Finally, Infini is up. The build quality is so good that it makes me clean up all my tubes recently. But everything else is strong.. The jog breaks easily. I've already broken two. Make sure to control the app!
I bought a pb3 recently, it’s fantastic in low light for adding splashes of colour :) in hindsight I may have bought at mt pro, but this does offer expansion
Great video as always! Is there any chance you could review the Digital Sputnik Apollo? Seems like an interesting product i'd like a professional opinion on
@@gaffergear I know, it's been quite silent around this one lately. Still interesting fixtures in my opinion :) While i'm at it, what do you think of the Kelvin Epos lights? They definitely have drawn some attention to themselves
I bought four of the PB12 lights and have been satisfied in the limited testing I've done thus far. The Sidus Link app does have a ton more features than displayed here. The particular sync effects are as Andrew displayed, but there's two more menu systems to dive into, with custom effects, music sync (haven't tested properly), color palettes etc. Customizing the built in effects like pixel fire can net some interesting results as well.
I didn't buy them - figured if they were good, there would be a Gaffer and Gear review. Glad I didn't now I see the hi-speed flicker and app limitation
Great Video! Thanks a lot. I just bought 2 of the PB12 Bars - working great except for the CRMX. I put the Tubes in DMX Profile Mode 20 (D-RGB / 12 Pixels / 48 Channels) connecting via CRMX and the Litecraft CX.1 - there is a great noticeable stutter between the different light engines and there is almost no possibility to do smooth fades, chases or transitions. Tested with different dimming curves and DMX smoothing seems to just do nothing. Also updated to latest firmware and timotwo chip. It seems there is still something wrong with the DMX/CRMX Processing
@@gaffergear the pure RGB and CCT mode seems to work but only if DMX smoothing is turned on. Pixel FX mode works also but is very complicated to use in live situations
Unfortunately I don't have enough DMX knowledge or sophisticated DMX to really thoroughly test. I was watching a demo of these used in a pixel wall, and I noticed looking over at the console that it looked like the tubes were seconds behind the commands
Hey Andrew, this was great, thank you. Question for you: I'm looking for some expert thoughts on how to create a book light that's fairly easy to travel with. Someone online mentioned Inifibars in a 4'x4' configuration. What are your thoughts on that approach? And alternatively, would it be easier to get a studio light, like a 300D, and shoot it through a collapsible 4x4' frame with magic cloth? Thank you!
@@fivelight5693 definitely, it might take a few goes to get them starting in time, but sure, thats a definite solution, and most people have more than one phone sitting around
I’m considering buying either these Aputure Infinibars or the Godox LD150 RGB Panel Light. I’m just not sure which one would make the better key light for a music video and I’m scared of the flickering 😅. What are your thoughts on the flickering? Is it a deal breaker?
Thank you. I don’t know how I missed that. So if I’m reading this right, the Asteras are a little brighter in daylight and tungsten but when using colors, the Infinibars are the winner?
@@frontfoot1035 Thats right. Colour brightness is all over the place from light to light. This can also be affected by the colour science, for example an RGBWW light turns on red emitters to go from white to red, whereas an RGBACL light has to turn off its GBACL to do the same.
They look like a very cool product, however, I wonder how useful the pixel tech is in reality? I'd love to see some real life applications of this tech.
I for one use them for working with product photography - I hooked the DMX into unreal engine … this way, unreal engine can show the background that’s projected behind the products and a reverse camera angle can use DMX pixel mapping on these bars to Project the proper contact lighting on the front of the objects so your objects will look like they’re in the virtual world and sit better in the virtual production space for real world photography
these are not flicker free and green tint damm ,well be making all sorts of corrections to match .....would you say astera is still king of the tubes ?? up to what frame rate without flicker on these aputures ?
@@creativegreatsvisuals more pixel control over the app (but it is way more difficult to use) it can mount to a wall and face the camera, and more vibrant colours bacauae of its colour mixing.
