Cera is a high hp medium sized brawler, due to its 2700 combat weight its pretty prone to higher, heavier dmg types. Also conclude its poor bleed and venom heal
The problem is that Alderon wants to make POT a dinosaur MMO style game and not a realistic style game. So there is always going to be balance issues. If they made it more realistic, for example: a Ceratosaurus wouldn't and shouldn't try to attack a Rex, since a Rex realistically could one-shot it, but since POT is more of an MMO there has to be a level of "fairness" to the combat. I love this game, but I wish it was more realistic and not so filled with mod slop. Hope it gets better in the future.
I remember they said they were aiming for realism, but when people noticed the bias they had for certain dinos and asked about the balancing issues they said they decided not to focus on realism.
Apexs in pot dont feel like apexes things like dasp cant mess up a apex and all mid tiers are too tanky against apexs and it doesnt help how there is always atleast 3 mid tiers against one apex
@@dunit911 deino is probably getting a tlc very soon with these changes. Just like iguanodon got nerfs before its tlc. I would just suggest being patient and seeing where they go with it. This is the *testing* branch after all. None of this has even been added to the main game yet.
Hopefully future updates make sense of it but it’s still unfortunate that they balance this way where some things power creep by leaps and then they slowly catch everything back up.
@ also in my experience on officials, Cera will get his face shoved in still from most tlc’d dinos. Especially Iggy. So thats why I hope eventually things get better. Just maybe.
And then you have Alioramus with 2100 combat weight and 475 health. It’s twice the size of Cerato lmao. Like I get it’s a little skinnier but still, it’s as tall and almost as long as allo, it should have 3000-3100 weight for it to be viable
@@-Clutch- Thanks for pointing out the obvious bro. I’m saying that it should be as fragile and brittle anymore, it needs a buff. And it doesn’t do a ton of damage per second, it does average damage with a normal attack speed, but since it’s combat weight is so low it actually deals less damage to things it’s size or bigger. And who cares if it isn’t as muscular, it’s a game and doesn’t need to be 100% realistic, Alio needs a buff to be viable
It’s probably gonna get a tlc. It’s abilities along with deinocheirus’ are changed quite a bit on the ptb and seeing how other tlc’s have come along recently this is probably the start of those 2 being the next tlcs.
Seems that theyre bridging the gap between apexes and the rest of the roster. I remember when all of the apexes except for duck and eo were 7000 cw when I first started playing this game, now only rex and spino are above 6k. I wont be surprised if they nerf both rex and spino for their tlcs to 5500 cw or even less. Especially Spino since it is the duck’s rival and now the duck is sitting at 4.5k cw, basically semi apex tier.
He’s probably getting a tlc soon too. I’d just suggest ya’ll see where they’re going with this before losing or gaining too much hope. It hasn’t even been released to the main game yet.
@@-Clutch-tlc as in a full model overhaul and new abilities. Either way whatever upgrades it gets, at this point any upgrades to one creature is a tlc I guess.
