Kindof realistic, since people who grew up with a language usually speak more laid-back and not so correct, whereas someone who learned the language will usually speak it more correctly and without slang and similar things
@@williepearl278What it means is that -- well -- since Old Norse is a dead language, they reconstruct the pronunciation based of descendant languages (Swedish, Danish, Icelandic, etc.) and the sound shifts recorded over time. These sound shifts are recorded by means of say, poems and canons by contemporary authors of such languages -- by for example noticing rhyme sequences that used to seem to rhyme, but don't rhyme anymore.
Well in real life it was al over in 3 days ..Bjorn raided Luna and then he was beaten defeated crushed and almost Al his ships burned down by the Arabic leder .. Abd ar-Rahman
+Amina R. It so happens that I can speak Arabic to a degree. But eventhough Icelandic shares many sounds with Arabic, the two languages are still vastly different. Languages tend to be easier to learn when they're closer to you. Hebrew for Arabs, Icelandic for Danish people, etc. Furthermore, exposure to a host of different accents doesn't make you better at speaking languages. Native English speakers are constantly faced with foreign accents, yet they tend to perform worse than other speakers as far as using foreign languages is concerned. What matters is exposure to foreign languages. People from countries like Belgium, Luxemburg, Switzerland and China are more likely to be plurilingual and to speak those languages well than people from countries like Saudi Arabia, Great-Britain or Germany. Typically, Arabs are known for how bad they are at speaking foreign languages, often showcasing poor synthax and poor word choices. In this case, Khaled Abo Al-Naga doesn't come from a context where he had to learn how to speak multiple languages very well, as Arabic is all he actually needed as an Egyptian person. In other words, Al-Naga's proficiency has nothing to do with his origins and all to do with his dedication, skill and talent.
Isakaldaz Wulfazizsunus Arabs are known to be bad at speaking another language? Talk about pulling nonsense out of your ass. Everyone is typically bad at speaking another language, especially if it's a language that doesn't belong to the same language family as the person's mother tongue. However, the people in Saudi Arabia who speak English do so quite well. Some sound exactly like Americans. There are plenty of US comedians who are flabbergasted by this fact when they travel to Saudi Arabia. The people in Japan do so poorly. This difference is the result of shyness and exposure. Both Saudi and Japanese are perhaps equally exposed to English but the first group is more brazen at trying to converse than the latter. I don't know what world you live in where you consider people in Belgium and China to be masters of language considering they typically only speak well the languages that are close to their mother tongue.
@@vamsavardhanavijay5532 all societies practiced slavery, even North American Native peoples. Do some reading, champ. Yours is an incredibly stupid comment.
Anytime someone makes you question a basic fact by saying ‘you don’t understand how it works here’ they really are saying ‘I have a racket so don’t mess with me’
Well it's a pretty accurate description of Arab-Byzantine dynamics, but as a Tunisian I have two problems with the description. First Tunisia anciently known as Ifriqiya or Africa isnot at all a Desert, its nickname in Arabic is "Al Khadhra", meaning: the Green. And it has always been a fertile Land, since the time of Carthage, this is why Ziyadat Allah kingdom thrived so much at that time, the desert is in the extreme south of the country and Kairouan/Al Qayrawan, the capital city at that time was not in the desert despite bein the only Tunisian capital inland, it had at that time between 100 and 200.000 inhabitants, which is huge, the city was well provided with water and is situated in the actual Tunisian steppa, which became a steppa due to desertification and the troubles of 1055 invasion and civil war, this is also why the capital city moved again to Tunis near Carthage. The other point is why the hell did they make Emir Ziyadat Allah a cannibla ???? This is ridiculous ! The only mad and tyrannical ruler of this dynasty was Ibrahim II who ruled Ifriqiya from 875 to 902 and he was pretty good during his first ten years. This is the only one who might have been portrayed as a cannibal (there was rumors but he was more of an Ivan the Terrible).
Yeah I didn’t really like how they made the Muslims cannibals. But then again, this show made fun of every religion and culture and had a lot of inaccuracies
He wasn't a cannibal I think, in this show he made the vikings eat human meat by accident so he could have a justification to capture them. For what reason, I don't know. Maybe turn them into another type of mamlukes. Imagine that, Viking mamlukes.
Ottomans are joke but yah ertuğrul and usman wasn't after them all were lustyfilty creaters abuser and sxaddicts . Ottomans are not the rulers of europe they aren't european instead they enslavrd europeans.
@Nyne And that's where your wrong Nyne, there is no such thing as "Objective History". That's a paradigm of the Victim culture. In history at one time or another evryone is the martyr and monster at different points in their lives. History is collection of amalgamation of many different points of view often interpreting the same event. It is through this tapestry of eyes and minds that we come to our collective history as we know it and perceive it. To say "Real History" is often wrong, is a fool's notion....People have bias and opinions and they show up in their writings, throughout all of time. This is how Archeologists, Geologist, Anthropologist, etc....Look at the collective facts, sources, records etc and make the best determination possible as to what is "True" and False". DNA and Geneology are really making great leaps foward in determining historical fact and fiction. Just thought I'd include this in hear because this is the new frontier in history..Genetic Archeology.
just gonna point out unless those historian write a book and get the prize for literature ......there are only nobel prizes for medicine,physics,chemistry,peace and literature.
But that's the problem with the show though... A mythology presented as history! It's like mixing the phrases of great philosophers and saying that someone else invented them. It's simply wrong!
The moment the commander Euphemius knew he was fucked, is pure gold, as he knew he had lied to the Norsemen and now his lies were exposed by the Emir himself.
can u sum it up for me? idk how i got here since i don’t watch the show (i tried but there was so much rape and killing and i didnt understand how i could root for them for doing it) but im curious
Why are people so butthurt? Many Vikings raided the Mediterranean Shores, some settled, a few even converted and started serving as household guards to local Emirs
Individual conversions are hard to see in the historical record, especially given the fact that the vikings did not leave written records behind during this era. Historical records are not the be all, end all, to seeing the past because sometimes they have biases and may exclude certain information for certain reasons contemporary to their time. Also they don't always record everyday occurrences in society since those are taken for granted. This is broadly speaking but historical records are usually done by the educated and elite, they won't portray an accurate picture of people outside those distinctions. So I don't think it's safe to say that none converted but it's more reasonable to assume that majority probably did not.
