How To Strip Paint From Detailed Wood Furniture

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  • In this video I am going to show you the tools and techniques I use to remove paint from detailed wood furniture. When painting and refinishing furniture, there will inevitably be a time when you going to need to strip a piece of furniture that has ornate carvings, scroll work or sculptures. Stripping detailed wood furniture can be very tedious and labor intensive work, but if you follow the steps and techniques laid out in this video, you'll find the process much easier.
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КОМЕНТАРІ • 179

  • @exploringnewhites
    @exploringnewhites 2 роки тому +66

    I appreciated that you named all the tools needed at the BEGINNING so I wasn’t scrambling to write things down while also trying to pay attention to instructions. The cut up credit card was a nice tip too!

    • @maddierose6300
      @maddierose6300 Рік тому +2

      I thought the same thing!

    • @carolineramage7480
      @carolineramage7480 4 місяці тому +1

      If you click on "more" under the heading name of the video it will take you to a description of the video, click on "more" in the description, scroll down to see a list of items from the video. All UA-cam videos are formatted like this.

  • @barbarateterus8252
    @barbarateterus8252 3 роки тому +32

    This is so helpful! Most tutorials skim over the detail work .

    • @CoastalUpcycling
      @CoastalUpcycling  3 роки тому +3

      Thank you for the kind words, I'm glad you found the information helpful, thanks for watching 😊

    • @barbarateterus8252
      @barbarateterus8252 3 роки тому +1

      I am finding the biggest problem
      In paint stripping is not the product I am using - it’s me running out of patience 🤣. I need to dedicate an area to continue working each day instead of expecting quick results

  • @brendaaltmeier5875
    @brendaaltmeier5875 Рік тому +16

    I picked up a fireplace mantle that a neighbor put out to the road. From the back I could see it was mahogany with ornate detailed designs on the side and center. The piece smelled and had a thick dark lacquer finish that was unbecoming besides making it look cheap. Your video was the one single reason I did't stop my project half way through and put it back on the roadside. I started before watching and put stripper on the whole thing. When it dried up and din't come off easy on the smooth parts I was wishing I had just painted over the whole thing. The stripper gummed up the lacquer and I knew I didn't want to paint over that. I went to UA-cam and looked for remedy for backing out of the stripper and came to your video. Watching gave me ideas for more tools as well as wrapping the ornate areas in plastic so it didn't dry out. I made it through and it is beautiful. I feel good having saved this beautiful piece of art. Thank you

    • @amandajones6481
      @amandajones6481 Рік тому

      Dear Brenda, how did you get the lacquer off the mantelpiece in the end? Did you use a different type of paint stripper or is there a specific product for getting lacquer off wood? Sorry about all the questions but I'm trying to strip the paint off a beautiful old mantelpiece that I bought for $35 from a place that sells old pieces that have been taken out of houses. The only problem is it's covered in about 50 layers of lacquer - LOL!! And I'm starting to give up on the whole project. From Amanda Jones in Melbourne, Australia ❤️

    • @cathywathy52
      @cathywathy52 2 місяці тому

      Do you have a photo of the finished mantle?

  • @sctrader151
    @sctrader151 Рік тому +19

    I am a patient man, but this is CRAZY level patience!

    • @samjoshi
      @samjoshi 27 днів тому

      $100 find; 100 hours of labor;😢

  • @chimera7521
    @chimera7521 9 місяців тому +2

    Thanks. This was very helpful. The steel wool, toothpicks and plastic was a game changer.

  • @shibalady206
    @shibalady206 2 роки тому +14

    There are so many videos out there explaining how to do this. But this one is SO MUCH BETTER! Thank you. 😊

  • @lindainla2715
    @lindainla2715 3 роки тому +15

    Really great information. Now heavily detailed pieces loaded with paint won't be so intimidating. Thanks!

    • @CoastalUpcycling
      @CoastalUpcycling  3 роки тому

      Hi Linda, thanks for the kind words, I'm so glad you found the information helpful, please let me know if you have any refinishing questions, I'd be happy to help! Thanks for watching 😊

  • @amandabhandhel1388
    @amandabhandhel1388 Рік тому +4

    I wish all UA-cam how-tos were this brilliant. Thank you so much! I'm going to have the prettiest furniture around thanks to you.

