Lesson learnt If the chair starts moving super fast backwards just jump the fuck off cause it's better to break your legs than it is to have your entire body bent like a pretzel.
Yes and no,as far as jumping off the chair,it depends on how many feet a person is above the ground 2nd,all the chairlift operator has to do is press the E-BRAKE button in.
Exactly. I doubt they could have gotten much money for the lift, even back in 1990. It was probably going to get scrapped anyway, although they had multiple other Riblets at the time, so I'm sure they kept useable parts as spares.
Except that this exact same thing has happene multiple times and killed dozens of people when they fucked up.. even with modern safety protocol and devicea, when not maintained the shit still can pop off….
@@Z-Ack I think in the last 40 years there have only been 12 deaths relating to ski lifts and not every case was caused by the lift itself. Rollbacks are incredibly rare, especially if the resort is properly maintained. I work as a lift attendant and every one of our lifts are checked multiple times a day to prevent potentially hazardous issues
Some scary tests, but never the less. By the controlled catastrophic scenarios, finding the crutches of the chair system where all hopefully ruled out to further the safety and emergency equipment to prevent such events. Excellent example of amazing engineering (:
@@craigbosko2229 Well there's a video of this very thing happening at a ski lift in Georgia (I think) It's on youtube. Several people get slug off, a few more are in the path of the chairs and get clobbered by them.
@@HKPSG1Shooter it was 100% human error, the emergency braking system was overriden by the operators prior to the rollback. The brakes could have been activated manually during the incident but the staff failed to do so. Ski lifts have extensive safety mesures and equipment, this should never happen by itself
@@austins.3313 The basic principles behind a fixed chair lift will always remain the same unless the laws of physics change. Doppelmayr participated in this test, so that makes your argument invalid.
TheGameShack Yeah I am glad that there at least some Riblets left. Resorts have even started replacing their quad chairs like Squaw Valley's Siberia Express.
Yeah, I think I have heard about that Chair 1. I ski at Squaw Valley, and I remember their old yan double, the Cornice II chair. That lift went right over a giant cliff before you reached the top. Sadly it was torn down in 2013 and I never rode it as it almost never operated but it was a cool chair
Kudoes to the civil engineers that designed the towers, I expected more overdimensioning in the steel elements, welding or underdimensioning of foundation blocks
I'VE WATCHED THIS VIDEO MANY TIMES,1ST TIME AT SUMMIT AT SNOQUALMIE, WASHINGTON STATE,2ND TIME AT STEVENS PASS, WASHINGTON STATE, I'VE SEEN IT AROUND 8-10 TIMES AND THE 1ST TIME WAS IN 1994.BRINGS BACK ALOT OF MEMORIES.
Can't properly test for rollback unless uphill line is loaded! Oh, ok, they loaded the chairs. I guess this lift was to be replaced anyway, got some age on it. I worked chairlifts in Perisher, Australia, late 79's and to this day had not known such things could even happen, never came up in our training.
I worked as a lifty a couple seasons. We had a roll back one time and it whipped a couple people off. I guess a couple people got injured pretty bad. It was only three or four chairs, luckly it was stopped before it got totally out of control.
Is this the same narrator that does the funny "Turbo Encabulator" video? 4:52 Holy, that's multiple fatalities right there and it took those dudes a while to get out of the way of the flying concrete! Also, 1990 seems like a different world to today. It'd be interesting to see what a modern instructional/experimental video looks like. Just clearer with more graphics probably.
It makes me sad they changed the name of this beautiful lift she ran good a little extra info the top terminal was replaced by YAN(lift engineering) around the late 1980s. As it was an awesome lift it’s sad it didn’t move on somewhere else in stead of being absolutely destroyed
If anyone doesn’t understand the incident, Yan was a company that went bankrupt because of an incident where 8 people were killed due to a faulty chairlift/s falling off due to the grip. They shut down all the Yan chairlifts, and destroyed this one.
Riblet made a great lift for many many years. Sadly they sealed their fate by not investing and getting into the high speed detachable area. There is still a 1960s vintage Riblet lift running at Winter Park as of 2023, called Looking Glass. However- her days are numbered. Lots of other old Riblets still in use throughout the USA and Canada.
I don't know if that kind of thing is possible on a detachable, the chairs already detach, although the deceleration/acceleration might have a hard time keeping up, causing some minimal damage.
it is possible but it wouldnt be as bad as the stations tires are driven off the haul rope mostly so the tires would just spin up and then the chairs would just go faster through the station although i dont know if attaching works in reverse.
How about an American Stealth bomber buzzing the Italian alps, cutting a cable car wire with it's tailfin, killing a gondola full of people? Yeah, that actually happened.