@Zilla-raptor7tlc doesn’t always mean a buff to be fair, and cerato was lacking in the ability apartment before a bit. I agree some other creatures kinda needed priority over things like cera and pachy though
Tbh i do agree that everything is unbalanced, but im just gonna hope that they either nerf everything to make it equal or buff everything to make it equal I also find it sorta petty how mad people get over a couple of changes that will most likely change in the next month or 2 (not you, of course)
@zagyz1675 I agree and disagree because half the time you'd only use balance or speed and them there wasn't a need for defense whereas now we have more variety but I do understand where your coming from
900 health yet low combat weight. They did that with metri. Metri has more hp than sarco. Yet lower cw. AND IF THE SPINO HAS MORE CW THAN THE DUCK SPINO FOES MORE DMG
Cera isn’t really that op as they’re still a really big trade up but I really don’t like what they’re doing with sucho and duck sucho is now weaker than a allo like what ? Will that mean they’re gonna make allo even weaker ? Like I’m so confused and concerned
Cerato is balanced with 900 health since it doesn’t do much dmg anymore after the charge bite change to do fracture instead of pure dmg and after the thrash cooldown increased to 15 seconds
I can’t with these stupid pot changes I don’t want to hate on this game but they keep doing stupid things over and over again they also might as well remove pounce for achilio they were already a limited amount of Dinos it would pounce now theirs even less
Sucho imo is the perfect solo player Dino, it’s perfect the way it is and not to mentioned its huge ( I believe slightly bigger than allo) why are they tryna change the combat it makes zero sense I genuinely feel like they don’t know what there doing when it comes to balancing look at bars for example…
Confused why duck is getting those changes? It can’t even hold its own against fellow apex’s and boom nerf? I get hp increase but wtf is that combat weight decrease😢
Its simple really big dinosaurs should be balanced with big dinosaurs and smaller dinosaurs with smaller dinosaurs maby instead of combat weight being these random nunbers just make them the current understood weight of the animal and give apexes 1,000-1,200 hp sub-apexes 700-900 hp mid tiers 400-600 hp and smalls 100-300 hp its really that freaking simple and you could have a balanced viable ecosystem
To be fair styra could run down and easily kill things like cera and other creatures which, with how strong styra was is kinda stupid. Plus its insanely good turn rate. Dude turns better than cerato lol
Sucho average weight was like 2.5 too 3.8 metric tons, it shouldn't have been a sudo apex to begin with, dasp was 1.8 to 3.8 metric tons, dasp shoulda been the sudo apex or maybe allo(even though irl it weighs less but in game the allo is heavily exaggeratied to fit with game) but sucho, i hope thy just give allo a tlc, also you sound like an idiot saying that pachy and cerat didn't get a tlc, tlc and remodel are very different, usually a tlc is a minor change while remodel is usually a complete change
Tlc doesn't mean it alway changes the looks of something it means to update, patch up something in a game it has alot of new abilities that is a tlc the cera tlc is exactly what a tlc is
The game isn’t meant to have realistic stats,there’s always unbalanced stats in games that’s OP but u can still kill a cera it’s all skill and good builds
What is this Rubbish? Suchomimus was a absolute massive dino now they are making it on par with Dasp? Under Spinosaurus, sucho was realistically the second biggest spinisaurid to my knowledge so surely they can't be adding another spinosaur.
you know a tlc and a remodel are two different things right? a tlc is usually a small model tweak and the main focus is on abilities. So when you say "not really a tlc" you are kind of just sounding like an idiot
Yes his health is pretty high but his combat weight is lower than in apex so its fairly balanced Plus the fact that soon The other dinos will have TLCs
And Plus PoT is still in its Beta stage, many dinosaurs are having stat reworks to see what fits best. we have to be patient with the devs they are doing the best they can.
You know if you don’t like the dinosaurs or the game. You could just oh I don’t know… not play it. Or just enjoy the game. It’s a game. Games are for fun. If you don’t like it, go play something else you actually enjoy. It’s not that bad of a game. It’s a fun game if you go into it with the mentality of wanting to enjoy yourself.
That's such a BS response to say. " If you don't like it, don't play it. " Dude, if I didn't like the game I wouldn't have bought the damn thing. We are allowed to disagree with certain changes and still play the game, you know. It's called constructive criticism and nothing will ever improve if the devs keep feeding off toxic positivity like your comment.
Forgot to mention Ceratos base health is 700 but you can get up to 900. With one of the abilitys.
With the caveat of double incoming status damage
Yes
@@ggplayz1000 Cera still gets walked on by allot of dinos even with it's more health. It's not that big of a deal.
yea im not the biggest fan of how they changed cerato, they should have kept kick
Abilitys
Cera is a high hp medium sized brawler, due to its 2700 combat weight its pretty prone to higher, heavier dmg types. Also conclude its poor bleed and venom heal
Also conclude that allo is now heavier than sucho 3500/4000 (new sucho nerf to base allo)
People don’t understand that it does way less damage now
Yeah Cera gets walked on even with its big health pool easy.
