2023 Triumph Street Triple 765 R vs RS! Which one should you buy? | Long-term test
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- Опубліковано 14 жов 2024
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Deputy Editor, Emma Franklin has been running both a Triumph Street Triple 765 R & RS this year as part of MCN's long-term test fleet.
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Emma's experience report was a real pleasure. She is very eloquent, knows exactly what she is taking about and is factual yet entertaining. For me, just seeing the photos of her on the motorcycle is enough to have complete confidence in her opinions.
Definitely someone with whom I would like to spin a few laps on the racetrack. Please have more from her in the future and best regards.
She's entertaining, engaging, knowledgeable, friendly, and very good in front of the camera. Her and Neevesy are very good in this video together. Like to see more from her on these videos.
Triumph could clip lots of this video and use it to sway potential buyers.
She's easy on the eyes as well plus all that you say.
She’s now the Editor, well deserved .
Emma is magic. Such a passionate and knowledgeable rider. Good chemistry between her and Neevesy as well.
The smile on my face, knowing I chose the right bike as my first bike, the 24' White 765R in my garage, makes me happy.
How's your experience so far on the R? I am planning to get it as my first bike as well.
@@AAKEngineI love it but it’s the wrong bike. 3,000km so far, and im looking for alternatives.
@wrenchturners how so?
@@doyouthinkmyusernameistoolong I thought I bought the bike (first bike too) that I thought would carry me through the first 3 years. I'm learning to ride. A big enough big that wouldn't bore me after a season, but not too big to scare me away from riding. I got that right. Its smooth. Its fast. It handles very well. up/down quickshift. Traction control. "triple" noise at full song. ... but I'm forty. No cruise. No heated grips. No screen, let alone fairing. Over 85kmh/h, unless "pushing" is uncomfortable, due to the wind. Riding position is "too" forward after 60-90 minutes. Snatchy throttle at slow speeds. You can feel the plastic of the seat digging into your ass after 90 minutes. ... I've now ridden a GSX-8R, a GSX-S1000GX. The 8R is the same "position" but somehow more comfortable and a lot slower, and not as well built. The GX is way more upright, full screen, cruise, and more powerful, but feels slow, and not as much a fan of the I4 music as I am of the twin or triple. I'm now looking at bikes like the Honda Africa Twin, KTM 890 ADV R, but also Scout 101 and Sportster S. HMU, and I'll go into more detail if you want.
@@wrenchturners that's a well enough description, that's why I see many people say that, "don't go all in for the first bike you might prefer something altogether." By your description it seems that an adventure tourer would be so perfect. I am also thinking about not going all in on the R, might regret it lol. Since aprillia has rs457 seems perfect to start with and maybe go for R if I am actually bored or tired of it. Thanks for the brief info.
Its nice to hear from knowledgeable people about the long-term test bikes you guys get.
Thanks emma and michael , i really enjoy these long term test reviews very thorough and relatable . The dislike points are particularly useful , something an owner you might chat with at your local biker cafe wouldnt necessarily bring up . Totally agree with emma on the build quality , its a work of art so please triumph dont do what everyone else does these days by dropping the finish to save money i’d rather pay a bitt more
That was such a good interview and review. Emma comes across as such an enthusiast. My wife has been riding a Street Triple since 2012. Loves them
I am lucky enough to have the moto2 version. Simply a superb bike, well thought out & engineered. The induction howl around 5-6000rpm & wail from the engine at 10,000 plus just makes you grin
Oh you lucky 🤩 It's pure love, got the rs myself, it's brilliant.
No mention of the colours.
Seems most people buy the RS for either the Red or the Yellow.😊
Exactly. The colours on the RS are❤
Good solid review. 2k miles on mine now and its brilliant. Full Exhaust system and custom tune on mine and it's knocking on 130bhp at the rear wheel. So much fun to ride, handles so well, so involving and versatile to ride and holds it's own in the fast group on track. Loses out on the longer straights but you can catch up through the corners. It's just brilliant.
Hello! Where did you get th3 exhaust and map? Are you in uk? Cheers
@@autoblipper3546 yeah in the uk. spark headers, akrapovic exhaust and Rapidbike tuning module and a custom tune in the dyno.
@@twistandgo3414 how much was the full system? I see racefit is 1500
@@autoblipper3546 I bought the headers separately.. Probably about 1400 all in.
