Chairlift Destroy Crash Test

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  • Опубліковано 24 сер 2024
  • Chairlift Destroy Crash Test

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  • @Mobile_Fire_Hazard
    @Mobile_Fire_Hazard 6 місяців тому +10

    These tests toe the line between "productive research" and "screwing around" and I love it

  • @-_______________________.___
    @-_______________________.___ 2 роки тому +76

    Lesson learnt If the chair starts moving super fast backwards just jump the fuck off cause it's better to break your legs than it is to have your entire body bent like a pretzel.

    • @phoenixgamer8134
      @phoenixgamer8134 8 місяців тому

      pretsels dont bend, they crumble. Thats what will happen, you will crumble, So Yeah, Jump the fuck off

    • @craigbosko2229
      @craigbosko2229 4 місяці тому

      Yes and no,as far as jumping off the chair,it depends on how many feet a person is above the ground 2nd,all the chairlift operator has to do is press the E-BRAKE button in.

  • @Vulpovile
    @Vulpovile 8 місяців тому +10

    "the lift was ready to run the next morning"
    AFTER THAT?
    That's incredible!

  • @ikickallass
    @ikickallass 11 років тому +228

    This wasn't a waste at all. They learned some very valuable things from these tests that make our current chairlifts that much safer.

    • @TommyNewnes
      @TommyNewnes 3 роки тому +11

      Exactly. I doubt they could have gotten much money for the lift, even back in 1990. It was probably going to get scrapped anyway, although they had multiple other Riblets at the time, so I'm sure they kept useable parts as spares.

    • @Z-Ack
      @Z-Ack 2 роки тому +2

      Except that this exact same thing has happene multiple times and killed dozens of people when they fucked up.. even with modern safety protocol and devicea, when not maintained the shit still can pop off….

    • @isabelpalix3890
      @isabelpalix3890 2 роки тому +7

      @@Z-Ack I think in the last 40 years there have only been 12 deaths relating to ski lifts and not every case was caused by the lift itself. Rollbacks are incredibly rare, especially if the resort is properly maintained. I work as a lift attendant and every one of our lifts are checked multiple times a day to prevent potentially hazardous issues

    • @Revishnov
      @Revishnov Рік тому

      You know your right but just for fun facts the european countries can decide to have or not have a roll back safety

    • @SimonBauer7
      @SimonBauer7 5 місяців тому

      you mean ghaudri? that was multiple safety systems either not being engaged or failing.​@@Z-Ack

  • @mrtangerillo7758
    @mrtangerillo7758 2 роки тому +23

    Now that’s a fast lift. Even has auto eject for those who don’t know how to get off of a lift.

  • @akiko009
    @akiko009 2 роки тому +16

    Some Georgian lift operators clearly skipped this video...

  • @EATSLEEPDRIVE2002
    @EATSLEEPDRIVE2002 Рік тому +19

    No one:
    UA-cam: “Wanna see some guys abuse a ski lift?”
    Me: “The Fk I do.”

  • @cjpwolf2436
    @cjpwolf2436 Рік тому +7

    I Saw this video in 2012 when I had a fascinated by Lego chairlifts. This video brings back memories.

  • @Raven4122
    @Raven4122 9 років тому +48

    nice to see some last tests being done. The new lifts are so much better because of tests like these

  • @rterry2752
    @rterry2752 2 роки тому +10

    Love the workers running for their lives.

  • @rallyart911
    @rallyart911 10 років тому +79

    Some scary tests, but never the less. By the controlled catastrophic scenarios, finding the crutches of the chair system where all hopefully ruled out to further the safety and emergency equipment to prevent such events. Excellent example of amazing engineering (:

    • @ripperro
      @ripperro Рік тому

      Cant wait to got on this coaster!

  • @HillOrStream
    @HillOrStream 11 років тому +44

    Took a lot of abuse to take the old Riblet lift down. Built right, many still in use.

  • @sir_bumpalot
    @sir_bumpalot 2 роки тому +22

    This is the standard test routine which is done every morning.

  • @HKPSG1Shooter
    @HKPSG1Shooter 3 роки тому +27

    The rollback was the most frightening one to watch, just imagining being on a lift doing that. 😳

    • @craigbosko2229
      @craigbosko2229 3 роки тому +2

      SORRY,I DON'T HAVE A IMAGINATION THAT WILL LET ME IMAGINATE INTO BEING ON A CHAIRLIFT WHILE IT'S RUNNING BACKWARDS.