Exactly, I don't get it either. Ziyadat Allah was a real, historical figure, the man who conquered Sicily. Bjorn is also a (semi) historical figure, who was known to travel to the Medditereanian Sea. Hell, the sources even mention that he went to both Sicily and North Africa, so it's quite possible that those two met, but it's only a speculation. Norsemen as a whole had extensive trade relations with Muslim world. Arabic coins were found all over the Scandinavia. Arabs mostly bought furs and slaves from them. Norsemen were known as best mercenaries at the time, and they were everywhere. Frankish, English and other Christian rulers hired them often. Some of them were part of elite Varangian Guard to the Roman Emperors in Constantinople. We also know for a fact that some of them worked as mercenaries all around Muslim world. Hell, Arabs had even whole slave armies made up from Slavic slaves, so it's not that impossible to imagine that Norsemen who sold those slaves were also working for various Arab rulers as well. We know that around this time some bands of Norsemen ended up in Al-Andalus, converted to Islam (that's why they found runestones with the name "Allah" on it) and raided most of western Medditeranian. Sure, the show is FAR from being accurate - I myself was a bit butthurt when out of the blue, Floki said that he finds Islam more compatible to him than Christianity, for example. I also don't like the extensive usage of shieldmaidens in the show. And don't get me started on clothing and armour in particular - it's all wrong. I've finished watching the series once the whole Medditeranian arc was finished - as a Byzantophile it was fun to see Roman controlled Sicilly (even if what I saw wasn't accurate at all), but I wasn't really interested in the history of Ragnar's sons. Don't get me wrong, real history of the sons of Ragnar is REALLY interesting, but as the show progressed, it became more and more fantasy like (Chinese princess, daughter of Emperor himself, ends up in Scandinavia - come on :D). First season was great. Had that authentic feel to it, even though it wasn't always accurate. I loved the usage of various language in the show, too. One of my favourite episodes was the one from season 1, episode 8 (I think), when the Ragnar, his family and Athelstan went to Uppsala. Really great episode. Even siege of Paris arc wasn't as interesting as seeing some aspects of Norse culture, IMHO.
+MR BlackandWhite There were Vikings who converted to Islam. You can find certain North Africans currently with Nordic features even now, and they were likely descended from them.
In all honesty, I like how he starts the conversation. He surprises them by knowing and speaking their language and begins a deep discussion about their and his own theology in order to quickly break the ice. I like the Vikings' surprised and confused face expressions during the first few seconds. Also if you pay attention to how he greets Eiphimeus, it can be deduced that there is some kind of pressure between them. And from how he greets Zemphira (correct me regarding her name please) - they are attracted to each other.
having had friends from that region,i can say they did not underscore the hospitality of the Arab people. They're incredibly hospitable, and if you say you would like to have this or that,even if you mean you intend to achieve it on your own, don't be surprised if you find it on your doorstep courtesy of your Arabian friends. It is a grave insult to try and return it out of modesty,too...they will tell you that God had willed that it be yours,and to return it to them is like spiting in the face of God.
@@cristristam9054 hahahaha they will probably answer by swearing that you will take it, in which case you won’t have a choice because if you still refuse it would be insulting, since muslims believe that if someone swears on something and they don’t do it/ doesn’t happen they will be punished by god for carelessly swearing by his name or they will have to fast for 3 days to make up for it.
@@abdelnasserwardani3346 I am half arab ,my father is from Bagdad i lived in Bagdad for a few years and I interacted with arabs in many countries all the stuff I said above works. Most non arabs just don't take it there and don;t say god wills i won;t take it.
Its hilarious because these are the same lot going around declaring anyone who opposes their pov as "snowflakes" and yet get triggered so easily by a freakin tv show which is based on a historical setting but in no way is a depiction of what exactly happened! As for mutual respect existing between Muslim people and the norse, this is recorded by Muslim sources as well. "They (norse) carry clean clothes and the men adorn themselves with bracelets and gold. They treat their slaves well and also they carry exquisite clothes, because they put great effort in trade. They have many towns. They have a most friendly attitude towards foreigners and strangers who seek refuge." From Ahmad Ibn Rustah's "Book of Previous Records".
Got to be honest, its interesting to see other lands and cultures, it gets boring when focused on just the one settlement. And why are people complaining historical inaccuracy? The show has already been playing fast and loose with its historical portrayals, not to mention the supernatural images with odin, haarbard and even god. Things and places like this make the show interesting. The difference however between all the different criticisms,(and the one that has actual merit in my eyes) is whether or not these plot threads go any where. Yidu, a chinese character in season 3, was slammed for apparent cultural diversification, her apparence didnt trigger me, she couldve been an interesting character. What makes me indifferent of her is how her storyline went *FUCKING....NOWHERE* . I feel the same way here. Unless they return to this place or we see these characters again, the show wasted 45-60 minutes of cumilative screen time with these scenes in the mediterranean.
Because as you said yourself "Its nice to see other cultures and lands" Now cultures and lands in this show are so grossly missrepresented people watching will think "oh yes this is how x people lived"
this plotline helped create the bond between bjorn and halfdan, to justify halfdan fighting against his brother later on the show, which gave a dramatic element to the battle with brother fighting brother. halfdan also evolved as a character with his voyage to the mediterranean
Supernatural is very real fool!! And vikings did see demons passing as theire "gods" do you think they would ask from help from a "seer" that is just making up stories about talking with gods??? People were not dumb or crazy in ancient epochs
Hmm...so it's confirmed that it's Halfdan the Black, who was supposed to be Harald's father instead of brother, but he probably play the role of Hastein, celeb to be a common friend and Allie of Bjorn Ironside.
@@Jow2002 There's a viking age Andalusian Muslim source that mentions a failed raid on Seville. Those that weren't killed or escaped, ended up settling and becoming cheesemakers. :-)
In my Journey in the lands of internet, one day I stumbled upon a page, Norwegians having a deity with 99 names and each of them had attributes similar to what Allah has. 15yrs ago, and now I am searching for that page again. Islam did spread everywhere once, what caused it to be forgotten, I am curious to know and find out what teaching we have in common currently, which might have survived in those nations.
Då måste jag känna mig i lugn och ro för att vara en muslim i Sverige, visar att jag har varit en del av Skandinavien för länge länge sen. Roligt är också att jag förstår nästan allting dem säger trotts att jag inte varken svensk eller skandinavisk.
The relations between Arabs and muslims and people of Midlle East and other parts of North Africa and Vikings were more than excellent and Vikings were very open minded too.
The Mad Baron Primitive Muslim areas do cut clitorises. In Turkey, back in the 70's, underdeveloped and illiterate Kurds in the east done this practice.
