Umps did fine. Missed the guy on 3rd not tagging up but with everything else going on and only having 3 umps its understandable that minor detail slipped through the cracks
@@darrowgoff3256 The run was gonna score even if he tagged up, its also a minor league game with 3 umps, really not the end of the world and if it was that important they would use replay. "Erm ackshully! " havin ass
@@Happymouth1 I agree they got 90% of it right and for 3 people no way that can catch it all.... But if they see he didn't tag, then the throw to tag the player running from 2nd would be a force out. Meaning no run and inning over. IDK if it mattered in the game...
lol that catcher bro...completely wrong about everything, walks himself into an out for no reason and is adamant he's right. then gets in the ump's face and starts chirping him. when the ump tells him what happened, he tells the ump to get out of his face. manager who has no idea what's going on storms over and chirps the ump further then gets mad that he's tossed. meanwhile the mistake was actually of benefit to them and they're still mad about it. his player walks into an out and he tells them ump that it was the umpires that messed up. yeah the umps made a mistake but none of them were being assholes about it, rarely side with the umps but they handled the aftermath of the mistake as professionally as they could have. they're mad at the umps meanwhile they're even more clueless than the umps were.
The ump is the one in his face instigating shit, the catcher is trying to back off and the three-year-old "ump" instantly throws out the manager for daring to criticize getting in the catcher's face.
@@UltimaKeyMaster not sure what you're watching. ump was walking around not even talking or looking at the catcher but the catcher starts chirping him so he responds. ump is explaining the situation (again) but the catcher doesnt hear what he wants to hear and tells the ump to get out of his face so the ump responds again. manager storms out even though he clearly has no idea what is going on there and he gets in the umps face, ump has already explained this to both the manager and the player a few times now and is tired of it so he tosses him. they keep telling the ump he got it wrong but it was actually the third base ump that got it wrong. all of the other umps including the home plate ump handled it correctly.
@@UltimaKeyMaster bro what video did you watch?? The umpire is conversing with the catcher, the catcher makes it personal for no reason, he gets warned by the umpire (part of his job) and then his coach comes out to get tossed instead of his catcher
Im fine with the catcher. As a former ump, your job is to have a decent relationship with these catchers, not an adversarial one. If you made a mistake as an ump, or a questionable call on a confusing play, you should not be too arrogant to have a sidebar with the catcher about it. I loved these kinda catchers. He was not being an ass about anything, just chuckling about the play, but the ump here clearly was looking for some.
Ump lied to the coach about what he was talking to the catcher about for a reason. He shouldn’t have engaged like he did. It just gives the appearance of moral superiority because the catcher also was wrong here too. Everyone can be wrong all at once.
I think the catcher is the typical provocateur shit-stirring type of person and he managed to get both his coach and the ump to reach their respective patience limits.
Yep! First he says the ball bounced, when it didn’t. Then wonders off the base like an idiot and gets tagged out, and then stirs shit up again in the next half inning and plays victim like he didn’t start shit 🙄
@@TheRaggedyDr because it was a line drive to the 2nd baseman. Going back to the base is the correct move, as he's more likely to catch it than not. He saw the ump signal the batter out when 2B threw it to SS, and wasn't looking at the ump when he eventually signaled the runner was safe. In real time it's easy to be confused.
In the beginning he was confused, argumentative, but not mad. In the end after the ump was telling the player off he was mad for that, and the instant ejection ofc.
@@quillclock A little bit of both I think. The manager was clearly confused as to why or how, but he understood he was benefitting a bit from the bad call. The "You guys F'ed that up but I'm not gonna argue anymore" says to me that he was almost a little mad for the other team. The bit at the end was just him getting mad at the ump being assertive with his catcher though.
Reminds me of The Other Guys, where Will Farrell's character creates the app that takes a pic of the back of someone's head & it predicts what their face looks like
Yeah, bush league to harp on something after the inning has turned over. And then things got too real for him and he just wanted to just move on like a kid who gets in trouble by the teacher.
The two umps at 2nd and 1st did their job. Whoever was meant to look at 3rd failed. And then the team that should be embarrassed gets a free run decides to get all pissy. What a mess
I'm not sure of the mechanics and primary responsibility, but I suspect in that instance the tag up at third would be the responsibility of the home plate umpire.
Ump who called the out on the catch should have pointed at the 2nd baseman then get the out signal. Then point at the runner at 2nd and give the safe signal. The out, safe calls are what confused everyone
I don't understand why we're calling the team who benefitted "pissy" for saying the umps fucked up. They should be COMMENDED for trying to walk back their benefit the umps fuck up gave them.
@@mz610 Interesting you call it feminine energy because I think it's a widespread attitude among bullies and "tough guys". All bark, no bite, play the victim when challenged.
Catcher; Misses being called safe when tagging up Wanders off the bag when he was safe Gets tagged out Incorrectly argues that the ball wasn't caught Continues to argue about it the next half inning Gets defensive when the ump, rightfully, tells him to shut up Seems like a real Chad.
Idk why everyone hates the catcher so much. The home plate ump couldn’t see through his ego to back down even when the catcher accepted his answer. Catcher was ready to play again and the ump stood firm right in front of him. Catcher had seemingly moved on but the ump wouldn’t budge.
