Wrong Way Out #3 - Crazy Wheels!
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- Опубліковано 25 лис 2024
- With Capac, TFE and w4sted we will attempt to escape from this rock with both hands tied behind our backs! No thrusters, no control seats and definitely no idea where I am :P
The full playlist can be found here: • Wrong Way Out or for a quick catch up, see the teasers here: • Wrong Way Out Teasers
You can find the others at:
/ capacamaru
/ w4stedspace
/ thefinalevent97
You can catch me live on other days over at / splitsie or if the timezones don't work out head over to / flipsie to catch the vods
A huge thank you to the 'NPCs' and everyone who helped out making mods, builds and everything else for this series, Nev, gruzzob, Eisen, Frosty, Jexsam, Arstraea and more :)
w4stedbot report, ep3:
sillyness - 91%
effectiveness - 88.5%
capacness - 32%
explosions - 4/10
Switch 720 Kick Flips - 3
Trolling - 😇
Progress solid, needs more trick variety, and a raise in capac levels. Explosions also need work.
- w4573-d
That's 2 from 2 with the trolling, or are you counting today as a triple? 🤔😂
Wasted, you must make it faster, so next time you can just run away with the Rover.
That new wheel configuration really wants a gatling turret 'hubcap' at the end of the axle spoke.
Wasted, please tell us you have the kickflip clip. I need to see that from your perspective.
@@LugborG www.twitch.tv/w4stedspace/clip/SteamyMiniatureHedgehogAMPEnergyCherry-HC2Mujj-AD5C2S97 as requested :)
I've been optimistic for this new Wrong Way series since Ep1, it's been showing a lot of promise, but today's episode has well and truly put it over the top... the banter, shenanigans and outrageous engineering is everything I hoped for and more... Bravo!
Thanks so much, today felt so good on those fronts that I'm glad it carried across well :)
that rover is terrifyingly awesome as it moves through the trees. Destroying everything it its path, be it trees, grids, people on the ground, or the fools who think they can control its might. Praise Clang.
Lol it worked out so much better than I hoped 😂
I love watching the way the wheels aren't synced up so it rolls like a ship at sea or an animal.
its nice but needs more wheels
lol, I just watched the "add wheel, flippy flippy, w4stedspace unalive", several times, as it was an awesome start to the episode. 😂
Lol 😂
Capac:ism of the day
We attack from the east at sunrise so that they are blinded by our visage.
but it must be done commando style ... and that is why that phrase is rarely uttered in polite company.
This was exactly what I needed to distract me from the US election. Thanks so much for one of the best episodes ever!
Thanks so much, very happy to be able to provide a few hours distraction from that 🙂
that attaching the wheel with grabby hands was one of the funniest things i saw in days. i laughed way too hard. thank you!
Lol it felt like Capac and I were housemates again with how ridiculous that was 😂
Capac had a good idea for lowering the conveyor access that you may have dismissed as a capacism: 'A sensor that detects gunfire'.
There's a thing like that, the target dummy, and that's a fantastic idea since you're all almost always carrying personal arms.
Legitimately did not know it worked like that, interesting :) ty!
Except all the enemy has to do to immobilise the rover is fire some shots nearby.. 🤔
Frankly, when you were talking about using Rotors for the wheels, I thought you would put A wheel on a rotor without the suspension. Never in my wildest dreams would I have expected this kind of insane contraption of a wheel made out of perpendicular wheels with suspensions.
And I absolutely love it!
TBF I think putting wheels on rotors would legitimately work and would be easier to control, however it wouldn't look NEARLY as ridiculous as the contraption Splitsie made.
Next they should use rotors and sensors and grabby hands to steer the rig with levers!
Nope, standard wheels on rotors only works for about 10m then the wheel explodes. The wheel blocks don't have proper friction and are damaged by voxels. The suspension mounted wheels have proper friction and are completely unharmed no matter how hard they hit voxel 🙂
So it wasn't just stupid looking, it was stupid looking and clever (maybe) 😂
@@Splitsie "If it looks stupid, but it works, it is not stupid"
And with your reasons given it's not stupid even more, but actually necessary and clever xD
Good job!
Though I agree that the rover now looks like a mechanical boss that you have to fight against in games... like I can totally imagine that being a big boss in NieR:Automata xD
To P or not to P.
That is the question.
Wasteds comeback to give it the beans was priceless.
It’s the ddr car, you don’t just give it the beans.
In this episode of Wrong Way Out, Capac's Rover gets attacked by Sir Isaac Newton, the deadliest SOB in Space Engineers.
