I PREDICTED Volition Getting Shut Down after The Saints Row Reboot FAILURE (RIP SAINTS ROW)

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  • @GwoppyTrai
    @GwoppyTrai  Рік тому +45

    "Ah no no... That's not how this book is written. The Saints Legacy ends here, not with a bang, but with a whimper." - Eddie 'Killbane' Pryor
    Over a year ago, I predicted the Volition studio would get shut down after the manhandling failure that was Saints Row 2022, and now i'm hear to say my final goodbye to once a talented studio, now turned into a woke shell of their glory days. RIP Volition 1996 - 2023

  • @ace.of.skulls
    @ace.of.skulls Рік тому +48

    They should’ve listened to the fans instead of calling us haters and terrorists

    • @haaxxx9
      @haaxxx9 Рік тому +3

      I saw haters but never terrorists from the devs… Very unhinged to even blame the fans for something they didn’t even want before the game launch last year LMAO!

    • @TheRetrostorian
      @TheRetrostorian 10 місяців тому +1

      ​@@haaxxx9 They literally called people terrorists.

  • @GeteMachine
    @GeteMachine Рік тому +24

    Remember, Sonic saved itself from failure just by taking in criticism and getting an official artist for Sonic to redesign it.

    • @Solosantanagaming
      @Solosantanagaming Рік тому +1

      They should’ve done the same thing it would’ve saved them some trouble

  • @henrystickmin7802
    @henrystickmin7802 Рік тому +28

    The Saints Row franchise will serve as a prime example of what NOT to do when it comes to listening to your fans. And not to bite the hand that feeds you. Its shame what this is what it had to come to for Saints Row.

  • @LTJfan
    @LTJfan Рік тому +21

    "Haters gonna hate."-Volition
    They ate their own words....

    • @juliusweaver3198
      @juliusweaver3198 6 місяців тому

      To be a fly on the wall when they all saw bad they failed to here those conversations at that meeting to see the look on all their faces wheeeeeew they definitely ate their own words

  • @KennyFoxborrow
    @KennyFoxborrow Рік тому +14

    0:00 Look it's me!! 👉🦊
    Out of all the failures in video gaming history, this one had to hurt the most. RIP Saints Row. Gone but forgotten 💜⚜️

  • @wayne30-f7h
    @wayne30-f7h Рік тому +20

    All volition had to do is make a remaster of saints row 1 & 2

    • @ace.of.skulls
      @ace.of.skulls Рік тому +6

      And not make it a buggy mess like recent remasters

    • @Raphews
      @Raphews Рік тому +2

      It wasnt their fault Flippy has a video explaining that apparently it was DeepSilver their publisher that forced them to change the tone of the game from streetgangs to friendship between young adults

    • @TheRetrostorian
      @TheRetrostorian 10 місяців тому +1

      ​@@RaphewsIt was their fault. They coded it, they designed it, they put it out. The devs were out there on their own private accounts defending the game and talking shit to fans to. Nobody at that company deserves to work in the industry again. Should have quit, should have leaked.

    • @juliusweaver3198
      @juliusweaver3198 6 місяців тому

      @@TheRetrostorian‼️‼️‼️ they sold out and it cost them big time ugh to be at their meeting to see all their faces when they seen the failure explode on themselves would be priceless I bet the conversations in that room was something interesting

  • @NFSBeast2365
    @NFSBeast2365 Рік тому +8

    Volition's Community Manager calling us terrorists was pure OFFENSIVE. I hope they NEVER Touch another franchise ever again. Good video as always, BTW.

    • @GwoppyTrai
      @GwoppyTrai  Рік тому +2

      It was out of pocket that's for sure. And If you got ME of all people truly offended, (which is used too loosely these days) you know you done f'd it up!

    • @cruxmind
      @cruxmind Рік тому +1

      ​@@GwoppyTraiit definitely was someone tapped into a different reality because that's not professional at all. That's like Nintendo calling us all dogs and simps.

