The Secret of Ear Training

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  • The secret of ear training is in the feeling. All musical structures have a particular feeling-state associated with them which we can learn to recognize. This video outlines a practical method for gaining familiarity with recognizing THE TONIC - the most fundamental and important sound/feeling in music.
    Musical Warp Drive, my series of courses on theory and composition, is available now on Udemy! Check it out here:
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    Chapters:
    00:00 - Intro
    01:20 - The "Tonic"
    03:28 - Level 1 - Scales
    04:55 - Level 2 - Chords
    06:15 - Level 3 - Real Music
    12:56 - Final Remarks
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  • @maxkonyi
    @maxkonyi  8 місяців тому +39

    You can find the follow-up video here:
    ua-cam.com/users/liveY6BPB3Cso00?si=4QjwNmEvwsiI17y9

    • @areenashah8912
      @areenashah8912 8 місяців тому

      Loop❤😂😅o😢😢p😢😢 po😢pl😅o😢😢ooo😅😢😅😅🎉p😅

    • @user-zp6kt6ni2l
      @user-zp6kt6ni2l 3 місяці тому +1

      When you have played the scale up to the last note - say B in the C major scale - the feeling, a felt tendency, *evokes an interior image of the tonic* that you can hum, sing or play.

  • @jtonthatrack3984
    @jtonthatrack3984 8 місяців тому +538

    Lol when the note doesn’t resolve I feel ANGER

    • @maxkonyi
      @maxkonyi  8 місяців тому +47

      💢💢💢

    • @luckas221a
      @luckas221a 5 місяців тому +34

      when the note doesn't resolve I usually feel excited, lmao
      WHERE ARE WE GOING???

    • @yumeno-w-
      @yumeno-w- 5 місяців тому +3

      ​@@luckas221adats cool!! :3

    • @selimoztunc
      @selimoztunc 5 місяців тому +7

      Anger leads to suffering… 😂

    • @librasky
      @librasky 4 місяці тому +9

      When it resolves on the wrong note , it's JAZZ
      I feel like some jazz players are trying to piss me off

  • @dawnyurenwick
    @dawnyurenwick 9 місяців тому +88

    This makes me think of the episode of The Office where Andy starts singing a song about the other businesses in a building and Pam cuts him off before he can finish singing on the tonic…so he begs her to let him resolve the melody 😂

  • @joshkasen
    @joshkasen Рік тому +588

    1. Love the video. Wonderfully produced.
    2. Thank you for actually playing the final note and not leaving me with that terrible “feeling” 😅

    • @maxkonyi
      @maxkonyi  Рік тому +39

      🙌😜🙌

    • @ELLIOT8209
      @ELLIOT8209 Рік тому +14

      True. A video on tension and release would be great

    • @joshkasen
      @joshkasen Рік тому +7

      @@ELLIOT8209 Agreed!

    • @FinnDhaHuman
      @FinnDhaHuman 8 місяців тому +2

      Can ya drop what it actually is for us plebs

    • @ryancarter6876
      @ryancarter6876 8 місяців тому +5

      Same, that was the huge take away feeling, that terrible cliffhanging feeling of the note right before the tonic.
      (Pretty confusing since, it seems like he is saying that is the feeling on the tonic.)

  • @nickolawl77
    @nickolawl77 6 місяців тому +102

    As a music teacher, I always like to keep watching content from other teachers, to see if I can come up with new approaches. I've never seen this approach to ear training, and it makes so much sense. I will surely use it in my future lectures

    • @maxkonyi
      @maxkonyi  6 місяців тому +11

      Great to hear!

  • @away_5719
    @away_5719 18 днів тому +5

    Musical Blue balls is crazy, love this

  • @Lwhale.3797
    @Lwhale.3797 8 місяців тому +202

    As a singer, I’ve always felt insecure about my note / Interval / chord recognition abilities, but after being able to recognize the tonic note in all the exercises in the video, this renewed my confidence and made me want to make music moving forward. THANK YOU 🙌🙌
    Also, OMG man, you have the most transfixing eyes 👁️👁️ I have ever seen

    • @maxkonyi
      @maxkonyi  8 місяців тому +26

      That's great! So glad that this approach has been genuinely helpful for people. I appreciate the comment 🙌🏼
      ✨👀✨

  • @nikooplayer
    @nikooplayer 9 місяців тому +210

    This was probably the best course I had on ear training. Thanks.

