When an AFL CLUB KEEPS TRIPPING OVER THEMSELVES
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- Опубліковано 26 січ 2025
- Just when it seemed Essendon was on a steady path more boardroom trouble looms. Those in charge have set out a new plan after an indifferent two years under Brad Scott with the focus of drafting the best young players. Will those with an important say choose stability or revert back to what Essendon knows best in the form of change?
It’s astounding to see as a Cats fan that in the late 90s clubs like Carlton, Essendon and North Melbourne were literally powerhouse clubs winning flags, had some of the games greatest stars, played at grounds that became landmarks and were making real bucks.
Meanwhile Geelong had been in a 3 decade long flag drought, lost 4 grand finals in 6 years, lost their coach who went on to find success at Adelaide, struggled to retain players, the club was going broke and Kardinia Park was in much worse shape than even some suburban grounds.
I don’t think anyone could have foreshadowed how the next 20 years would have shaped up for those clubs.
Essendon needs consistency Consistent coaching, consistent training, consistent players, consistent results.
To be fair, they have been consistent as can be. Consistently mediocre.
Barham needs to stay to carry on the job.
Past players, especially in their mid to late 60's living 40 yo in the past, need to support the club in other ways. The future is ahead not in the past.
Come on the dons ♥️🖤
Essendon 🤝 Carlton. Continuous mediocrity.
I’d be surprised if the challengers get up. Essendon socials seem pretty impatient with the whole thing, if that’s any guide.
David Barham has made a lot of mistakes since pretty much the very start whether it be the horrendous initial CEO appointment of the former NAB Chairman, continuing to justify the clubs supposedly needing to profit off pokie machines, keeping both Sheedy and Dodoro a year too long etc. However in saying that he has corrected some of those mistakes and I do get the sense he is genuinely trying to steer the club in the right direction along with Brad Scott, Craig Vozo and Matt Rosa. We can maybe have the discussion about him moving on some time down the line in a few years or so but right now isn't the appropriate time for him to go for the all the reasons you pointed out. The club needs stability and consistency. Not another change of regime which would almost certainly come with a change of Coach and therefore change of direction and expectations going forward.
I personally like the direction we are now going down which is a much younger list with a focus on bringing in and developing proper talent instead of the band-aid solutions over the years as you mentioned. The likes of Wright, Shiel, Smith, Stringer, Kelly, etc. I like that our recent draft finally put a focus on multiple positions we need improvement in instead of more small bodied midfielders. Guess that tends to happen when you have a proper List Manager that knows what they are doing. I think in particular Angus Clarke and Zak Johnson could be absolute steals. I look forward to eventually seeing Lewis Hayes get AFL game time. Same case with Saad Al-Hawli. Jaxon Prior could also be a solid pick up.
Overall there is a lot more pain to come in the next few years but if the club sticks to this direction and that is a big if. Then I can see a bright future further down the line.
The President can bugger off! He doesn’t need to be there for the current direction of the club to continue, in fact Andrew Welsh has been a massive reason as to why changes have been made this year, it was Barham that was holding on to Dodoro at all costs, the quicker Welsh is elevated to President the quicker the club will have sustained stability.
The current list of drafted players in the 20 - 22 age bracket have not developed. Cox, Reid, Perkins, Davey, Hobbs, Tsatas and Menzie are all currently playing for their careers this year.
As an Essendon fan I think Essendon need consistent training in my opinion and just consistent all over their football club to become better. But hopefully we can recover next year.
Just wanna add, Brad Scott took Norf to the prelims two years in a row from outside the top 4 with a frankly average squad. The bombers can’t even make finals with arguably a better list.
Brad Scott was a one trick pony at North, when under pressure his goto move was to drop a player back but then he was one of the biggest advocates for the 6-6-6 rule, what kind of clown advocates for a rule change that effectively takes your only trick out of the game... he clearly still has nothing else to offer, will only ever be a mediocre coach and the only lasting impact he will have on the game is that stupid "dissent" rule...
It’s a bad time to be struggling, too. Once the stupid new expansion team enters there will be no draft picks for anyone else.
We're pretty well placed for this though. Two first rounders and two second rounders in the draft next year. Coby Bewick who is the top rated U/15 player in the country will be in the Tassie draft year - a likely top 10 - and we have access to him as a father son. Plus, If you take out Goldy this year we would have the youngest list.
@@droquet6961 Yep. We just got *seven* young players in this year, on top of the ones we already have and picks to come. How many come good is to be seen, but we’ve done what we can.
Paul Weston needs to piss off
😂😂 This board IS the problem, Barham has been there since 2015 when Essendon decided to rebuild... oh they haven't, they've always topped up
The club needs to follow a plan and not throw it out straight away Essendon is like Manchester United trying to find success again but makes bad decisions all the time and I know because I support them both
Both clubs simply can't let go of the past and establish a new identity for a new era. You basically gotta do what Liverpool did when Jurgen Klopp first tookover which is basically steer as far as possible from the past, be honest with the fans and media and tell them time is needed. In his case 4-5 years based off what he said in his very first press conference. By doing that you won't get anywhere as near as much pressure from the media because they won't be constantly bringing up success. United's problem up until Amorin recently is that much every Manager you guys have had (maybe OGS aside) has consistently talked a big game from day one and so thus the pressure and expectations from both fans and media absolutely sky rocket. On of top allowing them far too much power in the transfer market. Like the recently sacked Ten Hag literally had a clause in his contract that gave him full control over transfers and thus as a result you get absolute duds like Antony.