One of the things my dad taught me was stay on the bag until the umpire tells you to get off. It was after I made a similar mistake where I got off the bag because I was called out only to realize that the guy failed to catch the ball.
I once talked a runner who had cleanly stolen 2nd that the pitch was fouled off, so he went to return to 1st and we put him out. Why he believed me will forever be unknown.
I kinda made that mistake once. Was on second amd stole 3rd. There was some play at home on the steal so I wasn't quite sure what happened. Coach told me to go back to 2nd so I did. Ended up stealing 3rd again but was stranded there. After the 3rd out the ump asked me why I went back to 2nd. I just said "coach told me too." He explained that it wasn't foul and to wait for the umps instructions, more or less. End result made no difference but I learned a lesson that day.
Amazingly, this is the most baseball-baseball I’ve seen in the last couple years. Everyone but the defense fucked up and the two parties in the wrong (one who undeservedly benefited, and one with nothing but ego on the line) fought with each other about it. Beautiful.
There was already one out so it was a double play. The tag out between 2nd and 3rd should have been unnecessary but the umps failed to catch that the runner at 3rd didn't tag up. But yeah, it would have been a triple play if there were no outs and the umps correctly called the out at 3rd.
@@chiveskirktechnically there would have only been two outs officially recorded, but there is a rule for four outs in an inning, which kind of would apply in this situation but also not. If the outs were recorded in the opposite order (runner tagged after run scores, appeal at third on the missed tag up) then the fourth out would supercede the third recorded out. Either way the run shouldn't have counted.
If the runner was so sure the ball bounced why tf did he go back to tag up at 2nd? And then just walks to third, then bitches about the call lol when the correct call would have meant the inning ends with no runs scored.. what's missing from this is the other team bitching about them blowing the call at 3rd, that woulda been justified.
@@UltimaKeyMaster the catcher walked himself into a double play by not paying attention, he is quite literally wrong. The umps only mistake was beneficial to the team, they shouldve stfu about it
Baseball egos can be off the charts, lol, they thought the ball bounced, but it was caught, and started complaining, but then they realized a call that benefitted them was called wrong, and rubbed it in the umps face. You know the dugout knows every play that happens before the umps can say anything, so they found out real quick the ball was caught.
And all that in a sport where nobody is actually tough. I love baseball but I have a lot more respect for Hockey players with egos because they at least bite behind their bark
a rare situation where the umps did a (Relatively) great job, missing only the tag-up on 3rd base but getting every other call correct and called in real time. Weird how arrogant the coach and players were in being wrong.
I mean missing the player at 3rd tagging up was a pretty big deal. The other team was required to get three outs without only 2 remaining, AND the offense got a run that they shouldn't have.
@@Happymouth1there’s a pretty big difference between little league and minor leagues. An extra run they shouldn’t have had is a pretty big deal. It was a confusing play, though.
To the umps credit , they DID call in real time the ball caught , and the 2 runners safe at 2nd and 1st. The Catcher wandered off 2nd and got tagged out even tho he SAW the 2B ump call him safe (he was looking at the ump) so idk what tf he was doing. And then he continued antagonizing the home plate ump (who was not involved in the play)
It does seem strange that the catcher apparently registered the out call that happened behind his back, but missed the safe call that he could have seen.
So it's actually pretty simple. For whatever reason, he fucked up and left 2nd base. So he fucked up, got himself out in an incredibly embarrassing way, and now his team is headed to the dugout. His manager walks over to ask "WTF man" and he's only got one good excuse, and we all see it at 1:58. So he lies, says it bounced, and now that's his story and he's sticking to it. And how better to sell it than by starting even more shit with the ump back at home plate and getting your manager thrown out. And he would have gotten away with it too! If it weren't for that medling Jomboy.
@@BarderBetterFasterStronger I've never taken an interest in a minor league player before, but I hope that catcher never makes it big. I hope he plays single A ball for ten years before finally realizing it's not in the cards, and then goes and works as a gas station attendant. Terrible sportsmanship should not be rewarded.
@BarderBetterFasterStronger it's actually a lot simpler than you make it seem. he probably saw that the runner from third didn't tag up, so he knew that if the ball didn't bounce, then that runner would be out, which is why he was confused about the run scoring, him being out, and whether or not the ball actually bounced. the point is the umpire fucked up by allowing the run to count, plain and simple
I love how the umpires got the line drive call right, the call at 2nd right, the call at 1st right, but the call at 3rd wrong. The runners - 1st got it right by going back to the bag, 2nd got it right by going back to the bag, then got it wrong by going to 3rd, 3rd got it wrong by not tagging up. The umps got 1 thing wrong and the players got 2 things wrong - but yeah, lets only tell the umps they F'd up
The difference is the two runners went back to the dugout and admitted to their manager that they screwed up, while the ump stands there and doubles down.
The umps are there to make sure the guy at third tagged up, which he didn't. If a citizen speeds, and a cop speeds the cop has a higher standard than the Citizen
Yeah and it’s not like umps even have anything to hide. They’re supposed to be clear and transparent about making the call. No need to hide, they’re not the pitching coach out at the mound or something.
My favorite time of year on UA-cam is late May - June. Jomboy has baseball to sift through and breakdowns are coming out quick. The boys are giddy for baseball right now.