  • @craigathonian
    @craigathonian 2 роки тому +1

    The proof, as "they" say, is all in the details....and Boy, you sure know how to work those details ! This is the first video i have seen that teaches the importance of getting in there and doing the work with the importance of using so many tools. You've created such a Great Video 🏆

  • @triciatandle7139
    @triciatandle7139 2 роки тому +1

    This is wonderful. I watched a different video he made because I had an outside door that previous owner had painted a number of times without taking off the old paint. What a mess!! I tried everything, including sanding and using oven spray. His method was so much better for health of myself and the environment.

  • @robertpanetta7912
    @robertpanetta7912 3 роки тому +2

    Excellent video for this specific task. Still don’t understand how people can paint beautiful furniture. Imagine how the craftsman of this piece saw it painted.

    • @CoastalUpcycling
      @CoastalUpcycling  3 роки тому +1

      Hi Robert, thank you for the kind words...yes this was a beautiful piece. I'm glad we were able to restore it. Thank you for watching 😊

  • @Landithy
    @Landithy 2 роки тому +2

    Thanks! My house has some lovely carved detail on the widow frames that has been painted over. I'm itching to strip them back to the original timber.

  • @paulinedunlop5004
    @paulinedunlop5004 2 роки тому +1

    Your a life saver...i was working on a piece and it was a bleed-through...

  • @missmary-jane6185
    @missmary-jane6185 Рік тому +2

    Hands down your videos are brilliant & thank you for giving us so much info in a short time your the most informative out of all the videos I've been following since I've been trying to flip old furniture THANK YOU 😁🤩 Im definitely following you now!

  • @tanya5142
    @tanya5142 5 місяців тому +1

    Loved the video!! I have an old carved mirror, I will try it

  • @vickihaynes9553
    @vickihaynes9553 Рік тому +1

    Thank You thank you Finally the DETAILS and demonstration I needed to see . Great

  • @maddierose6300
    @maddierose6300 Рік тому +4

    This was an incredibly informative and helpful video! Thank you for taking the time to make it!

  • @angelacadelago
    @angelacadelago Рік тому

    I am SO glad I found this video. I was getting really frustrated with my project, but your tips really turned it around for me. Thank you!!

  • @sew1835
    @sew1835 11 місяців тому

    Thanks for explaining in detail what tools you used and the process. I am getting my nerve up to refinish a large picture frame of my grandparent's wedding picture from 1915. Hard to tell how many layers of paint is on it. Originally the oval frame looks like it is for a picture of a soldier in WW! as it has an American Eagle on top and the American flag on the bottom, but that is probably the best frame they could find at the time...and it served its purpose. THANKS AGAIN!

  • @cnieves84
    @cnieves84 Рік тому +2

    I love and appreciate the insight and instruction in this video. I intend on applying it to a new project I'd like to work on; however, would you be able to post a video on painting detailed/intricate furniture? Thanks in advance!

  • @mhortamhorta
    @mhortamhorta Рік тому

    Great video. Your voice is very pleasant, your explanations were thorough and descriptive. Keep 'em coming.

  • @phyllisboone3072
    @phyllisboone3072 3 роки тому +5

    Thanks so much the information is greatly appreciated. The stripping process is going very well. I used the stripping agent you used and very librally with plastic wrap I left it on for 3 hours and only had to use a soft towel to remove the paint.

    • @CoastalUpcycling
      @CoastalUpcycling  3 роки тому

      Hi Phyllis...I'm so very glad you found the information helpful!!! Yes, I believe the plastic wrap is the secret weapon to stripping detailed pieces. I wish you the best of luck on the remainder of your project. Thank you for watching 😊

  • @lucyferina
    @lucyferina Рік тому +1

    After one project I found that the stripper works ok for flat surfaces not so much for round or intricate. Sanding disks with a grinder, much faster and doesn’t damage the furniture, just don’t use any disk below 80 grit and keep the tool moving, then you just lightly sand with 120 grit and you are ready to finish.

  • @elettramia6380
    @elettramia6380 5 місяців тому

    Exactly what I was looking for! and thank you so much for listing the items you used in the description!

