I’m just hoping that you have the old camera rolling when you break into your Foredom.. the foot pedal is why I love them. An air die grinder is loud and then you can the compressor kicking on and it’s just less peaceful and relaxed.... grinding on a cylinder should be a very relaxed and calming atmosphere...😂👍. I used a diamond drill to make the pilot holes for my buddies broken Ford pickup head bolts and my Foredom... I really like shaping stones and making jewelry too... copper then silver.. you cover up your little braze joint with the electroplating technique that’s just the reverse of removing rust... the battery charger and a positive charge and a ground.. you have to make your wife something for her birthday or Christmas... pm me your postage info and I’ll mail you a couple different pieces of stones to mess around with...? I’m really liking the nickel plating over copper... I’ve got to make up a nickel solution to try it... I’ve been wondering about fixing cylinder’s... if I could grind out the scratch or damage to the cylinder lining and then puddle up the nickel solution over the cut in the lining??? I’d like to be able to line a cylinder!
You are a very knowledgeable man tinman I love watching your videos and learning about the different aspects of porting very well done my friend keep up the good work👍🏻👌🏼👌🏼☺️
Nice it's coming along good can't wait to see it rip I use ex pipe expanders for my lathe work they work great for me it's like haveing an adjustable mandrel I have two sizes of them since I've Ben useing them I have not had to make any mandrels saves a lot of time keep up the great vids
Cannot wait until you grab a junk cylinder and start grinding with the Foredom setup... it’s a totally different world when you have massive torque and a gas pedal to control your speed while your hands are free to do the work... and with all the little attachments you can do they are just awesome tools... I cut a slit into an aluminum landscaping spike to slide my emery strips into to polish up my ports... a big nail or a big cotter pin with the eye hammered flat works great too. I found little diamond disks and you can outline a port or transfer to groove the nickasil and create your finish line so when you are running a burr up to the edges you can keep a nice line. I need to make those little cheats since the smack down as the nerve issues make my hands trimmer... LMFFAO! I’ve learned to use it... I’ve got a built in orbital sander mode on the shakey days! 😂😂👍👍. I freakin love that piston! Those are an awesome freaking slug to work up... and it’s not only gonna rip but he can actually work with it and it’s going to run great for a long time too! Beautiful piston’s! Hoping there’s a Buckin festival in the fall and that you and Harvey are there! Keep on Truckin !!!
Thanks to you Tinman I finished my first saw build base gasket deleat pop up piston, cleaned the lower transfers, and raised the exhaust roof. Didn't do any intake other than clean up runs good and strong going to try another with more squish and more exhaust timing. Thanks buddy.
A pipe on that would be dandy. Buckin likes loud pipes. I hope it’s getting warmer there. Can’t wait to see that one rip. Be kind be safe and have a day brother. 🌲❤️🌲🪓🌲🪵🌲👍🌲👊
Youre a busy guy lol... Cant wait to see more of this saw. Really appreciate all the info. Ive got a couple saws im gonna hot rod a little. Gotta get access to a lathe. With gasket delete i have .034 squish so the cylinders need help. STAY SAFE!!!
Great tips buddy you explain things so it makes sense can't wait to see her go have a good afternoon be safe TINMAN ,welcome all new COMERS congrats on the 12,000 subs
Tinmaaaaan, nicely done brother!! 👍. Information sharing on an advanced build was spot on for understanding the theory. Hats off to you again Tinman for another great series, looking forward to each and every one until Buckin gets his Tinmanized 266.. SLANT'E
Man.... I hope I'm doing that well at 71 years old! It seems to me that dwell can affect difference in duration between intake and exhaust in a machine job. The only way they could be the same is if the relationship between TDC to exhaust opening and BDC to intake opening is exactly the same. When you machine the base everything slides down. Depending how your cylinder relates to the stroke, it seems like you can move closer to or further away from them being equal.... not that equal duration matters. A super smart dude told me one time that it doesn't. ;)
Awesome I really would like to see how to make a pipe for saws. Hope you get your wood hauler going I have to do the same thing to mine. Be safe and be kind.
@@tinmanssaws the more you use it the more you fall in love with them, also you should take a poulan 42cc saw someday and see how wild you could go with it just cause theyre already a disposable saw
Hey TinMan, It’s called a dial test indicator, it measures in .0001” (ten thousandths)which can easily be split in half and may even have those 1/2 lines for just that. A regular dial indicator measures in .001” (thousandths) . And yes the old school machinists call it “the last word” the reason for this is....in the old days a sheet of paper was approx. 003” thick, so the last word would be measuring/dividing that sheet into 30 equal pieces ....well, this is what a guy I did my apprenticeship under who was a tool and die maker told me.
