Spider-Man 2 (2004) Review | Consequences & Perfection
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- Опубліковано 27 лис 2021
- Spider Man 2 Review. Continuing on the road to Spider Man No Way Home going through all the live action spider man movies. I move on to Sam Raimi's Spider-Man 2 2004 widely regarded as the best spider man movie ever made. While for the most part I agree that this movie perfectly captures Spider-man, I do have some minor issues with the film. Cant wait to see Doc Ock back to fight Peter Parker in Spider Man No Way Home. Spider Man 2 2004 Movie Review
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Well technically we did see this continuity’s version of the lizard in the Spider-Man the new animated series…
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@@azrael9578 naw you see the mustache
I believe this movie is the perfect representation of what is means for Peter Parker to be Spider-Man
Truly a cinematic masterpiece
Agreed so perfect!
Eh, it had its problems.
@@Green_Justice5389 no. Its the best superhero film
@@Green_Justice5389 thank you. I do not recall in the comic Peter Parker literally being a complete wuss. Not only that:
Loses his powers due to...stress?!
Everyone on the subway knows enough he is...in NY...and they say that his secret is safe with them?!
Spiderman 1 was awesome
Spiderman 2 has an awesome villain, but the protagonist is God awful along with the story.
Spiderman 3 is just a mindless flick.
@@KcKnightX Well, there are better superhero films that I can't name, but i'm not wrong.
I believe Aunt May also found out about Peter’s secret identity. When she’s moving out she tells Peter that she threw away his “old comic books”. Peter acts shocked and immediately after that she gives him the hero speech (beautiful by the way)
I believe those old “comic books” were actually Peter’s notebooks, in were he brainstormed the Spider-Man suit design, aunt May saw them and realized the true identity of his nephew. Again *Peter acts shocked and immediately after that she gives him the hero speech* (this also happened after the fight together against Doc Oc in the bank)
She definitely knows, at least in my head that’s canon lol
thats true i believe that
Didn't she say she gave them away, as in gave it too some random kids. If they were notebooks i'm not sure she would give them to other children. But it's still 100% plausible for her to have found out after the bank scene.
I understand the frustration with spidey losing his powers but I think it’s an essential part of the story and I’d even go a step further and say it makes perfect sense in the real world because if you are suffering from any sort of depression, you won’t be at you’re best whenever you need to rise to the occasion and I think that’s what Sam raimi is trying to communicate through that.
I completely agree
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When I saw this movie as a kid I didn’t really love that the tentacles talked to Doc Ock. But now watching it back as an adult I appreciate it a lot more. It’s not literal mind control or anything like that- the tentacles are basically just an extension of Otto’s ego and his unwillingness to let go of his dream. He’s such a well fleshed out character.
He literally talk to them they were ai he heard them in his mind . I don't think literally mind control but they would influence his dreams and ego like you said persuade him to do his desire no matter what .b
@@koammudo43 Yes I know. As a kid I thought they were just pretty much controlling him. I didn’t understand the nuance back then.
Uhhh..no. The movie pretty much spells out that they are AIs and are controlling his mind.
@@OrthoLou No they're not mind controlling him, they're just talking to him and manipulating him. There's a difference. He chooses not to listen to them by the end because Peter talks sense into him.
The arms have a similar affect as the symbiote if you think about it. They didn’t create necessarily create Otto’s desire to build the machine, merely enhanced it.
What's interesting for Spider-Man losing his powers, I saw Film Theory delve into that and he believed that Peter is dealing with PTSD which led to him trying to balance his life and losing his powers. After he gave up being Spider-Man, he focused on trying to give himself some self therapy until he was able to put himself back together and be Spider-Man again.
People actually watch film theory (and those other theory videos)?
@@wisconsinking323 have u seen the amount of subscribers he have. The man probably make 6 figures easily and over a million in network
This movie has the best Spider-Man villain in my opinion and the best ending to any of the Spider-Man movies. The “go get em tiger” moment still gives me chills.
Green Goblin is the best villain of the trilogy.
Doc Ock was never a villain, more like an antagonist, who opposes the protagonist but not in an evil reckless way.
@@Josh-Parker_Battleedits That's just semantics lmao. He's still the main villain/ antagonist for most of the movie. I like Goblin too but I think Doc Ock is the best. My own opinion obviously.
I found it really comic accurate and it really shows how a girlfriend tries to cheer up his boyfriend
The themes for every Spider-Man film:
Spider-Man 1 -Responability
Spider-Man 2 -Choice
Spider-Man 3 -Forgiveness
The Amazing Spider-Man -Regret
The Amazing Spider-Man 2 -Time Running out
Spider-Man: Homecoming -Acceptence
Spider-Man: Far from Home -Consaquence
SM:FFH is more like Betrayal to me.
