough.
Alyn is maybe among my favorite characters to be introduced to in Season 2.
I do appreciate the fact that Rhaenys knew about him and didnt hate him,as opposed to how Catelyn treated Jon snow.
The dragons didn't deserve this. This is why they went extinct until Danny.
Aegon is seeming like a less insane version of homelander. His childhood exactly mirrors Homelander and how he craves love, by design. Alicent really made him King with no concern for him at all, and always wanted to rule through him, instead of actually helping
Alicent is a toxic mother.
Good comparison
This is a great point
@@maximumpotential3796 A toxic mother raised by a toxic father.
@@JimmySteller I have a theory that Otto craves power so much that he poisoned Jahearys children and even Viserys. Making it look like natural causes. He carefully planted Alicent having already figured out Viserys's interests and weaknesses. As you said he also ruined Alicent's life by twisting her mental state to evil levels.
Meleys looking at her before she dies and closes her eyes, what an emotional rollercoaster it has been, this episode is really the best!!
we already know Targaryen's aren't fireproof because Vhagar burned Laena (after Laena begged her to)
and viserys dying in game of thrones (technically not fire, but heat). and daemon being burnt last season
You're 100% right about the Targs not being fireproof. However, Laena was a Velaryon.
@@clairevandross9181 still a targaryen too
@@lewis0705 oh jeez I'm a total idiot. How could I have overlooked her mom, ya know the one we're all talking about in this episode. Yes, you're right and I need a nap or a cognitive test.
lmao i thought about mentioning that she was a targaryen from her mothers side but felt it was obvious she was a targ since she was a dragon rider 😭
Targaryen don't burn is a myth. They do burn, all of them. Daenerys had the spell of that witch guarding her. And Aegon & Sunfyre both are still very much alive. They have shit to fuck 😂😂😂
What about when she walked out of flames after she burned the khals? Or when daemon rode through vaghars fire? I'm not saying they're completely immune but some of them clearly have some resistance
@@ItsAme7143 "According to semi-canon sources, the Targaryens can tolerate more heat than most ordinary people, but they are not immune to fire" Wiki
@@ItsAme7143 Daemon didn't stay still in the fire. Haven't you seen horse riders pass straight through fire ?? And just as I said l, she was protected by dark magic.
@@ItsAme7143 The whole Daenerys walking out of the flames after she burns the Khals was show-only. GRRM has explicitly stated that it was just a onetime occurrence for Daenerys, steeped in blood magic.
The witch died. So it wasn't her magic. George said it was miracle, magical, wonderous moment. Not because of Mirri.
"Princess Rhaenys made no attempt to flee. With a glad cry and a crack of her whip, she turned Meleys to her enemies." 💔 - Fire & Blood (Im fuckin cryin bros) RIP to the Red Queen, and The Queen Who SHOULDVE Been.
the look from Meley to Rhaeny's mom, we're dying now, farewell, I just cried more
Me too 😢😢 they looked at each other 😢😢😢😢
Well ONCE AGAIN, Daemon was right and they really could've taken Vhagar out 2v1 but no one listened to him 😂
Yep. Daemon should have been heir. The Greens would not be a problem. He and Rhaenys are the only competent people on the Blacks. The only ones.
Can everyone who's read the books stop giving spoilers? wtf
This fanbase doesn't know how to leave comments that aren't spoilers. We learned this Season 1 GoT. They have absolutely no self control. A literal embarrassment to fandoms.
@withxoutxlife
Agreed, they're the worst. We get it, you read the books well done!
Now shut up or F.O!
Everyone you see in this show will die except a few of them, you're welcome.
@@withxoutxlifeI've read the main series three times but haven't gotten to Fire and Blood. Three days ago I got an Eve Best and Steve Touissant interview recommended. Literally every single comment was along the lines of "it's really nice that they did this before her death in the next episode", "RIP Rhaenys" etc. Fucking abysmal
I think is kinda hard since the book came out years ago most people assume many people know what happened since is like history and also Joffrey in GOT also Spoiled it in some way. But I understand your frustration, as a book reader I always try to avoid that and only explain things within the current episode.
The reason Rhaenys didn’t leave is cuz she also kinda want to prove herself, in the book it said there is a fair chance Rhaenys can beat Vaghar. And for the TV canon I think Rhaenys also feel a bit bad that she didn’t end the war back then where she had the chance to burn them all.
I actually feel so bad for Sunfyre, such a beautiful dragon sent on a suicide mission basically for no reason.
They should have built up Sunfyre's profile before now.
Before this in the books, the only time Sunfire is brought up with Aegon is when he rides him/her around the city after being crowned.. And he does this in this episode, so it made sense why they didn't want to double that scene. But I'd agree, would of been nice to see them together just even once more.