    • @chrisville004
      @chrisville004 Рік тому +1

      Honestly it’s tramaitizing how hyped I was for a new saints row game only to be so disappointed 😭

  • @taransingh9548
    @taransingh9548 Рік тому +8

    Gaming is not the same anymore like the PS2/PS3 days

    • @dariusblack7628
      @dariusblack7628 Рік тому +5

      Facts I still got my ps3 with ps2 games and niggas call me lame

    • @juliusweaver3198
      @juliusweaver3198 6 місяців тому

      I been saying this for so long I’ll pick this era over today era of games they’re all so empty with missing ingredients we keep trying to tell them

  • @NO_ONE_CAN_BEAT_ME-l7i
    @NO_ONE_CAN_BEAT_ME-l7i Рік тому +14

    All they had to do was to make saints row 2 but a much darker saints row.

    • @GwoppyTrai
      @GwoppyTrai  Рік тому +4

      Literally one job, give the fans what they wanted. It's the epidemy of you had one job.

    • @JaredThompson666
      @JaredThompson666 28 днів тому

      That would've been cool.

  • @DeadSpectre329
    @DeadSpectre329 Рік тому +6

    Then the fella once said, "Ain't that a kick in the head."

  • @loudhousememes8391
    @loudhousememes8391 Рік тому +12

    The fact that UA-camrs like you and the Saints Row community saw thisbcoming but not Volition says alot. It hurts so much to see Saints Row go out like this

  • @GeteMachine
    @GeteMachine Рік тому +6

    We wanted likable, adult, badass and funny gangsters again. Deep Silver comes along and we get aliens, clones, demons, Satan, GI Joe and Hipsters. Like fr Deep Silver, just always doing the opposite of what fans actually asked for.

  • @amirjones129
    @amirjones129 Рік тому +6

    Nice intro gwoppy

  • @GeteMachine
    @GeteMachine Рік тому +6

    I blame Deep Silver, we still dont know what the game was originally going to be when it was said to be a SR2.5 or a mix of SR2 and SR3, because Volition said it was this themselves but it clearly wasnt. The series just went downhill ever since DeepSilver bought the IP. From SR4 onward they sold less, tried to cater too much to the mainstream and journalists and made the games dumber and dumber instead of just following the things and characters people liked.

    • @GwoppyTrai
      @GwoppyTrai  Рік тому +2

      I agree, I watched Flippy's video and he said that it was reportedly supposed to be SR2.5 until Deep Silver stepped in. If that is true, There's going to be serious hell to pay for this. Flippy gotta drop a video exposing what exactly happened from start to finish. He's not under contract anymore

    • @AL-nv4gk
      @AL-nv4gk 8 місяців тому

      ​@@GwoppyTraisus gotta be a 3 hours long view milker can't just give us the info with the quickness

  • @BilisiFunfun
    @BilisiFunfun 10 місяців тому +1

    The Saints Row Reboot characters would be killed off in the background of a cutscene in Saints Row 2.

  • @alazaythegamer6636
    @alazaythegamer6636 Рік тому +4

    It is sad day for us OG gamers now that volition is gone there’s no one to compete with rockstar and that means rockstar is in no competition to another AAA game right now and now they’re gonna get worse which means GTA 6 is done for i said this once and I’m gonna say it again if GTA 6 comes out and it be trash I’m walking off to the sunset of modern gaming maybe if a game that’s be good and it’s not woke, bug free and fun to play then I’ll probably come back but that’s never gonna happened anyway Goodbye Volition RIP to saint row 😢

  • @mightyman116
    @mightyman116 Рік тому +3

    Thank you Gwoppy for listening to my comment and making one last rant on Volition. Am really gonna miss the one only studio who used to make great open world games like Saints Row 2 😢

  • @CrossSentEveryone05-06
    @CrossSentEveryone05-06 Рік тому +5

    I wanna see how the "community manager" Steph feels about this considering she was part of the problem that this new game failed because she tolerated this insult of a Saints Row and then bullied the fans who were giving constructive criticism calling them "terrorists" that's not how professional business is done, I feel bad for the innocent devs who were against this game and were forced to release this trash and i feel bad they have to lose their jobs on behave of a money hungry incompetent studio as well as the publisher; guess the fans had the final laugh.

    • @GwoppyTrai
      @GwoppyTrai  Рік тому +2

      I wanna see it too. I would paid good money to see what she tweeted before she privated her account. She probably had a mental breakdown again and got ratioed.