I think into the spider verse-legacy
FFH - All the above
Spider-Man: No Way Home - Change
@@brittanyc.4540 I was thinking Sacrifice but that works too
He really didn't lose his powers. He still has them, it's just that his mentality is on off mode, cause of the stress, and not knowing how to live with 2 lives,( himself and as Spider-man). If he really did, then that fall would have killed him upon impact. But he lived, so he still has his durability. Then he made the iconic meme quote, "my back. "
His heart wasn't really in it after 2 years since being Spider-Man was ruining his civilian life with Harry drinking and swearing revenge on Spider-Man and Peter not only not being able to tell him but also not wanting Harry to know his dad was The Green Goblin and had killed himself trying to kill him, him not being able to be with Mary Jane because of the danger, not being able to hold down a job and pay the rent, not being able to help Aunt May with her debt and Jonah still calling him a menace. All that piled up.
@@muscular-lr6er yes but his love for mary jane was one of the many reasons why he was sick of being spider-man
I know I'm a year late but I totally agree and have had to explain this to others, too, who thought he just shut off his powers. I am pretty sure Raimi was kind of alluding to the concept of erectile dysfunction but with spidey-powers.
@@truthbomb2089 , why would Peter shut them off, it makes no sense. Even he was confused why that happened. Not trying to argue or being rude, I'm just curious cause I don't understand.
@@kevinskywalker5539 No, I agree with you. What I was saying was I, too, have heard people say they thought he shut them off and my argument has always been that he didn't, they were simply affected by his state of mind and conflicted self.
Spider-Man 2 has truly been the most historical greatest superhero movie of all time, it has delivers such a powerful story of Peter Parker, and even have the most insane action pack choreography of Spider-Man and doc ock. But I honestly felt like Mary Jane and Harry are the true villains to treat Peter so badly, which they have truly hurt him so badly. Luckily Sami raimi is able to make them shut up by having them finally know Peter is Spider-Man.
I think the only thing that competes is The Dark Knight
Hahahahahahahahaha you serious
@@logandelaharpe6362 yes. Even though Spider-Man 2 is my favourite superhero movie I still think that the dark knight is right there with it.
its not the best but alr
One of the things i love about the Raimi movies are that they show that "Parker Luck" where Pete just cant catch a break. Its the small things like the drink, the food, the car alarm, backpacks slamming into his head...ect.
This dude just cant catch a break. Other movies dont really have that.
The final swing in this movie is the happiest one with Peter being so happy.
In my opinion, Spider-Man losing his problems is a sign of depression. All of his struggles pile up and he is not able to handle that mental strain this manifests in him losing his powers. This movie does a good job about addressing mental health in a subtle way.
1:49 absolutely killed me. 😂
11:55 I personally feel It made sense for Peter to lose his powers based on feeling emotionally “defeated”. It’s like being fired from work and not being able to “perform” for your wife the same night. And yes, I’m using my own experience as an example.
Our subconscious mind can really f us up… that’s a hard story to hear mate, I hope everything is better by now
I love the 2004 Spider-Man 2. I like how Raimi add the Peter giving up being Spider-Man. This was a perfect Spider-Man movie. I got say, Sam Raimi knew how to make a Spider-Man trilogy. 👏👏👏👏👏👏👏
To me, the most definitive Spider-Man movie ever made.
In my honest opinion, no Spider-Man movie after would be on the same level as SM2 (Yes, not even Into the Spider-Verse).
Everything about this movie is damn near perfect. The themes, the story, the characters, the cinematography, the camera work and the music are all top-notch.
Doc Ock, played wonderfully by Alfred Molina, is iconic as a Spider-Man movie villain.
I remember watching this opening day (I think) with my sister, and I was blown away with how spectacular (wink-wink) this movie was/is. Hell, the "Spider-Man no more" scene left me in tears.
Good God Almighty, I LOVE this damn movie.
It’s overrated
@@masonwright7700 How old are you? Six? Is your mum seventeen years old?
What I love most about this movie is how simple it is. The plot is relatively basic and there’s only one villain to deal with, but that allows you to really layer the film with emotion and character development. We don’t get that very often anymore.