If it makes anyone feel better, the catcher (number 11 for the Veleros, Columbus Clippers, Indians AAA affiliate) is Dominic Nunez. In 2457 MiLB at bats, he's hitting .236 with a .336 OBP, and a .730 OPS. In his exactly 300 at bats in the MLB, his average was .180, with a .280 OBP, and a .653 OPS. He's below average in everything and was drafted in 2013 (11 years ago). He's going no where. Just a 29 year old journeyman.
Bro the catcher asks him a question about the call he just made, the ump responds to him disrespectfully and tells him to shut up. This is 100% on the 2 umps that fucked up. The second base ump called an out on a safe runner and the home plate ump completely missed the guy not tagging up and they both proceeded to not admit a mistake or think they need to review it. 1 ump did his job and the others acted like 3 year olds who wont admit they did something bad
That catchers a tool, starts an argument with the ump IN THE NEXT HALF INNING (after being benefited by them missing something), and then tells the ump to get out of his face, while he's not in his face.
JOMBOY must be using that app from Will Farrell in the movie "the other guys" because he can read lips by looking at the back of heads lol!! Strong work sir!!!
Two people weren't paying attention, and that caused the confusion. The runner at second did not look at the 2nd base ump to see that the fly ball was called out, and then again when that runner went back to 2nd base and the same ump called him safe, the runner didn't see that. Next the third base ump didn't see the runner at second not tag up. And then to cap it off, Jomboy got so excited at the beginning, he forgot to tell us who the teams were ! Anyway, lots of fun all around.
It's a AAA game so there isn't a third base umpire. There's home plate and two guys out in the field. It probaby was the home plate ump's responsibility to check that runner on third.
They definitely knew they benefited. The manager just wanted to put the ump in his place, dude was acting like he was king of the castle when he was talking to the catcher and then had the nerve to touch the manager. The ump has a god complex haha
Went through footage of this game. It appeared from a side view of the 3rd and 1st base dugout that ball bounced. It didn’t if you watch from front view or behind. But yeah idk why he didn’t freeze on a line drive regardless
@silasbentley4433 yeah I get it as a baserunner on 3rd tough angle to see butttt lmao you always tag up especially if you're not sure if runner on 2nd goes that's on him😅
@timmoore6532 They are an AAA affiliate of the Cleveland Guardians. They are definitely pros. Good middle school teams know these things. He even admitted to not tagging. They know the rules. They just made an error during a quick developing play. What's asinine is the claim that you know better than pro atheltes on fundamental baserunning. And then make fun of them in the comments with your cute little emojis.
Definitely gonna have to side with the umps here. They got 3 out of 4 calls right on a really confusing series of events and this coach BENEFITED from said botchery and still yells at the umps? Actually ridiculous. Same with the clown catcher too
0:19 it's so funny to me when MiLB players make the same mistakes that I do as someone who is just learning the sport... It goes to show how needlessly convoluted the rules are 😭
Shouldn’t that have been a triple play? - first out caught the ball - second out tagged third (and runner didn’t tag) - third out tagged the runner going to 3rd Edit: There was 1 out already, so double play.
I know people love drama and fighting, but the sport of baseball would be better without so much arguing for the sake of arguing. The way coaches get in umpires faces and just scream at them ruins the game. Everyone is so sensitive and demands unquestioning respect, but won't give a shred of it to an ump or the other team.
So the manager was fuming mad because the ump pointed at his catcher? Baseball fans call umps soft all the time but the whole sport is fucking ten-ply. Just unbelievably soft.
This appears to be an International League game (Triple-A level) between the Columbus Clippers (For certain games they use the "Veleros" jerseys) affiliated with the Cleveland Guardians, and the Toledo Mud Hens which are affiliated with the Detroit Tigers.
Ehh idk kinda goofy just drawing heat from the umps can make them do bad calls out of spite especially ump behind the catcher calling strikes, better to just keep shit peaceful tbh
Baseball truly is America's sport. The inability/unwillingness to use technology that other sports take for granted, the dysfunctional governance, the demented hostility and lack of civility, the big money for the few.. it really reflects contemporary American society.
Theres no need for that language - that manager should be ashamed of himself. Moreover he needs to drop some weight before he strokes out acting so foolishly.
@@mirrorblue100 when people are pissed, they will cuss this common place in today's world. And if you don't like it, you are too sensitive for today's world.
@@mirrorblue100 this is common in sports. And this is fairly common for when people get pissed off is to cuss. So, no, you are the one who has an issue. More so you are only voicing complaint about it. If it was an issue more people would have. clutch your pearls elsewhere.
The person responsible for this play is the second base umpire, the home plate umpire can only assist in this play, but he did not do so, that is wrong, it is a terrible call, since it was an appeal with a live ball, and the run It should not have been scored, but the manager of the benefiting team is much more ridiculous than the play itself.
I hope all the players, coaches, and umps in this video actually see this video so they can understand the play they didn’t understand.
I think the Colorado coach understood it, eventually.
Umps did fine. Missed the guy on 3rd not tagging up but with everything else going on and only having 3 umps its understandable that minor detail slipped through the cracks
@@Happymouth1 Whether a run scores or not isn't really a minor detail
@@darrowgoff3256 The run was gonna score even if he tagged up, its also a minor league game with 3 umps, really not the end of the world and if it was that important they would use replay.
