A DEBUT that RUINED AN AFL CAREER

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  • Опубліковано 11 січ 2025

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  • @HorizonOfHope
    @HorizonOfHope Місяць тому +16

    I was at that Pies versus Demons match. TBH, it felt like Collingwood were barely trying for the most part. It was raining for a lot of the game and Collingwood seemed to be moving the ball wherever they liked. Sometimes they seemed to pissfart around with it for a bit cos they just knew Melbourne could do precisely nothing to threaten them.

  • @PTPavlos
    @PTPavlos Місяць тому +7

    We had him at Port Adelaide. Nice guy. Played good footy. Like having him at our club. Sad to see him get injured. Wish him well.

  • @HLsab
    @HLsab Місяць тому +3

    His nickname was “the gift” as he was gifted 100 games at Melbourne.

  • @BtGo63
    @BtGo63 Місяць тому +3

    i remember that classic photo of jack sitting with his classmates just before the draft,he was twice the size of them

  • @Magpie_Mark92
    @Magpie_Mark92 Місяць тому +7

    Sacking Neale Daniher for Dean Bailey was a massive mistake even at the time I thought it was wrong as Daniher was a great coach

    • @effkay3691
      @effkay3691 Місяць тому +1

      That was the issue. Melbourne had a decent list. That squad could have played finals consistently but the football department was a joke

    • @Magpie_Mark92
      @Magpie_Mark92 Місяць тому

      @effkay3691 Dean Bailey just ripped up Neale Danihers' plans and got rid of nearly everyone in his first year

  • @theurbanyouth
    @theurbanyouth Місяць тому +13

    I'm surprised number 1 draft pick Watts lasted as long as he did with 11 seasons and having played 174 games, there's been much better players who finished up playing a similar amount of games.

    • @danieljoyce4015
      @danieljoyce4015 Місяць тому +2

      He was actually decent in the end. Way worse busts than him.

    • @cjcrrazy
      @cjcrrazy Місяць тому

      I vaguely remember hearing around 4% of players play 200 games , so 174 not bad, you’d take it for his career if he was a 10-20 pick

    • @theurbanyouth
      @theurbanyouth Місяць тому

      @@cjcrrazy It's more that I'm surprised for a number 1 draft pick that he didn't do much within that timeframe, whereas players with similar games played overall who did much better.

  • @rollybear
    @rollybear Місяць тому +4

    Excellent piece TSE. Perhaps a similar number one glorified pick prior to this was Richard Tambling in 2004

  • @tonysouth1313
    @tonysouth1313 Місяць тому +1

    The tall youngsters are under more pressure if they are drafted at no. 1 or 2 as it takes them longer to develop. It's also challenging for recruiters to predict how quickly a 200cm, 18yo key position player or ruckman will develop - or even whether they will fulfil their early promise at all.

  • @blackdogRexy
    @blackdogRexy Місяць тому +5

    It a such a nightmare period for the Dees. The tanking, the premature deaths of Stynes, Wight and eventually Bailey and the drafting of two mediocre midfielders ahead of the greatest big game player to ever pull on a pair of boots. We all thought that no club could ever implode as badly a this and then the Bombers came along and made Melbourne look sensible.

    • @phoqas
      @phoqas Місяць тому +1

      To be fair treners could of been anything if he’s foot problems didn’t let him down but my god can you imagine we took dusty over scully

    • @HorizonOfHope
      @HorizonOfHope Місяць тому +2

      Part of it was the fact that their mistery coincided with the introduction of two expansion teams. They robbed anyone of the chance to compete by rebuilding - and also ensured that no one else could top off or trade to compete with Hawthorn. It's about to happen again as Tasmania comes in - you definitely want to get a winning list now as if you are down when they take all draft picks then you are down for a decade.

  • @cjcrrazy
    @cjcrrazy Місяць тому +2

    I remember Leigh Matthews saying in a game - I see nothing in him that would make him a number 1 draft pick. In WA the hype was always over Nick Nat, even if west coast had the choice they would have definitely picked him over Watts, despite his rawness and lack of footy IQ, more on potential and marketing ability.

  • @wlsmojo
    @wlsmojo Місяць тому +4

    When asked, I think Bailey said that they put him out on the field because they wanted to “give the fan something“. Such talent but he was recruited into a bloody clown show followed by an even bigger clown show when Neeld was put in. Probably the worst development you can imagine.

  • @trevorstevenson4038
    @trevorstevenson4038 Місяць тому +4

    Great professional reporting.

  • @davidpalmer5967
    @davidpalmer5967 Місяць тому +2

    Collingwood sort of did that with Nick Daicos but had the Opposite Effect

    • @danieljoyce4015
      @danieljoyce4015 Місяць тому +1

      Collingwood had a much better team and situation to Melbourne

  • @colinross6259
    @colinross6259 Місяць тому +2

    Thanks again for another insight TSE. I remember the Watts hype. No media training for the kids back then and Dees supporters are a very fickle bunch. A kid against men in a crap team on one of the biggest stages. Only one way it was going to end. The media, darling one week and scapegoat the next week. Sensationalism sells stories, not the truth.

