Anime Shanty_Curse of the Somers
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- Опубліковано 5 вер 2024
- This is another clip movie I did with an anime/shanty crossover. This one was inspired by a true historical event called "The Somers Affair," in which three men were exectuted for attempted mutiny, though the evidence against them was vague. The three men, Philip Spencer, Samual Cromwell, and Elisha Small were hung on December 1, 1842.
Man I’m so glad your channel exists, this song, and the album it was from, was on the tip of the tongue for the longest darn time, but I couldn’t find the title. Then I remembered that you did a video of it a long time ago.
Damn, this is such a Macabre story. The 1842 Somer Affair just sent chills down my spine. No trial?! What happened to "innocent until proven guilty?"
Didnt exist back then.
What the captain said was the law.
That's mostly an American concept. Most countries don't follow that principal in trials.
@@PyroGothNerd I believe this was an American naval vessel this all happened on.
@@PyroGothNerd I think we got "innocent until proven guilty" from the mother country. But to this day, in some westerrn democracies, it is not "trial by jury of one's peers" but "trial by professionals."
Its hard to find a song that gives me shivers. I'm glad you showed it to me.
what a truly fabulous song - brilliantly sung with excellent lyrics.
As far as the historical element goes - as with many folk songs and tales - there may be no agreement to be found - but important that even the disagreement is maintained and remembered.
This is a definite song for the sessions - I can really hear the whole pub in harmony on that chorus!
Many thanks to those who have posted the lyrics - that has saved me a couple of hours work.
Richard
They were actually executed based on false assumptions. The Captain was losing favor with the crew and young Philip Spencer was gaining it. Hence, the captain feared that Spencer might try to commit mutiny. Ergo, he had Spencer and his two conspirators hung based on this loose information.
The captain called there names and three good men where slain no trial no questions here only the horror the grief and the fear
Spencer was 19 when he was hanged, two weeks before the USS Somer came to port. The evidence wasn't vague, they found papers with their plans, all written in code. However, Spencer liked adventure; most likely, he was a kid playing pirate, just like Tom Sawyer and Huck Finn. They probably wouldn't have killed anyone, anymore than Huck and Tom would kill each other's families if they told about their games. You'd think they could wait 14 days for a proper trial...
He was also vary unpoular with the officers, and evidence could have been planted, especally as the paper didn't perfectly match what they knew or suspected.
this is one of the saddest things to happen on a ship. imagine that if you were there and i think the crew were a lot more angrier with the captian and first mate.
How is it sad? Treason is a very serious offense that deserves death and mutiny is a form of treason and must be treated as such, the investigation and subsequent exections were in compliance with the law and were carried out humanly and in a military manner.
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Someone committing a crime that results in their death isn't sad to you?
Xezlec No, not at all, they knew the consequences well before they even thought of conspiring to commit mutiny and I find it hard to feel sad for someone who makes an informed decision that ends up harming them and even more so when they intended to harm the crew.
What if it were someone you cared about? You wouldn't be the least bit sad that person threw away their life?
Xezlec No, I would just be happy no one else had to get hurt.
How awful they had to go through that. You conveyed what happened really well.
It was because of this very event that the Naval Academy at Annapolis was founded; before that, "students" like Spencer would have been "apprentices."
"Come listen, all you sailors bold
Come listen onto me
I'll sing you of a cruel death
A bloody tragedy
Come listen landsmen one and all
I'll make you bless your lucky stars
You've never gone to sea.
It was the Somers, graceful, swift
As trim a little brig
As e'er was modeled by shipwright
Or sailor helped to rig
The grating's rigged, the hangman's whip
Dangles from the main yardarm
The wondering crew gazed on the sight
With terror and alarm.
The song only tells one side. Evidence was sketchy, but Small and Cromwell had served on slavers before, and the Captain acted to prevent what he saw as incipient mutiny. Imprisoning the three men and bringing them back to port for trial would not have been easy.
Did anyone else get tear filled eyes?😫😫😰
I listened to lots of these today while reading Moby Dick. Try it sometime, it really adds to the mood.
Actually, I didn't download this song. It was from a CD of mine called "Curse of the Somers."