    • @HKPSG1Shooter
      @HKPSG1Shooter 3 роки тому +4

      @@craigbosko2229 Well there's a video of this very thing happening at a ski lift in Georgia (I think) It's on youtube.
      Several people get slug off, a few more are in the path of the chairs and get clobbered by them.

    • @caiwilkie6453
      @caiwilkie6453 2 роки тому +8

      @@HKPSG1Shooter it was 100% human error, the emergency braking system was overriden by the operators prior to the rollback. The brakes could have been activated manually during the incident but the staff failed to do so.
      Ski lifts have extensive safety mesures and equipment, this should never happen by itself

    • @nickmaclachlan5178
      @nickmaclachlan5178 2 роки тому +2

      @@caiwilkie6453 AKA never book a Ski trip to Georgia.......

    • @Retikulum01
      @Retikulum01 Рік тому +1

      @@nickmaclachlan5178 Apereantly the guys on the rollback in georgia came back 1 day later

  • @iloveRUSSIAAA
    @iloveRUSSIAAA 10 років тому +31

    Shows how well Riblets were built... Although its sad to see an old lift go out like that.

    • @josephastier7421
      @josephastier7421 2 роки тому +3

      It went down fighting. Better than just getting silently dismantled and scrapped.

  • @seykai
    @seykai 9 років тому +94

    Sad to see lifts "dying" like that. :( I'm happy though that now, we know more things on ski-lift safety! :D

    • @therobertbobski
      @therobertbobski 6 років тому +2

      Alex no Sekai yeah sure

    • @nypad5
      @nypad5 6 років тому +1

      winkyface EX DEE

    • @JAnx01
      @JAnx01 6 років тому

      Apparently, the rollback test was a waste of time:
      ua-cam.com/video/BGLTtu-RUvo/v-deo.html

    • @austins.3313
      @austins.3313 5 років тому +5

      @@JAnx01 Different Lift design, different country, you cannot make this comparison.

    • @JAnx01
      @JAnx01 5 років тому +4

      @@austins.3313
      The basic principles behind a fixed chair lift will always remain the same unless the laws of physics change. Doppelmayr participated in this test, so that makes your argument invalid.

  • @thegluglug693
    @thegluglug693 8 років тому +47

    I have worked on lifts and have seen actual problems with real world roll backs and this stuff is scary.

  • @jackh3824
    @jackh3824 6 років тому +23

    Georgia brought me here LMFAO!

  • @carlenger9707
    @carlenger9707 5 років тому +9

    God it's so weird seeing Eskimo as a riblet.

  • @okhan5087
    @okhan5087 9 років тому +14

    Riblets were really rugged. There are quite a few still in use. Chair 1 at mount Baker was over 60 years old when retired in 2010.( built in 1952)

    • @okhan5087
      @okhan5087 8 років тому +2

      TheGameShack Yeah I am glad that there at least some Riblets left. Resorts have even started replacing their quad chairs like Squaw Valley's Siberia Express.

    • @okhan5087
      @okhan5087 8 років тому +1

      Yeah, I think I have heard about that Chair 1.
      I ski at Squaw Valley, and I remember their old yan double, the Cornice II chair. That lift went right over a giant cliff before you reached the top. Sadly it was torn down in 2013 and I never rode it as it almost never operated but it was a cool chair

    • @powderturns
      @powderturns 7 років тому +2

      I believe two lifts at Whitewater near Nelson BC are Riblets.

    • @B.C_Reloaded
      @B.C_Reloaded 7 років тому +1

      they took down one of the doubles
      :(

    • @finnlikesplanes7110
      @finnlikesplanes7110 2 роки тому +1

      i think crystal mountain, BC had one but it had a cable come off and injure people

  • @-Ride4U
    @-Ride4U 6 років тому +111

    Anyone here from the recent accident with a ski lift?

    • @superpilotdude
      @superpilotdude 6 років тому +2

      Nathan Merritt yep

    • @-Ride4U
      @-Ride4U 6 років тому +3

      superpilotdude howdy

    • @redpill5471
      @redpill5471 4 роки тому +1

      That was the lift I used to run in the late 70's. LoL that was great! Learned to ski there in 1965 age 9 and still going. Yay Danny Pufpoph my bud!