"That lift is as out dated as 240p...." he says. Well, what else are they supposed to use for a test like this, you dimwit? PLUS that video was made in 1990, OVER 25 YEARS AGO. But, yeah you're right, they shoulda just torn it all down instead of trying to learn something. Narrowminded dickheads like you who pretend to "know it all" make me want to vomit.
ua-cam.com/video/WmTLCfB44NA/v-deo.html Probably safety and liability reasons. But the linked video shows you what it would be like if they were nearly touching the ground.
These tests toe the line between "productive research" and "screwing around" and I love it
Lesson learnt If the chair starts moving super fast backwards just jump the fuck off cause it's better to break your legs than it is to have your entire body bent like a pretzel.
pretsels dont bend, they crumble. Thats what will happen, you will crumble, So Yeah, Jump the fuck off
Yes and no,as far as jumping off the chair,it depends on how many feet a person is above the ground 2nd,all the chairlift operator has to do is press the E-BRAKE button in.
"the lift was ready to run the next morning"
AFTER THAT?
That's incredible!
This wasn't a waste at all. They learned some very valuable things from these tests that make our current chairlifts that much safer.
Exactly. I doubt they could have gotten much money for the lift, even back in 1990. It was probably going to get scrapped anyway, although they had multiple other Riblets at the time, so I'm sure they kept useable parts as spares.
Except that this exact same thing has happene multiple times and killed dozens of people when they fucked up.. even with modern safety protocol and devicea, when not maintained the shit still can pop off….
@@Z-Ack I think in the last 40 years there have only been 12 deaths relating to ski lifts and not every case was caused by the lift itself. Rollbacks are incredibly rare, especially if the resort is properly maintained. I work as a lift attendant and every one of our lifts are checked multiple times a day to prevent potentially hazardous issues
You know your right but just for fun facts the european countries can decide to have or not have a roll back safety
you mean ghaudri? that was multiple safety systems either not being engaged or failing.@@Z-Ack
Now that’s a fast lift. Even has auto eject for those who don’t know how to get off of a lift.
Lol!
Some Georgian lift operators clearly skipped this video...
No one:
UA-cam: “Wanna see some guys abuse a ski lift?”
Me: “The Fk I do.”
😂
I Saw this video in 2012 when I had a fascinated by Lego chairlifts. This video brings back memories.
nice to see some last tests being done. The new lifts are so much better because of tests like these
Love the workers running for their lives.
Some scary tests, but never the less. By the controlled catastrophic scenarios, finding the crutches of the chair system where all hopefully ruled out to further the safety and emergency equipment to prevent such events. Excellent example of amazing engineering (:
Cant wait to got on this coaster!
Took a lot of abuse to take the old Riblet lift down. Built right, many still in use.
This is the standard test routine which is done every morning.
Uhhh, no?
@@Mainyehc Uhhh, sarcasm?
The rollback was the most frightening one to watch, just imagining being on a lift doing that. 😳
SORRY,I DON'T HAVE A IMAGINATION THAT WILL LET ME IMAGINATE INTO BEING ON A CHAIRLIFT WHILE IT'S RUNNING BACKWARDS.
@@craigbosko2229 Well there's a video of this very thing happening at a ski lift in Georgia (I think) It's on youtube.
Several people get slug off, a few more are in the path of the chairs and get clobbered by them.
@@HKPSG1Shooter it was 100% human error, the emergency braking system was overriden by the operators prior to the rollback. The brakes could have been activated manually during the incident but the staff failed to do so.
Ski lifts have extensive safety mesures and equipment, this should never happen by itself
@@caiwilkie6453 AKA never book a Ski trip to Georgia.......
@@nickmaclachlan5178 Apereantly the guys on the rollback in georgia came back 1 day later
Shows how well Riblets were built... Although its sad to see an old lift go out like that.
It went down fighting. Better than just getting silently dismantled and scrapped.
Sad to see lifts "dying" like that. :( I'm happy though that now, we know more things on ski-lift safety! :D
Alex no Sekai yeah sure
winkyface EX DEE
Apparently, the rollback test was a waste of time:
ua-cam.com/video/BGLTtu-RUvo/v-deo.html
@@JAnx01 Different Lift design, different country, you cannot make this comparison.
@@austins.3313
The basic principles behind a fixed chair lift will always remain the same unless the laws of physics change. Doppelmayr participated in this test, so that makes your argument invalid.
I have worked on lifts and have seen actual problems with real world roll backs and this stuff is scary.
Georgia brought me here LMFAO!
God it's so weird seeing Eskimo as a riblet.
Riblets were really rugged. There are quite a few still in use. Chair 1 at mount Baker was over 60 years old when retired in 2010.( built in 1952)
TheGameShack Yeah I am glad that there at least some Riblets left. Resorts have even started replacing their quad chairs like Squaw Valley's Siberia Express.
Yeah, I think I have heard about that Chair 1.