  • @sadie4538
    @sadie4538 4 місяці тому

    Very helpful information, thanks for sharing. I purchased a beautiful old dining set with ladderback and turned detail on all 6 chairs. The paint is peeling now and need refinishing. Hopefully I'll muster the patience to start this project. 😵‍💫

  • @MrSprocket2u
    @MrSprocket2u Рік тому

    Best advise on the internet ..10 out of 10

  • @Christie-gp2cy
    @Christie-gp2cy 2 роки тому +4

    Excellent video, great instructions. You have a lot of patience, as this certainly was labor intensive. The end result was just beautiful. I just subscribed and look forward to your next video. Thanks for sharing.

  • @mich6838
    @mich6838 3 роки тому +7

    Thank you! I just finished stripping a super detailed antique desk and it was a nightmare 😭

  • @happymamaof5803
    @happymamaof5803 2 роки тому +1

    This is a great tutorial, thanks so much! I have some sad carved Duncan Phyfe chairs I'm going to strip and refinish soon! :)

  • @janetdickman807
    @janetdickman807 Рік тому +1

    Thank you. I knew most of everything you said except the steel wool and skewers. I’m doing a 100 yo mantle in my home. It’s not as detailed as your beauty. I am normally a person who wants instant gratification lol. But, you’ve inspired me to take my time. Thank you.

  • @cruisysoozi
    @cruisysoozi 2 роки тому +1

    This is so helpful, thank you. Now have the skills to sort out my paint / wood issue :)

  • @escubasteve
    @escubasteve 2 роки тому +2

    Great thorough tutorial

  • @belindareay3264
    @belindareay3264 2 роки тому +5

    Beautiful! Big thanks for this!

  • @MissMustang98
    @MissMustang98 3 роки тому +4

    Thanks so much for this. I'm hoping to strip my solid wood, carved front door (from 1936). There are cracks, but I'm hoping to fill them with turquoise or gold resin (similar to how the Japanese repair broken things with gold fill). I'm in teh southwest so I thought turquoise against the stained natural wood would look fitting. Excited to get started now after seeing this. :)

    • @CoastalUpcycling
      @CoastalUpcycling  3 роки тому +1

      Wow!!! That sounds awesome...please send pictures of that door, I've never seen anything like it. I'm glad you found the information helpful, thank you for watching 😊

  • @LinaSotelo-z8m
    @LinaSotelo-z8m 9 місяців тому

    Thanks for the step by step
    And names of all tools

  • @lfuentes4098
    @lfuentes4098 3 роки тому +6

    New sub. Great video. I tried this before I saw this video but unfortunately I used sharp metal tools(suggested on another video-metal scrapers and dental tools). Not the best idea when you get frustrated. 😆 I ended up with gouge marks. I didn’t realize chemical stripper softens the wood so you need to be more careful. Hopefully I can still salvage it. Now I’m not sure what to do with the piece. It was always painted so it has a white haze but it’s two tones of wood veneer. Maybe you can show us how to repair or camouflage gouges or defects in the wood?

    • @CoastalUpcycling
      @CoastalUpcycling  3 роки тому +9

      Yes, unfortunately the stripping process moistens the wood fibers so much that they become susceptible to damage easily. Stick with plastic or wood tools only, and even then you'll still need to be careful not to damage the wood. As for removing gouges, a good trick I learned is this: Grab a regular, household clothes iron. Next get a clean rag or towel. Wet the gouge with water and place the rag over that, then apply the iron (on its highest setting) to the rag. You'll hear the sizzle of the water making steam. That steam will make the crushed wood fibers of the gouge swell and expand, thus eliminating the gouge! Pretty cool trick huh? Just don't leave the iron on too long, if it's a veneered area, it could cause the veneer to come up. Hope this helps, thanks for watching 😊

  • @resellrescue4941
    @resellrescue4941 3 роки тому +2

    That's a gorgeous piece. Thank you for the tips.

    • @CoastalUpcycling
      @CoastalUpcycling  3 роки тому +1

      Hello Resell Rescue, thank you for the kind words, I'm glad you enjoyed the video, thanks for watching 😊

  • @theriverbend
    @theriverbend Рік тому

    Great video, the cut up credit cards is a great idea.