    • @devinthierault
      @devinthierault 3 роки тому +1

      Great to see how safe these are even in the event of a failure.

  • @HillOrStream
    @HillOrStream 11 років тому +9

    They mention Winter Park's technicians and their ability to get the life fixed between tests.

  • @Bruh-bx9mh
    @Bruh-bx9mh 5 років тому +28

    5:20 *the true Express lift*

  • @nedakalTNT
    @nedakalTNT 5 років тому +10

    this must be the old eskimo, now they have a high speed quad

  • @eliasaberg
    @eliasaberg 5 років тому +7

    On this episode of "Why tf did youtube recommend me this"

  • @harrybroughton4999
    @harrybroughton4999 6 років тому +4

    There's a fixed grip chairlift in Chamonix in the French Alps that must be at least 50 years old now. This reminds me of it!

  • @josephastier7421
    @josephastier7421 2 роки тому +3

    A chairlift in fallback becomes a trebuchet at the bull wheel. You must jump off before you reach it.

  • @PorterTheFanCollector
    @PorterTheFanCollector 3 роки тому +6

    5:00, my favorite out of all of them.

  • @ardagii
    @ardagii 5 років тому +5

    Kudoes to the civil engineers that designed the towers, I expected more overdimensioning in the steel elements, welding or underdimensioning of foundation blocks

  • @leroybrown9873
    @leroybrown9873 3 роки тому +8

    I remember watching this during lift op training😂

    • @craigbosko2229
      @craigbosko2229 3 роки тому +1

      I'VE WATCHED THIS VIDEO MANY TIMES,1ST TIME AT SUMMIT AT SNOQUALMIE, WASHINGTON STATE,2ND TIME AT STEVENS PASS, WASHINGTON STATE, I'VE SEEN IT AROUND 8-10 TIMES AND THE 1ST TIME WAS IN 1994.BRINGS BACK ALOT OF MEMORIES.

  • @ashlynnhickok9476
    @ashlynnhickok9476 7 років тому +13

    ha, this is great, I used to work here xD I've run the Eskimo a few times before, but it's a lot more up to date nowadays!

  • @mavver
    @mavver 6 років тому +5

    when I saw today news from Georgia I reminded this test... worst snowboarder/skier nightmare...

    • @DarkTenka
      @DarkTenka 6 років тому

      mavver Also here because of the Georgia video... Skii'd all my life and never even knew such a thing was possible. .

  • @TackleTheDog
    @TackleTheDog 2 роки тому +1

    These Riblets are built like goddamn tanks! I’m proud that our hill still operates a Riblet triple

  • @Rowdybusch_8
    @Rowdybusch_8 2 роки тому +1

    The new combo assembly actually come from the tree test so it does not come of the sheaves

  • @x86_architecture10
    @x86_architecture10 3 роки тому +3

    "And bent like pretzels".

  • @louisecassidy5991
    @louisecassidy5991 3 роки тому +3

    Can't properly test for rollback unless uphill line is loaded! Oh, ok, they loaded the chairs. I guess this lift was to be replaced anyway, got some age on it. I worked chairlifts in Perisher, Australia, late 79's and to this day had not known such things could even happen, never came up in our training.

  • @skuula
    @skuula 6 років тому +3

    After the test, they deemed the equipment to be safe and of so high quality that they repaired and recommissioned it...
    :)

    • @connorisanidioot
      @connorisanidioot 5 років тому +6

      Actually the lift was replaced by a triple then again replaced by a quad detachable in the very late 90s

  • @Retikulum01
    @Retikulum01 Рік тому

    6:59 i just love imagining a guy standing on top of the hill, drove up with his truck and just standing here with a camcorder

  • @dickenya3278
    @dickenya3278 6 років тому +5

    Why am I watching this?

  • @gofergold8863
    @gofergold8863 5 років тому +2

    Im a green lift operator and this scares me because ours are 70 years old.

  • @vcummins
    @vcummins 6 років тому +3

    3:25 Chair: Wait why are we slowing down? WAIT WHAT IS GOING ON IM GOING IN REVERSE!

    • @user-lx3th5on8l
      @user-lx3th5on8l 5 місяців тому

      Proceeds to get catapulted of the chair 😂

  • @Retikulum01
    @Retikulum01 Рік тому +2

    Imagine doing the rollback test today 😼

  • @alexferguson9836
    @alexferguson9836 3 роки тому +7

    Yeah. This test would never take place now. In 2020. Still pretty savage video. Lifts are gnarly!!!