    • @kestineniiquaye6110
      @kestineniiquaye6110 8 місяців тому +5

      I side with you!
      Easy to understand.
      You got my rest!
      👌

    • @sviborgamulin3929
      @sviborgamulin3929 8 днів тому

      @@kestineniiquaye6110 same here. Amazing work! Thank you!!

  • @yiler7683
    @yiler7683 8 місяців тому +54

    This is definitely one of the best ear training tutorials I’ve seen. It almost feels like unlocking a new superpower after watching this.

    • @maxkonyi
      @maxkonyi  8 місяців тому +1

      🗝🔓👂🏼

    • @yoavco99
      @yoavco99 8 місяців тому +2

      Agreed

  • @JAMES_III
    @JAMES_III Місяць тому +6

    Gustav Mahler's Adagietto (Symphony #5) ... The most breathtaking resolve you'll ever hear ❤

  • @PawanNandwani
    @PawanNandwani 12 днів тому +2

    Ah! This is an interesting approach - I remember studying this with my piano teacher when we went through a (terrifying) book on harmony in music. The theory of it made me stress out to such an extreme point that we eventually ended up with me ditching the book and he taught me to learn by “feeling”. Seeing a visual element added to that is fascinating! Took me back to when I was in school. Good video :)

  • @ThomasJLarsen
    @ThomasJLarsen 8 місяців тому +4

    A nice tool analyzing music in your head is the fact that about 95 - 99 % of all melodies in Western music (classic, jazz, pop, rock, anything), end on the tonic.
    Check it out (without touching an instrument if you are trained).

  • @justapieceofbread9150
    @justapieceofbread9150 8 місяців тому +23

    This was really helpful as a self taught musician. I didn't know how to improve or test my own hearing ability and i was surprised to nail the real music part! (Level three)

  • @Oxdazdndconfuzd8O
    @Oxdazdndconfuzd8O 8 місяців тому +57

    Musical Edging

  • @bobloblaw9690
    @bobloblaw9690 8 місяців тому +9

    This is why I think most people who play lots of instruments started out on drums. It speeds up the feeling process necessary to make learning scales and chords less stressful and easier to apply to your music. You can't force precision, it's a slow crawling into more fluid movement. Just like with correcting your bodies movements....no amount of adjustments, massage, nor pushing through it, or over-working will 100% fix anything, since you have to train the mind/body connection to function as one to allow free flow. The mind and body already know natural movement, it's just lost at a very early age. Music is no different of a sense to the brain. Rhythm literally opens the body up without conscious effort.

    • @maxkonyi
      @maxkonyi  8 місяців тому +3

      You make some good points there! Do you really think most multi-instrumentalists started on drums? I don't think that's been my experience with people I've met, though I haven't considered it deeply...

    • @lunarscapes6016
      @lunarscapes6016 18 днів тому +1

      @@maxkonyiI play drums as well as keyboard/piano and I’m learning guitar right now. I think the main thing about learning percussion that lends itself to learning multiple instruments is that drums are literally multiple instruments. Like I had to learn how to play marimba, which is very different from a snare drum, which is very different than a timpani, which is very different than a drumset. You essentially learn how to learn if your first instrument is drums. But I know plenty of multi-instrumentalists that have never played drums, like my girlfriend who plays guitar, bass, piano, and clarinet (I showed her drums and she was better at them her first time than anyone else I’ve seen). I definitely think ear training adds to this though, because it’s really easy for me to learn guitar because I know the order I can play notes in based on piano and I can just figure out how to do that on guitar. I don’t feel like I did a good job explaining that, but hopefully it made at least a little bit of sense.

  • @roomsey9044
    @roomsey9044 8 місяців тому +5

    Today I learned that I'm really good at tonic recognition. I do it all the time when I'm doing solos.

    • @maxkonyi
      @maxkonyi  8 місяців тому +1

      Nice! That's very fortunate

  • @vcodev108
    @vcodev108 Рік тому +35

    Thanks for revealing the secret of ear training, feeling is the main ingredient that most of the music teacher never mention, thanks for guiding us in the right track as always.