Good stuff man. Love the channel. Bought a 1990 226XP yesterday because of you and Buckin and Ironhorse. Can’t wait to get to work on it. Original parts are going in a box and a meteor kit and porting going on. Hoping to get it on video. If you have a good source for parts here in Canada, please hit me up.
I have a question about checking squish, would it not be more accurate to check it on the flywheel and clutch side so you are over the wrist pin. I wonder if the piston being able to rock side to side by checking it at the intake and exhaust would make enough difference to be a problem when things get hot and expand. Love your channel you have influenced me enough to try a build of my own. I have been a saw rebuilder for years, just never been brave enough to modify a saw. I was given a 359 husqvarna for some work on a trimmer so it will be my lab rat. I own several vintage saws in various states, most are on the to be repaired shelf. One a 285 husky is one I’m personally looking forward to hopefully hear run again.
Been watching a lot of Buckins channel and found you. Also just traded for a hardly used Jonsered 625 ll .. I don't need to BUT I think I'm going to do the 52mm kit for it. You know, for science!! Also ordered a popup for my 261 non M tronic. Looking to do some upgrades to a minty 020avp Stihl also. My goodness what have you all done to me?? Great info in this vid!! Thanks for sharing your knowledge!!
A lot of Chanel’s explain cutting cylinder and putting them in lathes but no one shows there set up I would like to figure out something that is semi adaptable to multiple cylinders
Noticed you are using a single ring piston just wondering what your opinion for performance between single vs 2 ring pistons. I think with my semi pro s series partner has the single but the pro p series i believe run double rings i herd with the single good for less drag but i would think the the double would help with less blow by and help keep the piston in line and less chance of the skirt slapping the cylinder wall but. But not sure myself just new to this so kind of guessing from my own thoughts lol.
Tinman: can’t you get sufficient squish simply sanding the cylinder bottom to reduce a couple thousandths? Would you need a pop up then? I’ve used wet sandpaper on glass with honing oil on 1911 pistol parts which are also very tight spec wise.
Hey buddy! Hi from Ohio. I had a question. If your machining a cylinder why not machine it down more and use a base gasket instead of Moto seal? I was curious what your thought process was. Thanks in advance and keep on trucking! 🤟
Do you find the silicone sealant lasts ok? Because doesn't petrol desolves silicone? I know it's obviously compressed inbetween the two faces but I'd imagine over time fuel air mix and vapours would seep in and degrade it. Cheers
hello tinmann just a question.are you located in ontario and do you port saws for other people or just close friends.i understand if you dont divulge where you live thank you.
I really think this is neat stuff!! Do the Stihl saws customize well too? It would be cool to have one done. Please keep the video's coming, I look forward to them. Thanks!
So cutting the squish makes the intake open sooner. Then cutting the piston skirt would make intake open even sooner? Is this specific to this saw? I'm just starting out learning to do some porting and have been following your videos. I'd want to be careful with intake timing lowering squish aswell as trimming piston skirt correct? Starting to get mind boggled lol 🙃
Yes cutting the base tightens the squish as well as lowers the cylinder and all the ports. With the ports lower the intake opens sooner as well as close later. The exhaust port will open later as well as close sooner.. If you cut the skirt shorter the intake will open sooner and close later also. Hope that helps
@@tinmanssaws awesome, cheers. Catching up on your videos after bit of a break from internet. I'm assuming that trimming the piston skirt wouldn't be an option to achieve timing numbers on a lot of saws, especially when lowering the cylinder. Great videos, cheers for the reply
How much clearance do you get to work with from the piston top to the spark plug? Cool build. I have 2 x Husky 61s now. Id like to make one of them cool.
It really depends on the year of the saws you are comparing. The last SE and the first XP are almost identical outside of the stickers. The bigger carb came along mid 84. There are at least 8 different cylinders. I have most of them and need to put the wheel on some later ones. Very large difference between an 83 saw and an 85 though.
Hey brother I got a question . Do you know whether or not I can put a 266cylinder and piston on my 262xp? The exhaust side is scored anyway I was gonna try and sand the cylinder cause it's own and put an aftermarket piston and rings in it but if I can put a 266 p/c on instead that'd be wicked, probably have to change the carb to I expect
262xp is on a smaller chassis. That chassis has the 254, 257 and 262 is the largest saw on the chassis. The 266 is on a larger chassis so i don't think that swap is possible.