I own the kit of 2' units and I absolutely HATE the case. It's too unwieldy for a solo operator. I moved them all to another case and got rid of the original case.
I only use an app if it has integral operations for the light, such as the pixel programs in this case. I have had too many people say the apps didn't work as good as they did in my review, or the apps don't work with multiple lights
I think I love this channel the way some folks love church.
The church of legit gear reviews:)
We’re very fortunate to have you in our lives to walk us through the ins and outs of these units. Thank you again!
I had to wait all this months until andrew give his opinion before to buy anything hahaha
Great review! How bright are they in comparison to the Amaran T4c/T2c/etc.? Anyone any idea?
Nobody.. and I mean NOBODY reviews as well, as honestly and as concisely as Andrew... As my bank managers can sadly testify too.
Finally, Infini is up. The build quality is so good that it makes me clean up all my tubes recently. But everything else is strong.. The jog breaks easily. I've already broken two. Make sure to control the app!
Interesting, is it breaking when pressed down or scrolling?
@@gaffergear scrolling and boom..🫠🫠I was spinning it and it got stuck in the bottom
Cheers, Andrew, you always have the best reviews. Just want to say that your opening shot feels so epic! Looks great.
Nice wipe at 03:01
Nice! The bars were filled with cocaine and were seized by customs. But Andrew being the GOAT, got them through no worries!
It's my standard deal for a good review
@@gaffergearlmao!
@@TheTechnoPilotgaffer ON gear
Very helpful note about the curves, thank you!
Love the technology, its changed the industry. The 8 light kits are bit heavy too, need those wheels, even then it's a wrist strainer.
Great review covering the pros and cons. Thank you.
I bought a pb3 recently, it’s fantastic in low light for adding splashes of colour :) in hindsight I may have bought at mt pro, but this does offer expansion
They do compliment each other :) I have the pb 3 and an amaran t2c both are great. The compact size gives a lot of scope for compact spaces
That happened to me with YC Onion. It took almost two months for the products to arrive. It happens quite a bit from what I've found. Great review!
Great video as always! Is there any chance you could review the Digital Sputnik Apollo? Seems like an interesting product i'd like a professional opinion on
Now that's a brand I haven't heard about in a while
@@gaffergear I know, it's been quite silent around this one lately. Still interesting fixtures in my opinion :) While i'm at it, what do you think of the Kelvin Epos lights? They definitely have drawn some attention to themselves
I was wondering if you could use these to play Snake?
Been waiting for this one
What is the specific device youre using to control the lights halfway through the vid? Looks awesome. Great video as always
Exalux control one
I bought four of the PB12 lights and have been satisfied in the limited testing I've done thus far.
The Sidus Link app does have a ton more features than displayed here. The particular sync effects are as Andrew displayed, but there's two more menu systems to dive into, with custom effects, music sync (haven't tested properly), color palettes etc.
Customizing the built in effects like pixel fire can net some interesting results as well.
Super helpful, thank you!
I didn't buy them - figured if they were good, there would be a Gaffer and Gear review. Glad I didn't now I see the hi-speed flicker and app limitation
Great Video! Thanks a lot. I just bought 2 of the PB12 Bars - working great except for the CRMX. I put the Tubes in DMX Profile Mode 20 (D-RGB / 12 Pixels / 48 Channels) connecting via CRMX and the Litecraft CX.1 - there is a great noticeable stutter between the different light engines and there is almost no possibility to do smooth fades, chases or transitions. Tested with different dimming curves and DMX smoothing seems to just do nothing. Also updated to latest firmware and timotwo chip. It seems there is still something wrong with the DMX/CRMX Processing
Is it the same in other profiles?