The problem is that Alderon wants to make POT a dinosaur MMO style game and not a realistic style game. So there is always going to be balance issues. If they made it more realistic, for example: a Ceratosaurus wouldn't and shouldn't try to attack a Rex, since a Rex realistically could one-shot it, but since POT is more of an MMO there has to be a level of "fairness" to the combat. I love this game, but I wish it was more realistic and not so filled with mod slop. Hope it gets better in the future.
lmao that is NOT an excuse to horrible balancing at all
@@BETjurassicAN agreed, way too Arcady
That sums it up perfectly
I remember they said they were aiming for realism, but when people noticed the bias they had for certain dinos and asked about the balancing issues they said they decided not to focus on realism.
This is why only their stupid mods is what's keeping the game alive. No wonder I'm moving on to the Isle Evrima in the future.
Apexs in pot dont feel like apexes things like dasp cant mess up a apex and all mid tiers are too tanky against apexs and it doesnt help how there is always atleast 3 mid tiers against one apex
Than buff the apexes 💀
@@skullhead289 that is the only thing I agree with and people say "skill issues"
@@Oppositebreack2 not really skill issue if you CANNOT hit your opponent.
@ i can get a hit but the turning is slow and my opponent is to fast
nowhere in the ptb changelog did i see the sucho nerfs where did you find this info
Go in too ptb testing branch.
on the pot website or discord?
Servers. I don't think theirs anymore testing branchs but they were where you would find pot Servers.
They didn’t mention a lot of stuff in the ptb patch notes that were actually in the ptb
they do this all the time, its usually up to the community to find this stuff
whats the point of nerfing deinochirus were people really asking for that?
Nope
Exactly. Nobody is asking for it.
@@ggplayz1000deinocheirus really needed a buff cw to like 6.5k not down to 4.6k it should be no less than 6k
@@dunit911 deino is probably getting a tlc very soon with these changes. Just like iguanodon got nerfs before its tlc. I would just suggest being patient and seeing where they go with it. This is the *testing* branch after all. None of this has even been added to the main game yet.
@InfernadragogamingNah, it’s good already. But the PTB branch nerf is cringe.
Stop nerfing things, just keep buffing things.
Hopefully future updates make sense of it but it’s still unfortunate that they balance this way where some things power creep by leaps and then they slowly catch everything back up.
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@ also in my experience on officials, Cera will get his face shoved in still from most tlc’d dinos. Especially Iggy. So thats why I hope eventually things get better. Just maybe.
Hopefully they’re cooking up a good overhaul on the games stats as a whole but I have doubts
And then you have Alioramus with 2100 combat weight and 475 health. It’s twice the size of Cerato lmao. Like I get it’s a little skinnier but still, it’s as tall and almost as long as allo, it should have 3000-3100 weight for it to be viable
It’s fragile and brittle that’s why it’s lighter, plus it has little muscle. it ain’t meant to be stronger it already does mad damage per second
@@-Clutch- Thanks for pointing out the obvious bro. I’m saying that it should be as fragile and brittle anymore, it needs a buff. And it doesn’t do a ton of damage per second, it does average damage with a normal attack speed, but since it’s combat weight is so low it actually deals less damage to things it’s size or bigger. And who cares if it isn’t as muscular, it’s a game and doesn’t need to be 100% realistic, Alio needs a buff to be viable
I really hope a sucho nerf doesn’t happen. If it’s not broke, it’s pointless to fix it. People like it as it is
It’s probably gonna get a tlc. It’s abilities along with deinocheirus’ are changed quite a bit on the ptb and seeing how other tlc’s have come along recently this is probably the start of those 2 being the next tlcs.