Great review. I have a 2018 R, 17.4lt tank, and absolutely love it. Its been on tour to Wales, Scotland and The Picos. Personally think my era of R is one of the best kept biking secrets. Light, agile, economical, fun and with a great soundtrack. I don't understand why people buy naked bikes with more power. You can't use it on the road.
Keep up the brilliant reviews.👍🏻
Bought a used 2018R 2 years ago as my first big bike and I’m still enjoying it until today. Cheers!
Same here sir, I live in nz and absolutely pleasure to ride it
How is the reliability? Any problems?
@@alexbusteni I've suffered no reliability issues at all. Mine is up to 20k miles. Was fully serviced by a competent mechanic who was surprised at the quality of everything.
Thank you for a great summary for each bike. The R was a great value purchase which does bring out the devil in you. The quick shifter is superb and adds to the fun factor. Great job Triumph 👏👏👏
Love this review!
The R is for the smart guy but the RS is the emotional (and badass) buy.
I'm not ashamed to admit I got the RS because it would itch my brain knowing I settled for "sensible and good enough" on the R 😂
I got the RS because it was yellow 😂
Excellent review by two people who know what their talking about , it was a pleasure to meet her and her Editor boss at the NEC show in November. i have an rs in my fleet of bikes and agree with everything that emma said keep up the good work Emma and Michael all the best for 2024 regards Mark.
Have a 2020 RS, I think the dash is too busy/complex. In track mode I expected a rev and maybe gear focused display but still the speedo dominates with a barely readable rev. Would prefer the 23 R dash's simplicity. But everything said was spot on. It just makes you ride it like you stole it. If you not doing frequent track days go for the R. On the road like we have in the UK I keep the suspension settings on Road, saves your back for real-saying as a young(ish) person. Quality is top notch, better than some Japanese-no name shaming. A nuance to wash-as said, but everyone stares at it when I do in front of the garage. Emma was spot on with everything she said.
Great review, totally agree. These are the most sorted middleweight bikes, everything just works and makes them easy to ride!
I absolutely love my RS, got a red one 😍 I got clipons and higher rearset on mine. It really is a fantastic bike.
Two experienced bike fans having a great chat about a brilliant bike - happy days !
I have no idea what it is either, but I drive my R like a hooligan as well! That said, I hardly ever get out of 3rd in town, and my bike isn’t at all loud. A little too quiet really. I do love it though.
You don’t drive a bike ! 😁
Excellent review. I bought a matt black R last year, absolutely love it, prefer the finish to this years model, and far prefer the analogue tacho. Also, don't like the reflectors on the front calipers on this years. And yes, it's super comfy, can ride it for hours.
l own a 2014 675 R .here in Spain ..just love it. its light, nimble and when in hooligan mode its glorious....
Great in depth review, it's reviews like these that really help make your purchase decisions.
Great video. Thank you. A simple sprocket change will fix the short gearing which will then allow you to set it to your individual requirements (track or road).
I always lower my bikes gearing, so I'd probably enjoy this. Usually they're geared way too long...
@@lordgibbness For street riding I tend to leave them stock. However, when I was racing I’d use different sets all relative to the longest straight. The longer the straights the higher gearing. The only downside from nearly 1,000 laps around my old home track being Phillip Island is the start. Especially if you’ve qualified on the first 3 rows as in these positions, with sprockets to increase max speeds it also makes a quick launch a little bit harder as these grid positions are also up hill by just over 5%.
@@marcusgeorge1825 yeah good idea to set accordingly on the track. For the road, I found both my supernaked's geared too high. My Aprilia, I added 4 teeth to the rear. My BMW, I took 2 teeth away from the front (although I may balance this a little by taking 1 tooth away from the rear also). My mt07 is quite short geared so it's pretty much how you'd want it stock (although it should be running a 520 chain really).
@@lordgibbness Chain wise, I just stay with the size it comes with from the factory as they know more about this than most do and just have a couple of different sprockets as options.
@@marcusgeorge1825 you'll have bikes like the Aprilia rs660 on 520 chains. Most 520s are rated up to 800cc. The 525 will last a little longer though. I always stick to 525 on my litre bikes (even though you can get very high quality 520 chains like they run in MotoGP - it's just not worth the cost).
So excited to pick up my new Street Triple RS in March or April!