The fact that this ridiculous Rover is the most well equipped to handle the terrain of this series is awesome.
This series started out great and still keeps improving, top notch stuff from all involved!
Capac and Splitsie for Voice work in Video games 2025!!! A vote everyone can believe in!
It was funny I actually joined the live stream at that point where the rover flipped, pretty much at the point of that clip you showed.
Ok that's one of the craziest vehicles I've seen on SE. And it seems to work! Nice job.
lol Thanks :D
the fact you pulled a Flipsie 5 minutes into the episode is rather impressive
Lol 😂
The timing is what did it for me. Lol
I unfortunately missed episode 2 as I am working the local elections in my corner of the United States. Looking forward to the VOD, to shenanigans and Capacisms, and of course the inevitable CLANG sacrifice on dedicated server.
CLANG is love. CLANG is life. All hail CLANG.
I would die laughing to see a full Japanese style pagoda mast on that coming through the trees with Wasted desperately dancing (and hanging on) on the top.
Oh man. Oh man. The sight of that rover rumbling through the trees
I swear the timing of Splitise's comment about the rotor forces ability to flip the rover makes it really hard to believe this somehow happened naturally and without preparation 😂 Splitsie's got the real talent here
I wish I could claim that 😂
Capacs rover giving strong little tikes energy
Splitsie, one improvement that would be amazing would be to make a small grid control room with rotors and sensors where you can use arms on the hinges and sensors detecting subgrids only to make the rover Lever operated. Really would go with the tank vibes lMO. Loving the series!
This wheel design reminds me of the machine I used to get an industrial freezer up several flights of stairs.
lol yep I can see that with those sorts of stair climbers :D
the movement of the rover after the wheel change reminds me of a remote controlled car from early 80's called The Animal where claws would come out of the wheels to help the vehicle get over objects
I can totally see that 🤔
That was not what i expected when the wheel set up was changing 😆
That is one very bumpy ride! Wonder how it would go escaping gunfire? Maybe it would distract them with amazement at how it moves lol
with the slightly de-synced wheels it really feels like some sort of animal walking. It even gallops at speed!
lol so true :D
ah yes, the biblically accurate wheels
if you ever feel like your control schemes aren't convoluted enough, you can try making a somewhat large small grid control station with grabby hands controls and have someone in there going like the engineer in Polar Express
I hope to make something like that, but I plan to make the simpler options first - basically, get us moving, then I have more time to work on the fiddly things 🙂
@Splitsie Thinking about it again, ironically a lever setup would be simpler control-wise in current state of things than the button setup, as it'd just be two levers to control speed of each side of wheels.
Bigger challenge would be having a physical system that both is hand-usable and doesn't bounce out of position with the bumpyness of the rover I reckon.
Capac banging that wheel so it fits in its welding spot was just 🤣🤣🤣
Loving this new series for the banter, the challenges and the crew (for the most part, TFE is bothering me this time around but in AA he's just ok)
Good luck with your quest splitsie! 👍👍
all the added difficulty but Splitsie has yet to face the ultimate challenge, the one thing that truly frightens him... A 1st person only game.
Lol 😄
And the Baby Crab Juice still lives, despite Spitsie's best effort! I adore that silly little rover and will be devastated when it finally does leave us for the great scrapyard in the sky... So... In anticiation of that, could you add a broken down version to your mod?
You all were great as always, look forwards to more crazy, impossible (or should that be implausable?) Builds 😂😂😂
Dunno if chat did fill u in. Mechanum Wheels are a real lyfe thing, commonly used in FIRST robotics competitions. They, when counterrotated as a pair, allow for perpendicular movement.
Between the Clang rover jump in this stream and the cylinder blammo in the Stationeers Venus series, you appear to have a knack for tempting fate. Don't ever change, that unexpected comedic timing is part of the charm of both channels.
And Capac's pizza-wrapped hot dog sounds very similar to my diet as of late-- there's a local bakery that sells hot dog rolls that are _amazing._
I genuinely don't know how I do it, so hopefully I never accidentally stop 😂
The rover in Damnation Alley had 3 wheels in a triangular arrangement around a rotor for each wheel position; it allowed for easier traversal of rough terrain (because you could rotate the block to push over an obstacle), and allowed for easier replacement of a flat/shredded tire (I don't remember if they were canonically solid tires or inflated) by rotating it to the top position, allowing you to replace it without having to raise the whole vehicle.
That big Rover definetly needs a sticker, Deutsche Post AG
That is an absolute monstrosity and it's utterly glorious.
What an awesome creation. Exactly the kind of thing I would expect.