Seems that theyre bridging the gap between apexes and the rest of the roster. I remember when all of the apexes except for duck and eo were 7000 cw when I first started playing this game, now only rex and spino are above 6k.
I wont be surprised if they nerf both rex and spino for their tlcs to 5500 cw or even less. Especially Spino since it is the duck’s rival and now the duck is sitting at 4.5k cw, basically semi apex tier.
Sucho was my main
Now i am not happy 😢
I want spino or meg to get tlc cerato doesn’t need one in my opinion it’s too op
@Zilla-raptor7nah spino doesn’t need a tlc it just needs some upgrades, can do that without a tlc. :/
Its strong enough just needs better attacks
He’s probably getting a tlc soon too. I’d just suggest ya’ll see where they’re going with this before losing or gaining too much hope. It hasn’t even been released to the main game yet.
@@-Clutch-tlc as in a full model overhaul and new abilities. Either way whatever upgrades it gets, at this point any upgrades to one creature is a tlc I guess.
@Zilla-raptor7tlc doesn’t always mean a buff to be fair, and cerato was lacking in the ability apartment before a bit. I agree some other creatures kinda needed priority over things like cera and pachy though
Might as well rebrand sucho to baryonyx. I wouldn’t mind
Fr I like bary more
I’m just surprised they didn’t buff the anky again. The mf is a mmo boss
@@damefame8921 ye but the good thing about some anky players is that they kinda dum since it requires no skill
PoT probably gonna try new overhaul new standards to all rosters. AKA the great Reset
Maybe
This is why next month when I get a pc for my birthday ima make my own game
Tbh i do agree that everything is unbalanced, but im just gonna hope that they either nerf everything to make it equal or buff everything to make it equal
I also find it sorta petty how mad people get over a couple of changes that will most likely change in the next month or 2 (not you, of course)
@@niallfurlong5577 tbh just bring back speed defense and balance subs. Game was peak then
@zagyz1675 I agree and disagree because half the time you'd only use balance or speed and them there wasn't a need for defense whereas now we have more variety but I do understand where your coming from
Chamge? Gonna start making random words now
@AKayani559 jeez it's one mistake that people do all the time and besides I'm just saying about my opinion
@AKayani559 there is that better?
Not sucho 🙏
Was inevitable. Sucho was a baby apex and ridiculously strong
900 health yet low combat weight. They did that with metri. Metri has more hp than sarco. Yet lower cw. AND IF THE SPINO HAS MORE CW THAN THE DUCK SPINO FOES MORE DMG
Cera isn’t really that op as they’re still a really big trade up but I really don’t like what they’re doing with sucho and duck sucho is now weaker than a allo like what ? Will that mean they’re gonna make allo even weaker ? Like I’m so confused and concerned
Cerato is balanced with 900 health since it doesn’t do much dmg anymore after the charge bite change to do fracture instead of pure dmg and after the thrash cooldown increased to 15 seconds
imo the only reason this game is still alive is due to community servers and single player without those this game is dead
Not really. I personally enjoy official servers, it’s just the mega groups that ruin it mostly
False
Where did they post these changes?
I ask for laten to be moved from 1050 to 1100 and I’m called insane but 1100 SUCHO?
Oh hey, my buddy indo
I can’t with these stupid pot changes I don’t want to hate on this game but they keep doing stupid things over and over again they also might as well remove pounce for achilio they were already a limited amount of Dinos it would pounce now theirs even less
Why they keep nerfing stuff while there still op dinos like Dasp and Spino??
Suchomimus is 4-5 ton tarbosaurus sized animal. Whats point of decreasing its cw to mid tiers?
Does path have a discord or channel we can voice our opinions on these things?