Awesome review by Emma!! Greetings from Spain
Emma and Neevs should take on a project together. They are by far my favourite motorcycle journalists. I used to by performance bike just because of Emma's articles.
Bought the RS, best bike I’ve owned and I’ve had a few 😊
Any 1000 cc? I have an old GSX-R1000 k2,and want to make a change! But my friends still got 1000 supersport and I'm wandering if I can keep the peace with them(twisty roads,not straight lines)!
@@alexbusteni Rsv4 and a k5 Gixer thou, although it’s not as fast in a straight line it’s just more fun everywhere else
Thanks MCN. I was all over the place wondering if I should buy the Street Triple, but the digs towards the MT-09 has made my mind up. I'm going to pre-order the 2024 mt-09 sp. Thanks again :)
Its damn near a perfect bike. In the off season I flirt with other bikes, but then I ride my 765RS and I'm completely satisfied. It's an amazing bike. It's all you need for the road.
I prefer the dash on the R, the RS taco is hard to read no matter what format it's in
For me the 765R may be all I would likely need....
The 765R is available in white, has more basic clocks & road orientated tyres. I also believe the ergo's are slightly more road suited
Heated grips & perhaps cruise control boxes would be ticked.
Great vid but urban fuelling manners not discussed (often the case with bike reviews etc)
Thanks both.
The road setting for fueling is smooth. Sport fueling has a slight bit of abruptness when rolling on from zero.
@@CheetoPhingers Cheers for that ...appreciated TY
Oh Triumph, just give me a version with some wind protection! Even just an upper fairing would probably do (but keep the 'bars as they are). Fantastic video guys, the R and RS seem like great bikes but for me, my last two bikes were naked and I'm looking for a change next time round 😊
I'm glad that Triumph have kept the R in their lineup and on paper it was my choice over the RS for the power delivery that Emma talked about. This is a great video. Thanks MCN and Emma.
IMO the rev-counter dash on the RS is terrible! I don't like the "wings" that change colour. Surely Triumph could easily change this with a firmware update? The display options on the Speed 1200 RS are way better. Just my opinion but I haven't heard many journos comment on it.
Couldn't agree more. That is the biggest negative I found on my 20 RS. Has track focused suspension and electronics settings, only the display has no real track mode.
The whole dash looks horrible I prefer the analogue dash from triumph
My Speed 1200's dash options are terrible compared to my old '18 Street Triple RS's. Speed has two options that are slight color changes and that's it. The '18 RS had 3 main options that changed the whole layout of the dash and tach. Not sure why Triumph continues to make the dash worse for the Speed and newer Street.
@@jpow4893 yeah, the dash on my 2018 1050 RS was excellent. I had assumed the dash on the 1200 was similar.
Triumph actually had it on the 17-19 RS but are reflashing older bikes coming in for service with the wing design. They're doubling down on the design
Great comparison Team. Your spot on with cruise needing to be standard especially with the shorter gearing now and small tank. Please tell Hinckley to sort out the format options on the RS tft too. Love your politeness on that item but it's really a visual arcadic mess 👾✌️ 😎
You said, that you don't know what the magic in this bike is that makes it feel a good fit for everyone, either a beginner or seasoned rider. And I think it's the torque distribution. You don't get thrown off at lower revs, but you can readjust the smile on your face with how quickly and how far you turn on the gas... :)
(That in combination with the overall handling)
Great video! Emma is amazing.. Awesome review. I always enjoy these. Best!
Wonderful review. I own a 675R and 765RS, these bikes leave me spoiled on street and track. Looking forward to a comparison between 765RS/Moto2 and the new MT09SP
I've got the original Triumph 3 cylinder, the 750 Trident.
They do sound excellent 🙂
I ended up with the 765 RS when your spending near £10k might as well go for the RS specially for a first time full cat A bike i went from a benelli leonchino 125cc to it, its a hell of a bike upgrade! in red as well! Heated grips as well are a godsend! and 188kg weight baring im only 5ft4 and lower seat height as well as the 10mm drop from the dealership (A1 Moto amazing experiance)
I'm curious about the forks on the R. There was so much fork dive out of the box on the RS that I was grateful that I could get the damping set the way I wanted on my RS.
