Logic Pro X - Advanced Drum Sampling (SAMPLER)
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- Опубліковано 28 тра 2024
- In this long-format video I demonstrate my process for advanced drum sampling in Logic Pro X Sampler (version 10.5). For this video I'm specifically building a hyper-realistic acoustic drum kit.
Get Drum Samples Here // we.tl/t-NudiY6NAoI
Time Stamps for the Video
0:00 Introduction
1:19 Playthrough Audio Example
2:14 Two Microphone Vintage Sound
2:56 Demo and Playthrough of Drum Samples
6:34 Sampler Overview, No Zone Overlap
8:04 Load in Clap Samples and Create Groups
9:13 Assign Clap Zones to Groups
10:09 Assign Clap Zones to Key Ranges
11:15 Turn on One-Shot Option, Turn Off Pitch Option for Drums
12:13 Create Round Robin Cycles for Claps
14:25 Load in and Program Kick Samples
15:03 Velocity Layers with the Kick
16:47 Assign Kick Zones to Key Ranges
17:44 Create Round Robin Cycles for Kicks
18:17 Load in and Program Snares (Velocity Layers, Groups, Key Ranges, Round Robin)
21:58 Load in and Program Tom 1 (Velocity Layers, Groups, Key Ranges, Round Robin)
24:50 Create Tom 2 Groups from Tom 1 Groups
26:05 Pitch Shift Tom 1 Zones to Create an Extra High Tom
27:05 Tom 3 and Tom 4 (Loaded in Offscreen)
27:39 Crash Cymbals and Ride (Loaded in Offscreen)
28:27 Load in Hi Hat Samples
29:39 Explain and Assign Hi Hats to Key Ranges
30:39 Create Exclusive Monophonic Hi Hat Group (Choke Group)
32:30 Save Instrument and Load as Multi-Output
33:30 Assign Group Outputs
34:24 Create Multi-Output Auxes in Logic’s Mixer
35:41 Pan the Cymbals in Sampler
37:01 Velocity Sensitivity
38:10 Final Playthrough and Closing Statements
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Get Drum Samples Here // we.tl/t-NudiY6NAoI
Time Stamps for the Video
0:00 Introduction
1:19 Playthrough Audio Example
2:14 Two Microphone Vintage Sound
2:56 Demo and Playthrough of Drum Samples
6:34 Sampler Overview, No Zone Overlap
8:04 Load in Clap Samples and Create Groups
9:13 Assign Clap Zones to Groups
10:09 Assign Clap Zones to Key Ranges
11:15 Turn on One-Shot Option, Turn Off Pitch Option for Drums
12:13 Create Round Robin Cycles for Claps
14:25 Load in and Program Kick Samples
15:03 Velocity Layers with the Kick
16:47 Assign Kick Zones to Key Ranges
17:44 Create Round Robin Cycles for Kicks
18:17 Load in and Program Snares (Velocity Layers, Groups, Key Ranges, Round Robin)
21:58 Load in and Program Tom 1 (Velocity Layers, Groups, Key Ranges, Round Robin)
24:50 Create Tom 2 Groups from Tom 1 Groups
26:05 Pitch Shift Tom 1 Zones to Create an Extra High Tom
27:05 Tom 3 and Tom 4 (Loaded in Offscreen)
27:39 Crash Cymbals and Ride (Loaded in Offscreen)
28:27 Load in Hi Hat Samples
29:39 Explain and Assign Hi Hats to Key Ranges
30:39 Create Exclusive Monophonic Hi Hat Group (Choke Group)
32:30 Save Instrument and Load as Multi-Output
33:30 Assign Group Outputs
34:24 Create Multi-Output Auxes in Logic’s Mixer
35:41 Pan the Cymbals in Sampler
37:01 Velocity Sensitivity
38:10 Final Playthrough and Closing Statements
Can you put up a download link to your .exs file?
Tip: If you name one group, say, "Claps 1" and then press [Command D] to duplicate in Group view, it automatically increases the number.
This is easily the best tutorial on this subject I've come across. And I've been digging extensively for this kind of thing. Well done.
well done indeed! agree 100% ...
Just got my first Mac/logic. Getting ready to track my own drums in my liv8ng room using an ekit and YOU ARE MY LOGIC TUTOR IM LEARNING SO MUCH I LOVE YOU
This guy is the best on the internet by far. If you use Logic this man needs to be carefully studied - his knowledge is immense.
Thank You! I am dying to find a tutorial, any tutorial, on the most practical and efficient ways to do vocal chop sampling using Sampler. This includes how to get the glide settings right and some useful modulation techniques. Also, just the most practice ways to map out the samples. I typically will throw a whole verse into the mapping editor and find parts that work, and throw the same verse into the editor again and pick a different area, and continue doing that until I've got like 6 areas of the same sample to play around with. It's slow and tedious, though, and I can achieve this a lot more easily using Serato Sample. Only problem is Serato doesn't have a glide function, in addition to the ability to mess with the samples, etc. Anyway, if you have some free time I would kill to see you work through that process!