  • @mikehunt3987
    @mikehunt3987 2 роки тому +1

    I worked as a lifty a couple seasons.
    We had a roll back one time and it whipped a couple people off.
    I guess a couple people got injured pretty bad.
    It was only three or four chairs, luckly it was stopped before it got totally out of control.

  • @TheTruthKiwi
    @TheTruthKiwi 2 роки тому +1

    Is this the same narrator that does the funny "Turbo Encabulator" video?
    4:52 Holy, that's multiple fatalities right there and it took those dudes a while to get out of the way of the flying concrete!
    Also, 1990 seems like a different world to today. It'd be interesting to see what a modern instructional/experimental video looks like. Just clearer with more graphics probably.

  • @okhan5087
    @okhan5087 9 років тому +3

    this sort of reminds me of the old Red Dog lift at squaw valley

  • @Erik-gg2vb
    @Erik-gg2vb Рік тому

    That brake failure with the cement bags was a scary site. Many lives would had been lost.

  • @carsonhoward2884
    @carsonhoward2884 3 роки тому +5

    It makes me sad they changed the name of this beautiful lift she ran good a little extra info the top terminal was replaced by YAN(lift engineering) around the late 1980s. As it was an awesome lift it’s sad it didn’t move on somewhere else in stead of being absolutely destroyed

  • @King42089
    @King42089 4 роки тому +2

    Guys these hard hats will protect against 50 pound flying cinderblocks right?

  • @geonerd
    @geonerd 4 роки тому +2

    5:30 "Run away. RUN AWAY!!!"

    • @Mainyehc
      @Mainyehc 2 роки тому

      Right after “Fetchez la vache” 😂

  • @CorrodedGalaxy
    @CorrodedGalaxy Рік тому

    If anyone doesn’t understand the incident, Yan was a company that went bankrupt because of an incident where 8 people were killed due to a faulty chairlift/s falling off due to the grip. They shut down all the Yan chairlifts, and destroyed this one.

  • @simplyryguy9335
    @simplyryguy9335 Рік тому

    Riblet made a great lift for many many years. Sadly they sealed their fate by not investing and getting into the high speed detachable area. There is still a 1960s vintage Riblet lift running at Winter Park as of 2023, called Looking Glass. However- her days are numbered. Lots of other old Riblets still in use throughout the USA and Canada.

    • @CrobinHood8BitGuy
      @CrobinHood8BitGuy 6 місяців тому

      I have one at my local hill. I normally take the rope tow though if it’s an option unless I’m tired.

  • @Retikulum01
    @Retikulum01 Рік тому +2

    4:59 what is that block the chairs were crashing onto?

  • @iViking90
    @iViking90 6 років тому +7

    Wow, just like what happened in Georgia.

  • @Milkmans_Son
    @Milkmans_Son 6 років тому +7

    5m06s tells me what I wanted to know: yes, jump.

  • @nameismetatoo4591
    @nameismetatoo4591 3 роки тому +1

    When Engineering becomes Ungineering

  • @jamesmp5k
    @jamesmp5k 11 років тому +5

    Good lord! This would be a nightmare if it were to happen...

  • @telon35
    @telon35 9 років тому +14

    When the chairs were flying i was picturing people on them LOL!

    • @glibbergloop
      @glibbergloop 9 років тому

      Apocalypse38 So terrifying!

    • @BoratWuschki
      @BoratWuschki 6 років тому +5

      well stuff like this also happened. the more you know...

    • @linomirgeler1884
      @linomirgeler1884 6 років тому +4

      If you google georgia chairlift rollback, you can see exactly that

    • @Captain_-
      @Captain_- 6 років тому +1

      You could tell the future!

    • @spiddyman0079
      @spiddyman0079 6 років тому

      ua-cam.com/video/dk_BR77VNJ8/v-deo.html

  • @professorlonghair7379
    @professorlonghair7379 3 роки тому

    The Detachable Double 👆

  • @CombraStudios
    @CombraStudios 7 років тому +8

    5:03 is extremely funny

    • @CombraStudios
      @CombraStudios 7 років тому

      6:52 is funny too

    • @elpersonpl576
      @elpersonpl576 4 роки тому

      @@CombraStudios nobody asked

    • @CombraStudios
      @CombraStudios 4 роки тому +1

      @@elpersonpl576 life is more than answering questions

  • @glibbergloop
    @glibbergloop 9 років тому +1

    10:08 -- made my eyes get huge

  • @PhilipBallGarry
    @PhilipBallGarry 3 роки тому +1

    What Fun they had!