@Rikki0
it was Philip Spencer. he had a reputation of, to put in modern terms, talking trash about the navy and his captain. the captain and his officers found some letters in Greek containing a list of names tied to the mutiny-as you mentioned in another comment.
it did however soil the captain's reputation-Alexander Mckenzie, though he was acquitted.
It also led to the creation of the Annapolis Naval Academy.
to be completely honest the evidence wasn't completely vague of these men's guilt, unless you buy the notion that they where "playing a game" about taking a warship and starting a career of piracy
Still the captain was less than two weeks from shore, and though he was cleared by the court-martial he was not commended following the court-martialed. This is significant because it was customary at the time for officers cleared in a court-martial to be commended. The general perception was that McKenzie was a murderer who had used the alleged mutiny to get ride of a few unwanted sailors.
Blixer, bull. They deserved to be hanged.
There was a recent article about his incident that was in a military history magazine I believe it was Military History Illustrated.
@@blixer8384Two weeks is still a long time, especially when there is no means of long distance communication.
Wow....this is so wonderful, yet at the same time it makes my stomach churn. It's a moving piece. Good job.
Is there any way I can find the credit song Burial At Sea? I really would love to have it to listen to but can I find it anywhere.
Great song, and (as usual) Awesome artwork, Lord Drako, some of the best art you draw
Please, don't stop!
-lowers my tri corner hat- that is the price for mutiny, but it still...gets me every time, every time i hear this song i cry.
You know, you really have a knack for the tragic and bleak...I like it.
I listen to this song everyday now... thankies for it
This video has a lot of feeling about a controversial case in U.S. Navy history. Without making any historical judgements you show the shipboard drama, and the confusion and naval superstition associated with the events.
This is why pirate crews usually slayed the captains of ships they raided, unless the captain's crew begged for his life and assured the pirates he was a good man.
Many members of pirate crews joined to escape conditions like these.
You get more emotion with the song in it too...*sniff and wipes eyes*
@Laine108 It's not a problem, friend. It's oft times quite hard to get feelings and emotions across on the internet. Their is no inflection in the voice or facial features to observe. And I understand what you mean about people wanting to believe a certain way. We tend to let our perceptions become our realities. I love history and I'll take the bad with the good. I just hate to see it being rewritten. Thanks for your courteous reply.
They were not " three good men." So you can stop your crying for them. This is a song written long after the event. Their plan was murder and piracy and it was found written in Spencer's hand in his own journal, in his own belongings. He was was turned in by one of the men he tried to recruit ( whom he had listed as " might join " ).
Lyrics:
Come listen all you sailors bold,
come listen unto me.
I'll sing you of a cruel cruel deed,
a bloody tragedy.
Come listen landsmen one and all,
come listen unto me.
I'll make you bless your lucky stars,
you've never gone to sea.
It was the Somers graceful swift,
a stream a little brig.
As e' er was modeled by shipwright
or sailor helped to rig.
The grating's rigged the hangsman's whip, dangles from main yardarm.
The wondering crew gaze on the sight
with terror and alarm.
CHORUS:
For the Captain called their names
and three good men were slain.
No trail, no questions here,
only the horror, the grief and fear.
Alas the meaning's soon too clear,
the noose is round the neck
of three poor men, but men as brave as walked the Somers deck.
On one side Small and Cromwell stand,
bold men and sailors true.
They quail not though the boldest might
with such a death in view.
Starboard young foolish Spencer stands,
the tears are in his eye.
What feelings of deep agony
must through his bosom fly.
Look, look your last, for hark,
a gun sends forth its smoky breath.
Whip instantly upon the word,
their eyes are sealed in death.
CHORUS:
For the Captain called their names
and three good men were slain.
No trail, no questions here,
only the horror, the grief and fear.
And sad and slow our mess mates dead,
we launched into the waves.
And watched them sink 'mid ocean's moans,
deep in their watery graves.
Strange sounds will flout upon the air,
and in the blast will speak.
And round the main yardarm,
three ghosts will play and dance and shriek.
And ill luck and misfortune dire
will follow in thy wake.
'Til the ghastly three, where lie their bones
thy last dark haven make.
Sheet home every cursed spar,
set every rag on sail.
And leave here to the ocean ghouls
and demons of the the gale.
CHORUS:
For the Captain called their names
and three good men were slain.
No trail, no questions here,
only the horror, the grief and fear.