  • @EmeraldTaurus96
    @EmeraldTaurus96 Рік тому +8

    I heard they wanted to make SR2.5 from Flippy's recent video. It was Deep Silver's decision to make the reboot what it was. 3 was full of wasted potential and slightly bloated/padded with reused/reskinned activities.
    Volition and the gaming industry as a whole keeps giving me signs, motivation, and reasons to make my own projects. I'm writing some ideas and creating concepts as we speak. I'm through waiting and depending on the industry to make what I want when they've shown numerous of times they're not going to. So I say "f*ck it, I'll do it myself"

    • @GwoppyTrai
      @GwoppyTrai  Рік тому +3

      I just watched his video the other day and to nobodies surprise, we been lied to about this being SR2.5. This is not even CLOSE. It's crazy how the upper management just lie and have this much control in games these days. I'm at this point myself where I'll do stuff my self instead because I know the direction and what is best.

    • @EmeraldTaurus96
      @EmeraldTaurus96 Рік тому +2

      @@GwoppyTrai Self publish and going independent is basically the only route at this point. ESG has ruined the vast majority of the AAA gaming industry as well as most entertainment.
      Unfortunately, we can't rely on Japan because they got a set of issues as well. But at least they make better and fun games. I just can't trust them to make a GTA like game (Yakuza/Like a Dragon doesn't count)

    • @cruxmind
      @cruxmind Рік тому +1

      ​@@EmeraldTaurus96you won't have time to play the game though. But still, keep that fire. We need better gaming companies

    • @AL-nv4gk
      @AL-nv4gk 8 місяців тому

      ​@@EmeraldTaurus96they unnobjectionably do not make better games at all, check ther numbers they done GTA 5&Online Skyrim with mods , rd2 , Minecraft, Fortnite, COD, God of War Spiderman , No Mans Sky etc , what have these japs got that stacks up to these incredible experiences really 😂 Fire Emblem & Yakuza? where you're forced to play as some squinter no character creation lol most people don't think Japanese people can pull off badass and they quite frankly don't only a success due to weebs simple as.

  • @ultraunique3476
    @ultraunique3476 Рік тому +6

    The original OG developers that gave us SR1-2 will be missed. But these soft anti masculinity woke sjw pussified GenZ developers of today they won't be missed.

    • @juliusweaver3198
      @juliusweaver3198 6 місяців тому

      Maybe I missed something but wtf happened with the OG developers like did they allow this willingly like they sold out with the rest of em “trading their dicks in for pussies” or they had no choice? Or they retired? Because how you allow your masterpiece turn into piece of shit is something that will NEVER sit well with me they could’ve gone in so many directions that gave SR1-2

  • @elperrodelautumo7511
    @elperrodelautumo7511 Рік тому +4

    Had Volition listened to the fanbase, perhaps Embracer group could’ve spared Volition from being dismantled. Instead it took bad luck from Embracers part in gaining an investment opportunity with a Saudi Arabian game corp firm with a prince from the Saudi royal family in charge, not really listening to the fans, pandering to woke people, and belittling the fanbase that made your company name known. And also dismantling the roots of what made Saints Row a game series. An alternative competitor to GTA.

  • @MO_MUFC_895
    @MO_MUFC_895 Рік тому +9

    Interesting start to the video😂

    • @GwoppyTrai
      @GwoppyTrai  Рік тому

      I got bored and wanted to get creative with this intro Lol

  • @IXSymbioticxTrevXI2019
    @IXSymbioticxTrevXI2019 Рік тому +5

    Fat L for them, they should have listened to the fans. I call dibs that this will happen to Rockstar Games after GTA 6

    • @isaac-ga
      @isaac-ga Рік тому +1

      😂😂😂😂😂😂in ur dreams

    • @IXSymbioticxTrevXI2019
      @IXSymbioticxTrevXI2019 Рік тому

      @@isaac-ga Keep defending

    • @isaac-ga
      @isaac-ga Рік тому

      @@IXSymbioticxTrevXI2019 gta6 will sell no matter what it's a fact bruh gta definitive edition sold 25 million despite all bugs people will definitely get next gta also don't forget online a lot will buy just for it. They invested a lot on this game it will be great hopefully even better than rdr2

    • @UrOpinionsSucc
      @UrOpinionsSucc 4 місяці тому

      Bruh Rockstar has MONEY! them niggaz ain't going nowhere, they still making money from shark card sales 🤣🤣🤣

  • @xfusionz619
    @xfusionz619 Рік тому +6

    Gta fans boys out here celebrating now

    • @henrystickmin7802
      @henrystickmin7802 Рік тому +6

      That's what's the sad part is. Same crowd that was saying Saints Row was a GTA clone

    • @xfusionz619
      @xfusionz619 Рік тому +3

      @@henrystickmin7802 there definitely one of the reasons why the development team tried to get away from Saint row 1 and 2

    • @GeteMachine
      @GeteMachine Рік тому +4

      They ruined this genre. If rockstar screws them over, they deserve it. They helped them get as greedy as they are now with only that IP left in the genre.