I was just wondering is a bumper on a hinge would solve the invisible tree problem? It will take out the visible trees for sure and cheaper than a row of grinders (power wise too).
thanks for a most enjoyable 4 plus hours of entertainment
Honestly I'm not sure any more, prior to the update that changed the trees I would have said yes, for sure. But with the changes they made I really don't know - I think I'll try to plan around having a bumper when I start redesigning it next time :)
That thing is ridiculous and I love it.
This is a very human design
That has to be the most Australian truck ever. But! It needs spinning rims!
Dance Dance Rover Solution! 😂
You can merge a subgrid of a subgrid back into your main grid if you want a secure drill arm. I.e. hinge, arm, hinge arm with merge block and drill. Merge back after use.
Also: 4 wheel drive for more turning.
And now Locomotion is stuck in my head after 30 years. Thanks.
I guess we now call these Splitsie-wheels.
The RBLF no longer trusts the Splitsie to cook pancakes. He’ll most likely flip the whole frying pan if not the whole stove when trying to flip the pancakes…
Dangerous, Dangerous Splitsie…
😂😂😂😂😂
Hey, I'm a great cook! I mean sure, replacing a whole oven can be pricey, but just think of how good everything tastes! :P
Damnation Alley was a novel about a group trying to cross a post-apocalyptic North America that is plagued by freak storms and giant insects, using specialized vehicles. It was made into a movie in the 70's starring George Peppard (Hannibal from A-Team) and Jan Michael Vincent (Stringfellow Hawk in Airwolf).
I want to see a tower in the middle of a large grid. The top of the tower rotate with the rover commands.
Turn the wheel to the right -> turn tower 45° right. Reverse -> tower rotates 180°
I’ll go ahead and build that for myself 😂
On the topic of "P"; There is a mod called "Make P great again", that does indeed fix connectors to default to not use for parking.
Re-welcing the wheel assembly was pure genius because Capac used the inertia to slam the parts close enough to weld.
You seem to have created a giant yellow bigfoot hilux. Excellent
Imagine if the trees didn't depawn and you just see an endless trail of knocked down trees 😂
@2:59 I think that was the sound of Splitsies head exploding with frustration at TFE :D
Should totally put automatic turrets in the centre of the wheels
Imagine trying to control it as it spins 🤢😂
Biblically accurate rover
The name for the big grid should be the wood chipper or mulcher 🤔
After today's efforts especially 😂
@@SplitsieI also love how it seemed to gain conscience for the first time in its life and run away freely lmao
May I suggest "Jaundiced Bronco"
Anon Nopleb
A Capac is never late. He always arrives when he means to.
He's always late, it's just that's also intentional 🤔
After last week's episode you all should make camera/spotlight balls with a parachute or 2 and a remote control that is launched from a klang cannon (if that's a thing) so you can scout while it drifts down.
Yay my grabby hands with a steering wheel idea hahhahahaha. I quessed it
Also the front left wheel u forgot to copy settings on one I'm only half way thru so dnt know if u fixed that . U did 3 out of 4
Wasted seeing more people than there should be sounds like that Rick and Morty ep with the aliens multiplying and creating happy memories.
Also Splitsie at 2:32:03 you did see one medical component! You weren't imagining it! It just disappeared after you transferred it from the small rover to your inventory.
Hmm... I wonder if one of the other guys grabbed it
I cant believe the big rover did three clang induced backflips and stuck the landing near perfectly (aside from mangling the small golfcart).... you damn lucky the tree was there to knock out exactly und exactly the one block behind the wheel that caused the phantom forces.... 💀
The RBLF would make a sound board of the Splitsie praising Red Batteries but it would mean scouring thousands of hours of him talking his nonsense to find the necessary clips. To that end, the RBLF will continue to pester him about the Superiority of Red Batteries and cheering on the things that kill him. 😂😂😂😂😂
28:10~28:40 's:
STICKBUG DANCING!!!
Man it's starting to get painful listening to splitsie become a bullying angry hysterical teenage girl every time TFE asks about literally anything
Also, finally a new wrong way series! Yay
An idea: a walking mech with two sets of sensors in the cabin that detect movement-left-right / forward-backward. Each set of sensors triggers the movement of one leg, creating a Pacific Rim-style control that requires precise coordination between two pilots. (-:
I'm not sure we'd last more than a minute trying to coordinate :D
@@Splitsie Come on, I trust you, this will be spectacular! (-;
Solitsie get some spotlights on those steering blocks for aiming where you're driving
Build up and over the “wheels” when you enlarge this monstrosity. That’s prime solar panel location. It would also help in saving from completely rolling over maybe?