@@gaffergear the pure RGB and CCT mode seems to work but only if DMX smoothing is turned on. Pixel FX mode works also but is very complicated to use in live situations
Unfortunately I don't have enough DMX knowledge or sophisticated DMX to really thoroughly test. I was watching a demo of these used in a pixel wall, and I noticed looking over at the console that it looked like the tubes were seconds behind the commands
Hey Andrew, this was great, thank you. Question for you: I'm looking for some expert thoughts on how to create a book light that's fairly easy to travel with. Someone online mentioned Inifibars in a 4'x4' configuration. What are your thoughts on that approach? And alternatively, would it be easier to get a studio light, like a 300D, and shoot it through a collapsible 4x4' frame with magic cloth? Thank you!
I think four of these would be a very expensive solution
You' re the man! Thank you!
Thanks very much Andrew
What if i wanna have 2 squares but dont have dmx.. Can't i use another phone with the app?
@@fivelight5693 definitely, it might take a few goes to get them starting in time, but sure, thats a definite solution, and most people have more than one phone sitting around
I’m considering buying either these Aputure Infinibars or the Godox LD150 RGB Panel Light. I’m just not sure which one would make the better key light for a music video and I’m scared of the flickering 😅. What are your thoughts on the flickering? Is it a deal breaker?
You would have to be filming at 100s of frames per second to get flicker
Magic infinite fx, is included in the free version of the app?? or a subscription is needed to get these functions? i can't find it...
I'm not sure, I'm on an Android phone if that makes a difference
What a find!
3/16 is the hex key size
I pulled the tool out of my pocket and was about to comment the same thing
Has anyone compared the brightness of these as compared to Astera Titan / Helios?
36:25
Thank you. I don’t know how I missed that. So if I’m reading this right, the Asteras are a little brighter in daylight and tungsten but when using colors, the Infinibars are the winner?
@@frontfoot1035 Thats right. Colour brightness is all over the place from light to light.
This can also be affected by the colour science, for example an RGBWW light turns on red emitters to go from white to red, whereas an RGBACL light has to turn off its GBACL to do the same.
@@gaffergear Thank you so much. Truly love and count on your content!
There's a frequency selector to make the flicker free
It doesn't help at all if you are shooting at high frame rates. +/- 200Hz isn't enough to fix the flicker issues this thing has.
Is this on the free sidus-link app?
Yes
They look like a very cool product, however, I wonder how useful the pixel tech is in reality? I'd love to see some real life applications of this tech.
I have 16 Titan tubes, everyone wanted me to buy them for the pixel FX. It's been two years, I think I've used pixel FX twice.
I for one use them for working with product photography - I hooked the DMX into unreal engine … this way, unreal engine can show the background that’s projected behind the products and a reverse camera angle can use DMX pixel mapping on these bars to Project the proper contact lighting on the front of the objects so your objects will look like they’re in the virtual world and sit better in the virtual production space for real world photography
@@cjadams7434what software do you use to achieve the DMX pixel mapping technique through unreal engine?
these are not flicker free and green tint damm ,well be making all sorts of corrections to match .....would you say astera is still king of the tubes ?? up to what frame rate without flicker on these aputures ?
Not sure about flicker, I've had issues with Aputure at 1000 fps but I've had viewers tell me they have had no issues at 800 fps.
im only going up to 120 fps ,240fps at most @@gaffergear
what are 3 things the astera titans have over these ? is astera better on lighter skin tones ? @@gaffergear
@@creativegreatsvisuals I've shot at 240 no problem
@@creativegreatsvisuals more pixel control over the app (but it is way more difficult to use) it can mount to a wall and face the camera, and more vibrant colours bacauae of its colour mixing.
I own the kit of 2' units and I absolutely HATE the case. It's too unwieldy for a solo operator. I moved them all to another case and got rid of the original case.
Did you stop reviewing and using mobile apps?
I only use an app if it has integral operations for the light, such as the pixel programs in this case. I have had too many people say the apps didn't work as good as they did in my review, or the apps don't work with multiple lights
Hla. Cuando tendrá este canal en español. Gracias
should have been torx anwyay
Those things to me look crazy overpriced for so little watt power they got