My favorite interpretations of Otto is easily Alfred Molina's, and when I first played Spider-Man Ps4 that version of Otto just reminded of Molina's version of Otto, and Tobey's Spidey/Peter was one of the most relatable things of this movie. Looking back at it now as a college student I love how much I can see my own struggles with Peter's imbalance of his personal and "work/Superhero" life
What I love and grown to appreciate after reading some of the 60s Spider-Man comics is that Raimi worked in Peter's loss of powers beautifully. During #12 of Amazing Spider-Man, Peter gets sick and loses his powers right when he has to deal with Doc Ock. What's a nice touch in this movie is that not long after Otto told Peter that keeping love hidden and bottled up inside could make him "sick", he begins to lose his powers. So it's a nice, very subtle nod.
I never thought about the web shooter thing as a kid but that line from Doc Ock "You keep something as complicated as love inside you it'll make you sick" really makes it work also the editor is the guy who would go on to edit Orson Wells final film
Spider-Man did lose his powers in comics from time to time, the earliest example is from Amazing Spider-Man #12 way back in 1964. He lost his powers temporarily because of fever, If a simple fever can make him lose his powers I think it's not too farfetched for him to lose his powers because of depression. Funnily enough, he was also facing Doc Ock at the time.
And this is all we simply want from MCU Spider-Man. Relatability and consequences of his double sided life, hopefully No Way Home will do good at this. Anyway, Spider-Man 2 is amazing! My favorite scene is the opening of him being late for work and doing his work assignment on time. This is relatable for me when it comes to school, as the work overloads me sometimes. Overall, amazing video 3C!
It's actually insane how great this movie ended up being. I hope I'm wrong but I don't think any MCU Spider-Man movie could come close to Spider-Man 2. A fun review as always, Chris.
nwh might but who knows
I gotta say.......this video nearly made me cry with all of the excitement and nostalgia, thankyou man for bringing joy to my day.
Aunt May needs an Oscar. That scene where she gives him money cuts straight to your soul. Its jarring and authentic and heartbreaking.
The raimi trilogy is the best by far, this movie is the best out of that amzing trilogy, which shows how amazing it is
Agreed, they nailed it in the first trilogy
Facts
Eh
As a kid I never understood why Peter just lost his powers, but as an adult and knowing what being depressed feels like and how it can affect everything you do even the things you were good at now seem difficult and you doubt whether you could ever doing them in the first place. Now this movie gets that much better when you add that layer of character to it.
Very true.
God i love this movie. I watched the original trilogy so many times as a kid and Spider-man 2 was always my favorite because of Doc Ock.
I still can't believe we're getting Alfred Molina in the role again . He seems to have a big part in No Way Home and I'm so happy about that .
The whole movie is just so much fun , genuine funny jokes that became memes , as i said Otto Octavius, the story of Peter's struggles with being Spider-man. I just love everything about this movie .
Also awsome edits , i laughed my ass off 🤣
Also Doc Ock is still throwing cars at Peter , i love this detail
This movie was just perfect
Although spiderman 3 was my childhood favorite (the first one being my second favorite), spiderman 2 was probably my most watched spiderman movie as a kid. And Im kinda glad I did watch it that much, because the movie is honestly amazing when I look into it more now that I have matured.
While it’s not my favorite of the live action films, it’s still one of the best superhero movies I’ve ever seen.
Love your intros, can’t wait for your Spider-Man 3 one
So much to say about that movie!
@@3CFilms cant wait!!
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😂 that intro is absolute s tier. So relatable and creative, they just keep getting better
My favorite by far. It captured the essence of everything that I loved about Spider-Man growing up. It also had an awesome alternative soundtrack.
Spider-Man 2 was the film where I first discovered Spider-Man and I will NEVER forget that. This movie still hold ups today with it's story, themes, action, music score from Danny Elfman and most importantly the characters. Raimi really understood Spider-Man and it really shows in this film. Like many people said, this film in a nutshell was a wonderful character study for Peter Parker and his alter-ego Spider-Man and Alfred Molina was fantastic as Doctor Octopus and I can't WAIT to see him again in No Way Home, same with Tobey. Great video and keep up the good work.
This is a masterpiece
Love this movie .
17 years later this film is still one of my favorite superhero films, I find it more relatable the older I get as a young adult I relate to Peter's struggles with just growing and wanting more time and just going through changes for the better but knowing you can't have both of the best worlds truly the most human Spider-Man story and I love it, all the songs and bands they picked fit the tone perfectly I love it even more the older I get
I remember being so damn hyped for this film during my elementary school days, I always played the trailer in the library so many damn times and I remember buying a calendar of Spider-Man 2. I finally went to see it in Mexico at a theater that was next to a grocery store, I remember just having a blast and I remember also being hyped for the first Fantastic Four movie (trailer was played before it started) and to be honest this is one of the best entries in any superhero film.