Dead man's switch! Safety first....
LOL I can not stop laughing but that is COOL. No it is awesome.
Lol 😂
I want to see the path destruction that that Abomination created through the trees
@Splitsie - Perfect Capac sound bite for your sound board at time stamp 1:51:09 "The Whole Hotdog".
One problem I suspect with Capacs skateboard trailers is the front axle when towing. It looked as if it was down and had spring tension which results in a pivot point that can easily lift the rear of the truck and result in a jacknife as has happened several times.
Maybe try pulling them up when moving it as a trailer.
Oh yeah, you're almost certainly right. I put them to zero friction but forgot to get them out of the way as well - thanks :)
@@Splitsie You are welcome.
As amusing as some of the chaos is, the solutions you and the others come up with are the real treats, with their very own brand of controlled chaos.
really great episode again!
when you were digging up the silicon there was also nickel and magnesium there
maybe an idea to go back when you go live again
@ 3:45:42 there you see it
This is a random thought after having started the scrapyard vids. Don't know if any of you know/would like ostranauts. Not necessarily for streaming/videos, but might be something some of you might enjoy.
The large rover is magnificent. It is every bit of functioning jank that I love and hoped for with this series. I look forward to seeing what else y'all come up with!
Also what is the significance of that pink? According to my research, 313 100 100 is not Pantone 219C, which is 218 24 132
It's the pink that w4sted and Shack used for many years to denote things that are to be removed by the Build and Repair mod, so basically it's old SE creator lore :P
Is this the newest and fastest record? Accident happens 4:33 into stream
🤣🤣🤣
I'm sorry i have to rewatch that part multiple time
It would be _amazing_ if SE's motion system let you build a suspension out of pistons and hinges/rotors. It would probably need some kind of a ball joint to really work like a modern suspension, as well as springs to "force" the wheels on the ground.
You can somewhat approximate it with hinges or rotors, but with pistons being non compressible by outside force they're sadly not an option as they'd be super handy if the could work
If you need suspension, the obvious choice are pistons. I mean they Already 'look' like ones. lol.
Seriously. Pistons compress when the proper pressure is applied AND you can select how much pressure it pushes back at.. Somewhere in all of that there is a happy bouncy medium (or soft, or even hard depending on your personal choice) ... if nothing else works, then you can script it.
I'd wager a quartet of hinges, mimicking a real-world double-wishbone suspension, would actually work better (ie two hinges connected in series, with some blocks between for spacing, and then the exact same thing duplicated below it to ensure the side axes remain aligned). You can set a force and rotation rate for the hinges to tune both the vertical force and the spring speed, and the parallelogram configuration of the hinges guarantees that drive wheel remains vertical while still allowing it to travel up and down relative to the rover body.
Basically, like this: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Double_wishbone_suspension#/media/File:Double_wishbone_Suspension.gif
Pistons don't really compress, they kinda bend and not in a way that's useful for suspension
@@Splitsie Ah Have U tried setting the pistons force value to a very low value? I say this because I have. I have used them for magnetic anchors setting the value to very low (I mean VERY low) and then extending it - it basically extends under its own weight - will make it hit the ground and then stop, even tho it is still commanded to extend. The purpose of this was to stop it from lifting the vehicle. I would then reverse it so its pulling back up. it would not because its now locked to the ground and not powerful enough to do anything but go into tension. but again the value was so low it would not pull the vehicle down, but it did lock it in place nicely, then just turning off the mag-grab plate would release it to go back up.
I said all that to say this. when I had it locked, if something else caused the vehicle to go up or down, the piston cylinder would comply with that motion even tho it was on and in an extending or retracting mode *note while the vehicle was still - it did neither. in other words the piston would extend or contract to match the distance from the vehicle to the ground. even tho it was told to extend or retract. I suspect having the strength level slightly higher (and maybe needing two pistons - one pushing and the other retracting might be required for suspension, i dont have access to SE right now so cant do my own experiments)
I understand what you are talking about bending, but I am talking about forces much much a fraction of those required to do what you mentioned.
I suspect there is a happy value where the piston offer 'resistance to movement' but be unable to move on its own because its strength is not high enough for that. On top of which its length limit value would be very handy in suspension as well
Nope, they're non compressible by outside force, that's why any custom suspension has to be built with rotors or hinges
since the -innocent victims of your ambushes- *'bad guys'* seem to want to rescue their rovers, when u strip one you should leave only a functioning antenna on a small battery, lol
A sound block with one of Capac's truisms on repeat would be a plus
Hmm 🤔
You should make a ramp for the large rover that lowers on a sensor for friendlies in proximity only.