  • @kdrummond449
    @kdrummond449 Рік тому

    Wow! Turned out gorgeous!!

  • @pavelow235
    @pavelow235 3 роки тому +1

    Preserving history, nice.

    • @CoastalUpcycling
      @CoastalUpcycling  3 роки тому

      Thank you for the kind words. Thanks for watching 😊

  • @rainbowzappa1440
    @rainbowzappa1440 Рік тому +1

    Great job! I wonder how it would look with the original dark wood top and the rest creme as it already was. The contrast would have been interesting and it would be less work🙂. Call me lazy…

  • @rockshot100
    @rockshot100 3 роки тому +1

    Wow, and great honest, informative vid. I like how you said you forgot about it and left it overnight, LOL, then told how to remedy it. They say the citristrip sold now is not as good, any opinions?
    One thing I did not know. Somebody told me to unroll your steel wool first thing. I was shocked to see what a difference this makes, it is like getting 3X as much, and I don't know why. All I can say is try it, let me know what you think and WHY this is true? It's a pretty crazy thing.

    • @CoastalUpcycling
      @CoastalUpcycling  3 роки тому +2

      Hi Rockshot100, yes I agree, they had changed the formula to citristrip once before...the "good stuff" had a more pastel, sherbet looking color. Then a version came out that may more translucent and gel like. This didn't work as well. I think they were trying to make the formula not dry out as quickly, but they diluted the stuff to the point of ineffective. Since then, I think they found a happy medium and the citristrip works much better now.
      Yes I will try the steel wool trick, it sounds like a good idea. Thanks for comments and suggestions, thank you for watching 😊

    • @rockshot100
      @rockshot100 3 роки тому

      @@CoastalUpcycling Thanks for clearing that up, I am using it on just a varnished chair and it works pretty good.

  • @lizhoward9754
    @lizhoward9754 3 роки тому +1

    You are a great teacher!

    • @CoastalUpcycling
      @CoastalUpcycling  3 роки тому

      Thank you for the kind words 😊...I'm glad you enjoyed the video, thanks for watching 👍

  • @LongLiveCrypto
    @LongLiveCrypto 2 роки тому +5

    "You're going to need a toothbrush... any character will do." Thanks for the laugh :)

  • @lindatorres7003
    @lindatorres7003 9 місяців тому

    Thank you for all the tips

  • @gamingwitheze8164
    @gamingwitheze8164 3 роки тому +3

    Thank you this was so helpful!!!!

    • @CoastalUpcycling
      @CoastalUpcycling  3 роки тому

      Thank you for the kind words, I'm so glad you found the information helpful, thanks for watching 😊

  • @nathanielkswas
    @nathanielkswas 6 місяців тому +1

    PHEW. So glad I can use my Green Lantern toothbrush 💪

  • @sunkissed4261
    @sunkissed4261 Рік тому +1

    I wish there was a stripper where you could appy then spray off w/water. Instead of all the scraping,picking etc. I'm currently working on stripping a wooden applique. It's definitely a labor of love redoing a piece back to It's original glory.

  • @cathywathy52
    @cathywathy52 2 місяці тому

    It's great that he uses scrap or junk as tools like old store bags and credit cards

  • @nellymensah7319
    @nellymensah7319 2 роки тому +1

    so helpful! can you share if the stripper and spirits would damage any brass detailing on the furniture piece?

  • @caitlynnlancaster2851
    @caitlynnlancaster2851 Рік тому

    So helpful and to the point!!!

  • @cadensweet155
    @cadensweet155 Рік тому +2

    How long did it take the piece to dry after you finished cleaning it?

  • @1CelloOne
    @1CelloOne Рік тому

    Thank you! I just got stuck with the process - forgot to pick up mineral spirits 😂

  • @jackieheathcote976
    @jackieheathcote976 4 місяці тому

    Absolutely brilliant…

  • @danielavalle4497
    @danielavalle4497 2 роки тому +1

    What an amazing video!!! ❤
    I have a table top that has lots of scratches where the polyurethane is stuck. I already sanded the table top and most of the poly is gone, but I’m unable to remove the scratched up poly. Do you recommend using the citi strip in those areas? I really think I’m going to give it a try!
    Thank you kindly!