The Peter losing his powers subplot was implied to be the effect of his depression. Watch The Film Theorist's take on this. I think he hits the mark.
Well according to the comics, Spider-Man actually pulls his punches when fighting non super-powered villains because he can kill them in one punch if he didn’t. When Doc Ock took over Peter’s body and knocked a villains jaw clean off, he came to the conclusion that Spider-Man could’ve easily killed him but was pulling punches.
I do remember reading that so as a comic fan we can assume that but it be nice if they elaborated on that in the movies
Honestly, now that I'm older, the entire thing about Peter losing his powers is kind of clearly modeled to come about in the same fashion as Erectile Dysfunction. Pete's not in control of it, but that is a condition that can come about with stress... So the fact they derived it from a medical condition makes sense to ground it
Watching this movie was the best decision I ever made in my entire life, and I was like 5 years old. No movie since has captured the dichotomy of Peter Parker and Spiderman. As much as I love Into the Spiderverse, I've watched them both on multiple occasions and I'd still pick Spiderman 2 in a heartbeat.
I always thought peter losing his powers was a sign that he needed to focus on being peter parker instead of spiderman for awhile so he can find the balance of both worlds. Its after he has that brilliant conversation with the doctor and that heartbreaking dream sequence where he tells uncle ben he cant do it that i think he was able to start focusing on himself
So happy that you’re going through all the Spider-Man reviews. Thanks for all the hard work you put into these reviews. And great cringetro as always.
No thank you for watching!!
This movie is phenomenal & It will always have a huge part in my heart. I remember I would always repeat the train fight scenes when I was 6 and I wouldn’t stop rewatching it to the point my family would ask why I kept repeating it and not let it finish lol 😆
Just got done cooking and needed something to watch you always come through when I need you!
I loved every moment of this review. The edits with toby are perfect, they had me laughing the whole time, hell I'm still laughing at the edits you do. Keep doing what you are doing man!
Great review as always!! Been a fan for awhile and I love your videos!
Amazing how close you are to 400k subscribers Chris! You deserve it
It's crazy how consistent the quality of the intros are dude
When I was a kid I obviously never questioned the plot points of the Raimi trilogy, but through adulthood I always thought him losing his powers was a lesson in that, even though you can tell yourself you’re doing what you’re supposed to do, the question could always be there if you constantly put others before you’re own needs. “Am I not supposed to have what I want, what I need?” I thought it humanized him extremely as a hero who always puts others before him. Everyone needs a break sometimes and if you don’t mentally decide to take one, in extreme cases of stress, your body can choose to take a break for you. I see it as a rare entry in the super hero genre that actually shows the mental stress being a hero would add onto your normal life. And what that mental stress can do to you physically. Ottos arch I feel slightly mimics that, in that how much he worked and fixated on his fusion project, and when he could have asked himself, “am I not supposed to have what I want” and he took the opportunity to take what he wanted, like Peter took his “losing his powers” as an opportunity to go back to normal life, cause that’s what Peter wanted. SUCH an amazing superhero story. Relatable, and it was story first, spectacle to enhance the story. The formula for super hero movies now is definitely not what it was
Just had to get surgery, great video to watch for recovery. Great review
I Saw this Movie when around 3 years old and my older brother was big Spider-Man Fan that he had all of the trilogy (Widescreen edition, very classic) on DVD and I started watching it with him and this one was the one made fall in love with Spider-Man that now I collect legos figures of each version, 2002, TASM, you name it, i got it (Most of them) Tbh without this movie idk where i would picture myself right now
I think the whole , psychological turning off of his powers thing is because his powers depend on his emotions and psychological mood. I don't know if it's true but I'm sure it's something like that
I had the same exact beach chair and used it for years ! Love the channel & content! Especially since you can relate to many of us in our childhood. 🤟🏽
I always wondered why Peter didn’t just move in back with Aunt May to save on his own bills and help his aunt.
I think it’s amazing because of its iconic fight scenes and the down parts about peters life just like the comics but I don’t like how every body knows his secret identity and how he says the most random things in a conversation
This was my favorite intro that you’ve done keep up the good work
I honestly would love a prelude of Spider-Man 3 where Peter tells Mary Jane of the day uncle Ben died, in a style of the ending of the first Rambo film of how Rambo addresses with his ptsd. But with a heartbreaking grief powerful performance tobey would pull off to give for his Peter to share his pain to Mary Jane and she would feel so bad for him and feel guilty of everything she has said about him being the empty seat. And then luckily with a beautiful ending with Peter crying while Mary Jane gives him a hug.