I think it was meant to show the extention of Nordic reach coupled with the complexity of the political situation then as opposed to pedestrian belive. Also it shows a gruesome scene after that where they want to show that the seemingly cultured appearance of the Mediterranean powers, compared to the Viking life style, has a more savage and practical underbelly in reality. Well I might be wrong but that's how I sees it
I thought the Byzantines were most of the time at war with their neighbours or at least preparing for war? I mean, I know how their diplomacy worked and the portrayal in the show symbolizes the situation on a personal dimpolatic level but it's not how the diplomacy actually was. The emperor routinely sparked rebellions, gathered intel on foreign ambitions and politics; distracted or destroyed his enemies by supporting their rivals and to conclude Byzantine diplomacy was therefore mainly a means for war without soldiers dying on battlefields and the neighbours always were opportunistic, sending presents and men one year only to invade in the next should the time seem right. There were few allies of Constantinople for centuries - and most of its neighbours and especially with Asia Minor the sword was a more commen embassador. en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arab-Byzantine_wars
The Byzantine diplomacy was well known after the fall of Constantinople in order to maintain the Empire as long as the Turks were not well educated the Byzantines hijacked their minds actually. PS Wikipedia is good but for Byzantine matters and Orthodox Christianity is 100% propaganda written by the westerns!
I don't know but it would have been incredible to see it, too bad it lasted very little, I would have loved to see all of bjorn's trips through the Mediterranean
In someway of course people from the north ended up in the south but wait:At that time,italy was controlled by Goths,then there kingdom failed,but even now in northen italy the people are more germanic then italian(even though its a mix) same for every other land that has access to the mediteranian(i probably spelled it wrong,whatever).But that people are talking here about raids in southern Europe,is a joke lol.Again on some levels everything is possible,but the vikings never possesed lands on south europe.The way they had to take was even for them a risk,then don't forget history can never be 100% accurate.
I am a Muslim and not offended. They have been fighting Islam on TV for decades...WE, however, fighting it on the ground, in REAL LIFE...tell me: what do you see around you when you walk in the streets? Any streets in any country? :) ENJOY life as a movie or a show. All lies eventually fades and only the truth remains. If you could beat God you would've done it already...but keep fighting, it's better this way in so many ways.
What do I see on streets? People going to work, kids going to school, and some tourists. 😉 Btw I doubt this TV show would fight Islam in any way. If it fights someone it's the Christians because they are the enemies of the protagonists, the Vikings. And they are portrayed as very bad. Like this Christian nun in this particular scene, she is the mistress of the Emir.😄
Historical information you should know before watching: Who is Ziyadat Allah ? Ziyadat Allah was Aghlabid Prince (Aghlabid: Arab dynasty of north Africa Funded by the Abbasids) ruler of Ifriqiya (Current Tunisia and Sicily). Aghlabids was not Cannibals of course! Location and Climate of Al-Qayrawān: (Kairouan was not a desert !) Located in the center of Tunisia in a plain at almost equal distance from the sea and the mountain, Kairouan is the most ancient Arabo-Muslim base of the Maghreb founded in (670AD) when the Arab general Uqba ibn Nafi selected a site (in the middle of a dense forest, then infested with wild beasts and reptiles at the foot of the atlas mountain range). Kairouan considered as the principal holy city in the Maghreb.
well, slavs and vikings did clash, but since slavs dont make for good slaves for some reason (look at balkan) they probably allied or something. but to say Russia is a viking concept is wrong simply because of religion. Slavic pagans had Belobog and Charnobog, not Odin or Thor. But I see where u are saying.
I never quite understood what was happening here, I know they kill old boy and eat him but I dont get the undertone about the emperor being his enemy and why did old boy get eaten.
Euphemius is a former governor of Sicily and has rebelled against the Emperor in constantinople, he's trying to get support from the Arabs to take Sicily back from the Romans and establish his own kingdom. In real life they just used him to take Sicily for themselves.
Of course not, there's not any single historical source that mentioned the cannibalism in the life of the prince Zyiadat. The serie is a western serie, westerners enjoy demonizing Arabs in their series it very known.
Byzantines, Arabs and Vikings all in the same room... Sounds like a joke but unfortunately it's not. It's just another part of this ''historical'' show!
Well they didn't get along all the time, but the Norse made deals with both people quite often. Like fighting as mercs for the Byzantines and selling slaves from the north to the muslims.
Muslim to Viking, "Oh no! We have NO REASON to be at war with the emperor." Viking reaction, "he just lied loooool". Thusly goes Bjorn's first expose on taquiya/kitman.
I would say salaam to everyone if i could. One thing that i'm not doing so is afraid offending them with different beliefs by greeting them on Islam way
Spurious if u say Saudi is worse then my brother u are not knowing what u are talking about give me one person that bowed to anyone in Saudi and if the guy he bowed to liked it or not they don’t bow in Saudi because of tradition and islam
Spurious I am from Saudi Arabia and I descend from a very good family in the north , we are called " Tamimi " , I am 23 years old friend and I would ask you kindly not to throw wrong accusations like our kings demand bowing and ring kissing. There is respect tho .. In every age of a muslim leader or president bowing was not required, actually our prophet Mohammed taught us to be humble and not to distinguish one over the other except in How much of a good deeds you have . I just wanted to make thar clear to you because man I am so tired of people judging and saying things that are not true . I apologize for taking so much of your time . May God continue to ease all of your affairs my dear .
It's kinda stupid how they portray this Emir a residing in the middle of a desert while in reality he'd be living in such a Palace that was not seen anywhere else in Europe (apart from Muslim Spain) for the next 800 years.
@@matikhorasani3842 The Colosseum and the Pantheon were built before the coming of Christ, and they are way more superior than any arabic construction.
@@xxJ0hnMartinxx The buildings of Mesopotamia and Egypt were constructed thousands of years before Rome was even created and were far more advanced than than anything built during Rome's imperial height. So by bringing up ancient history, you still lose.
@@matikhorasani3842 The Mesopotamians? Oh yeah, like the Sumerians who were not Semitic, so have nothing to do with Islam or Arabs. What's left is the Babylonians, Assyrians, Akkadians, and they didn't construct anything that was more advanced than the Colosseum, aqueducts, etc. The only thing to surpass it would be the Pyramids of Giza, and they also weren't made by Arabs or Muslims. They were made by Egyptians were not Arabs.