After the Daytona 765 this Street Triple RS is my most favourite bikes. It looks breathtakingly beautiful from all the possible angles …
I recently purchased a 2023 Tiger 900 GT Pro as my first bike which I use to commute and will soon be touring in May. I've fully upgraded with dash cams and crash bars and wireless charging etc. Instead of uprading to a bigger bike down the road I can see my buying a second bike instead, a street tripple. The 900 is perfect for what I need it for so why change now I've got it the way I want. Better add the weekend warrior instead and the tripple looks perfect and you can pick up sme good used deals.
Would’ve loved to get the RS. The one thing no one talks about here in the US? The bogus fees dealers charge. That’s the only reason why I switched from Triumph to Kawasaki. And thankful I’d did! I love my Kawi!
I’ve be been kind of in the market for a Speed or Street Triple-my wife has an 18 765RS that she (and I) dearly love. It doesn’t have quite enough leg room for me, but I can still do a 5 hour country ride on it without too much trouble. We had a dealer demo day locally this summer and I was fortunate to try the R and RS street triples and the 1200RS… the RS had the leg room I was looking for, but a small tank and similar range to the superbikes I currently have range issues with…. On a bike I’m looking to ride longer distances with. To top it off, IMO, after riding them back to back the 765RS is just a better, more refined motorcycle than the 1200. I wish I could get one with more leg room…. Trident 765RS anyone?
As for R and RS, I’d definitely go for the RS. It may only be a few percent here or there between them, but it’s a Big few percent and noticeable when ridden back to back. On the engine side it probably won’t matter if you reflash the ECU anyway as they are the same motor internally, but you don’t buy a premium naked like a Street Triple to get the less exciting option… that’s what middleweight twins are for..;)
Currently own a 2019 Speed RS. Thinking of switching to the Street RS less displacement would cost less for insurance and storage. Performance wise the new StreetRS sounds like it would be a step up…
Would appreciare comments from people who’ve been on both. Pet pieve of bikes, regular guy never gets to try them…
Literally the bike I’ve got my eye on
Emma you convinced me! I have just placed an order for a red 765RS!! Great review!!
I agree about about the Ohlins rear shock being set slightly too hard for day to day riding and I ended up on the comfort setting, the TFT is the one downer but by no means a deal breaker.
How hard is it to adjust?
I bought the RS. You can do premium mods that you can’t do on the R. Cruise control and TPMS being the 2 mods I did.
Looking at getting an R. My last bike was a ZX7 bought new in 1996, I’ve never ridden anything with any electronics or even fuel injection. In my late 50’s now and the 7 is too uncomfortable.
Anything I need to know about riding bikes with electronics, ride by wire etc? Thanks great review
Excellent review Street triples have always been do it all .But somehow still make you so alive when you decide to play
Great video. Just love the R and the RS. I nearly bought the R (better price, good enough) but when i called my insurance company (also checked others) the insurance cost is insane here in Sweden. Its almost double the price as my Triumph 900 GT Pro. How is that possible? Then i checked the insurance cost at the 2023 Honda CBR650R and its around the same price as my 900 GT. Its a pity when you want a good second bike. No i just wait to try the new Honda Cbr650r or buy the 2023 model. Yes its a different bike but still a sporty bike. When i buy a second bike i consider even more the overall cost and a big part of that its the insurance cost. Its sad just love this Triumph R and RS 😢
I bought the R and love it. I also bought a Rally Aragon 900 and the dash is the same as the 765RS that was nearly a deal breaker. I hate it !!!
When Triumph finally listen to people and fit a decent TFT dash to the RS I might buy one. Really thought that would have been one of the changes made from the previous model. Sadly it wasn't
This review was mint and Emma articulated it extremely well
This is absolute gold .. perfect review
Luv Emma, luv Neevsy and luv Triumph.
Great vid 👍
She does a good job explaining the differences.
Fantastic video, very informative!
She knows her stuff and a really good review!!
Great bike,great interview.Thks.
I think it’s icy silver that will grow on you after few months, yellow you may like it the moment you see it, how about after 6 months of owning it ?
The R is absolutely the better buy as a road bike, and with discounts/availability the price difference vs the RS can be significant.
Great review. Editing guy: CAPTIONS pls. Still asking. How can Neevesy on his own manage it and MCN can't?
If this and the R are actually all day comfortable and it's possible to tour on it, then this will probably be my next bike
@@paulb3243remove the spacer and it’s basically the same ergonomically
11:20 where it's said the bike is all day comfortable. Please d oes anyone know if that is the same for the pillion; 'all day comfort'? That rear seat while maybe adequate looks somewhat small, but I may to totally wrong.