"Erm ackshully! " havin ass
@@Happymouth1 I agree they got 90% of it right and for 3 people no way that can catch it all....
But if they see he didn't tag, then the throw to tag the player running from 2nd would be a force out. Meaning no run and inning over. IDK if it mattered in the game...
Catcher seems like a nozzle
And the manager
The umpire should not have engaged in a conversation with the catcher. The manager already had his say and walked away. Let it go!
@@DavidEmerling79 The catcher engaged in a conversation with the umpire first. You must not have watched the video closely.
dropping 'bro' that many times should be auto ejection
@@DavidEmerling79 The catcher started arguing again cupcake
This is an amazingly hilarious sequence that ended with the wrong team being mad. Unreal.
Poetic justice.
I love the game of baseball! This is so hilarious 😂
lol that catcher bro...completely wrong about everything, walks himself into an out for no reason and is adamant he's right. then gets in the ump's face and starts chirping him. when the ump tells him what happened, he tells the ump to get out of his face. manager who has no idea what's going on storms over and chirps the ump further then gets mad that he's tossed. meanwhile the mistake was actually of benefit to them and they're still mad about it. his player walks into an out and he tells them ump that it was the umpires that messed up.
yeah the umps made a mistake but none of them were being assholes about it, rarely side with the umps but they handled the aftermath of the mistake as professionally as they could have. they're mad at the umps meanwhile they're even more clueless than the umps were.
The ump is the one in his face instigating shit, the catcher is trying to back off and the three-year-old "ump" instantly throws out the manager for daring to criticize getting in the catcher's face.
@@UltimaKeyMaster not sure what you're watching. ump was walking around not even talking or looking at the catcher but the catcher starts chirping him so he responds. ump is explaining the situation (again) but the catcher doesnt hear what he wants to hear and tells the ump to get out of his face so the ump responds again. manager storms out even though he clearly has no idea what is going on there and he gets in the umps face, ump has already explained this to both the manager and the player a few times now and is tired of it so he tosses him. they keep telling the ump he got it wrong but it was actually the third base ump that got it wrong. all of the other umps including the home plate ump handled it correctly.
@@UltimaKeyMaster bro what video did you watch?? The umpire is conversing with the catcher, the catcher makes it personal for no reason, he gets warned by the umpire (part of his job) and then his coach comes out to get tossed instead of his catcher
Im fine with the catcher.
As a former ump, your job is to have a decent relationship with these catchers, not an adversarial one. If you made a mistake as an ump, or a questionable call on a confusing play, you should not be too arrogant to have a sidebar with the catcher about it. I loved these kinda catchers. He was not being an ass about anything, just chuckling about the play, but the ump here clearly was looking for some.
Ump lied to the coach about what he was talking to the catcher about for a reason. He shouldn’t have engaged like he did.
It just gives the appearance of moral superiority because the catcher also was wrong here too. Everyone can be wrong all at once.
I'm disappointed in the manager, I was expecting a "HORSESHIT!" in there somewhere
He doesn’t qualify to use that in minor league. Gotta level up to the Majors.
"Horse Hockey" - Col. Sherman Potter.
It's honestly horseshit that he didn't use horseshit at least once
The heart part 6
or the “ur better than that”
I think the catcher is the typical provocateur shit-stirring type of person and he managed to get both his coach and the ump to reach their respective patience limits.
Yep! First he says the ball bounced, when it didn’t. Then wonders off the base like an idiot and gets tagged out, and then stirs shit up again in the next half inning and plays victim like he didn’t start shit 🙄
Exactly, if the ball bounced then why did he run back to second? He didn't think it bounced, he's just a liar.
@@battalion99
“Wonders off the base”
😂 Wrong word but that still works
@@TheRaggedyDr because it was a line drive to the 2nd baseman. Going back to the base is the correct move, as he's more likely to catch it than not. He saw the ump signal the batter out when 2B threw it to SS, and wasn't looking at the ump when he eventually signaled the runner was safe. In real time it's easy to be confused.
eah, bush league to harp on something after the inning has turned over.
They benefited from a terrible call and got mad. 🤣😂
Yeah, I don’t think I’ve ever seen that.
for the honor of the game
(or they didn't realize it benefited them right away)
In the beginning he was confused, argumentative, but not mad. In the end after the ump was telling the player off he was mad for that, and the instant ejection ofc.
@@Laf-Adventures nope. that was what we call in the industry 'toddler mad'.
@@quillclock A little bit of both I think. The manager was clearly confused as to why or how, but he understood he was benefitting a bit from the bad call. The "You guys F'ed that up but I'm not gonna argue anymore" says to me that he was almost a little mad for the other team. The bit at the end was just him getting mad at the ump being assertive with his catcher though.
Catcher is a punk
Jomboy can read lips even when their heads are turned. Yes, he's that good.
Reminds me of The Other Guys, where Will Farrell's character creates the app that takes a pic of the back of someone's head & it predicts what their face looks like
he just makes shit up half the time
We must account for two-faced umps, though.
He can see the reflection in the helmets
curved vision and +10 wisdom
That catcher seems incredibly unlikeable
Yeah, he's giving off Pierzynski vibes.