@@ArthaxtaDaVince777 the Romans came two thousand years after those civilizations and yet they were not even half as advanced as the Mesopotamian civilizations were in their prime. Unless you have studied Mesopotamian history in university please don't talk.
@@matikhorasani3842 Lmao, that is an false, the Romans were vastly ahead of the Mesopotamians. Your lack of knowledge on history is showing, as is your blind nationalism. The Romans produced armor like this www.larp.com/legioxx/lorback.jpg, and were vastly ahead of the Mesopotamian in technology and warfare.
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Bjorn : How come you speak our language ?
Emir Zidayat : That is Easy, I have been watching Viking since season One.
Wish this was a blooper.
@@17Watman How so?
“I LISTENED”
-Arab.
"...Yeah Bjorn, and how do we both speak a language that hasn't been invented yet?"
Its always nice to see characters in fiction engaging in actual diplomacy.
His norse pronounciation is better than the actors portraying vikings.
Hahahaha true
Kindof realistic, since people who grew up with a language usually speak more laid-back and not so correct, whereas someone who learned the language will usually speak it more correctly and without slang and similar things
Are they speaking old norse, or modern?
@@wallolo I remember reading somewhere that they were speaking reconstructed old Norse. I’m not exactly sure what that means though.
@@williepearl278What it means is that -- well -- since Old Norse is a dead language, they reconstruct the pronunciation based of descendant languages (Swedish, Danish, Icelandic, etc.) and the sound shifts recorded over time.
These sound shifts are recorded by means of say, poems and canons by contemporary authors of such languages -- by for example noticing rhyme sequences that used to seem to rhyme, but don't rhyme anymore.
I wanted to see so much more of Björns adventure here, it felt so short and it was my favorite part in the series
Well in real life it was al over in 3 days ..Bjorn raided Luna and then he was beaten defeated crushed and almost Al his ships burned down by the Arabic leder .. Abd ar-Rahman
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@@ryufight7987yeah ofc .....fellow muslim singing all the praises. Lol how deluded u people are
@@tejasviratmishra5168bro just read the history everything is there lol , let go of your anger and hate
@@tejasviratmishra5168shut up lol how ironic coming from an avg indian
That feel when the Muslim character from Berber Africa pronounces Old Norse better than the fucking Vikings.
That's what I thought as well. Well, the man spoke modern Icelandic mostly, but yeah, the Vikings' Old Norse definitely is shit.
Well, since Old Norse is a total foreign language for every actor here, I guess it's just this actor, Kal Naga, who has the best lagnuage skills.
+Amina R. It so happens that I can speak Arabic to a degree. But eventhough Icelandic shares many sounds with Arabic, the two languages are still vastly different. Languages tend to be easier to learn when they're closer to you. Hebrew for Arabs, Icelandic for Danish people, etc.
Furthermore, exposure to a host of different accents doesn't make you better at speaking languages. Native English speakers are constantly faced with foreign accents, yet they tend to perform worse than other speakers as far as using foreign languages is concerned. What matters is exposure to foreign languages. People from countries like Belgium, Luxemburg, Switzerland and China are more likely to be plurilingual and to speak those languages well than people from countries like Saudi Arabia, Great-Britain or Germany. Typically, Arabs are known for how bad they are at speaking foreign languages, often showcasing poor synthax and poor word choices. In this case, Khaled Abo Al-Naga doesn't come from a context where he had to learn how to speak multiple languages very well, as Arabic is all he actually needed as an Egyptian person.
In other words, Al-Naga's proficiency has nothing to do with his origins and all to do with his dedication, skill and talent.
Isakaldaz Wulfazizsunus Arabs are known to be bad at speaking another language? Talk about pulling nonsense out of your ass. Everyone is typically bad at speaking another language, especially if it's a language that doesn't belong to the same language family as the person's mother tongue.
However, the people in Saudi Arabia who speak English do so quite well. Some sound exactly like Americans. There are plenty of US comedians who are flabbergasted by this fact when they travel to Saudi Arabia. The people in Japan do so poorly. This difference is the result of shyness and exposure. Both Saudi and Japanese are perhaps equally exposed to English but the first group is more brazen at trying to converse than the latter.
I don't know what world you live in where you consider people in Belgium and China to be masters of language considering they typically only speak well the languages that are close to their mother tongue.
I don't know, I've never been to Arab countries, I only know some Arabs at my university, but all of them have exquisite language skills :D
I really loved Bjorn's idea to turn Kattegat into a trading hub.
For slaves?
Welcome to colonialism
@@vamsavardhanavijay5532 all societies practiced slavery, even North American Native peoples. Do some reading, champ. Yours is an incredibly stupid comment.
That actor is a famous Egyptian actor
Really...he is good..Shame they could have used him on Gods of Egypt.....lol probably to brown for them.
He looks like if Rami Malek got older. Lol
And he spoke Icelandic
He is great in this role.
@@khalifaalyafae8582
يعني محمد علي الذي وقف في وجه نظام الطاغية السيسي شوه الإسلام ؟
Anytime someone makes you question a basic fact by saying ‘you don’t understand how it works here’ they really are saying ‘I have a racket so don’t mess with me’
Well it's a pretty accurate description of Arab-Byzantine dynamics, but as a Tunisian I have two problems with the description. First Tunisia anciently known as Ifriqiya or Africa isnot at all a Desert, its nickname in Arabic is "Al Khadhra", meaning: the Green. And it has always been a fertile Land, since the time of Carthage, this is why Ziyadat Allah kingdom thrived so much at that time, the desert is in the extreme south of the country and Kairouan/Al Qayrawan, the capital city at that time was not in the desert despite bein the only Tunisian capital inland, it had at that time between 100 and 200.000 inhabitants, which is huge, the city was well provided with water and is situated in the actual Tunisian steppa, which became a steppa due to desertification and the troubles of 1055 invasion and civil war, this is also why the capital city moved again to Tunis near Carthage.
The other point is why the hell did they make Emir Ziyadat Allah a cannibla ???? This is ridiculous ! The only mad and tyrannical ruler of this dynasty was Ibrahim II who ruled Ifriqiya from 875 to 902 and he was pretty good during his first ten years. This is the only one who might have been portrayed as a cannibal (there was rumors but he was more of an Ivan the Terrible).
Yeah I didn’t really like how they made the Muslims cannibals. But then again, this show made fun of every religion and culture and had a lot of inaccuracies
He wasn't a cannibal I think, in this show he made the vikings eat human meat by accident so he could have a justification to capture them. For what reason, I don't know. Maybe turn them into another type of mamlukes. Imagine that, Viking mamlukes.