  • @otownhogan1420
    @otownhogan1420 Рік тому

    Mmm smores! Just a perfect fire.

  • @enkerl9172
    @enkerl9172 2 роки тому

    R.I.P.Alter Herr

  • @veoozo
    @veoozo 9 років тому

    I am going skiing tomorrow. This will be in my mind lol

  • @leitnerpomaskiliftlover9276
    @leitnerpomaskiliftlover9276 3 роки тому +3

    Remember, NEVER destruct your chairlift or you will be fired!!!

    • @josephastier7421
      @josephastier7421 2 роки тому

      Right? Just doing this on your own to see what happens is frowned upon by management.

  • @JimmyCasino
    @JimmyCasino 5 років тому +1

    This is brutal!

  • @SkiDaBird
    @SkiDaBird 10 років тому +3

    I'd like to see the do this with a detachable now a days.

    • @avocadoandy8652
      @avocadoandy8652 6 років тому +1

      I don't know if that kind of thing is possible on a detachable, the chairs already detach, although the deceleration/acceleration might have a hard time keeping up, causing some minimal damage.

    • @SimonBauer7
      @SimonBauer7 2 роки тому

      it is possible but it wouldnt be as bad as the stations tires are driven off the haul rope mostly so the tires would just spin up and then the chairs would just go faster through the station although i dont know if attaching works in reverse.

  • @lalenalent7558
    @lalenalent7558 4 роки тому

    the breaking part is funny

  • @GarryReyom
    @GarryReyom 2 роки тому

    Have y’all seen the video of the lift throwing people off?

  • @MrDemoable
    @MrDemoable 9 років тому +1

    dam that looks like fun

  • @donovanhill6078
    @donovanhill6078 10 років тому +3

    this video was great!

  • @TheSnowboardGuyBreezy
    @TheSnowboardGuyBreezy 2 роки тому

    Georgia should of saw this coming…

  • @edwardhill1739
    @edwardhill1739 4 роки тому

    Watched this b4 i did my first rollback test.

  • @enkerl9172
    @enkerl9172 2 роки тому

    So soll es sein.Der Test ist bestanden.RIP alter Lift

  • @eskileriksson4457
    @eskileriksson4457 6 років тому +1

    How about an American Stealth bomber buzzing the Italian alps, cutting a cable car wire with it's tailfin, killing a gondola full of people? Yeah, that actually happened.

    • @Keifsanderson
      @Keifsanderson 6 років тому +1

      It was not a "stealth bomber;" the B-2 Spirit has no tail. It was an A-6 or EA-6B if I recall. That was terrible.

    • @eskileriksson4457
      @eskileriksson4457 6 років тому

      Sounds right. I think it was wrongly reported back then, or maybe my memory failed.

    • @Keifsanderson
      @Keifsanderson 6 років тому +1

      Yeah. I've heard it was a combination of outdated/incorrect charts and pilot flying too low.

  • @sky173
    @sky173 3 роки тому +1

    Well... I guess I'm done skiing.

    • @CrobinHood8BitGuy
      @CrobinHood8BitGuy 6 місяців тому +1

      I’ll take the tow rope.

    • @SimonBauer7
      @SimonBauer7 5 місяців тому

      this is a Test and a very old lift, they did that test to exactly prevent this stuff from happening in the future.

  • @badlandskid
    @badlandskid 8 років тому +34

    That lift is as out dated as 240p....

    • @spiddyman0079
      @spiddyman0079 6 років тому

      badlandskid 144 p squad

    • @BluntForceTrauma666
      @BluntForceTrauma666 5 років тому +5

      "That lift is as out dated as 240p...." he says. Well, what else are they supposed to use for a test like this, you dimwit? PLUS that video was made in 1990, OVER 25 YEARS AGO. But, yeah you're right, they shoulda just torn it all down instead of trying to learn something. Narrowminded dickheads like you who pretend to "know it all" make me want to vomit.