@taliamason7986 You nailed that
@@taliamason7986 Antony.....the Brazilian fidget spinner.
I still think Essendon is at least 5 to 7 years away from competing for a top 4 finish and playing off in a prelim and who knows it could be 10 years + . And let's not forget to get to a prelim you need to be a top 4 and get your first win unless you can do what Brisbane did, but history is not so kind if you are outside the top 4, Essendon is a bottom 8 at best and will be for some time to come. No forward line no defense no Midfield.
Quite simply it matters not if we vote the right way 🎉
What’s this rot? Players win Flags and coaches take them towards that goal. The coaches who have been there and done it as players or coaches at the highest level invariably always are the best most successful coaches. Success breeds success. Dons are on the right path with the current playing group and coach to make the 8 and win a final in 2025 and challenge in the years there after for another Flag. The board doesn’t play the game on match day and has zero effect on a win/loss ratio. Recruiting the right players and being coached by a person who automatically garners the respect of the players as I’ve stated above is the key ingredient to success and winning flags at AFL level. 😉🇦🇺👊
David Barham is the problem!!! He is a liability and has forced the hand of the members to want him out and Welsh in as President, and to achieve this we will be voting out his supporters!!!
Your summation of the club is so far off, it’s not funny🤦♂️
This vid missed the mark. The drugs saga 2012-2016, the resulting penalties, players traded out, no players coming in, is the cause of all of this. It sent the club 10 years into the wilderness. Dons had to offload cheaply most of its best players around that time such as Ryder, Carlisle, Hibberd, Melksham, Crameri. The Dons team of 2013 would've been top 6, maybe top 4 team.
The penalties aren't an excuse anymore and anyhow much of the pain of the last decade could have been sustantially mitigated had we rebuilt a lot sooner like say the year most of our players got banned. Instead of that sensible solution that would likely by now have us a consistent Finals contender because of all the access to so much top level talent that so many teams have since been benefiting from. We instead went down the delusions of granduer road, foolishly believing the list at that time was good enough for Finals contention and as result we went up and down like a yo-yo until most of the players during the Saga period had either been traded away or retired. The club and especially Adrian Dodoro were just too scared and cowardly to go down the rebuild path and so instead tried push it away for as long as possible until he was booted out of the club and poor Matt Rosa is now left to clean up his gigantic mess. The positive thing now going forward is that we are finally prioritising bringing in proper young talent over the band-aid solution big trades and free agents we have wasted so much time and cap space on.
That 2013 team was pretty decent but it still wouldn't have won a Final especially given it would been Collingwood we would have faced had the ban not happened and they absolutely destroyed us by 79 points in Round 19. We largely retained the same team the following season minus Angus Monfries who went to Port Adelaide, brought in Paul Chapman and were actually a lot better defensively under Bomber Thompson but still finished in the exact same position of 7th and 6 points off the previous season and ending up narrowly losing to North Melbourne in the Elimination Final in last 2 minutes after been almost 40 points up at half-time. Even without all the punishments to the draft, that team still wouldn't have done any better than 7th and an Elimination Final exit because we didn't have enough star level players with a big impact on those teams outside of Jobe Watson, Brent Stanton, Brendan Goddard and eventually Dyson Heppel from 2014 onwards. What we largely had were a lot of really solid role-players. Many of which did really well at other clubs. We also suprisingly had a pretty stable defence comprised of Hurley, Hooker, Carlisle and Hibberd. Ironically the band-aid solution players we have been bringing in for the last 7 years are exactly they type of players we needed in those teams back then Guys like Stringer, Shiel and Wright would easily made the difference against North Melbourne in that Elimination Final.
@@taliamason7986 well agree to disagree. That dons team in 2013 played the best football i'd seen in the last 20 years, I think they could have gone all the way. I wrote what I wrote because many of these people talking about 20 years of irrelevancy will take a passing note about the drugs saga, when in my view it is the biggest cause from the last 11 years. Prior to 2013, Sheeds hung on too long to the role, the cub didn't adapt fast enough to draft in talent and Knighters either didn't have the players, game plan or timing. Them the brakes.
If Paul Weston is elected im no longer a dons supporter
I dont even want solly on the board
Solly needs to be our Defensive coach. He was the hardest bastard when he was playing. Matty Lloyd hated match sims with him, he was so grateful that he and Solly were on the same side. Lloyd only belted through the week, every other key forward got the shit kicked out of them each weekend when Solly was in his prime.
HE was the type of player that Essendon need NOW. Why Solly's looking to get on the board I'll never know, he needs to be out there in the rain on training days trying to harden a few of our blokes up a bit. Maybe then we'll stop leaking goals every week, which is still our weakest part of our entire structure.
Nate Caddy: yeahyeahyeah, what bloody good is Nate Caddy when we keep getting torn apart through the centre because NO one can defend.
Solly on the board? It makes no sense at all.
I can't believe I'm embarassed to be an Essendon supporter. From once the arguably grestest club in the league to a laughing stock in 20 loooong years. Smh.
In the state league*
North Hobart, East Fremantle, Port Adelaide are far more successful state teams
Maybe they should find the worst club in the league get their coach who never had any success at the worst club.
May it long continue! Complete laughing stock.
lol dons
Essendon can start by getting rid of their coach they are a joke of a club
Essendon has been a fun laughing stock
Brad Scott is a failed coach