Am i the only one who thought the tail attack changes were unnecessary
Sucho imo is the perfect solo player Dino, it’s perfect the way it is and not to mentioned its huge ( I believe slightly bigger than allo) why are they tryna change the combat it makes zero sense I genuinely feel like they don’t know what there doing when it comes to balancing look at bars for example…
Why they nerfing sucho and duck? 😢 I feel like these changes wont come to live, fingers crossed.
Confused why duck is getting those changes? It can’t even hold its own against fellow apex’s and boom nerf? I get hp increase but wtf is that combat weight decrease😢
Its simple really big dinosaurs should be balanced with big dinosaurs and smaller dinosaurs with smaller dinosaurs maby instead of combat weight being these random nunbers just make them the current understood weight of the animal and give apexes 1,000-1,200 hp sub-apexes 700-900 hp mid tiers 400-600 hp and smalls 100-300 hp its really that freaking simple and you could have a balanced viable ecosystem
They did it to styra, now they’re messing my boy sucho too bruh, this game just like why, styra and sucho were great the way they were bro
To be fair styra could run down and easily kill things like cera and other creatures which, with how strong styra was is kinda stupid. Plus its insanely good turn rate. Dude turns better than cerato lol
I agree with u this time about the duck and sucho changes those were rly bad choices
Sucho average weight was like 2.5 too 3.8 metric tons, it shouldn't have been a sudo apex to begin with, dasp was 1.8 to 3.8 metric tons, dasp shoulda been the sudo apex or maybe allo(even though irl it weighs less but in game the allo is heavily exaggeratied to fit with game) but sucho, i hope thy just give allo a tlc, also you sound like an idiot saying that pachy and cerat didn't get a tlc, tlc and remodel are very different, usually a tlc is a minor change while remodel is usually a complete change
Tlc doesn't mean it alway changes the looks of something it means to update, patch up something in a game it has alot of new abilities that is a tlc the cera tlc is exactly what a tlc is
The game isn’t meant to have realistic stats,there’s always unbalanced stats in games that’s OP but u can still kill a cera it’s all skill and good builds
What is this Rubbish? Suchomimus was a absolute massive dino now they are making it on par with Dasp? Under Spinosaurus, sucho was realistically the second biggest spinisaurid to my knowledge so surely they can't be adding another spinosaur.
I hate Ceras TLC man. Its so overtuned. Not to mention you see them everywhere
unfortunately no dino game is balanced
What makes something a tlc
An ability overhaul, It can include a remodel but doesn't necessarily have to
If you make the game even toxic go hunt critters and go play single player bruh like me
Like me and some randoms said. Its just becomming path of Herbivores, esp when a lot of the herbis are the ones getting so many buffs
you know a tlc and a remodel are two different things right? a tlc is usually a small model tweak and the main focus is on abilities. So when you say "not really a tlc" you are kind of just sounding like an idiot
Yes his health is pretty high but his combat weight is lower than in apex so its fairly balanced Plus the fact that soon The other dinos will have TLCs
And Plus PoT is still in its Beta stage, many dinosaurs are having stat reworks to see what fits best. we have to be patient with the devs they are doing the best they can.
@Lykmike11game is never gonna be released. It’ll be in beta forever until it’s dead soon
@@zagyz1675 Mmmmm no need to hate man. It will be in its alpha form soon enough. Again we gotta be patient
W vid
You know if you don’t like the dinosaurs or the game. You could just oh I don’t know… not play it. Or just enjoy the game. It’s a game. Games are for fun. If you don’t like it, go play something else you actually enjoy. It’s not that bad of a game. It’s a fun game if you go into it with the mentality of wanting to enjoy yourself.
@@rexhouston6272 have you watch the entire video? If not I say I'm not hating on the game. I don't hate this game but I do point out the problems.
That's such a BS response to say. " If you don't like it, don't play it. " Dude, if I didn't like the game I wouldn't have bought the damn thing. We are allowed to disagree with certain changes and still play the game, you know. It's called constructive criticism and nothing will ever improve if the devs keep feeding off toxic positivity like your comment.