Ott0mans_@bbassids_um@yyads were all ra pists and they were crusaders abuducted rap€edcircassian girls had whit sx slaves forced them they were 😈.
Ottomans are joke but yah ertuğrul and usman wasn't after them all were lustyfilty creaters abuser and sxaddicts
Ottomans are joke but yah ertuğrul and usman wasn't after them all were lustyfilty creaters abuser and sxaddicts . Ottomans are not the rulers of europe they aren't european instead they enslavrd europeans.
So many Nobel price winning historians in the comment section...
@Nyne And that's where your wrong Nyne, there is no such thing as "Objective History". That's a paradigm of the Victim culture.
In history at one time or another evryone is the martyr and monster at different points in their lives.
History is collection of amalgamation of many different points of view often interpreting the same event.
It is through this tapestry of eyes and minds that we come to our collective history as we know it and perceive it.
To say "Real History" is often wrong, is a fool's notion....People have bias and opinions and they show up in their writings, throughout all of time.
This is how Archeologists, Geologist, Anthropologist, etc....Look at the collective facts, sources, records etc and make the best determination possible as to what is "True" and False".
DNA and Geneology are really making great leaps foward in determining historical fact and fiction. Just thought I'd include this in hear because this is the new frontier in history..Genetic Archeology.
just gonna point out unless those historian write a book and get the prize for literature ......there are only nobel prizes for medicine,physics,chemistry,peace and literature.
But that's the problem with the show though... A mythology presented as history! It's like mixing the phrases of great philosophers and saying that someone else invented them. It's simply wrong!
@@Tsiribreezes nobody else but you mistakes a show to real history man,so it seems to be only your problem...lol...
@@pete_boy71 yikes, it seems that somebody didn't get a hug this morning...
The moment the commander Euphemius knew he was fucked, is pure gold, as he knew he had lied to the Norsemen and now his lies were exposed by the Emir himself.
can u sum it up for me? idk how i got here since i don’t watch the show (i tried but there was so much rape and killing and i didnt understand how i could root for them for doing it) but im curious
their portrayal of muslim-byzantine politics is actually accurate.
Except Byzantine were called Roman until the 19th century
Have lived in their era to confirm this accuracy?! Such an absurdity....
@@jeenadjo1238 its in the literature and religious texts; there is no byzantine.
Anti-Federalist 1776 the last bizantine royalty fled to wallachia they where called the Cantacuzino family.
Anti-Federalist 1776 Yes the Cantacuzinos fled constantinople to wallachia.. I dont know what royalty fled to crimea.
Why are people so butthurt? Many Vikings raided the Mediterranean Shores, some settled, a few even converted and started serving as household guards to local Emirs
Arshan none converted I think, no records show as such,even when they served with the Byzantine emperor conversion was very little
Individual conversions are hard to see in the historical record, especially given the fact that the vikings did not leave written records behind during this era. Historical records are not the be all, end all, to seeing the past because sometimes they have biases and may exclude certain information for certain reasons contemporary to their time. Also they don't always record everyday occurrences in society since those are taken for granted. This is broadly speaking but historical records are usually done by the educated and elite, they won't portray an accurate picture of people outside those distinctions. So I don't think it's safe to say that none converted but it's more reasonable to assume that majority probably did not.
Some did ...like Christianity in Scandinavia..when in contact with others..their culture can rub off.
Exactly, I don't get it either. Ziyadat Allah was a real, historical figure, the man who conquered Sicily. Bjorn is also a (semi) historical figure, who was known to travel to the Medditereanian Sea. Hell, the sources even mention that he went to both Sicily and North Africa, so it's quite possible that those two met, but it's only a speculation.
Norsemen as a whole had extensive trade relations with Muslim world. Arabic coins were found all over the Scandinavia. Arabs mostly bought furs and slaves from them. Norsemen were known as best mercenaries at the time, and they were everywhere. Frankish, English and other Christian rulers hired them often. Some of them were part of elite Varangian Guard to the Roman Emperors in Constantinople.
We also know for a fact that some of them worked as mercenaries all around Muslim world. Hell, Arabs had even whole slave armies made up from Slavic slaves, so it's not that impossible to imagine that Norsemen who sold those slaves were also working for various Arab rulers as well.
We know that around this time some bands of Norsemen ended up in Al-Andalus, converted to Islam (that's why they found runestones with the name "Allah" on it) and raided most of western Medditeranian.
Sure, the show is FAR from being accurate - I myself was a bit butthurt when out of the blue, Floki said that he finds Islam more compatible to him than Christianity, for example. I also don't like the extensive usage of shieldmaidens in the show. And don't get me started on clothing and armour in particular - it's all wrong.
I've finished watching the series once the whole Medditeranian arc was finished - as a Byzantophile it was fun to see Roman controlled Sicilly (even if what I saw wasn't accurate at all), but I wasn't really interested in the history of Ragnar's sons. Don't get me wrong, real history of the sons of Ragnar is REALLY interesting, but as the show progressed, it became more and more fantasy like (Chinese princess, daughter of Emperor himself, ends up in Scandinavia - come on :D).
First season was great. Had that authentic feel to it, even though it wasn't always accurate. I loved the usage of various language in the show, too. One of my favourite episodes was the one from season 1, episode 8 (I think), when the Ragnar, his family and Athelstan went to Uppsala. Really great episode. Even siege of Paris arc wasn't as interesting as seeing some aspects of Norse culture, IMHO.
+MR BlackandWhite
There were Vikings who converted to Islam. You can find certain North Africans currently with Nordic features even now, and they were likely descended from them.
Fun fact: Everything after 2:48 seems to be not included on the episode I’m currently watching. Deleted scene/uncut version maybe
the woman is gorgeous!
From a dude, that women looks awfully allot like a dude.
You are Gorgeus
I agree. I liked her intense stare ^.^
If you like ugly
@@carlosnevarez4003 Get a dog, its can stare at you
In all honesty, I like how he starts the conversation. He surprises them by knowing and speaking their language and begins a deep discussion about their and his own theology in order to quickly break the ice. I like the Vikings' surprised and confused face expressions during the first few seconds.
Also if you pay attention to how he greets Eiphimeus, it can be deduced that there is some kind of pressure between them. And from how he greets Zemphira (correct me regarding her name please) - they are attracted to each other.
"Where is Euphemius?" "You have just eaten it."