So does the ump
Yeah, bush league to harp on something after the inning has turned over. And then things got too real for him and he just wanted to just move on like a kid who gets in trouble by the teacher.
Brother you are the lip Reading KING!!!
come on bro... bro bro... dude bro?
The two umps at 2nd and 1st did their job. Whoever was meant to look at 3rd failed. And then the team that should be embarrassed gets a free run decides to get all pissy. What a mess
I'm not sure of the mechanics and primary responsibility, but I suspect in that instance the tag up at third would be the responsibility of the home plate umpire.
@@1981lashlarueThat's correct
Yeah they only have 3 umps so its hone plate who should be on that but i dont blame him because it was an unusual play
Ump who called the out on the catch should have pointed at the 2nd baseman then get the out signal. Then point at the runner at 2nd and give the safe signal. The out, safe calls are what confused everyone
I don't understand why we're calling the team who benefitted "pissy" for saying the umps fucked up. They should be COMMENDED for trying to walk back their benefit the umps fuck up gave them.
Catcher ran his mouth and then played victim when the ump barked back 😂😂😂
all the classic hallmarks of feminine energy. shocked it dint come from the umpire.
@@mz610 Interesting you call it feminine energy because I think it's a widespread attitude among bullies and "tough guys". All bark, no bite, play the victim when challenged.
@@OptimusPrimeribs 100%
Ump should chill out
That's because the ump fucked it up.
Catcher;
Misses being called safe when tagging up
Wanders off the bag when he was safe
Gets tagged out
Incorrectly argues that the ball wasn't caught
Continues to argue about it the next half inning
Gets defensive when the ump, rightfully, tells him to shut up
Seems like a real Chad.
Yeah no one looked good in this. Everyone was annoyed and annoying.
Also: Tells ump to get out of his face when he was never in his face
Give him a break... He's a minor leaguer. :D
I love it! A breakdown inside of a breakdown! 😆
Also, if he didn't think it was caught in the air why the hell was he diving back to 2nd with the bases loaded.
I hate that catcher
I had a friend that made the same stupid faces
@@drewzalo A lot of people, not all but a lot of people within a few years of that catchers age make the same stupid faces. Generational thing.
Idk why everyone hates the catcher so much. The home plate ump couldn’t see through his ego to back down even when the catcher accepted his answer. Catcher was ready to play again and the ump stood firm right in front of him. Catcher had seemingly moved on but the ump wouldn’t budge.
@@chrismarston4266 Are you the catcher's mom? No one is agreeing with you here, lol. Time to move on, buddy/ma'am.
@@chrismarston4266sure bud
One of the things my dad taught me was stay on the bag until the umpire tells you to get off. It was after I made a similar mistake where I got off the bag because I was called out only to realize that the guy failed to catch the ball.
I once talked a runner who had cleanly stolen 2nd that the pitch was fouled off, so he went to return to 1st and we put him out.
Why he believed me will forever be unknown.
I kinda made that mistake once. Was on second amd stole 3rd. There was some play at home on the steal so I wasn't quite sure what happened. Coach told me to go back to 2nd so I did. Ended up stealing 3rd again but was stranded there. After the 3rd out the ump asked me why I went back to 2nd. I just said "coach told me too." He explained that it wasn't foul and to wait for the umps instructions, more or less. End result made no difference but I learned a lesson that day.
@@THEhorihitohe believed you because he still had faith in humanity. Now he's a conspiracy theorist.
@@THEhorihito Every little-leaguer has dealt with this at some point and everytime its some asshole reject who tries to trick the runner
Amazingly, this is the most baseball-baseball I’ve seen in the last couple years. Everyone but the defense fucked up and the two parties in the wrong (one who undeservedly benefited, and one with nothing but ego on the line) fought with each other about it. Beautiful.
Bro this sequence was so weird and confusing 😂
Not really
When it occurred it was confusing because it's unusual, but Jomboy breaking it down made it very easy to understand.
@@channingtaintum Yeah that’s what I’m thinking
There's something hilarious about the team that benefited the most from the missed call be the ones getting upset about it.
Baseball coaches often remind me of upset toddlers in these kinds of situations.
Yup, bloated manager needs to sit down and watch the game. It's embarrassing!
It happens a lot whenever you have supreme power. I've had a lot of coaches that acted like children.
Definitely, getting older does not mean developing emotional maturity, and coaches get a lot of opportunities to throw tantrums lmao
The fact that this was an uber rare triple play and literally everyone missed it is killing me
There was already one out so it was a double play. The tag out between 2nd and 3rd should have been unnecessary but the umps failed to catch that the runner at 3rd didn't tag up. But yeah, it would have been a triple play if there were no outs and the umps correctly called the out at 3rd.
@@chiveskirktechnically there would have only been two outs officially recorded, but there is a rule for four outs in an inning, which kind of would apply in this situation but also not. If the outs were recorded in the opposite order (runner tagged after run scores, appeal at third on the missed tag up) then the fourth out would supercede the third recorded out. Either way the run shouldn't have counted.
Everyone is missing that because it wasn’t a triple play. There was one out at the beginning of the video
Uber? Really?
@@chiveskirk -- You can appeal that, and I'm surprised that there was no appeal. You cannot appeal after leaving the field, BTW.