  • @eneldia85
    @eneldia85 Місяць тому +4

    Thanks for this clear explanation. Years of playing the guitar and years of vocal entonation issues. Finally I am getting there.

  • @Rvx-mv5ro
    @Rvx-mv5ro 19 днів тому +2

    brooooooooooooo
    this process will be easier for you if you are learning to sing western or classical or any type of music
    i swear to god i just needed to think in the manner that this gentleman thought us to do. but i got everything right and I can safely say its because of learning to sing in key

  • @aliceberethart
    @aliceberethart 3 місяці тому +6

    I love it when an artist and/or a composer plays something you don’t expect.
    I always expect some tonic resolution, but i love when that expectation is broken but still harmonizes.
    A pianist comes to mind, Michel Petrucciani.
    Listening to his music is a wild ride and you never know what comes next, yet it all ties together in the very very end.
    I especially like his performance of Round Mindnight.

  • @celparadise3726
    @celparadise3726 8 місяців тому +12

    This is wonderful. It's the kind of lesson a beginner should learn on day one. Most of us, unfortunately, won't do this for many years in, especially if we're self-taught.

  • @mikkudraven
    @mikkudraven 8 місяців тому +1

    Amazing video & great explanations,really helpful! Cheers for it mate 😊

  • @poj2121
    @poj2121 4 місяці тому +4

    Never realised that I have always done this naturally and since learning music theory It's been making so much sense. Feeling really is key.

  • @eviculum4518
    @eviculum4518 8 місяців тому +1

    Thank you so much for giving actual ways to practice these!

  • @spearoflonganisa2464
    @spearoflonganisa2464 9 місяців тому +2

    Incredible - had in me all along! Thanks for this Max!!!!

  • @MarsianLizard
    @MarsianLizard 8 місяців тому +1

    I didn't know I needed to see that video that much. Thank you, very eye-opening (ear-opening!) content!

  • @guscox9651
    @guscox9651 8 місяців тому +17

    Your idea of feeling is really true in my experience. I was practicing ii V I in ascending keys, but instead of doing it logically I was trying to hear the next key centre each time, then working backwards to ‘hear’ V and then ii. It’s hard but rewarding. Respect to you and anyone who gets into this.

    • @maxkonyi
      @maxkonyi  8 місяців тому +4

      Oh interesting exercise. I'll have to give it a go...

  • @lonez117
    @lonez117 8 місяців тому +1

    praise be sent to ya whole lineage, this was so helpful in understanding

  • @megamaxdevelopment9890
    @megamaxdevelopment9890 8 місяців тому +2

    Amazing video. I didn't think it could be so easy to get the tonic in a complete song.

  • @nicooteiza
    @nicooteiza 24 дні тому +1

    What a fantastic way of teaching this!

  • @gusty17
    @gusty17 8 місяців тому +2

    THE SONG YOU PLAYED SOUNDS AMAZING. Will def check out all your playlists, especially weekly productions

  • @KCdeeya
    @KCdeeya 8 днів тому +1

    the quality of this channel insane!! def subscribed

  • @wagonet
    @wagonet Місяць тому +1

    Ive never thought about music like a feel. Mind blown 😲

  • @austin9526
    @austin9526 18 днів тому +1

    this just came up on my recommended..thankkyouu universe

  • @terryhigson434
    @terryhigson434 8 місяців тому +2

    Very good advice mate, good vid. Music is all about feeling.

  • @bizzar2792
    @bizzar2792 Рік тому +2

    Did this in realtime w/ my midi keyboard. Great breakdown!

  • @ryancarter6876
    @ryancarter6876 8 місяців тому +1

    Yeah, i loved that first track you played at the ending section! it was the bassoon playing the tonic most of the time. Killer!

  • @philjames1019
    @philjames1019 13 днів тому +1

    Cool ... loving these lessons Max!!!

  • @lawrencetaylor4101
    @lawrencetaylor4101 Рік тому +6

    After my retirement I started learning the piano.
    Moi? The piano?
    I lived my whole life joking that I was born with two left ears.
    I went through 6 years of choir class where the teachers told me to move my lips and not make a noise.
    And now, I'm looking at videos like this. BTW this was one of the most surprising ear training videos I've seen. And you started by descending the scale. So the leading tone is leading us away on a journey, and not leading us back home. I've asked two piano professors what would happen if someone taught students scales by descending to start with. Would that alter their musical creativity?