Only the horror, the grief and fear.
philip spencer was the son of the secretary of war's son and he was only 17
this song always gives me the chills whenever i listen or watch it....sutch a cruel act back then can easly be repeated today it scares me T-T
Interesting bit of trivia, the rhythm and some of the words of this song, especially the final verse, are based on the poem "Old Ironsides" by Oliver Wendell Holmes.
omg! your right. i read the documents!
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but my question is that they were going to do mutiny BUT i still think they should have gotten a trial and with atrial they still probablt were not going to get death
/cry.
poor ed!
mind you, the fact that this actually happened only serves to make it sadder. awesome job!
AMAZING! wonderfull work. the art is beautifull the song wonderous. This is perfect. I tried to look up the song or the lyrics or something but i can't find it T_T. oh well i will just continue to look. how long did it take you to make this? it looks like it took a lot of time.
"And tree good men was slain. No trail, no questing. Only the horror, grief and fear."
is it only i thats think this is sad?
Beautiful and sad. I love your art work as well
Also, there was no history of harsh treatment of the crew by the officers to cause such a thing. Spencer had been known to be a troublemaker and a bully before he enlisted. He was a known thug. The Captain acted in the best interest of his crew. The evidence of the muntiny attempt was indisputable.
And, yes. I know the song makes them sound like sympathetic characters who were unjustly executed. But it's just a song written by a songwriter. Please read the accounts before you form a judgement.
Greate song M8 and nice vid. THX
Fictive story or not, innocent or guilty, this video is sad inoff to get me cry inside first time i saw it. Now I have seen it so many times that i don't cry any longer.
This made me cry so much. Those poor guys! :(
BigWill first, thanks for actually checking the documents. Most people don't really want to know the truth, they just want to argue. Second, I agree it would have been nice if they had had a proper trial, but with the evidence against them there is little doubt they would still have been found guilty, and the standard penalty for mutiny in those days was hanging. A Captain's Mast and executuion at sea was legal then, too. Also he was still ten days from home and feared for his crew's lives.
Really a sad story and song but a beautifull video. Very good!
me 2. i actually cried when i say this!
it was so depressing and sad!
i really admire this!
Perfect as always, nice drawings as well
By any chance do you have the lyrics or the poem on hand? I've always wanted to know the exact words and google isnt helpful
I love this video by the way, so beautiful and well done!
*crying* This is the best and sad video, I've ever seen!
regardless of the historical accuracy, it's a beautiful song
this is beautiful and sad at the same time..... hope u can make a drunken sailor clip too!
He didn't actually have a brig. And he had no idea how many of the crew had been persuaded to join him. After he had detained him there was one failed attempt to free him, which was pushed back at gunpoint by the officers. Had that attempt been successful the Officers and most of the crew would have been murdered. He could not risk another attempt. His actions were exonerated by the Navy. Only the public demonized him, but they did not have the documents.
@Rikki0 Check "The Somers Affair" in the Naval Archives. There was no doubt of their guilt, and they received a proper "Mast". The leader ( sorry, can't remember his name ), had been a known scoundrel and troublemaker. Sorry folks, but it's real history and that's the way it was. They were turned into heroes by minstrels and dime novelists of the period.
-le sob- Poor Al. ;---; If I watch his anymore, I swear, I'll cry.
Love your works, man :)
This video is, quite simply put, A-MAZ-ING.
*i stand in the shadows in silence and fear as i salute to the men and pray safe passage to the next life*
i like your vids mate
Oh, gosh. I started crying before they even showed the three. Why do I watch this? Self torture. *sob* Riku! Ed! Athrun! How horrible to kknkow that this happened in real life. I love your artwork and stories anyway, man.
So who wrote ye song, and who it the person who sings it now, if it be a different person?
It's easiest if you put it in the description. Is this "Victory Sings At Sea"? That's the only name in the credits that I recognize as a group, although I don't know what "American Sea Shanties" is supposed to mean, unless you're crediting American Sea Shanties in general?
the point, though, is that there *was* no mutiny. Or there may or may not have been, but there's no proof. The point is that they could have been completely innocent, but the captain decided that, for whatever, reason, they deserved it, and that's all it took, just his word.
a lesson to be learned by all.
I need to find this CD somewhere....
Sasuke: Captain...are you sure this is right?