@@traviscue2099he technically was in season 1, just not in full focus. I don't like that they changed his wing colour between seasons.
@@rionedmonds7538 Oh you can see Sunfyre in scenes, just that there's no real interaction with that Dragon.
I assume its due to we're seeing that dragon close up now, so they had the time to give him extra detail/make it look pretty.
q@@traviscue2099❤
@@jvdpc7 eh, I disagree. That's a book change I preferred. But each to their own.
Hail The Queen That Never Was. Rhaenyse Valeryon. Wife to Corlys Valeryon,
Daughter of Aemon Targaryen and granddaughter of King Jaehaerys Targaryen
(The Old King)
If she had sat the Iron Throne all that has happened and will happen would never come to pass.
R.I.P to Meleys.
by that very same logic, Princess Rhaena's the Queen Who Never Was as well, who if she sat the throne, things could have been far different.
Aemond's plan was just to ambush whoever came in from Rhaenyra's side to help Rook's Rest. He didn't plan on Aegon showing up with Sunfyre, but when he saw them clashing he took the opportunity to take them both out. Also Aemond was sheathing his sword because he saw the dagger on the ground. If Cole wasn't there, Aemond would've ended Aegon's life right then.
Aemond is a bitch picking cheap fights since the start first the eye then the brothel scene........he is salty at everyone and straight-up cruel. His dragon that he stole killed 3 dragons maybe that's why no dragon bonded with him in the first place they knew he was a problem.
“Do you not like this job” is so real
Because at first he didn’t even want the job 😂😂
Aegons true arc starts now, the man lives out of pure spite and hatred, and he becomes a menace.
He needs to put all that rage towards his traitorous brother.
@@sabinebaker6311nah, we save it all for Maegor with teats.
@@AzulApe ah yes, a woman who has done nothing extreme gets the misogynistic title of "meagor the teats" but not her half brother, Aemond. Who goes on murder spree with anyone with the name "strong".
I swear greenies just want an excuse to be misogynistic
Joffrey vs Aegon
It seems they might of just set up aegon v aemond.
Willem Blackwood who Daemons talking to is the same person as the kid he killed that other guy insulting him while he was asking for Rhaenyra’s hand in season 1
For all Aegon's faults, he may have been drunk on wine and desperation to prove himself, but unlike Aemond, who wields the biggest Dragon in the world yet prefers hit-and-run tactics (like some Sharks that do it to Seals to avoid injury), Aegon fearlessly attacked a Dragon twice Sunfyre's size. Only wish to keep to the books where the Greens' Dragon ambush IS Aegon's idea.
Sure they say that in the history books, so that Aegon doesn’t look dumb and drunk
There's a fine line between bravery and stupidity
@@BhBc8f8yup and Rhaenyra was stupid last episode and Aegon was this episode. They're both stupid fucks who shouldn't rule.
I swear half of you either have read a different version of Fire & Blood or just confidently spouting off whatever comes to mind. The dragon trap was Cole's idea in both mediums. Aegon is pretty useless as a strategist at this point of the war.
Aemond is such a great character jesuss
He is just stupid and will do way more stupid moves later believe me🤦🏽
@@TheDream6842L take
He's becoming very hateable.
Daemon forever.
@@TheDream6842 doesnt matter hes 100% more interesting than everyone on team black
Targaryens. Are. Not. Fireproof.
That was literally just a Dany thing. The closest the others have gotten is showing some resistance to heat. But they are not fireproof.
That HURT. 😭
Yes yes it did. 😢
Losing Rhaenys is devastating both in the story and the show as a whole. Eve Best was one of the greatest parts of this show and I'm truly gonna miss her.
This is not exactly the first time a dragon is fighting a dragon in Westeros before…
Maegor I, the Cruel, third King and son of Aegon the conqueror, fought with his dragon Balerion against Aegon (another Aegon) and his dragon Quicksilver…. They fought above „Godseye“ a little island in a big lake near Harrenhal.
Well… Maegor won on Balerions back against the much quicker dragon.
But after these yeah. This battle in this episode was the first real fight of dragons against each other since than and old Valyria.
If there was another Aegon already why do they keep calling this Aegon the second ? Wouldn’t this (alicent’s son) Aegon be the third if Maegor the cruel killed Aegon the second?
The Andals brought the religion of the faith of the seven to westeros. The first men were there first and they believed in the old gods. They fought for thousands of years before the Andals took over most of the seven kingdoms except the north. Thats why the olds gods and most of the weirwood trees are still prominent in the north. The Targaryens dont really believe in the faith or the old gods either. They only act like they believe in the faith of the seven because when the Aegon the conquerer took over, the Andals were in power in most of the seven kingdoms and mostly everyone now believes in the faith except the north.
Edit: Yes the Andals came from Essos. They were chased out by Old Valyria.