    • @maxkonyi
      @maxkonyi  Рік тому +1

      Great to hear! Regarding your last question there - I don't know! Despite scales generally being taught in ascending form, humans have a great propensity towards descending melodies...

    • @allisonal
      @allisonal 8 місяців тому

      Great comment! My piano teachers always had me ascend-descend in things like scales, arpeggios, etc. I had thought about why from a mechanical sense, but I hadn’t really thought about the ear training aspect of it.

  • @olyna
    @olyna 2 місяці тому +1

    Impeccable vidéo production for a very engaging narrative.
    Always look forward for your video.

  • @Sophia_Regina
    @Sophia_Regina 8 днів тому +1

    You have a great storytelling ability. Thank you for this video

  • @bransunmitchellartist9229
    @bransunmitchellartist9229 7 місяців тому +1

    Much more palatable than most who try to explain music theory. Thank you

  • @Leviathan894
    @Leviathan894 4 місяці тому +1

    This was a really refreshing and I think approachable way to think about ear training. Also it got the listener involved and all around this was really helpful.

  • @derycktrahair8108
    @derycktrahair8108 8 місяців тому +2

    Yrs ago in an Army Band while we were having lunch, a Cornet player would stick his bell though the window & play a Maj scale from 1 to 7 & walk away laughing.
    Our reaction was always "Resolve it you Bastard".
    Music is fun when you know how to listen.

  • @billyraymyers1002
    @billyraymyers1002 29 днів тому +1

    Stumbled across this vid today and I felt compelled to say that your delivery is fantastic! These demo tracks sound amazing too, definitely going to deep diving your discog! +1 Sub

  • @jeromeweaver809
    @jeromeweaver809 Рік тому +2

    Excellent video, thank you!

  • @StevenSuarezArdila
    @StevenSuarezArdila 8 місяців тому +7

    I can't describe how much I appreciate this video! This is the best ear training I've seen so far! You're amazing! Thank you very so much!

  • @mohammadaminmemarzadeh45
    @mohammadaminmemarzadeh45 4 місяці тому +1

    Wow you are so underrated. I really needed this since many months ago that I started learning music. Please let us know how we should move forward from this.

  • @bryermusicstudio2727
    @bryermusicstudio2727 16 днів тому +1

    Thank you very much for a perspective I have not seen before and more importantly I relate to seemingly innately. Congratulations and again thank you.

  • @hervecasal8035
    @hervecasal8035 Місяць тому +1

    Wonderful !a revelation ! A great thank❤

  • @sidneycandido2917
    @sidneycandido2917 8 місяців тому +4

    Nossa, precisava muito desse video. Muito obrigado, Max. Melhores 13 minutos de teoria musical que tive nos últimos anos.

  • @japavlin
    @japavlin 6 місяців тому +1

    Awesome explanation and study examples 😊

  • @animalspirits5141
    @animalspirits5141 7 місяців тому +1

    A feeling state. The word "Tonic" might be on my mind for the rest of the day. Thank you. 😮

  • @Dooality
    @Dooality 8 місяців тому +2

    Really great way of thinking about it!

  • @kumbukanibanda9559
    @kumbukanibanda9559 29 днів тому +1

    You are the best teacher i have ever seen 🙌🙌🙌

  • @fiatlux3748
    @fiatlux3748 6 місяців тому +1

    Very good, thank you, this help me a lot.

  • @steveleeatfullmeasure
    @steveleeatfullmeasure 8 місяців тому +1

    So well presented!

  • @petroludik8116
    @petroludik8116 3 місяці тому +1

    Yes, yes yes, I got each note spot on. I just love music it is part of my soul. Thank you

  • @ilyanerad143
    @ilyanerad143 Рік тому +4

    Thanks you so much Max! Such a great teacher
    Production is also on point! Love the colors and visualization

    • @maxkonyi
      @maxkonyi  Рік тому +1

      Great to hear! Thanks 🙌

  • @StunnerShreyas
    @StunnerShreyas 6 місяців тому +1

    Thankyou so much . It will surely help to make a better choices for my music prod

  • @goldog2816
    @goldog2816 8 місяців тому +1

    Great lesson. thanks for the post ......