If the runner was so sure the ball bounced why tf did he go back to tag up at 2nd? And then just walks to third, then bitches about the call lol when the correct call would have meant the inning ends with no runs scored.. what's missing from this is the other team bitching about them blowing the call at 3rd, that woulda been justified.
Catcher couldn't handle it when the ump clapped back.
This dude went to my school, sounds about right
Catcher played it cooler than me
The ump was literally wrong, though.
@@UltimaKeyMaster the catcher walked himself into a double play by not paying attention, he is quite literally wrong. The umps only mistake was beneficial to the team, they shouldve stfu about it
@@UltimaKeyMasteryou're in half these comments defending the (clearly wrong and pretty douchey) catcher, what's the deal are you guys related
Baseball egos can be off the charts, lol, they thought the ball bounced, but it was caught, and started complaining, but then they realized a call that benefitted them was called wrong, and rubbed it in the umps face. You know the dugout knows every play that happens before the umps can say anything, so they found out real quick the ball was caught.
And all that in a sport where nobody is actually tough. I love baseball but I have a lot more respect for Hockey players with egos because they at least bite behind their bark
Narcissists get offended and argue when you don't give them an inch, even if they would benefit from just shutting up. 😂
All the weirdness of the play and it just gets even weirder cus the manager is just down to say whatever to piss the umps off
i guess i don't blame him so much for trying to back his team, that's basically his job. all his sources gave him bad info the whole time though
Sticking up for his player ... a good manager. Then letting blue know they fucked up the play! Priceless.
a rare situation where the umps did a (Relatively) great job, missing only the tag-up on 3rd base but getting every other call correct and called in real time.
Weird how arrogant the coach and players were in being wrong.
WRONG-their missing the 3rd base tag up is what screwed EVERYTHING up
I mean missing the player at 3rd tagging up was a pretty big deal. The other team was required to get three outs without only 2 remaining, AND the offense got a run that they shouldn't have.
@@cloudkitt I'd bet you'd argue in a fuckin little league game too
@@navymusician822 "their"
@@Happymouth1there’s a pretty big difference between little league and minor leagues. An extra run they shouldn’t have had is a pretty big deal. It was a confusing play, though.
Coach out here looking like somebody's drunk uncle. LMAO
To the umps credit , they DID call in real time the ball caught , and the 2 runners safe at 2nd and 1st. The Catcher wandered off 2nd and got tagged out even tho he SAW the 2B ump call him safe (he was looking at the ump) so idk what tf he was doing. And then he continued antagonizing the home plate ump (who was not involved in the play)
It does seem strange that the catcher apparently registered the out call that happened behind his back, but missed the safe call that he could have seen.
To me it looked like the runner at second saw the original flyball out and thought that was for him which is why he was walking when he got tagged.
So it's actually pretty simple. For whatever reason, he fucked up and left 2nd base. So he fucked up, got himself out in an incredibly embarrassing way, and now his team is headed to the dugout. His manager walks over to ask "WTF man" and he's only got one good excuse, and we all see it at 1:58. So he lies, says it bounced, and now that's his story and he's sticking to it. And how better to sell it than by starting even more shit with the ump back at home plate and getting your manager thrown out.
And he would have gotten away with it too! If it weren't for that medling Jomboy.
@@BarderBetterFasterStronger I've never taken an interest in a minor league player before, but I hope that catcher never makes it big. I hope he plays single A ball for ten years before finally realizing it's not in the cards, and then goes and works as a gas station attendant. Terrible sportsmanship should not be rewarded.
@BarderBetterFasterStronger it's actually a lot simpler than you make it seem. he probably saw that the runner from third didn't tag up, so he knew that if the ball didn't bounce, then that runner would be out, which is why he was confused about the run scoring, him being out, and whether or not the ball actually bounced. the point is the umpire fucked up by allowing the run to count, plain and simple
I love how the umpires got the line drive call right, the call at 2nd right, the call at 1st right, but the call at 3rd wrong.
The runners - 1st got it right by going back to the bag, 2nd got it right by going back to the bag, then got it wrong by going to 3rd, 3rd got it wrong by not tagging up.
The umps got 1 thing wrong and the players got 2 things wrong - but yeah, lets only tell the umps they F'd up
The difference is the two runners went back to the dugout and admitted to their manager that they screwed up, while the ump stands there and doubles down.
@@somejoe7777 I think it's pretty obvious with the three person system that none of them knew with certainty. But they had to make a call
The umps are there to make sure the guy at third tagged up, which he didn't. If a citizen speeds, and a cop speeds the cop has a higher standard than the
Citizen
@@Weinzierl1973 Well they fucked up and made the wrong call.
the umps are trash. come on bro.
Manager looking like Mr. Incredible makes this interaction feel like a deleted scene.
2:02 covering mouths to stop Jomboy
I think the umpires union have tradenamed it to "JB Blinder". If JB can just catch them saying that as they begin to congregate will have the proof.
Yeah and it’s not like umps even have anything to hide. They’re supposed to be clear and transparent about making the call. No need to hide, they’re not the pitching coach out at the mound or something.
I thought it was just a habit. She may have been a coach or something.
My favorite time of year on UA-cam is late May - June. Jomboy has baseball to sift through and breakdowns are coming out quick. The boys are giddy for baseball right now.