She was protecting the houses that stand with them. It’s either fend them off or die trying.. fleeing was never an option.
Someone tell Chris that Targaryens aren't immune to fire, only Daenerys was an exception because of blood magic
Pointless... they're casuals they don't pay attention they just watch and clap like seals.
What about when she burned the khals and walked slowly out of the fire? And what about when daemon rode through vaghars fire in season one?
@@ItsAme7143 caraxes had his wings wrapped around daemon during that scene. Countless Targaryens have died from fire only Daenerys survived it
@@Att964 ohh okay, I didn't think that all Targaryens were immune to fire I just didn't know if it was a rare thing or a daenarys thing that those dumbasses d&d added
@@ItsAme7143it was a D&D thing. Daenerys was supposed to survive the fire the one time, but they had no clue how to resolve the Vaes Dothrak plotline so they made it happen again and ended up giving us some very stupid implications
Sunfyre and Aegon are not dead, they have one really important task to do right at the end
as a criston cole only supporter i enjoyed every tear in this reaction
Me too. I am team green
I´m blind to the source and also a Green enthusiast but keep Cole on the battlefield and away from fucking women.
just waiting for daemon to come and give backshots to both aemond and vhaghar
He used a thousand people to lure out a dragon his the main reason thousands of people died there.
@@WarNeverChanges9191
Why pretend to care about the death of thousands ??
When Cole’s plan did kill a woman who murdered thousands in Kings Landing …
as much as you wanna hate aegon he’s got a special bond with sunfyre
To be honest I don't really wanna hate him (yet), he's like a more sympathetic homelander with his fucked up childhood. If he wasn't a rapist I'd probably like him.
the theory that Larys Strong can see trough the eyes of the rats seems actually possible with him probably knowing the witch of harrenhal (its his half sister)
Caraxes is the only War trained dragon the Blacks have right now after Meleys's death💀.
All the Unclaimed dragons are unreliable.
The unclaimed dragons are as reliable as there future riders, vermithor would be a menace with a good rider.
Suraj, All animals fight. Dragons would be no different. In conditions where Tagaryens or Valerians aren't controlling them, I imagine, they battle for territory, mates, etc.
This episode was so wild. My jaw was open for like half of it. We are so back.
RIP to the queen who never was, knew what's gonna happen but my heart still hurt for her and Meleys, anyway Aemond ur time is coming
Rhaneys is a mass murderer and a hypocrite, so it was hard for me to feel bad for her death.
no its not stfu
this episode made me love aemond ahaha, anyways rip the queen who never was
@@hakone1841 Gotta respect him for that hahah, I mean he gained the biggest dragon lol
@@aleen1260 yeah i mean i am team black, but im not a team green hater because i really enjoy all the characters.
The Queen who never was, The legend who forever will be.
Aemond could have used Claw Attack, Blade Swipe, or Wing Gust but chose AOE Dracarys 🤣🤣🤣
The last look 😢 they saw each other 😭😭
Rana:(seeing Vhagar)"NONONONONO!"
Me:(Green fan)".....Yes!"
"If he's a true Targaryen, he'll walk it off!"
I'm sick of that myth. Targaryen's aren't immune to fire. Book Dany only survived the one time thanks to the mystical causes that allowed her dragons to hatch. Later in book 5, she gets torched by Drogon and her clothes catch fire and her hair burns away, though she luckily survives, at least.
Oh, don't worry. The best claimant, Aegon, still lives.
Daemon had the correct strategy from the beginning. He had ordered Rhaenys to ride with him so both could attack Vhagar simultaneously because she was so big & killing Aemon at the same time. Rhaenys answer was no, he couldn't order her because he wasn't king. Big mistake.
Exactly, first she missed the opportunity to end it all by frying the damn bunch of them Hightowers and their allies at the dragon pit; and then she just let her grudges towards Daemon cloud her judgement _she even successfully drove a wedge between him and Rhaenyra!!! Her death is heroic but she made really dumb decisions..
I literally BALLED MY EYES OUT so bad!! Rhaenys was my favourite character, such an amazing strong woman, she will be deeply missed. She would've been such a powrful hand to Rhaenyra!
And poor innocent baby Sunfyre just thought he was going for a flight with his beloved rider, poor baby didn't deserve any of this, I really hope he survives
I feel the exact same way. She was my favorite character so much so that I’m ALMOST not interested in the rest of this story. She was such a fucking badass in every scene. Meleys was also my favorite dragon.
How is it possible that even now people assume Targaryens are fire proof? Dragons are not fire proof, yet alone Targaryens.
I love the little moments between the Targaryens and their dragons this episode.