Imagine my face after vibing a whole summer about a portuguese actor joining the Vikings cast and he ends up at the dinner table: 😳
Arabs are not cannibals
3:08 now that looks like a happy warm kind hearted smile for sure
It's the smile " I may want to eat you ".
@@labroskouris9071 100% lmao
I'm swedish and i can understand much of what they say and it's just so hilarious XD
Even in English (though admittedly I have learned a few Old Norse words) you can kinda understand it without looking at the subtitles!
I'm Norwegians and could recognize almost all of it as well😆 Its fun to see how the language has changed😄
Havet er moderen min, Odin er min fader.
Same in German.
yeah most swedes can talk at least some arabic nowadays
the actor stole the show from everyone
Σhe is impossibly beautiful..
having had friends from that region,i can say they did not underscore the hospitality of the Arab people. They're incredibly hospitable, and if you say you would like to have this or that,even if you mean you intend to achieve it on your own, don't be surprised if you find it on your doorstep courtesy of your Arabian friends. It is a grave insult to try and return it out of modesty,too...they will tell you that God had willed that it be yours,and to return it to them is like spiting in the face of God.
Just say that God willed it for you to return it ,problem solved.
@@cristristam9054 hahahaha they will probably answer by swearing that you will take it, in which case you won’t have a choice because if you still refuse it would be insulting, since muslims believe that if someone swears on something and they don’t do it/ doesn’t happen they will be punished by god for carelessly swearing by his name or they will have to fast for 3 days to make up for it.
@@howlsfilthycastle You can just swear you wont take it or even better ,say that you swore a month ago you will not accept any gifts for a year.
@@cristristam9054
Why are you trying so hard to be a fucking asshole, just take it.
This is a scenario you'll never win with us.
You. Will. Take. It.
@@abdelnasserwardani3346 I am half arab ,my father is from Bagdad i lived in Bagdad for a few years and I interacted with arabs in many countries all the stuff I said above works. Most non arabs just don't take it there and don;t say god wills i won;t take it.
I’m swedish and I understood all of the old norse/icelandic that was spoken. That’s so awesome
@Khrsllnes No but it has it’s similarities to the modern nordic germanic languages
@Khrsllnes And in Iceland old norse was the most preserved because it’s a very isolated place without any outer influences
Nobody asking why you telling ?
@@reefmohammed3553 I could say the same for you 😂 Did I ask about your opinion?
Old Norse is so close to modern Swedish I could understand almost everything
Watch a documentary if you want historically accurate. I’m sick of these armchair historians getting offended on every Vikings video.
There's always the retards that are too dumb to enjoy and understand history complaining because people know more than them hahahaha :')
Nnobody was offended are you stupid?
Give the link of documentary
Its hilarious because these are the same lot going around declaring anyone who opposes their pov as "snowflakes" and yet get triggered so easily by a freakin tv show which is based on a historical setting but in no way is a depiction of what exactly happened!
As for mutual respect existing between Muslim people and the norse, this is recorded by Muslim sources as well.
"They (norse) carry clean clothes and the men adorn themselves with bracelets and gold. They treat their slaves well and also they carry exquisite clothes, because they put great effort in trade. They have many towns. They have a most friendly attitude towards foreigners and strangers who seek refuge."
From Ahmad Ibn Rustah's "Book of Previous Records".
They were all slobbing around, complaining about Bohemian Rhapsody, too.
I don't give a dam if I have to read subtitles, Is so beautiful to hear them speak in the languages they spoke!
Sounds a lot like Swedish today so as a Swedish speaking finn I actually understand a lot without subtitles
@@Axel640 I thought they spoke some Medieval Scandinavian dialect
Got to be honest, its interesting to see other lands and cultures, it gets boring when focused on just the one settlement. And why are people complaining historical inaccuracy? The show has already been playing fast and loose with its historical portrayals, not to mention the supernatural images with odin, haarbard and even god. Things and places like this make the show interesting.
The difference however between all the different criticisms,(and the one that has actual merit in my eyes) is whether or not these plot threads go any where. Yidu, a chinese character in season 3, was slammed for apparent cultural diversification, her apparence didnt trigger me, she couldve been an interesting character. What makes me indifferent of her is how her storyline went *FUCKING....NOWHERE* . I feel the same way here. Unless they return to this place or we see these characters again, the show wasted 45-60 minutes of cumilative screen time with these scenes in the mediterranean.
They screw over and piss on our history, no viking would tolerate these PC lies.
Because as you said yourself
"Its nice to see other cultures and lands"
Now cultures and lands in this show are so grossly missrepresented people watching will think "oh yes this is how x people lived"
this plotline helped create the bond between bjorn and halfdan, to justify halfdan fighting against his brother later on the show, which gave a dramatic element to the battle with brother fighting brother. halfdan also evolved as a character with his voyage to the mediterranean
Supernatural is very real fool!! And vikings did see demons passing as theire "gods" do you think they would ask from help from a "seer" that is just making up stories about talking with gods??? People were not dumb or crazy in ancient epochs
-Sea is my mother.
+Your father?
-Odin.
BEST CONVERSATION IN THE SERIE.
I'm Italian and i can understand them
....Reading the english words.
I can understand aliens perfectly.... when translated into english
@@TheKadanz 😂😂😂
Hmm...so it's confirmed that it's Halfdan the Black, who was supposed to be Harald's father instead of brother, but he probably play the role of Hastein, celeb to be a common friend and Allie of Bjorn Ironside.
They should have made a scene of newly convert Vikings making cheese, because thats how they ended up.
What?
@@Jow2002 some vikings converted to islam and started making cheese in andalusia
@@Jow2002 There's a viking age Andalusian Muslim source that mentions a failed raid on Seville. Those that weren't killed or escaped, ended up settling and becoming cheesemakers. :-)
@Peter D And they lost
Bjorn: How you can you speak our language
Said in a language that wouldn't exist for a couple of hundred years.
The look on Bjorn face pricess
kairouan one of the biggest cities of the mediterranean at that time is presented by 3 tenths in this HISTORICAL series
*When you are told a portuguese actor is joining Vikings but he ends up in the dinner table:* "lies, I've been fed lies"
Congrats, you just made me laugh 🤣🤣
Ah, det gamle språket!
Too bad this ploy line didnt go anywhere.At least better than the Floki plot.
Nice background research was done with this scene.
Ah yeah, by this point his arc was just seducing women and trying his best to act like Ragnar.