  • @wagonet
    @wagonet Місяць тому +1

    Can you do more videos like this? it's so good.

  • @kidkodama
    @kidkodama 8 місяців тому +22

    thoroughly enjoyed this presentation. I think I would really enjoy a sequel to this, where you go into more advanced territory. If you mastered recognizing the Tonic, where do you go from there? How do other Notes FEEL in relation to the tonic? I know there's plenty of material out there already, but if you feel like making a series out of this, it would be much appreciated!

    • @maxkonyi
      @maxkonyi  8 місяців тому +8

      Thanks! Appreciate the feedback. More videos in this series coming soon...

    • @briancleary6751
      @briancleary6751 4 місяці тому +1

      ​@@maxkonyi Can't wait for exercises beyond the tonic!

  • @mariaponomareva1242
    @mariaponomareva1242 2 місяці тому +1

    Very important things you talking about! ❤

  • @saik5307
    @saik5307 3 місяці тому +2

    Therapist: how r u feeling today?
    Me: Tonic. Yep

  • @aaryanairy756
    @aaryanairy756 3 місяці тому

    Absolutely brilliant.

  • @tonymccormick21
    @tonymccormick21 8 місяців тому +1

    A new and interesting point of view. I will certainly try it to see if it helps me learn

  • @godisgoodallthetimeman4796
    @godisgoodallthetimeman4796 Рік тому +4

    yoooooooooooooooooooooo
    thanks again for the help in discord, I honestly dont deserve to know all of this so quickyl tysm

  • @kalyanoliveira3224
    @kalyanoliveira3224 3 місяці тому +1

    The first time I actually felt a major third was like magic!Suddenly, I was able to understand the importance of hearing intervals and thinking relatively between pitches.

  • @hotpenguin607
    @hotpenguin607 7 місяців тому +1

    The thing I love about music is that it teaches me to learn to feel!

  • @drymonday6832
    @drymonday6832 3 місяці тому +2

    I learned how to play by ear and music theory from a very young age and i can say hands down it is the most important thing you can learn as a musician that will separate you from others

  • @BBsheepy
    @BBsheepy 4 місяці тому +2

    Amazing my brain automatically do that, especially when the radio stopped in the car and I will finish the note or the sound ... So cool and I have no idea... 😊 Thanks

  • @terilamarco515
    @terilamarco515 Рік тому +1

    Excellent, thank you !

  • @neftalialavez2970
    @neftalialavez2970 8 місяців тому +1

    This is the key to being able to talk through your instrument

  • @maypling
    @maypling Місяць тому +1

    i think this concept exists in language learning too. in our native tongue, we won't always be able to say exactly how we know something is gibberish, or why someone's accent doesn't sound native - we just know that it sounds 'off'. (maybe two words that should rhyme don't, or a word is unusual for a certain context, etc.) spelling as well - if it looks off we keep trying different things until it's resolved/familiar. this intuition is built somewhat passively over time as a child, but can still be achieved as an adult, especially with active learning.
    all to say, listening is super important to build a strong foundation! thanks for sharing ♥

  • @ealexanderf013
    @ealexanderf013 4 місяці тому +1

    Thank you for the videos sir you have an enormously wonderful mind 🙏🤙

  • @Whatismusic123
    @Whatismusic123 7 місяців тому +4

    This is an extremely important skill many fail to learn, even with years of experience. It's also good to watch out thay you don't confuse the tonal center, with the tonic function, as they are not the same. Many confuse tonicization for modulation due to that.

    • @maxkonyi
      @maxkonyi  7 місяців тому

      An important distinction for sure. Both leverage the same mechanism but with varying degrees of strength and permanence.

    • @isaacbeen2087
      @isaacbeen2087 7 місяців тому +1

      "atonality doesn't exist" - @Whatismusic123

  • @mondavou9408
    @mondavou9408 Місяць тому +1

    Another really solid video. My second in two days. Its a little over my head but I really think you're going to RESOLVE some musical confusion I have. 😜

  • @ericashmead4049
    @ericashmead4049 3 місяці тому +1

    Lately Ive been trying to rework the way I think about music, using functional harmony and some Barry Harris techniques. I think this is one of the main concepts to grasp, being able to feel and identify the direction of music and how each part 'relates' to its counterparts. Really cool video man!