When Aegon was about to depart with Sunfyre, he looked so happy holding his dragon's head in his hands, almost like he was holding a beloved pet. Sunfyre also seemed to be pretty close with Aegon probably because he hasn't bonded with any other Targaryens.
Same with Rhaenys and her dragon Meleys. As they're departing, she calls her dragon "old girl" which I thought was touching. Then during the final moments of the battle when Meleys is getting her neck bitten by Vhagar and you can see the life draining from her, she looks back at Rhaenys with a look that seems like it's conveying something along the lines of "I'm sorry, I did my best..." That part got me honestly. We lost TWO queens in this episode honestly: the Red Queen (Meleys) and the Queen who never was (Rhaenys).
Daemon:
mushy peas? 👎
Sus potion? 👍
Daemon tryna smash Alys
Incredible reactions you guys! It was so good to see everyone here for this one. I can't wait to you guys get to the actual Dance Of Dragons which will probably be season 3
I knew this was coming and it still hurt me lol
Did anyone not notice that amazing shot when Sunfyre was laying injured and SUN rays were coming through and there was FIRE all around. I think that was a superb shot.
RIP Rhaenys....Daemon kept accusing her of not "finishing the job" when she had the chance last season. Now, she decided to stay and fight till the end. Respect Queen ❤
I respect her braveness but she should have listened to Deamon. If they teamed up vhagar would be dead. War would basically be as good as won
19:48 Marketa being stressed and Chris goes "Drink" because she guessed Cole's line lmfaooo
(Hyperventilating) DRAGON KOMMMMMMBAAAAAAAT!
"you've not been yourself of late" cant believe ryan condal is making me agree with larys this is wild
This episode was amazing
They keep referencing the Song of Ice and Fire not for the last seasons of GoT, but for the books that are still unfinished, and Aegon's dream is important new lore in this universe.
I kinda wish they stuck to the book on how this battle went. Meleys went out a true badass, taking on two on one and still whooping their asses instead of the one at a time that the show went with.
I agree.
Same, I kinda hate how she was killed. It doesn't make sense that vhagar was that stealthy. Ig sneak attack lol
exactly some things do not need to be changed
Tbf Meyleys still went out like a bad ass challenging the biggest living dragon to a 1v1 when she could have fled.
I think it would have been difficult to make that work visually. Sometimes what works in a book just doesn’t translate. This way we got Meleys taking on 2 dragons and making her mark on this war.
Regarding the egg, Ryan Condal has clarifies it is not Dany egg as Geeta Patel who directed ep 3 said.
[However, Condal now clarifies to Entertainment Weekly that those eggs are not definitively Dany's. “I think the fun of the history as it was written is that there’s room for interpretation,” he says. “I like to think of it as one possible future.”]
Love Sunfyre's boop
Rhaenys wanted to make sure she does everything she can this time, she was the first one to get blamed for not ending the greens when she had the chance. This was her second and a more "proper" chance, since it's already a war.
Dragons have been fighting each other for years , Meleys even had seen dragon war against Maegor
Meleys never fought Maegor
@@thegreatpage5912 ahhh yea I see , thats my faultt
The only known time before the Dance that dragons fought eachother was when Maegor on Balerion ambushed Aegon the Uncrowned on Silverwing, a much smaller dragon. It was a massacre, and Maegor earned his moniker "the Cruel" for killing his own nephew.
Vhagar signature move RKO outta nowhere
I am just sad for the dragons in this series, not even the people. Poor creatures. 🤧
Bro was really drunk on a dragon 😂
Amazing episode!!! Loved every second of it
The king having bastards is potentially a huge issue. Look up the Blackfyre rebellions.
I loved the scenes with the dragons but I also hated the scenes with the dragons. Rhaenys and Meleys made me cry but I loved seeing Aegon and Sunfyre bond for a brief second. I felt so bad for the dragons. Vhagar is a old and nasty girl. It was also great to see Jace actually be a real character, he wants revenge for his brother and I don't blame him. I almost feel bad for Aegon but Alicent is 100% right, he should listen to Otto and her because they have the experience and Otto is very smart.
You could really tell Jace is starting to take after his step dad.
Rhaenys was low key my favourite character played by Eve Best. Kind of amazing how well they've pulled this show off possibly short term memory but I'm enjoying it as much as peak game of thrones albeit it more of a channelled/focused script. You don't get that game of thrones open map feel but it's really opening up now.
According to the family tree I found online, Maelys (Rhaenys’ dragon) is Vhagar’s granddaughter (we will not be calling it grand-dragon google if you don’t know) so Maelys be fighting be grandma 😭😭😭
Also, Vhagar and Meleys former rider were Baelon and Alyssa Targaryen, parents of Viserys and Daemon.
I liked how the soldiers in this actually wear the colors of the houses they are raised from. This is not like GoT where each of the great houses's uniforms are the only ones.