In my Journey in the lands of internet, one day I stumbled upon a page, Norwegians having a deity with 99 names and each of them had attributes similar to what Allah has. 15yrs ago, and now I am searching for that page again. Islam did spread everywhere once, what caused it to be forgotten, I am curious to know and find out what teaching we have in common currently, which might have survived in those nations.
lmaooo
She's stunning oml 😍
Mediterranean beauty.
I'm a Norwegian and I can hear a couple of recognizable words in my language in the language they're speaking
I am from Iceland and I can understand them
sólveig Diðriksdóttir learning more about my ancestors, including writing in Futhark, etc. Your last name. You are "Dietrich's daughter".
Really? I thought they were speaking a fake langage haha do you other scandinavian langages as well?
Manel O. Im swedish and i can understand most of the old norse language
Alex Warnke it’s cool how they do that. My ancestors were Vikings and Irish. My last name means son of the shield maker.
Its my aim to live in Iceland. You are such a lucky human.
I’m a Dane and can pretty much understand everything x D
Då måste jag känna mig i lugn och ro för att vara en muslim i Sverige, visar att jag har varit en del av Skandinavien för länge länge sen. Roligt är också att jag förstår nästan allting dem säger trotts att jag inte varken svensk eller skandinavisk.
Khaled abo naga this nam of actor from egypt he good actor
I love u from morocco
Haha that commander trolling halfdan later. Lmao
Been awhile since I watched this but they are in Southern Spain here, yes?
Greetings? Wtf? It means peace be upon you ...
The relations between Arabs and muslims and people of Midlle East and other parts of North Africa and Vikings were more than excellent and Vikings were very open minded too.
13th Warrior!
like father like son, they dont like that foreigns talk his language
How the fuck do you figure?
The Norse word for „far“ (wit) sounds exactly the same as the present day Swiss German „wit“.
Weit = wit
I never really understood this scene...
The Mad Baron Primitive Muslim areas do cut clitorises. In Turkey, back in the 70's, underdeveloped and illiterate Kurds in the east done this practice.
its more of a culturan than religious thing
Not really for those who actually read history.
I think it was meant to show the extention of Nordic reach coupled with the complexity of the political situation then as opposed to pedestrian belive. Also it shows a gruesome scene after that where they want to show that the seemingly cultured appearance of the Mediterranean powers, compared to the Viking life style, has a more savage and practical underbelly in reality. Well I might be wrong but that's how I sees it
@Arya Deva No, it isn't. Not everything has to be about race / language.
Bjorn Jarnside ...the best name ever
Why is everything else translated, except Allah (God, in English). Are translations done in pieces, now?
jorge6207 Every god has a name.. they simply need a name for muslims god “i think”
Ok, but that's it. Muslim's god is the same as the Jews and Christians.
jorge6207 expect christians add tow gods 🤷🏼♀️
Sav ...IDIOT!!!!!!!
In Islam, the God doesn't have a proper name like humans. He has epithets and nicknames instead.
1:49 did he foreshadow season 6 rus Vikings?
I know norwegian and understan what they are saying without the subtitles
Also Danes and Swedes
Everything about this guy perfectly personifies Arabic temperament.
I thought the Byzantines were most of the time at war with their neighbours or at least preparing for war? I mean, I know how their diplomacy worked and the portrayal in the show symbolizes the situation on a personal dimpolatic level but it's not how the diplomacy actually was.
The emperor routinely sparked rebellions, gathered intel on foreign ambitions and politics; distracted or destroyed his enemies by supporting their rivals and to conclude Byzantine diplomacy was therefore mainly a means for war without soldiers dying on battlefields and the neighbours always were opportunistic, sending presents and men one year only to invade in the next should the time seem right.
There were few allies of Constantinople for centuries - and most of its neighbours and especially with Asia Minor the sword was a more commen embassador.
en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arab-Byzantine_wars
The Byzantine diplomacy was well known after the fall of Constantinople in order to maintain the Empire as long as the Turks were not well educated the Byzantines hijacked their minds actually.
PS Wikipedia is good but for Byzantine matters and Orthodox Christianity is 100% propaganda written by the westerns!
2:47 It's just me, or is that unintentional asmr?
They did Halfdan dirty after this
Why did this plot disappear??
I don't know but it would have been incredible to see it, too bad it lasted very little, I would have loved to see all of bjorn's trips through the Mediterranean
Why can't I watch a full Episode?
Bjorn was like: wtf is going on?! 😂
Arab hospitality is indeed the best in the world
In someway of course people from the north ended up in the south but wait:At that time,italy was controlled by Goths,then there kingdom failed,but even now in northen italy the people are more germanic then italian(even though its a mix) same for every other land that has access to the mediteranian(i probably spelled it wrong,whatever).But that people are talking here about raids in southern Europe,is a joke lol.Again on some levels everything is possible,but the vikings never possesed lands on south europe.The way they had to take was even for them a risk,then don't forget history can never be 100% accurate.
I don’t understand this part... why did he say “ don’t u see ,kassia, when e says to kill Bjorne and then
I think he can played Mr Addams..in Adam family
The Vikings called the Arabs "The Warriors' People",
It sounds like they recognized there was that one people as (or more) good as them in combat.
I am a Muslim and not offended. They have been fighting Islam on TV for decades...WE, however, fighting it on the ground, in REAL LIFE...tell me: what do you see around you when you walk in the streets? Any streets in any country? :) ENJOY life as a movie or a show. All lies eventually fades and only the truth remains. If you could beat God you would've done it already...but keep fighting, it's better this way in so many ways.
What do I see on streets? People going to work, kids going to school, and some tourists. 😉
Btw I doubt this TV show would fight Islam in any way. If it fights someone it's the Christians because they are the enemies of the protagonists, the Vikings. And they are portrayed as very bad. Like this Christian nun in this particular scene, she is the mistress of the Emir.😄
My condolences to you for owning nothing.
Sinric has to be in next season.
I'm Swedish and I understand them really well
was the translation right?
Abram Marcus its a bit different
At 0:57 he said ”Odin ar fader min” but in swedish you say ”Odin är min far”
how would it be in Danish or Norwegian i think the three languages were kinda mixed in that period of time cause they were mostly one country right?
What this women name?
Historical information you should know before watching:
Who is Ziyadat Allah ?
Ziyadat Allah was Aghlabid Prince (Aghlabid: Arab dynasty of north Africa Funded by the Abbasids) ruler of Ifriqiya (Current Tunisia and Sicily).
Aghlabids was not Cannibals of course!
Location and Climate of Al-Qayrawān: (Kairouan was not a desert !)