@@tinmanssaws yeah I think you're correct bud I think the only other compatible top end might be the 261 I took a good look at it and notice the chassis was definitely smaller. Appreciate the reply! I know you stay busy
I bought a Bridgeport and man that things a beast.
Awesome video brother
I’m just hoping that you have the old camera rolling when you break into your Foredom.. the foot pedal is why I love them. An air die grinder is loud and then you can the compressor kicking on and it’s just less peaceful and relaxed.... grinding on a cylinder should be a very relaxed and calming atmosphere...😂👍. I used a diamond drill to make the pilot holes for my buddies broken Ford pickup head bolts and my Foredom... I really like shaping stones and making jewelry too... copper then silver.. you cover up your little braze joint with the electroplating technique that’s just the reverse of removing rust... the battery charger and a positive charge and a ground.. you have to make your wife something for her birthday or Christmas... pm me your postage info and I’ll mail you a couple different pieces of stones to mess around with...? I’m really liking the nickel plating over copper... I’ve got to make up a nickel solution to try it... I’ve been wondering about fixing cylinder’s... if I could grind out the scratch or damage to the cylinder lining and then puddle up the nickel solution over the cut in the lining??? I’d like to be able to line a cylinder!
Thanks for sharing
Hey Tinman am trying to chatch up watching you're videos. Been busy on the farm.
Looking good
I'll use jb weld in intake and transfer ports if needed to correct timing. Super clean and use holes for mechanical lock.
I like. It
I like it
Fascinating. Thanks
New description for how ported saws run “pulls chain with authority “. I love it!
Staying where you’re at makes it fun for everyone. My hobby is my escape from my job.
As always my friend. Content is fantastic🧡🤍🧡🤍🦾🦾🖤💛
Thanks Billy!!
“THE SQUISH” segment! ❤️it! Thanks Tinman....
very clever another good video thanks for sharing from deepest Wales
You do a great job explaining how and why things work. I get alot of knowledge from watching you work.💪
You are a very knowledgeable man tinman I love watching your videos and learning about the different aspects of porting very well done my friend keep up the good work👍🏻👌🏼👌🏼☺️
Nice it's coming along good can't wait to see it rip I use ex pipe expanders for my lathe work they work great for me it's like haveing an adjustable mandrel I have two sizes of them since I've Ben useing them I have not had to make any mandrels saves a lot of time keep up the great vids
You had me at “Big Carb”.
Just subscribed!
Cannot wait until you grab a junk cylinder and start grinding with the Foredom setup... it’s a totally different world when you have massive torque and a gas pedal to control your speed while your hands are free to do the work... and with all the little attachments you can do they are just awesome tools... I cut a slit into an aluminum landscaping spike to slide my emery strips into to polish up my ports... a big nail or a big cotter pin with the eye hammered flat works great too. I found little diamond disks and you can outline a port or transfer to groove the nickasil and create your finish line so when you are running a burr up to the edges you can keep a nice line. I need to make those little cheats since the smack down as the nerve issues make my hands trimmer... LMFFAO! I’ve learned to use it... I’ve got a built in orbital sander mode on the shakey days! 😂😂👍👍. I freakin love that piston! Those are an awesome freaking slug to work up... and it’s not only gonna rip but he can actually work with it and it’s going to run great for a long time too! Beautiful piston’s! Hoping there’s a Buckin festival in the fall and that you and Harvey are there! Keep on Truckin !!!
Tinman, thank you for sharing your Xperiences and your knowledge
Great info Tinman, enjoy watching you. Keep up the great video’s.
A LOT OF GREAT INFO, SHOULD BE WILD TO OPERATE
Always love machining talk! As a tool and die maker/machinist myself, it makes me smile. Also very interested in doing this to my own saws🤔
Thanks to you Tinman I finished my first saw build base gasket deleat pop up piston, cleaned the lower transfers, and raised the exhaust roof. Didn't do any intake other than clean up runs good and strong going to try another with more squish and more exhaust timing. Thanks buddy.
Right on thats great to hear!!
A pipe on that would be dandy. Buckin likes loud pipes. I hope it’s getting warmer there. Can’t wait to see that one rip. Be kind be safe and have a day brother. 🌲❤️🌲🪓🌲🪵🌲👍🌲👊
I see a key to the bush muff going on er😃
Great info Tinman! It’s awesome to see and hear the explanation of the machining process. Love learning new things. Thanks!