Catcher got his manager thrown out, hilarious. Wonder if he fessed up to that. Sure the ump headed to the bar for a stiff drink after the game.
He should have when they bungled that play so badly. 4 pair of eyes? Wow
If it makes anyone feel better, the catcher (number 11 for the Veleros, Columbus Clippers, Indians AAA affiliate) is Dominic Nunez. In 2457 MiLB at bats, he's hitting .236 with a .336 OBP, and a .730 OPS. In his exactly 300 at bats in the MLB, his average was .180, with a .280 OBP, and a .653 OPS. He's below average in everything and was drafted in 2013 (11 years ago). He's going no where. Just a 29 year old journeyman.
@@strange-universe My career WAR is higher.
@@strange-universe "you're not the best professional baseball player ever so you're not allowed to criticize any players"
I hate cowards like that catcher who start an argument and then act like the ump is the one holding things up. So dumb.
Bro the catcher asks him a question about the call he just made, the ump responds to him disrespectfully and tells him to shut up. This is 100% on the 2 umps that fucked up. The second base ump called an out on a safe runner and the home plate ump completely missed the guy not tagging up and they both proceeded to not admit a mistake or think they need to review it. 1 ump did his job and the others acted like 3 year olds who wont admit they did something bad
@@anthonyrusso6696 Why would you want to keep playing with shite umps? you don't understand competitive sports.
@@bender6316nah you don’t that catcher was being an asshole and got defensive
That's fucking hilarious to even start arguing. I would've been like "eh whatever, we would've had 0 and been out".
That catchers a tool, starts an argument with the ump IN THE NEXT HALF INNING (after being benefited by them missing something), and then tells the ump to get out of his face, while he's not in his face.
Catcher was right. Ump needs to be gone here... nor coach. Ump is out of hand.
@@GreatBehooveryou must be the catcher
3:32 The overlapping talk! Lip reading even when two people are cutting each other off... priceless!
"Get out of my face"
1. YOU began this interaction!
2. YOU are the one who is objectively wrong.
3. He's literally like a full 2 feet away from you!
This type really is the best kind of Jomboy video. I can do without all the other ones, but this kind is gold!
I'm just wondering where the other manager was to
argue that that run shouldn't have scored
Like Jomboy said, some people love to rub missed calls in the umpires face.
Jomboy Media is the best thing I found in 2023. Effing awesome.
Jomboy reading the BACK of their heads now
amazing lip reading, so entertaining. love these conversations
Probably the best lip reads and merry go round call.
Umps really covering their mouths like they’re not a neutral party and going to have to announce their call after the fact 🤣
No one could keep track of that in real time lol that was so confusing. Also that catcher is a complete piece of work
This is the definition of ignorance is bliss... and I love every second of it! #LOVEYOUJOMBOY
I love the lip reading that you folks do. I laugh my ass off every single time.
Im so grateful fo these channels they make it very overt the assertions of this nation
Across the sports universe, players and officials will begin covering their mouths like old school mafioso just to escape Jomboy.
JOMBOY must be using that app from Will Farrell in the movie "the other guys" because he can read lips by looking at the back of heads lol!! Strong work sir!!!
Two people weren't paying attention, and that caused the confusion. The runner at second did not look at the 2nd base ump to see that the fly ball was called out, and then again when that runner went back to 2nd base and the same ump called him safe, the runner didn't see that. Next the third base ump didn't see the runner at second not tag up. And then to cap it off, Jomboy got so excited at the beginning, he forgot to tell us who the teams were ! Anyway, lots of fun all around.
Toledo vs Columbus.
It's a AAA game so there isn't a third base umpire. There's home plate and two guys out in the field. It probaby was the home plate ump's responsibility to check that runner on third.
Just proves to you that eye-witness testimonies are always almost inaccurate all of the time. Great vid Jomboy
Umps trying to avoid being Jomboyed. Didn't work.
They definitely knew they benefited. The manager just wanted to put the ump in his place, dude was acting like he was king of the castle when he was talking to the catcher and then had the nerve to touch the manager. The ump has a god complex haha
Imagine trying to play baseball for a living and you can't even tag up on a liner lmfao where is his 3rd base coach at 😂😂😂
Went through footage of this game. It appeared from a side view of the 3rd and 1st base dugout that ball bounced. It didn’t if you watch from front view or behind. But yeah idk why he didn’t freeze on a line drive regardless
@silasbentley4433 yeah I get it as a baserunner on 3rd tough angle to see butttt lmao you always tag up especially if you're not sure if runner on 2nd goes that's on him😅
Yup. Nailed it. Go apply to be a coach. You got a gift. Such knowledge wasted here in the comments. These pro ballplayers need your help.
@@CourtsmithJames I mean tbf those are aspiring pros right there who weren't coached about baserunning growing up
@timmoore6532 They are an AAA affiliate of the Cleveland Guardians. They are definitely pros. Good middle school teams know these things. He even admitted to not tagging. They know the rules. They just made an error during a quick developing play.
What's asinine is the claim that you know better than pro atheltes on fundamental baserunning. And then make fun of them in the comments with your cute little emojis.
lol the female ump: “i’M hElPiNg”
that manager looks like an older larger version of Pat McAfee
Jomboy I f____n love you gift of lip reading and commentating simultaneously. You’re the f____n man. Plz keep ‘em comin.