    • @troypowers750
      @troypowers750 11 місяців тому

      Yeah, maybe the small minority.

  • @ericmatlock2597
    @ericmatlock2597 Рік тому +3

    RIP BOZO! YOU WILL NOT BE MISSED! 🎉🎉

  • @therandom_dude
    @therandom_dude Рік тому +3

    The best studio to probably revive saints row would probably be INSOMNIAC games,but seeing their owned by Sony now,might not be very likely. But maybe sony might sell it multiplat.
    Look at what they did with sunset overdrive,it's basically a very tame saints row, Gameplay wise. And that game is amazing.
    If there is someone to get the saints row ip to it would be insomniac games. They would do it justice for real.

    • @mightyman116
      @mightyman116 Рік тому

      Bruh, i just finished playing Sunset Overdrive game and legit i thought it was like Saints Row but better. Cause it was goofy as well. Check out my walkthroughs on my channel and I even said like 2 or 3 times on my video that this game goofiness is just like saints row but better

  • @lightknightayden813
    @lightknightayden813 Рік тому +2

    I see you saw my friend jayrants on your comment video. Me and him have been telling people to wake up saying volition and deepsilver don't have no brain cells no more. Now hope to lord the deadly steph lady is definitely out the job. I said this before gwoppy if i run the company i would've made a awesome new generation saints row story and game similar to saints row 2 i blow rockstar out of the water.

  • @NO_ONE_CAN_BEAT_ME-l7i
    @NO_ONE_CAN_BEAT_ME-l7i Рік тому +7

    Nice mask Gwoppy.

  • @GAMER3Productions
    @GAMER3Productions Рік тому +2

    I heard it was mostly Deep Silver’s fault, but Volition kept pouring more gasoline on the fire when they insulted people on social media while they could’ve at least be professional and say that they understand and promote their game without insulting the old Saints Row games and the fan base. Hell, the Cyberpunk 2077 community manager didn’t insult anyone on Twitter when the game was launched because that person knows that it was a buggy mess!!!

  • @electricalkid9943
    @electricalkid9943 Рік тому +4

    All they had do was go back to the GANGSTER Roots they had 10 years and still FUCK up

    • @juliusweaver3198
      @juliusweaver3198 6 місяців тому

      It’s the fact that they tried to play us by saying they were only to play themselves like of all the routes they could’ve taken hell they had the ending of Gat out of hell options to follow behind like anything other than this fuck shit I’m so glad I decided not to waste money on it and I was die hard saints supporter I still am just not with this disgrace of a “reboot” smh

  • @wayne30-f7h
    @wayne30-f7h Рік тому +5

    I wonder what deadly Steph’s reaction was when volition shut down

    • @GwoppyTrai
      @GwoppyTrai  Рік тому +4

      Probably had a mental breakdown on Twitter

    • @GeteMachine
      @GeteMachine Рік тому +2

      She actually claimed SR1 and SR2 werent that popular a day or so before this too.

  • @onlyonezay419
    @onlyonezay419 Рік тому +1

    Brodie you perfectly explained this shit. I’ve heard my folks explain it so perfect that I was gonna make a whole video my damn self but y’all gettin the message out. If only we could make video games our damn self.

  • @aldusty2734
    @aldusty2734 Рік тому +4

    While having nostalgia for only SR3, I really feel like I missed out when they I watched gameplay for 1 & 2, the reboot really felt so much more watered down compared to 3

    • @GwoppyTrai
      @GwoppyTrai  4 місяці тому

      To me SR3 was okay but it got out of hand real quick, but not better than the 1 and 2 in my eyes. I'm still playing SR1 on the Xenia emulator on PC and it's such a great game. If you have a decent PC rig or a Xbox you can play SR1 and 2.