Always learning cool stuff on here. Thanks Tinman.
Youre a busy guy lol... Cant wait to see more of this saw. Really appreciate all the info. Ive got a couple saws im gonna hot rod a little. Gotta get access to a lathe. With gasket delete i have .034 squish so the cylinders need help. STAY SAFE!!!
Great tips buddy you explain things so it makes sense can't wait to see her go have a good afternoon be safe TINMAN ,welcome all new COMERS congrats on the 12,000 subs
Tinmaaaaan, nicely done brother!! 👍. Information sharing on an advanced build was spot on for understanding the theory. Hats off to you again Tinman for another great series, looking forward to each and every one until Buckin gets his Tinmanized 266.. SLANT'E
Looking forward to seeing this jewel in the wood it might out run the homelite you built for him! Brap,brap! 👍👍👍👍🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🙏🙏🙏🙏
Excellent Buddy. Keep up the great vids. Take Care, Stay Safe and Be Kind...
Looks like that goin b a killer saw when it's done!! Good job!!
Good info. It looks like you're ready for some sunshine and catch some UV's. Cheers buddy.
I set my squish around .020 to .025
Good to see you back tinman....
Man.... I hope I'm doing that well at 71 years old!
It seems to me that dwell can affect difference in duration between intake and exhaust in a machine job. The only way they could be the same is if the relationship between TDC to exhaust opening and BDC to intake opening is exactly the same. When you machine the base everything slides down. Depending how your cylinder relates to the stroke, it seems like you can move closer to or further away from them being equal.... not that equal duration matters. A super smart dude told me one time that it doesn't. ;)
Awesome I really would like to see how to make a pipe for saws. Hope you get your wood hauler going I have to do the same thing to mine. Be safe and be kind.
Sounds like it's going to be a great build. 🙂
great info 👍
I like it man!! That’s gonna be a sweet saw when it’s done!!
Great educational video Tinman!!!
well done next stop 20 k subs i be here
Great video Tinman ..
Hey Nicky good ro see ya
If your intake duration gets too long you can raise the floor with JB Weld epoxy.
Thank you!!!
Those foredom motors are absolutely awesome for porting, lots of torque down low lets you use long carbides without them flopping around
Yep I like mine so far
@@tinmanssaws the more you use it the more you fall in love with them, also you should take a poulan 42cc saw someday and see how wild you could go with it just cause theyre already a disposable saw
Hey TinMan, It’s called a dial test indicator, it measures in .0001” (ten thousandths)which can easily be split in half and may even have those 1/2 lines for just that. A regular dial indicator measures in .001” (thousandths) . And yes the old school machinists call it “the last word” the reason for this is....in the old days a sheet of paper was approx. 003” thick, so the last word would be measuring/dividing that sheet into 30 equal pieces ....well, this is what a guy I did my apprenticeship under who was a tool and die maker told me.
It would be cool if you could do a Partner, 55, 65 or 70. Cheers
That was great.
When you were removing the cylinder bolts I hollowed at you. "You haven't timed it yet"'. You taught me well. Ha ha.
Good stuff man. Love the channel. Bought a 1990 226XP yesterday because of you and Buckin and Ironhorse. Can’t wait to get to work on it. Original parts are going in a box and a meteor kit and porting going on. Hoping to get it on video. If you have a good source for parts here in Canada, please hit me up.
I have a question about checking squish, would it not be more accurate to check it on the flywheel and clutch side so you are over the wrist pin. I wonder if the piston being able to rock side to side by checking it at the intake and exhaust would make enough difference to be a problem when things get hot and expand. Love your channel you have influenced me enough to try a build of my own. I have been a saw rebuilder for years, just never been brave enough to modify a saw. I was given a 359 husqvarna for some work on a trimmer so it will be my lab rat. I own several vintage saws in various states, most are on the to be repaired shelf. One a 285 husky is one I’m personally looking forward to hopefully hear run again.
That will be a wood eater! Nice one!! :-)
This is gonna rip!!!!!!
This build is coming along very nicely I'm super excited to see you with the new grinding set up next vid you're building a monster tinman hahaha
Thought you where going open transfer
Been watching a lot of Buckins channel and found you. Also just traded for a hardly used Jonsered 625 ll .. I don't need to BUT I think I'm going to do the 52mm kit for it. You know, for science!! Also ordered a popup for my 261 non M tronic. Looking to do some upgrades to a minty 020avp Stihl also. My goodness what have you all done to me?? Great info in this vid!! Thanks for sharing your knowledge!!