Definitely gonna have to side with the umps here. They got 3 out of 4 calls right on a really confusing series of events and this coach BENEFITED from said botchery and still yells at the umps? Actually ridiculous. Same with the clown catcher too
0:19 it's so funny to me when MiLB players make the same mistakes that I do as someone who is just learning the sport... It goes to show how needlessly convoluted the rules are 😭
That should have been a triple play. No?
Already 1 out
No - look at the scoreboard upper left at the beginning - the play started with 1 out.
Obviously.
@@Weinzierl1973 ahh ok. I missed that
@@flacidhawk1 gottcha. I didn’t see the number of outs
Talk about a good ole fashion ego trip 😂
I hope it was $1 beer night
4:46 Two manly umps.. 🤣
You f_ed it up!
I love Jomboy's lip reading
The catcher and manger are in the wrong I think
The umpire that missed the appeal out at 3rd is egregiously in the wrong
Look at the Umpire squad working the game, this is a direct outcome of it
Anyone see the lady umpire
this is one of the things i love about baseball.. these weird ass plays that you need Jomboy to figure out 😂
Shouldn’t that have been a triple play?
- first out caught the ball
- second out tagged third (and runner didn’t tag)
- third out tagged the runner going to 3rd
Edit: There was 1 out already, so double play.
How can you get a triple play when there's already one out?
@@Frink108 I didn’t know there was already 1 out. Then it should have been a double play and no one scored.
@@Riclmnopp I thought there was no outs too until I saw someone mention there was already one out in the comments.
That long haired dude trying to step between the coach and the other ump 😂😂
I know people love drama and fighting, but the sport of baseball would be better without so much arguing for the sake of arguing. The way coaches get in umpires faces and just scream at them ruins the game. Everyone is so sensitive and demands unquestioning respect, but won't give a shred of it to an ump or the other team.
Put aside the crazy play and cascade of resulting calls....the Columbus "Valeros" Copa de la Diversión jerseys are awesome!
The audio mix on the conversation from L to R ear is magical Jimmy
So the manager was fuming mad because the ump pointed at his catcher? Baseball fans call umps soft all the time but the whole sport is fucking ten-ply. Just unbelievably soft.
This appears to be an International League game (Triple-A level) between the Columbus Clippers (For certain games they use the "Veleros" jerseys) affiliated with the Cleveland Guardians, and the Toledo Mud Hens which are affiliated with the Detroit Tigers.
The manager for the team who benefited from the call trolling the ump about It is so beautiful.
Ehh idk kinda goofy just drawing heat from the umps can make them do bad calls out of spite especially ump behind the catcher calling strikes, better to just keep shit peaceful tbh
I love that you cover all the leagues and not just the majors... Love your show buddy!
Wife has heard enough Jomboy to chime in at the 10 second mark ‘this is gonna be about how the umps fucked up, isn’t it?’
Gotta love jomboy breakdowns with lip reads. Gets it perfect every time. 😂
Baseball truly is America's sport. The inability/unwillingness to use technology that other sports take for granted, the dysfunctional governance, the demented hostility and lack of civility, the big money for the few.. it really reflects contemporary American society.
I tried making what Chinas sport was but I couldn't find one. I guess we'll go with snarky posts online.
Jomboy breakdowns like these single-handedly keeping the lights on
Theres no need for that language - that manager should be ashamed of himself. Moreover he needs to drop some weight before he strokes out acting so foolishly.
someone bit sensitive
@@DubhghlasMacDubhghlas Or maybe someone else a bit insensitive.
@@mirrorblue100 when people are pissed, they will cuss this common place in today's world. And if you don't like it, you are too sensitive for today's world.
@@mirrorblue100 this is common in sports. And this is fairly common for when people get pissed off is to cuss. So, no, you are the one who has an issue. More so you are only voicing complaint about it. If it was an issue more people would have. clutch your pearls elsewhere.
@@DubhghlasMacDubhghlas Go clutch your pearls about pearl-clutching elsewhere.
I love that people that don’t even know about baseball watch this for a break down absolute gold
If there is a crew consisting of Angel Hernandez, C.B. Bucknor or a woman there is a very good chance there will be fuckery.
That was the most confusing triple play that I have ever seen……great breakdown of the situation Jomboy ❤
It all makes more sense once you see the woman ump
It's like the part you can't say out loud 😉😂🤣
1:45 I think it’s funny that the umps cover their mouths like that really matters.. 😂
I'm glad to see that Mr. Incredible is enjoying his retirement by being an angry baseball coach.
These videos are the only thing that get me to actually laugh out loud with glee.
Jomboy always killing it with the narrative thank you for explaining that it can be confusing 😂
Umpires seem to be getting worse.
But why does the manager look like Mr. Incredible
I love the erditing so Jomboy is speaking both parts at the same time.
Love the voice over, brings you to the field
The person responsible for this play is the second base umpire, the home plate umpire can only assist in this play, but he did not do so, that is wrong, it is a terrible call, since it was an appeal with a live ball, and the run It should not have been scored, but the manager of the benefiting team is much more ridiculous than the play itself.
That female ump was about to forcibly remove the coach from the field against his will.