    • @aldusty2734
      @aldusty2734 4 місяці тому

      @@GwoppyTrai Really? I might try and play them then when I have the time to spare.

  • @mxrrytuexx
    @mxrrytuexx Рік тому +2

    Volition is the type to cheat on a test and still fail. Literally the fans told them how to make this game but they still insisted on ignoring the fans and doing their own direction and look where that got them

  • @1992TheDiamondWolf
    @1992TheDiamondWolf Рік тому +4

    Donald Trump Mugshot look more Gangsta then this woke Saints Row reboot that not gangsta at all

    • @GwoppyTrai
      @GwoppyTrai  Рік тому

      Ain't that that the truth. Reality is often disappointing

  • @dennisjohnson1937
    @dennisjohnson1937 Рік тому +1

    What’s hilarious and sad is that whoever wrote this game thought they did something. They really thought that the fans would love it. Volition had MULTIPLE chances to get it right. Saints Row The Third was fun to play, but the story wasn’t as good as 1 and 2. Saints Row IV was even worse. While it’s fun to play and I do enjoy it, it is NOT a Saints Row game. They thought it was a good idea to blow up the earth. I don’t know who thought that was a good idea, but whoever was had to have been high on something. Then Saints Row Gat Out of Hell decided to become Dante’s Inferno, where you go to hell and fight demons. And finally, we hear about the reboot. We see the teaser picture, and we thought that we were gonna get what we wanted. An actual Saints Row game. But when we saw the trailer, we saw that it was NOT what we wanted. They received criticism, but yet they chose to be disrespectful to their fans. And honestly, they could’ve saved themselves. All they had to do was bring back the original characters, make a better story, and make a better version of Stilwater. But they decided to release this garbage. This was their final nail in the coffin. It’s a shame really, a once great franchise destroyed. In the words of Don Corleone “Look at how they massacred my boy”.

  • @itz_ic21gaming97
    @itz_ic21gaming97 Рік тому +2

    Volution asked for it. They had one chance and blow it. Saints row is long gone. The Saints row reboot literally died way too early it's ridiculous but that's the fact.

  • @wilser2312
    @wilser2312 Рік тому +1

    Been waiting on this video too bad we may never see another saints row but this is what volition wanted, RIP saints row

  • @drfirebone1-936
    @drfirebone1-936 Рік тому +2

    We also have that mindseye game from Leslie benzie

  • @wayne30-f7h
    @wayne30-f7h Рік тому +4

    I’m honestly thinking about giving up on gaming

    • @GwoppyTrai
      @GwoppyTrai  Рік тому +1

      If GTA 6 fails, this is gonna be my final straw

  • @antoningaming3126
    @antoningaming3126 Рік тому +1

    I hate to say we told you so, but I’m gonna say it right now. We told you so

  • @FreeAimDog
    @FreeAimDog Рік тому

    i think about everyone did, the real question is who held back and who bought it. i never got it because i knew it would be on plus but what i dint count on is how early it would arrive, i still thought we had another year or 2. got to play it for free basically (not giving volition money) and got to make content out of it, its the only value i got out of it but thats not saying much.

  • @DemonicAkumi
    @DemonicAkumi Рік тому

    I want to make a train set.
    My 1st edition comes with a few cars, a few tracks, a little bit of scenery to put around the tracks. The buys are happy.
    2nd edition I added dozens of cars, multiple track options for limitless customization of track setups, a lot of scenery options from signs, grass, hills, and even passengers. Buyers rejoice.
    3rd edition I added only a dozen cars... not dozens, more tracks than the 1st edition but way less than 2nd edition, added scenery that are more quirky and silly like inflatable arm flailing tube men. Buyers confused as I cause a war in the fandom.
    4th edition I replaced the cars that were down to earth and made them all tron themed, the tracks are exactly the same as the 3rd edition with 1 or 2 added to go with the tron-themed look. Seems like I'm losing buyers.
    5th edition has nothing from any of the previous editions and got a very Doom-esque theme to it. Seems I've lost even more buyers.
    6th edition is actually 1st edition 2017. It's a soft reboot to see if I can get my train enthusiasts back and happy until the next edition to come out. Doesn't seem much bought it.
    7th edition is a new true 1st edition than 2017's 1st edition. 1st edition 2022. All the cars now are designed very hipster, very anti capitalist, anti coal/gas/oil... meaning no locomotive options here, and any that were fans of my first 4 editions don't like it can go lick a railroad spike as I don't bow down to train hijackers.
    Seems no one bought it and I put way too much money into this edition thinking I would make money.
    Why is my trainset company going bankrupt? Choo choo?