Located in the center of Tunisia in a plain at almost equal distance from the sea and the mountain, Kairouan is the most ancient Arabo-Muslim base of the Maghreb founded in (670AD) when the Arab general Uqba ibn Nafi selected a site (in the middle of a dense forest, then infested with wild beasts and reptiles at the foot of the atlas mountain range).
Kairouan considered as the principal holy city in the Maghreb.
Kal Naga performance 💜💜💜
There are people who think this show is better than GOT. Lets that sink in.
0:47
Now do you have any doubts that Vikings created Russia? They look like typical Russian villagers.
well, slavs and vikings did clash, but since slavs dont make for good slaves for some reason (look at balkan) they probably allied or something. but to say Russia is a viking concept is wrong simply because of religion. Slavic pagans had Belobog and Charnobog, not Odin or Thor. But I see where u are saying.
Russians are the product of a mixture with Vikings.
They're actors you dumbass.
@@TheRaf87 Slavs have Veles and Perun, chernobog and bielobog are not confirmed and granted for sure by historians
I''m Icelandic, understand everyword
I never quite understood what was happening here, I know they kill old boy and eat him but I dont get the undertone about the emperor being his enemy and why did old boy get eaten.
Euphemius is a former governor of Sicily and has rebelled against the Emperor in constantinople, he's trying to get support from the Arabs to take Sicily back from the Romans and establish his own kingdom.
In real life they just used him to take Sicily for themselves.
I'll bet the Swedish Chef could translate this..
انا جاي اشوف الفايكينجز ايه اللى جاب حرب اطاليا هنا ! :'(
Abram Marcus hhhhhhhh
The arab also had long hair back then, and thick curly beards!
kairouan one of the biggest cities of the mediterranean at that time is presented by 3 tenths in this HISTORICAL series
The vikings look like cossacks.
Which film is this?
why is that man canibal ? Is this accurate in history ?
Of course not, there's not any single historical source that mentioned the cannibalism in the life of the prince Zyiadat.
The serie is a western serie, westerners enjoy demonizing Arabs in their series it very known.
Byzantines, Arabs and Vikings all in the same room... Sounds like a joke but unfortunately it's not. It's just another part of this ''historical'' show!
It's not overly far fetched
Well they didn't get along all the time, but the Norse made deals with both people quite often. Like fighting as mercs for the Byzantines and selling slaves from the north to the muslims.
@Wake No. I agree, Vikings and Byzantines were definitely in the same room on multiple occasions
Muslim to Viking, "Oh no! We have NO REASON to be at war with the emperor." Viking reaction, "he just lied loooool". Thusly goes Bjorn's first expose on taquiya/kitman.
🤣Funny hearing the Kyvian Rus Empire, what was Putin saying about Moscow, Moscow was a swamp when Kiev was the Capital of the Rus.
And you're glad the west succeeded on dividing you people?! 🤦🫵
Muslim never greets non-Muslims with salaam.
Marhaba is the common greeting.
Александр you’re clearly out of touch with our current state of affairs you mong
not in my country we say salam to everyone
I would say salaam to everyone if i could. One thing that i'm not doing so is afraid offending them with different beliefs by greeting them on Islam way
i'm moeslim, of course
@پیاده نظام خان not at all outdated
Who is the emperor ?
هل من الممكن واحد يفهمنا ماذا يقولون
Alakabum shakalam shaba landu.
Didn't know a Muslim would trade in slaves or that ziyadat allah spoke old Norse
Where my Scandinavian squad at?? 🇩🇰🇳🇴🇸🇪
@@enigma19833 stfu
Which series is that?
"vikings"
@@batool2000rox thanks
Nonsense
Muslim kings didn't demand bowing
Spurious if u say Saudi is worse then my brother u are not knowing what u are talking about give me one person that bowed to anyone in Saudi and if the guy he bowed to liked it or not they don’t bow in Saudi because of tradition and islam
Spurious
I am from Saudi Arabia and I descend from a very good family in the north , we are called " Tamimi " , I am 23 years old friend and I would ask you kindly not to throw wrong accusations like our kings demand bowing and ring kissing. There is respect tho .. In every age of a muslim leader or president bowing was not required, actually our prophet Mohammed taught us to be humble and not to distinguish one over the other except in How much of a good deeds you have .
I just wanted to make thar clear to you because man I am so tired of people judging and saying things that are not true . I apologize for taking so much of your time . May God continue to ease all of your affairs my dear .
@jürgen samoilov
That is not true. From where you've got this knowledge? Provide me with your evidence so I can clarify any misunderstanding.
They Do. Historically they do
Yes they did. As a part of Bi'at, everyone had to perform Taqiyya
They ara Byzantine or Arap i dont understand
I always liked through time until fairly recently Muslims were more accepting of other religions.
It's kinda stupid how they portray this Emir a residing in the middle of a desert while in reality he'd be living in such a Palace that was not seen anywhere else in Europe (apart from Muslim Spain) for the next 800 years.
@@matikhorasani3842 The Colosseum and the Pantheon were built before the coming of Christ, and they are way more superior than any arabic construction.
@@xxJ0hnMartinxx The buildings of Mesopotamia and Egypt were constructed thousands of years before Rome was even created and were far more advanced than than anything built during Rome's imperial height. So by bringing up ancient history, you still lose.
@@matikhorasani3842
The Mesopotamians? Oh yeah, like the Sumerians who were not Semitic, so have nothing to do with Islam or Arabs. What's left is the Babylonians, Assyrians, Akkadians, and they didn't construct anything that was more advanced than the Colosseum, aqueducts, etc. The only thing to surpass it would be the Pyramids of Giza, and they also weren't made by Arabs or Muslims. They were made by Egyptians were not Arabs.
@@ArthaxtaDaVince777 the Romans came two thousand years after those civilizations and yet they were not even half as advanced as the Mesopotamian civilizations were in their prime. Unless you have studied Mesopotamian history in university please don't talk.
@@matikhorasani3842
Lmao, that is an false, the Romans were vastly ahead of the Mesopotamians. Your lack of knowledge on history is showing, as is your blind nationalism. The Romans produced armor like this www.larp.com/legioxx/lorback.jpg, and were vastly ahead of the Mesopotamian in technology and warfare.
If they met the real native north africans that would be awesome
By native north africans you mean kabyle or berbers people?
Or even Turkic people who had very similar cultures decending from the North
@@Ryan-si4cw Kabyle are Berbers. There is no distinction between the two. That's like saying Texan or American people?
@@nabil9772 I know , im one myself
the actor of the emir is egyptian in think