I ski at Squaw Valley, and I remember their old yan double, the Cornice II chair. That lift went right over a giant cliff before you reached the top. Sadly it was torn down in 2013 and I never rode it as it almost never operated but it was a cool chair
I believe two lifts at Whitewater near Nelson BC are Riblets.
they took down one of the doubles
:(
i think crystal mountain, BC had one but it had a cable come off and injure people
Anyone here from the recent accident with a ski lift?
Nathan Merritt yep
superpilotdude howdy
That was the lift I used to run in the late 70's. LoL that was great! Learned to ski there in 1965 age 9 and still going. Yay Danny Pufpoph my bud!
Great to see how safe these are even in the event of a failure.
They mention Winter Park's technicians and their ability to get the life fixed between tests.
5:20 *the true Express lift*
TheShadowTitan Lol I was on one 10 min Ago
That speed looks like an express.
this must be the old eskimo, now they have a high speed quad
On this episode of "Why tf did youtube recommend me this"
There's a fixed grip chairlift in Chamonix in the French Alps that must be at least 50 years old now. This reminds me of it!
A chairlift in fallback becomes a trebuchet at the bull wheel. You must jump off before you reach it.
5:00, my favorite out of all of them.
Kudoes to the civil engineers that designed the towers, I expected more overdimensioning in the steel elements, welding or underdimensioning of foundation blocks
I remember watching this during lift op training😂
I'VE WATCHED THIS VIDEO MANY TIMES,1ST TIME AT SUMMIT AT SNOQUALMIE, WASHINGTON STATE,2ND TIME AT STEVENS PASS, WASHINGTON STATE, I'VE SEEN IT AROUND 8-10 TIMES AND THE 1ST TIME WAS IN 1994.BRINGS BACK ALOT OF MEMORIES.
ha, this is great, I used to work here xD I've run the Eskimo a few times before, but it's a lot more up to date nowadays!
Yea
when I saw today news from Georgia I reminded this test... worst snowboarder/skier nightmare...
mavver Also here because of the Georgia video... Skii'd all my life and never even knew such a thing was possible. .
These Riblets are built like goddamn tanks! I’m proud that our hill still operates a Riblet triple
The new combo assembly actually come from the tree test so it does not come of the sheaves
"And bent like pretzels".
Can't properly test for rollback unless uphill line is loaded! Oh, ok, they loaded the chairs. I guess this lift was to be replaced anyway, got some age on it. I worked chairlifts in Perisher, Australia, late 79's and to this day had not known such things could even happen, never came up in our training.
After the test, they deemed the equipment to be safe and of so high quality that they repaired and recommissioned it...
:)
Actually the lift was replaced by a triple then again replaced by a quad detachable in the very late 90s
6:59 i just love imagining a guy standing on top of the hill, drove up with his truck and just standing here with a camcorder
Why am I watching this?
Im a green lift operator and this scares me because ours are 70 years old.
3:25 Chair: Wait why are we slowing down? WAIT WHAT IS GOING ON IM GOING IN REVERSE!
Proceeds to get catapulted of the chair 😂
Imagine doing the rollback test today 😼
Yeah. This test would never take place now. In 2020. Still pretty savage video. Lifts are gnarly!!!
I worked as a lifty a couple seasons.
We had a roll back one time and it whipped a couple people off.
I guess a couple people got injured pretty bad.
It was only three or four chairs, luckly it was stopped before it got totally out of control.
Is this the same narrator that does the funny "Turbo Encabulator" video?
4:52 Holy, that's multiple fatalities right there and it took those dudes a while to get out of the way of the flying concrete!
Also, 1990 seems like a different world to today. It'd be interesting to see what a modern instructional/experimental video looks like. Just clearer with more graphics probably.
this sort of reminds me of the old Red Dog lift at squaw valley
That brake failure with the cement bags was a scary site. Many lives would had been lost.
It makes me sad they changed the name of this beautiful lift she ran good a little extra info the top terminal was replaced by YAN(lift engineering) around the late 1980s. As it was an awesome lift it’s sad it didn’t move on somewhere else in stead of being absolutely destroyed
Guys these hard hats will protect against 50 pound flying cinderblocks right?
5:30 "Run away. RUN AWAY!!!"
Right after “Fetchez la vache” 😂
If anyone doesn’t understand the incident, Yan was a company that went bankrupt because of an incident where 8 people were killed due to a faulty chairlift/s falling off due to the grip. They shut down all the Yan chairlifts, and destroyed this one.
This one is a Riblet, as the video tells you.
@@bobharristhebag ik
Riblet made a great lift for many many years. Sadly they sealed their fate by not investing and getting into the high speed detachable area. There is still a 1960s vintage Riblet lift running at Winter Park as of 2023, called Looking Glass. However- her days are numbered. Lots of other old Riblets still in use throughout the USA and Canada.