  • @tryingoutgravity
    @tryingoutgravity 3 роки тому +1

    Turned out beautiful!

    • @CoastalUpcycling
      @CoastalUpcycling  3 роки тому

      Thank you for the kind words...thanks for watching 😊

  • @inuyashafreakforever
    @inuyashafreakforever Рік тому +2

    I wish I had been smart enough to watch this before I started peeling away at my make up desk from the 40s

  • @pauldowdymd4404
    @pauldowdymd4404 2 роки тому +1

    Thanks for the great info!!! Did you restain this or just left it as is?

  • @amukaul
    @amukaul Рік тому

    What did you end up doing with this piece once it was cleaned up? I'd love to see the finished product. Can we get a video on how you restore carved furniture?

  • @denam3
    @denam3 Рік тому

    Thank you for posting this

  • @julieeakins5338
    @julieeakins5338 3 роки тому +1

    Great information as always

    • @CoastalUpcycling
      @CoastalUpcycling  3 роки тому

      Thank you for the kind words. I'm glad you found it helpful, thanks for watching 😊

  • @marcuse.9522
    @marcuse.9522 3 роки тому +1

    I know its pandemic and a lot of people are bored their mind but geee.. lol. Awesome video btw. )

  • @punchymuffin6402
    @punchymuffin6402 11 місяців тому

    Wow! You got ALL the paint off!

  • @xthatwhiteguyx
    @xthatwhiteguyx 2 роки тому +1

    Would a waterpik flosser be powerful enough to clean out the crannies (after paint stripper)?

  • @dwrod24
    @dwrod24 2 роки тому

    Perfect video… I appreciate it

  • @TheAnnieSisters
    @TheAnnieSisters 2 роки тому

    Great video thank you

  • @deniamassetti9991
    @deniamassetti9991 4 місяці тому

    Thank you

  • @shabbytwo1787
    @shabbytwo1787 2 роки тому

    The video I needed .. thanks

  • @stephaniehebbard2076
    @stephaniehebbard2076 Рік тому

    Great video.

  • @chadbillings8375
    @chadbillings8375 2 роки тому

    Awesome! Thank you!

  • @themanwhosoldtheworld2125
    @themanwhosoldtheworld2125 Рік тому +1

    I'd already be done with that entire piece by the time he finished that corner. Also, try epoxy remover instead.

  • @DS-qw1tp
    @DS-qw1tp 2 роки тому

    This was great, thanks!

  • @truenorthconstrictorscanad5315
    @truenorthconstrictorscanad5315 2 роки тому +1

    Would you be able to just add stripper than pressure wash all the crap off?

  • @led6244
    @led6244 2 роки тому +1

    Thanks so much for your info, I’ve got a huge armoire that’s late 1800’s early 1900’s and it’s incredibly carved all over the front doors, I’ve been using Citristrip- would oven cleaner be a good tool
    As well? Ir will it dry it out too much?
    I want to bleach it then go over the carvings with a dark stain to highlight the beautiful details, or just condition it and seal it. Ty

  • @beanthefaery23
    @beanthefaery23 5 місяців тому

    Ive been doing all these steps on my first project I was just kinda guessing I was hoping there was an easier way 😭 it’s SOOOO tedious

  • @Stephen_Strange
    @Stephen_Strange 11 місяців тому

    Thank you !

  • @donnac7587
    @donnac7587 3 роки тому

    Thanks alot!! Love your to the point

    • @CoastalUpcycling
      @CoastalUpcycling  3 роки тому

      Hi Donna, thanks for the kind words, I'm glad you found the video helpful, thank you for watching 😊

  • @nspinicelli
    @nspinicelli 3 роки тому

    I started using that chemical stripper on an Ethan Allen dining set, let me tell you sceeeeew that.
    I’m now looking for a sanding disc solution. Chemical stripping was too much work.

  • @trkx444
    @trkx444 Рік тому

    Thanks for this helpful video. Does this approach work if I want to strip a clear varnish finish [instead of paint]? I have a piece of sculpture finished in a clear varnish.

  • @juliacastellanos7764
    @juliacastellanos7764 20 днів тому

    Thankyou!!