  • @nintiwirri
    @nintiwirri Місяць тому +2

    Watts was playing good footy at Port when they put him in the backline.Then he badly broke his leg and that was basically all over for him

  • @tommyandrewd
    @tommyandrewd Місяць тому +4

    I remember Naitanui always being more hyped up and considered the better player.

    • @biggi3st3v3
      @biggi3st3v3 Місяць тому +4

      Sorry that's not correct. He was considered to have more potential but many recruiters didn't know what to make of him. He was extremely raw and there were many who felt he was nothing more than pure athleticism and highlights without much substance in terms of footballing ability. Watts was the consensus number 1 pick and while time has shown that naitanui mostly lived up to his potential(mostly as injuries caused him have an interrupted career) Melbourne had no choice but to pick watts as they would have been crucified if they didn't and nic nat left after a few years due to homesickness, which was a big concern for them. The mistake Melbourne really made was how they used him. He was a key forward, he needed time to develop and they didn't give it to him

  • @fren183
    @fren183 Місяць тому +2

    I remember jack watts was my favourite player then he went to port adelade

  • @774CISCO
    @774CISCO Місяць тому +7

    Melbourne screwing it up as usual.😂

  • @falconmclenny7284
    @falconmclenny7284 Місяць тому +3

    Melbourne of the 2000s, only the current norf could make them look good.

  • @davidpalmer5967
    @davidpalmer5967 Місяць тому +3

    Melboune Being Terrible was not Really Watts Fault as he is just 1 player

  • @Kaiju-Goji
    @Kaiju-Goji Місяць тому +1

    Its hard to be a great player when your coach wants the team to loose

  • @davidpalmer5967
    @davidpalmer5967 Місяць тому +4

    IF he was Drafted by a Better Club in 2008 he might turned out to be a Good AFL Player

    • @tubester4567
      @tubester4567 Місяць тому

      Personally, I dont think he wanted it that much, Even in the early years he never worked on his body, he didnt seem to want to work too hard.

    • @TotalDramaOwenandNoah
      @TotalDramaOwenandNoah Місяць тому

      real, Melboune genuinely failed Jack Watts

    • @PTPavlos
      @PTPavlos Місяць тому +1

      Watts was a good player. He was just at a bad club. He played lots of games - kicked lots of goals. He just wasn’t a number 1 draft pick. Melbourne supporters were not supportive - they were ignorant and savage.

  • @rustedpig97
    @rustedpig97 Місяць тому +1

    Looking back at his kids highlights, sure he stood out, but I don’t understand how he went at pick 1.

  • @tylernich0848
    @tylernich0848 Місяць тому +1

    Reid & watts similar height? Watts is 10cm taller.

  • @TotalDramaOwenandNoah
    @TotalDramaOwenandNoah Місяць тому +2

    Melbourne failed Jack Watts, good thing Paul Roos helped develop him the way he did.

  • @effkay3691
    @effkay3691 Місяць тому +2

    Back then clubs had no clue how to bring young players through. Melbourne were as bad as any. Blew up promising careers as a matter of course……one after the other.

    • @Bevtone
      @Bevtone 26 днів тому

      My mind goes to Jack trengrove who's career ended in obscurity

  • @drbosommd
    @drbosommd Місяць тому +1

    His debut didn't ruin his career. Even Nick Maxwell pointed out that Watts got a free kick from that tackle. Clearly we should have picked Nic Nat . Watts just didn't have enough drive and aggression to get the most out of himself . And of course the Dees were a basketcase but he could've been a better player.

    • @cjcrrazy
      @cjcrrazy Місяць тому

      He seems like a nice, intelligent guy with a a life outside footy, unfortunately those guys aren’t 100% footy nuts devoted to improving, with a hint of arrogance and assholeness which you need.

  • @brettduffin8412
    @brettduffin8412 Місяць тому +1

    Jack watts was great at lower levels, but way too slow at afl level. The amount of times he was caught while making up his mind what to do was outstanding for me. This was all Jack, not the way Melbourne treated him. This vid is a bit of a cop out.

  • @leighsymons5619
    @leighsymons5619 Місяць тому +1

    The joint.captaincy of Trengove and Grimes was as well a horrible decision.

  • @Magpie_Mark92
    @Magpie_Mark92 Місяць тому +1

    Why is Jack Watts sooking after being gang tackled when its not illegal in the game

    • @joelcurry4771
      @joelcurry4771 Місяць тому

      maybe because he didn’t have the ball

    • @Magpie_Mark92
      @Magpie_Mark92 Місяць тому

      @joelcurry4771 he had the ball when he got tackled he dropped it

  • @macdouglas1087
    @macdouglas1087 Місяць тому +1

    Watts his name

  • @magicjohnson3121
    @magicjohnson3121 Місяць тому +2

    I remember Collingwood put 2 players on him. They believed the hype too. Absolutely brutal lol.

  • @mattd6593
    @mattd6593 Місяць тому

    Melbourne made the mistake of picking a Brighton Grammar player, they have always been soft as butter.

  • @benjaminparkinson5255
    @benjaminparkinson5255 Місяць тому +2

    Tom.scully is another one