Vegeta: Yes I am Mr. Uchiha..*has a somber look* Yes.....*looks at the 3 men a bit unsure*
luv it sooo sad!!!!!!!
thanks for sharing !!!
The artist put the lyrics to the song with the images they made on DeviantArt(dot)com.
Their profile name is: LordCavendish
It would be easier to go to the DevaintArt website, and just search for (and click on the one without numbers, because that's the first image, 9 total): The Somers' Curse
However, since a lot of people are too lazy to look at someone's hard work on another site, I will post the lyrics here.
thanks
^_^
i checked out the documents because I love history! history is so awesome! i get A's in it and I don't get bored. It's actually fun for me! Also, I am not a cruel person so even though they were going to be guilty anyway, it would be more civilized to have a trial BUT also the captain was alittle paranoied for throwing those other people in jail because they were making loud noise while doing their job.
your art work is great but I can't help but wonder where you found this song?
R.I.P men R.I.P
God, I love this song. So haunting. Been teaching myself to sing it from this video. Your illustrations are perfect. Unconventional, yes, but using the overexagerated style of anime to fully evoke the power of the song. Not, perhaps, entirely accurate, but that's not the point. Moving all the same, & that IS the point. Keep it up.
~MorganBonny
mate would love for you to do one with the song spanish ladies
please, who sings this song ??
Anyone else got chills?
+Nathan Harris They were plotting a mutiny
likesmilitaryhistory Alan Moore Think here for a second,is it really that black and white?Are we,through aid of historical accounts,actually 100 percent sure of one side,or the other.Is the guilty charge that clear?Or even valid?
@Laine108 In the first place, I was not battling with people because I wanted to be right. The video indicates that these were innocent men who were unjustly treated and I was simply trying to set the record straight. And why would Wales set him up? There was no history of ill will between him and Spencer. The captain was not wrong in doing this. He had no proper brig and if the mutineers managed to free Spencer and the mutiny was a success the results would have been dire. Also...
Who ever drew these pics are really good at it. I would love to learn from them or her or him.
o-omg. . . *crying*
It was beautiful..the only thing that bothered me was ed.. v.v;; in FMA ed is young..so to think of him, a kid, and to see him cry like that i almost didn't finish it..it was so painful and beautiful i had to finish
thats how you see it, they don't hang people without a reason, its their way of living and as someone want to judge about it try first to learn why they do it.
I've read all the accounts. The evidence against them was insurmountable. No other verdict could have been given. Even in a long drawn out court on land. And the Captain did not have that luxury. He had to stop a mutiny and the murder of most of his crew. He did what he had to do. They were not " three good men ". Read the accounts. I have.
Where can I find the lyrics to this? I couldn't google it. All I could get was the wikipedia story behind the song.
@twodogshellbound He never said they were GUILTY of conspiring to commit mutiny. He said that's what they were hung for. Those were the charges.
I don't really recall the actual ages of Cromwell and Small, but they may have been around the same age. Perhaps a little older.
I wish I could find the album this is on.
know you got me listening to them and humming them
ED!!!! NO!!!! T_T
=,( so sad, poor al.
i cried when i say it DA. but i cried more when i saw this one.
thanks again for another excellent upload-but-maybe someone can tell me the details of this 'somers affair'? I've not heard of it before.
4:07, is that Ed right next to Dora? On the left?
Tried looking for lyrics to this song, couldn't find any
You too?
Correction: Were rumored to have served on slavers.
Philip Spencer was the son of the secretary of war i wounder how the captian didnt get punished?
what is the name of the singer? can i buy her cd???
@MasterRavager Where can I find the lyrics for this?
The only ship in the US Navy to ever have a mutiny....also the only ship without a detachment of US Marines...
To this day, we don't know if it was a real plan to commit mutiny or just a prank.
does anyone know who it is performing this?
@ForestGrizzly they were hung for conspireing to comit mutiny
@Rikki0 Aye, just like Santy Anna won the battle of Molino del Rey ;)
Who is the artist?
cried my ass out ˘ ' ˘
@Laine108 I viewed your first post as a reasonable debate on the issue and was prepared to continue in the same vein. Right up to the point where you said I was getting on your nerves for stating my point of view ( which was actually stating the recorded facts ) while you were stating your own point of view which one must assume is unassailable.