  • @lazygardens
    @lazygardens Рік тому

    Have you considered using "soda blasting" - like sand blasting but more gentle.

  • @jessicaparadis9417
    @jessicaparadis9417 2 роки тому +1

    Hello! What would you use for dentil molding on wood furniture?

  • @mervimalmberg42
    @mervimalmberg42 3 місяці тому

    Thank you very mutsh😊

  • @google-is-invasive
    @google-is-invasive Рік тому

    If I have some bare wood, will the Citrustrip ruin it? I've got a few legs with varnish that's at least 70yrs old on it, and want to pull the stain off too to reveal the nice maple wood underneath. If I *need* to, I'll just hand sand it. But one leg has taken me a good 2 hours and I ain't even close to done 😮‍💨

  • @Anna-Leigh77
    @Anna-Leigh77 Рік тому

    id love to know how to strip varnish is it the same process? and also im doing in on an old baroque sofa, so need to preserve the fabric which I will be keeping do you have any videos on this?

  • @andreamarais7311
    @andreamarais7311 2 місяці тому

    If you use mineral spirits, does it leave an oily finish? If you want to re-paint it, wouldn't it prevent the paint or finish from adhering to it?

  • @brendankincaid2743
    @brendankincaid2743 Рік тому

    Love this

  • @tinaknutsen
    @tinaknutsen 2 роки тому

    Coastal Upcycling;
    Just watched your video…I already purchased Stypeeze…does it work the same way as the citrastrip that you used ? ? ?
    My dresser has intricate designs and old paint like your piece of furniture. Thank you for the tips with what tools to use.

  • @Secondact.design
    @Secondact.design 5 місяців тому

    I have an old piece that was painted I have stripped it all back and it looked great under the paint it was Black Walnut veneer I used water to check the grain it looked amazing. I then stained it and thats when I could see the white paint in a lot of the grain, is there a solution to remove the paint out of the grain now that I have oiled based stain on it?

  • @tiffanysupertzi3084
    @tiffanysupertzi3084 4 місяці тому

    How do you remove the paint remover? I’m not sure I saw how you got the sticky. Citristrip off?

  • @Annie261.
    @Annie261. 2 роки тому

    CitrusStrip has changed their formula. Very gummy and sticky now!

  • @patriciaharris7479
    @patriciaharris7479 3 роки тому

    thanks for the helpful video
    have you ever worked with a detailed camphor trunk from china
    Can you use the stripper on camphor

  • @francesco3207
    @francesco3207 8 місяців тому +2

    I was 27 when I started this and I'm now 72

  • @dianer5300
    @dianer5300 Рік тому

    I've read that citristrip darkens the wood and that QCS is the best; what do you think?

  • @shawnh5711
    @shawnh5711 Місяць тому

    I have a old wooden desk with a few hard to reach corners and I'm at wits end getting into the corners and the hard to reach areas. Is a heat gun ok to use on a wooden desk after trying the orange and mineral spirits after they dry? Don't want to scorch the wood etc

  • @lesschoolaccount
    @lesschoolaccount 8 місяців тому

    What's the best way to remove all the gunk (citrastrip, mineral spirits) once that's on? I find it hard to get every last bit off

  • @JohnDoe009
    @JohnDoe009 Рік тому

    I have a bench that I painted and clear coated…will the stripper work on the clear coat polyurethane?

  • @lindataylor521
    @lindataylor521 3 роки тому +1

    Hi could you use a Dremel drill for detailed carvings? Any advice would be great thanks

    • @CoastalUpcycling
      @CoastalUpcycling  3 роки тому +1

      Hi Linda, yes you can use a Dremel tool with a wire brush attachment...I would use caution, as the metal bristles and the power of the Dremel can wear away the details of your carvings. Make sure the wood is thoroughly dry before using and only use the lightest touch. Hope this helps, if you have any other questions, please don't hesitate to ask, I'll be glad to help where I can 👍...thanks for watching 😊

  • @justinwilliams707
    @justinwilliams707 21 день тому

    Maybe a dumb question but would a power washer work?

  • @dohaali8758
    @dohaali8758 5 місяців тому

    If I have a dresser that is really old but I have no idea what type of wood it is and it has a heavy coat of varnish on it do I do this step or just paint over it