Oh my. I would love to see someone put a rotor with a small grid head, an put a cockpit on that. BUT set the rotor to zero braking force, and no limits so it spins freely. Try and control it with *that*
Ah shit i missed the stream, Thank god for a 4 hour episode!
It's the Great Old One of Rovers
will there be a tutorial on making these wheels on a rover? Great fun watching you guys as always
28:00 - get stickbugged lol
31:35 - soundboard worthy?
1:06:30 - he finally welds the axel, that was an accident waiting to happen
1:14:16 - k, wait why cant wasted see the messages?
1:22:35 - wasteds soundboard worthy moment
1:23:25 - aaand capacs soundboard moment, also first appearance
after searching for what kylie and locomotion means i got a nostalgic earworm, thanks
1:54:38 - i was just as confused as capac for a second
1:56:15 - what was capac talking about? where was your voice used? (deadly salvage? i remember that, but its on imdb? guess anyone can submit their work)
2:19:00 - just for the record, splitsie shot first, they where having a nice camping trip, shame on you
2:28:55 - F
2:40:00 and thats it for today, im too sleepy to continue, had to rewind since im yawning too often and cant hear anythnig during it, will update this post tomorrow
i am back
2:43:00 - "i pressed the P and i liked it"
2:47:00 - remember to P safe, everybody
My idea:
a V shaped front with a single grinder in the middle might work as a more cost effective invisitree solution, basically funneling the trees into the grinders, instead of a full row of grinders, but it seems that on full speed it can handle most of them
3:46:45 - i was just thinking how those two where bickering like children, and then splitsie plays in on the bit (is that how you say it? you know what i mean)
pantone 448c is brown actually, the ugliest brown, apparently, but i dont think so
4:01:00 - incredible
yeah a sensor detecting players in the cockpit would be useful without a roof
not sure if i like this posting style, for next time i will think of something else
TFE: Toilet Fear Event
I wish the series would run on a Saturday so I could watch it on Sunday or when you stream it. :)
Yeah, the scheduling with Capac's work is a bit of a challenge sometimes (also getting him to even wake up) 🤔
@@Splitsie
Maybe the sound of the all mighty Clang will wake him up?
My prediction for the next one: wrong way in, the group must use a rover that's controlled by lega like a giant titan while drilling thru a planet to get into space or drilling thru mountains lol
Damnation alley is an old movie made at the same time as the original Star wars, the rover in question used a 3 wheel on a rotor system, looked cool.
Did you know that George Lucas constantly dipped into the budget for damnation alley to fund extra goodies for Star wars...
Was a kid when it was on. Thought the rover was cool, rotating the wheel assembly on the fly. Can remember when it needed repairs, the guy said he could use parts from a big rig or any large truck. The Lucas thing explains a lot.
capac in bed is him dreaming of food heaven. LOL
4:35: That was a warning from almighty Clang
I heed no such warnings! :P
@@Splitsie "and this, dear audience, is what we call 'foreshadowing'"
Next series... Walk way up.. no wheels build a walker... Pole to pole.
Hmm capacs hotdog in pizza make me hungry
They do make the hotdog stuffed crust in NZ sometimes so good
So once the rover has full DDR controls, will it be named the Dance Dance Roverlution?
And could you put a button on the wheel hubs to drop the inventory access proboscis?
I’m looking forward to this thing having 6x8 5x5 wheel-wheels.
the way the wheels work in SE is a bit different than mechanum or omni wheels which are most common in things like irl robotics because you can power the wheels themselves. omni wheels would require a sideways wheel in the middle, known as H-Drive. while mechanum allows for essentially tank-drive with some extra funky behavior if you run wheels on the same side in opposite direction and stuff, where you can get the same behavior as omni wheels without the extra one in the middle. I don't think that'll ever really work well in SE.
My thought is if you put a rotor on the outside of the wheels that you have now and rotate it 45* off from the current wheels then build your next set of wheels off of that you would have a quite nice ride as it would make your wheels octagons instead of squares.
Yup, that's my next plan (which I did an awful job of articulating during the stream) 😂
@@Splitsie Right on. I love your content btw, keep up the great work!
All 4 of you are awesome!
dance dance counter-revolution 😂😂
Put a solar panel on the roof of the big rover cockpit
At this point splitze has enough capac voice clips to train an Ai :)
I fear it would only train it to be late for everything 🤔
Crashed my car while listening to this lol
But that's their job! Seriously though, hope everything's ok.
Indeed, what John said :D
I'm fine, my bumper isn't though