  • @Oumaigodii
    @Oumaigodii 7 місяців тому +1

    Great video!! Thanks for the incredible content

  • @bobbyortiz
    @bobbyortiz 8 місяців тому +1

    Thanks, I needed this!

  • @annaleekornelsen
    @annaleekornelsen Рік тому +6

    Great exercise! Thanks for putting words to the feeling, Max

    • @maxkonyi
      @maxkonyi  Рік тому

      Thanks Annalee! Nice to see you here 🌞

  • @ericklorena
    @ericklorena 8 місяців тому +1

    What a great and useful video! Thanks

  • @iestynne
    @iestynne 8 місяців тому +3

    Thank you so much for making this. What a wonderful gift to young people learning to understand and create music.
    I wish my music teacher had approached teaching like this. I wasted 8 years on empty technique, learning nothing of musicality itself.

  • @IshaanNigamOfficial
    @IshaanNigamOfficial 4 місяці тому +1

    Wonderful video Max.

  • @DMT4Dinner
    @DMT4Dinner 8 місяців тому +1

    Very insightful, thank you!

  • @lavatr8322
    @lavatr8322 4 місяці тому +2

    Is that why I get shivers on certain notes , Or I get excited when listening to _For eg: HansZimmer-Man of Steel tracks_
    And this is how Films are scored right???
    I never understood how to explain to people the Way I listen to Music and Sounds.... but this is what it is...
    And i think most people just put on headphones and blast something.....
    But i truly get immersed into it.....
    its actually incredible to have that ability. To feel.

    • @maxkonyi
      @maxkonyi  4 місяці тому +1

      While getting shivers and becoming emotionally moved by the feelings of a song is definitely related to the tonic (tonality in general), there are many more factors at play. Also, beyond all the theory, some people are just more sensitive and attuned to music in general!

  • @myphistone6363
    @myphistone6363 Місяць тому +1

    What a superbe video about music ! Thank you guy !

  • @aster6000
    @aster6000 7 місяців тому +3

    Subscribed after the intro. That tickled my brain in the perfect way

  • @TheFlamingChips
    @TheFlamingChips 8 місяців тому +2

    Great video. I wished I was able to watch this as an intro to music instead of being overwhelmed with theory

  • @shazmah
    @shazmah 5 місяців тому +1

    so helpful, thank you very much

  • @martinmilan3169
    @martinmilan3169 8 місяців тому +1

    Ground breaking. Thanks a lot

  • @theonlyonimod
    @theonlyonimod 26 днів тому +1

    Well somehow I just knew that it was an E and G being played when you hit the notes 😅 Love this method!

  • @arcangel1384
    @arcangel1384 6 місяців тому +1

    Informative for sure
    music is not study music is feeling and art

  • @RafaelXavierOcc
    @RafaelXavierOcc 7 місяців тому +14

    Thats an awesome class! I'm a music teacher myself and I just feel you nailed it on explaining the basics of ear training in such little time. I loved how you bring the concept of "feelings that we label". In my personal view, everything in music theory is exactly this - names we give to specific feelings caused by specific techniques of phenomena. Congratulations, and thank you for this lesson!

    • @maxkonyi
      @maxkonyi  7 місяців тому

      Agreed! I'm glad it resonated with you as well

  • @zalinabrooks1198
    @zalinabrooks1198 3 місяці тому +1

    Thank You 🙏🏽

  • @sebastiansullivan4770
    @sebastiansullivan4770 4 місяці тому +1

    Wow. Thank you.

  • @Sayezofficial
    @Sayezofficial 8 місяців тому +1

    Amazing video, thanks for the tips

  • @BloodSavedMe
    @BloodSavedMe Рік тому +11

    Saving this for later reference Max! Thanks for all you do

  • @barbarasayas7536
    @barbarasayas7536 2 місяці тому +1

    I’ve never checked this out before, because I didn’t know it existed. I just know I’ve been doing it now that I’ve seen this video. The first example was easy for me… not sure of the second example… but it was a great experience.