  • @tankdogization
    @tankdogization Рік тому +2

    The thing about some games is that the characters are so well written that you could invite them into your home for a beer or dinner. Rockstar wrote characters like Arthur Morgan and John Marston so deep that you could see yourself sharing a room with them despite who they are.

    • @GwoppyTrai
      @GwoppyTrai  Рік тому +2

      Fundamentally you got a good point. John and Arthur are really good characters and people once you get to know them and want to share a beer with them. The new saints however, they can be invited but I'll instantly tell them to leave based on how annoying they are.

  • @Sly9192
    @Sly9192 Рік тому +1

    Nice Rdc references

    • @GwoppyTrai
      @GwoppyTrai  Рік тому

      I was hoping someone caught it!

  • @warmachine66613
    @warmachine66613 Рік тому

    There is one more company that has hope of sticking it to Rockstar and that Build A Rocket Boy with their game Everywhere. I say this because the former hearts of Rockstar the ones that made GTA what mostly Leslie Benzies are behind this studio and new game

  • @onepiecethegoat4562
    @onepiecethegoat4562 Рік тому +1

    I mean you kinda didn't predict anything it was already obvious that they were going to get shut down.

  • @ReccaWolf
    @ReccaWolf Рік тому +1

    Ironically, “Terrorists” wins! 🤣

  • @jacobxiaolong9104
    @jacobxiaolong9104 Рік тому

    You forgot the tweet DX made about Saint’s Row.

  • @kaylemjoseph8727
    @kaylemjoseph8727 Рік тому +3

    furry
    gang

  • @nuhuh-hu2mm
    @nuhuh-hu2mm Рік тому

    I am perhaps a GTA fan boy but saints row 3 was really a nice game
    Nice fursuit btw

  • @cruxmind
    @cruxmind Рік тому

    😂this is what happens when you take a beloved game, block out feedback and listen to nothing but greed. RIP og volition. F you, New school volition.

  • @thechosenone2123
    @thechosenone2123 Рік тому +4

    I usually don't like rooting for a company's failure. It's never a good thing to see a game studio shut down and hundreds of workers lose their jobs. But Volition deserves this & brought this down upon themselves.
    .
    They were given plenty of chances in the past decade to give fans what they wanted. Time & time again, fans asked, pleaded & begged them to go back to their SR1 & SR2-style gangster roots, but Volition NEVER listened. Instead, they mocked their fans and tweeted "HATERS GONNA HATE" as well as calling anyone who constructively criticizes their games as "te****ists".
    .
    Plus, SR4 was terrible, SR GOOH was a dumpster fire, Agents Of Mayhem was garbage and the reboot was a woke abomination........they had 4 chances and fumbled the bag each & every time. So no, I DONT feel sorry for them, they were given way too many chances only to prove themselves incompetent. Volition have nobody to blame but themselves for their studio's closure........

  • @jimpawlak7806
    @jimpawlak7806 Рік тому

    gee...i knew it as well that it would happen...

  • @antoningaming3126
    @antoningaming3126 Рік тому

    Bad news. Jayrants Gaming just got terminated

  • @mdpt.
    @mdpt. Рік тому

    collab?

  • @senjukirameshi1418
    @senjukirameshi1418 Рік тому

    They can always sell it to rockstar 😅

  • @yofwill
    @yofwill 10 місяців тому

    Heh. Rockstar is next in several years. The cracks are showing. They can't hide behind their GTA online services forever! How long is GTA going to remain sustainable for them?

    • @AL-nv4gk
      @AL-nv4gk 8 місяців тому

      Making excess money in unsustainable? Rockstar's in trouble guys! What a brainlet 😂

  • @theeasedgod4492
    @theeasedgod4492 Рік тому

    Lol didnt we tell yal voilition?

  • @jaysantanaofficialmusic
    @jaysantanaofficialmusic Рік тому

    Bruh what da hell on yo head folks 😂😂😂😂

  • @carljohnson4285
    @carljohnson4285 Рік тому

    I mean he's gotta point you know...