How about a 245a Poland bud to me it's a monster
A lot of Chanel’s explain cutting cylinder and putting them in lathes but no one shows there set up I would like to figure out something that is semi adaptable to multiple cylinders
@Tinman - can you show the lathe setup?
Noticed you are using a single ring piston just wondering what your opinion for performance between single vs 2 ring pistons. I think with my semi pro s series partner has the single but the pro p series i believe run double rings i herd with the single good for less drag but i would think the the double would help with less blow by and help keep the piston in line and less chance of the skirt slapping the cylinder wall but. But not sure myself just new to this so kind of guessing from my own thoughts lol.
Tinman: can’t you get sufficient squish simply sanding the cylinder bottom to reduce a couple thousandths? Would you need a pop up then? I’ve used wet sandpaper on glass with honing oil on 1911 pistol parts which are also very tight spec wise.
She's gonna be sweeeeeet. 😁
Hey buddy! Hi from Ohio. I had a question. If your machining a cylinder why not machine it down more and use a base gasket instead of Moto seal? I was curious what your thought process was. Thanks in advance and keep on trucking! 🤟
850 next then haha!! good stuff bud
Let me know if you have time to port a 372 :)
Do you find the silicone sealant lasts ok? Because doesn't petrol desolves silicone? I know it's obviously compressed inbetween the two faces but I'd imagine over time fuel air mix and vapours would seep in and degrade it. Cheers
Tinman What can be done to a 038 magnum? I have one i would like to have beefed up if it will make good power.
hello tinmann just a question.are you located in ontario and do you port saws for other people or just close friends.i understand if you dont divulge where you live thank you.
What are you shooting for on exhaust? 102/101? Do they react similar to a 371?
What kind of lathe do you have?
I really think this is neat stuff!! Do the Stihl saws customize well too? It would be cool to have one done. Please keep the video's coming, I look forward to them. Thanks!
So cutting the squish makes the intake open sooner. Then cutting the piston skirt would make intake open even sooner? Is this specific to this saw? I'm just starting out learning to do some porting and have been following your videos. I'd want to be careful with intake timing lowering squish aswell as trimming piston skirt correct? Starting to get mind boggled lol 🙃
Yes cutting the base tightens the squish as well as lowers the cylinder and all the ports. With the ports lower the intake opens sooner as well as close later.
The exhaust port will open later as well as close sooner..
If you cut the skirt shorter the intake will open sooner and close later also.
Hope that helps
@@tinmanssaws awesome, cheers. Catching up on your videos after bit of a break from internet. I'm assuming that trimming the piston skirt wouldn't be an option to achieve timing numbers on a lot of saws, especially when lowering the cylinder.
Great videos, cheers for the reply
Did you figure with or without a base gasket ?
I rarely of ever run base gaskets.
Have you ever thought of turbocharger a chainsaw.
How much clearance do you get to work with from the piston top to the spark plug? Cool build. I have 2 x Husky 61s now. Id like to make one of them cool.
Whats the difference between the 266se and the 266xp
Se is older, xp is newer. Xp has larger carb and slightly warmer timing numbers.
It really depends on the year of the saws you are comparing. The last SE and the first XP are almost identical outside of the stickers. The bigger carb came along mid 84. There are at least 8 different cylinders. I have most of them and need to put the wheel on some later ones. Very large difference between an 83 saw and an 85 though.
@@82f100swb whats your toughs on the SG
Heated handles are always a win. Little bit of an extra weight penalty on this chassis though as heated handles came with a mag. tank, not plastic.
@@82f100swb would you say an SG for 300 Canadian be a good deal
Hey brother I got a question . Do you know whether or not I can put a 266cylinder and piston on my 262xp? The exhaust side is scored anyway I was gonna try and sand the cylinder cause it's own and put an aftermarket piston and rings in it but if I can put a 266 p/c on instead that'd be wicked, probably have to change the carb to I expect
262xp is on a smaller chassis. That chassis has the 254, 257 and 262 is the largest saw on the chassis.
The 266 is on a larger chassis so i don't think that swap is possible.
@@tinmanssaws yeah I think you're correct bud I think the only other compatible top end might be the 261 I took a good look at it and notice the chassis was definitely smaller. Appreciate the reply! I know you stay busy
Tinman, have you ported a HOMELITE Super XL?... and do you have any videos? 🪓
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Won’t that half a thou make the saw cut crooked!? 😆😉