I have one at my local hill. I normally take the rope tow though if it’s an option unless I’m tired.
4:59 what is that block the chairs were crashing onto?
Wow, just like what happened in Georgia.
iViking bullwheel brake failure... I Think?
A Drone or clucht failure
5m06s tells me what I wanted to know: yes, jump.
When Engineering becomes Ungineering
Good lord! This would be a nightmare if it were to happen...
When the chairs were flying i was picturing people on them LOL!
Apocalypse38 So terrifying!
well stuff like this also happened. the more you know...
If you google georgia chairlift rollback, you can see exactly that
You could tell the future!
ua-cam.com/video/dk_BR77VNJ8/v-deo.html
The Detachable Double 👆
5:03 is extremely funny
6:52 is funny too
@@CombraStudios nobody asked
@@elpersonpl576 life is more than answering questions
10:08 -- made my eyes get huge
What Fun they had!
Mmm smores! Just a perfect fire.
R.I.P.Alter Herr
I am going skiing tomorrow. This will be in my mind lol
Remember, NEVER destruct your chairlift or you will be fired!!!
Right? Just doing this on your own to see what happens is frowned upon by management.
This is brutal!
I'd like to see the do this with a detachable now a days.
I don't know if that kind of thing is possible on a detachable, the chairs already detach, although the deceleration/acceleration might have a hard time keeping up, causing some minimal damage.
it is possible but it wouldnt be as bad as the stations tires are driven off the haul rope mostly so the tires would just spin up and then the chairs would just go faster through the station although i dont know if attaching works in reverse.
the breaking part is funny
Have y’all seen the video of the lift throwing people off?
dam that looks like fun
this video was great!
GOOD EDUCATIONAL VIDEO
Georgia should of saw this coming…
Watched this b4 i did my first rollback test.
So soll es sein.Der Test ist bestanden.RIP alter Lift
How about an American Stealth bomber buzzing the Italian alps, cutting a cable car wire with it's tailfin, killing a gondola full of people? Yeah, that actually happened.
It was not a "stealth bomber;" the B-2 Spirit has no tail. It was an A-6 or EA-6B if I recall. That was terrible.
Sounds right. I think it was wrongly reported back then, or maybe my memory failed.
Yeah. I've heard it was a combination of outdated/incorrect charts and pilot flying too low.
Well... I guess I'm done skiing.
I’ll take the tow rope.
this is a Test and a very old lift, they did that test to exactly prevent this stuff from happening in the future.
That lift is as out dated as 240p....
badlandskid 144 p squad
"That lift is as out dated as 240p...." he says. Well, what else are they supposed to use for a test like this, you dimwit? PLUS that video was made in 1990, OVER 25 YEARS AGO. But, yeah you're right, they shoulda just torn it all down instead of trying to learn something. Narrowminded dickheads like you who pretend to "know it all" make me want to vomit.
@@BluntForceTrauma666 he's just commenting on how much technology has advanced. No need to get your panties in a bunch :)
-Safety-
anyone knows which year this chairlift was build?
Says at the beginning. I'm guessing 1963
ski lift 1990 or 2019 changed to Chairlift changed
So silly question .....why does a chair lift have to be so high off the ground ? Could it not be say 4 feet to the bottom of your skis ? Why 20 ?
ua-cam.com/video/WmTLCfB44NA/v-deo.html
Probably safety and liability reasons. But the linked video shows you what it would be like if they were nearly touching the ground.
@@volvodude101 that is pretty low lol 😆
This video is fantastic!
It’s extremely funny!
EMR for Engineers
What happened here.15:41 What happened to the hall rope.🪑
The haul rope snapped because of the incredible heat.
@@hugofoldvari7195 it’s hard to see in this video. Thank you.
Imagine if we were on the lift and the haul rope snapped, or in this rollback.4:50 6:49😣
this happened in real life resently
It was a little boring but I learned from it!
Is this the new hi-speed reverse double? ;)
150 horse power. Yet no way a 800 hp Dodge charger could ever move that system. 🤔
Connect the Dodge engine up to the driving wheel with the right gear ratio and you would have one fast chairlift
@@michaelcampbell4990
Like slathering crisco on the kids slide at a fair!
I mean through the same gear reduction, yeah it could…
Well i had wood but then it fell over.
Well that a fucking neato
I did one extra test for you guys.. a crashtest by fanatic skying. it past the test.
now 4-CLD
Autobusák Kuba yep! A poma CLD-4 with dual tensioning apparently. liftblog.com/winter-park-co/
Earthquake
How very interesting!
What. Do you think they were doing it for fun?
Here’s a clearer version of this video. But it doesn’t go all the way to the end.ua-cam.com/video/sb8gDtKw0L0/v-deo.html
What lift was it?
I guess nobody learned from these tests to find a solution before the Georgia accident (today)