Spiderman 2 will always have a special place in my heart
These reviews are perfect timing I just rewatched all of the rami movies like 3 days ago
I actually really like the losing powers. Since depression in highschool I learned the hard way that your mental state can effect your physical state. So honestly yeah it was intresting and my heart def felt bad for him going through all shitty sequences.
Chris You are so good with reivews and your intros and this movie is a masterpeace
i think this might be the movie that accurately shows the struggles and impact that spider-man has on peter parker’s life
You know what I am 150% percent that Tobey and Andrew’s spider men are in no way home because I saw a 5 disc dvd case with both the spider men movies excluding Tom Holland’s and more and more clues for them to be in the movie keep coming out. Cool video intro.
This movie has such awesome rewatchablity, and is one of my favorite super hero movies
3C, YOU'RE A GENIUS MAN! 😂 That intro, and then the tease at the end where you lowkey spoil Ned's death in Now Way Home😭😭😭...
You ain't slick man. 😏
You forgot to mention about Aunt May's speech "There is a Hero in all of us" it's such a important part of the movie.
I'm hoping 3cfilms does a top 10 best and worst/disappointed movies of 2021 video since he couldn't do one last year due to covid but hope he makes one! Cant wait to see ur review for spiderman 3!
Almost at 400k
It felt like a day since you hit 300k
That was the best intro ive seen on your channel brother 🤣
I always wondered how the immediate convo between peter and aunt May played out after the fight at the bank 😆
Also, “Dogcock”.
Thanks for these reviews Chris love them
Your intros are so accurate tho 😭
That intro was superb lol thank you
Omg love that intro lol nicely done
“Why do I got a sock there” LMFAOOOo I love you man
Ngl that sock part got me whilst drinking water lol
I do miss these movies and wish Sam Raimi got a chance to continue them especially because I miss the whole cast overall. I also wish Andrew got to continue is Spider-Man films as well. Hopefully Tom doesn’t get the same treatment because I do love all 3 iterations they have brought us and I believe Tom deserves the chance to continue his own version of Spider-Man and my god is Kirsten Dunst gorgeous.
It’s not that he can turn off his abilities it’s that fact that he’s coping with ptsd from the previous movies, only when he’s able relax and take time for himself that he gets his abilities back
Too hilarious intro and we get to see younger Cris, I was like ahí está el guero.
That Intro predicted the whole situation
Peter lost his powers because of depression with dealing with Mary Jane with another guy and harry turning on him along with rent issues and collage when he had to focus on himself more which is why I love this movie
Hey Chris, love the intros and vids as always! I just wanted to pop into the comments to suggest for you to watch matpat's, or film theory's video on why Spiderman lost his powers in the movie. Hope this reaches you!
Lmfao donell Rawlings had me laughing “WOEEEE HE STOLED THAT GUYS PIZZA!” 😂
finally early to a 3C video!! so excited to see your review :)
To argue your point on him “turning his powers off” I like to believe that he has severe PTSD & like you said about his life problems piling up on him i feel it takes a toll not only physically with his powers but mentally as well. So when he decides to just be peter I think that’s when he decides to “turn off his powers” I always liked that aspect
Aunt may was absolutely flawless in these movies, she won't be topped for me, her performance hit me too hard.
She definitely wasn't flawless. For one, she was more like Peter's grandmother
Im really loving this reviews you are amazing man
my friend and I have been up for hours but finally got ahold of some tickets to the movie! So this was hilariously accurate! Amazing video as always!!
this movie was ahead of its time man and my fav spiderman film, im so glad to have this on DVD and really hype to see Molina again on the big screen! 🔥
That intro…perfect😭
This and TASM1 are the only Spider-Man movies I didn't get to see in theaters. But when I finally saw this one, my favorite scene is definitely the transition of Peter swinging to Otto"s glasses. What a battle that was. Not to mention all the pizza missions and car chases in the Spider-Man 2 videogame.
I Remember when my hometown was having a Theatre Showtime back when this movie released and there was a time when the movie started.
They had a Countdown and my dad and mom had the tickets and we went and waited for the theatre to open so we can wait and get our seats before anyone got there's and I was so excited when Spider Man 2 started and was happy
That's Ted Raimi, Sam Raimi's brother, who rattles of names to Jameson. He shows up in a lot of his brother's work.
7:58, that edit was really funny Chris
Dude I live your introductions lollll
That was the best intro LOL