Love these bikes, I have a 1050 speed triple RS. Only down side, on the street triples RS, is the graphics, on the TFT! Nowt wrong, over all. Just the pointless rev counter, options. They are over complicated. Utterly useless.
I disagree about the cost difference between the r and rs, you buy the r and one day you turn up at a meet and someone parks the rs next to you and it's all over😁 Also the colour choices let alone all the extra in parts. Cruise control isn't available on the R I've heard too if that's your thing. Anyway looking forward to get my Rs in march.
If the R had the same colour options as the RS, it would be the easiest decision. But personally, only having shades to choose from on the R sucks.
Enjoyed the review
Kinda crashed my RS last summer on track. Drove over some oil dump after the straight.. so at least wasnt my or the bike fault
I've got a Moto2 and an older RS. While I've taken the Moto2 touring around Europe, it's not a good idea and unless you're going to take it on a lot of trackdays just get the RS
Subbed to Neevesybikes - Emma do you have your own channel? You are awesome.
Would the RS be better than the R for a fatty like me? I'm 5'9 and 105kg, so I was wondering if the presumably higher spring rates of the RS would better cope with my ampleness.
I am a fatty and the street triple is still good. Suspension is very firm on the RS.
It’s a shame after all that Moto 2 development they cannot stretch to a 3 year warranty. Also valve check comes in at 12k quite early in a bike life for a big money service.
Most bikes are great blasting along flowing roads. But what’s it like when riding with slower riders and your short shifting all day. Does the drive train snatch and is the qs smooth when not under load. Some real world stuff we need to now. Not bothered what your favourite track is. By the way mines oulton.
I think the r will be a really great seller next year 😊
I have the RS!!
Jolie vidéo merci ❤️ ❤️ ❤️ ❤️
The R may be the better road bike and the better value proposition, but have you considered the fact that the RS is yellow?
The RS’s speedo display is an utter disaster, terrible arty-farty over complicated crap 💩!
Also that rear brake line just bugs the hell outta me ☹️
Why make it silver! ..stands out like a sore thumb when the rest of the bike is black/greyish
And,..such messy untidy routing, surely they could have put a little effort into hiding it behind the swing arm, it’s like they deliberately wanted to make it look as offensive as possible, get your act together Triumph 🤷🏻♂️?
I will buy 765, but I dont now if I go R or RS. Can anybody help me with answer? I ride sporty but not on the track. I own super sport, but now is position a issue for me.
An R will do
Great bikes👌🏼👌🏼
I bought a 2018 Street Triple RS. Beautiful to look at. Amazing to ride. Would never buy another Triumph!!!!!! It spent more time in the dealers workshop because it kept breaking. Put me off for life. Buy Japanese!!!!
With either bike you will find yourself doing an extra lap of your favorite roundabout and other unusual things.
How’s the reliability?
I wish triumph don't change this particular design language in their next iteration... only engine change is okay.. I'm saving money to buy this bike.
1st time I hear compliments to the triumph dashboard
Emma you're so cool. My role model. ❤
can you remove the rev limiter?
It always amazes me how the average person thinks someone is knowledgeable because they "sound" knowledgeable l, not because of their substance. Emma for example says, while speaking of the RS, that it has seperate function forks. It does not. The R does.
I had the Speed Triple 1200 Rs , guess what…..? It wasn’t perfect,.. who cares 🤷🏾? It was great fun and it goes fast !
Speedo on previous R was much better.
The suspension tool is held in with a clip that's not up to the job. That tape is not standard 😂
Obviously I don't know many of these obvious things which is why I'm watching obviously.
Cosmic Yellow is worth the extra few thousand bucks folks, trust me.
I sold a RS I had because the suspension was so hard, even backed off. It wasn't a nice bike to ride and I felt the top end flat.
Is this better than a MT09SP?
Want more punch from the engine? get the mt09
Having test ridden the RS and MT09SP on consecutive weekends back in October, my personal preference is for the Yamaha. It has the more refined engine in the top half of the revband, marginally better suspension and understandably more midrange torque. The one thing that I prefer on the Triumph is it’s less upright riding position.
What about the STR vs the base MT-09?
Smaller tank means less materials so they can make more money.
Havent mentioned you cant wheelie the r
One of these or a Tiger 900?