    • @cccraigslist
      @cccraigslist 5 років тому +3

      @@BluntForceTrauma666 he's just commenting on how much technology has advanced. No need to get your panties in a bunch :)

  • @bencheevers6693
    @bencheevers6693 2 роки тому

    -Safety-

  • @lianlowenherz7372
    @lianlowenherz7372 8 років тому +2

    anyone knows which year this chairlift was build?

    • @KidGibson
      @KidGibson 7 років тому +4

      Says at the beginning. I'm guessing 1963

  • @IneFox74
    @IneFox74 5 років тому +2

    ski lift 1990 or 2019 changed to Chairlift changed

  • @MrChancebandit
    @MrChancebandit Рік тому

    So silly question .....why does a chair lift have to be so high off the ground ? Could it not be say 4 feet to the bottom of your skis ? Why 20 ?

    • @volvodude101
      @volvodude101 7 місяців тому

      ua-cam.com/video/WmTLCfB44NA/v-deo.html
      Probably safety and liability reasons. But the linked video shows you what it would be like if they were nearly touching the ground.

    • @MrChancebandit
      @MrChancebandit 7 місяців тому +1

      @@volvodude101 that is pretty low lol 😆

  • @tankmaster1018
    @tankmaster1018 10 років тому +2

    This video is fantastic!

  • @xXWillXx
    @xXWillXx 5 років тому +1

    It’s extremely funny!

  • @SolaceEasy
    @SolaceEasy 5 років тому

    EMR for Engineers

  • @bucketblast62
    @bucketblast62 4 роки тому +1

    What happened here.15:41 What happened to the hall rope.🪑

    • @hugofoldvari7195
      @hugofoldvari7195 3 роки тому

      The haul rope snapped because of the incredible heat.

    • @bucketblast62
      @bucketblast62 3 роки тому

      @@hugofoldvari7195 it’s hard to see in this video. Thank you.

    • @bucketblast62
      @bucketblast62 3 роки тому

      Imagine if we were on the lift and the haul rope snapped, or in this rollback.4:50 6:49😣

  • @nimbusregular
    @nimbusregular 2 роки тому

    this happened in real life resently

  • @KingRu-um3vt
    @KingRu-um3vt 3 роки тому

    It was a little boring but I learned from it!

  • @jobaecker9752
    @jobaecker9752 2 роки тому

    Is this the new hi-speed reverse double? ;)

  • @thepsyc_one4245
    @thepsyc_one4245 2 роки тому

    150 horse power. Yet no way a 800 hp Dodge charger could ever move that system. 🤔

    • @michaelcampbell4990
      @michaelcampbell4990 2 роки тому

      Connect the Dodge engine up to the driving wheel with the right gear ratio and you would have one fast chairlift

    • @jeffreysidden1832
      @jeffreysidden1832 2 роки тому

      @@michaelcampbell4990
      Like slathering crisco on the kids slide at a fair!

    • @EATSLEEPDRIVE2002
      @EATSLEEPDRIVE2002 2 роки тому

      I mean through the same gear reduction, yeah it could…

  • @joegibson4796
    @joegibson4796 2 роки тому

    Well i had wood but then it fell over.

  • @dkmorris713
    @dkmorris713 3 роки тому

    Well that a fucking neato

  • @calambria100
    @calambria100 4 роки тому

    I did one extra test for you guys.. a crashtest by fanatic skying. it past the test.

  • @lanovkarj
    @lanovkarj 7 років тому +1

    now 4-CLD

    • @vcummins
      @vcummins 6 років тому

      Autobusák Kuba yep! A poma CLD-4 with dual tensioning apparently. liftblog.com/winter-park-co/

  • @kimjong-un5214
    @kimjong-un5214 5 років тому

    Earthquake

  • @websitesthatneedanem
    @websitesthatneedanem 8 років тому

    How very interesting!

  • @jamesmp5k
    @jamesmp5k 11 років тому

    What. Do you think they were doing it for fun?

  • @bucketblast62
    @bucketblast62 Рік тому

    Here’s a clearer version of this video. But it doesn’t go all the way to the end.ua-cam.com/video/sb8gDtKw0L0/v-deo.html

  • @georgeman-rj8go
    @georgeman-rj8go 4 місяці тому

    What lift was it?

  • @GotScout
    @GotScout 6 років тому +5

    I guess nobody learned from these tests to find a solution before the Georgia accident (today)