Excellent Josh.
Even though a total newbie to sampling - thus never got my feet wet in the nether regions of EXS24 - this seems to be invaluable. A host of great info - ! I'll certainly be referring back to this over and over as I come to grips with the world of sampling.
So exciting! Thank you!
This is one of the best music production tutorials I've ever watched. Unreal. So so helpful. It's like you were reading my mind when I would be following along and then notice a nuance that hadn't been mentioned yet. Looked everywhere for this info. This was the best. Thanks!
this completely exceeded my expectations . thanks for giving what ive been looking for a while
THANK YOU! Solving the issue with my e drums hi hat has been a struggle. Thanks for helping me sort this issue out
Insanely helpful. Changed the game for me.
Great, clear tutorial!
Again! I can't thank you enough! I can't believe I've just watched this for free, million thanks!
Thanks. Great tutorial. Nice samples too ! And the Purdue Shuffle is always music to my ears.
That’s one of the best tutorials I’ve watched in a long time. Many thanks.
Thank you for taking the time to put together this very helpful video. It was exactly what I was wanting to learn and you explain it very well..
Such a great Tutorial. Thank you so much!
Thank you so much! Amazing tutorial, everything explained very clearly. Keep it up!
Nicely done. In the past I’ve struggled with two other multi samplers (Reasons NNXT and Akai’s S6000 hardware sampler). The directions in this video are excellent and REALLY make a tedious task effortless. Thanks...
What a coincidence I’ve recently been working on deep sampling my kit like really in depth.
Wow, I’ve been looking for something like this! I’m not a drummer but I do a lot of prepro for artists and this has just helped level up my process!
Subbed and thumbing through your vids to see what else i can learn! Cheers!
Thanx a million. Just super great enlightening and informativ. Love your channel!
This is such a a great, spot-on, explanation. I’m off to do my first kit, see you next week!.
Some other UA-camrs have this thing where the timestamps show up on the video's progress bar as you mouse over it. I don't know how they do it, but it looks nifty!
I'm happy to see another video from my favourite Logic teacher, and a long one at that! Looks like I'll have to slowly digest this one...
Multiple thanks from Germany, Josh! Great help!
Excellent Thanks for taking the time.
Sooooo helpful! Love this!
this has really helped me. Thank you
So grateful for the this!!
Thank you!
Excellent endeavour.👍😊
Gran gran video! Gracias!
Thanks uncle, pro tips in prod as always!!
Excellent thanks Josh
Thank you for this man!
Really helpful. Thanks!
Great video - I’m going to try sampling my kit soon... One note: as a drummer, I noticed the pitch shifted Tom immediately!
THIS VIDEO CHANGED MY LIFE
Amazing man thank you so much!
Absolutely WOW!
Man... thank you soooo much !
Thank you and thank you for the time stamps! I bought a sample library that came with and EXS24 that did no have choke groups! First of all, what the hell... Secondly, you just saved me the time it would have taken me to figure that out. I figured I'd use some of the time you just gave me to thank you. Call it a time kick back. Only right.
I know this video is a few years old now, so this may have been addressed already, but if you create your groups first, and then go group by group dragging the samples for that group in all at once from the finder, hovering over the key in the mapper, it'll automatically disperse those samples by velocity on that key. Makes the process slightly less tedious for me, especially if you're working with a bunch of velocity divisions, if that makes sense at all.
21:34 to me sounds like the intro to Pretty Woman for a second,
I like the snare tone, and another amazing tutorial thank you!
got a clear view on sampler!!!!
Very helpful. I’ve been doing the same with my kit. It’s interesting to me that in setting up your kit you’ve focused more on round robins than on velocity layers. I know you can do both, but I always spend more of my energy on velocity and only use round robin on the snare. Anyway, thanks.
Thanks for making this video, I was thinking about making my own drum. I just hoped apple made it easier with the new version. This still takes a lot of time just to put in some samples and map them.
appreciate u man thanks
Great tutorial as always! Can you answer this question please.
How do I pitch & filter (etc) individual slices? Thanks
Your voice put into Sampler and tweaked is how we get Casually Explained videos
THANK YOUUUUU
Great tutorial and walkthrough! Thanks! .... I used this video to try out my own samples that I'd like to play and from my electric kit but I was running into a problem with the high hat. The midi map for the v-drum's high hat corresponds to the open high hat note regardless of whether it's closed or open. Is there a way to tell sampler when the hi hat controller is pressed, so it changes the midi note to the closed high hat? Because regardless of the hi hat being closed or open, the midi note/map doesn't change so it doesn't work smoothly with an electric kit. .... Drum Set Designer has a way to get around this by changing a setting from GM to V-Drum in a bottom dropdown menu, but I was hoping there was a similar or equivalent feature in Sampler. Do you happen to know? Thanks again for all the tutorials you've done over the years. I've learned a lot!
Awesome in depth vid!
Is it possible to get the instrument as well as the samples??
Thank You
Thanks for the tutorial! Is there a way to create a random cycle for round robin instead of playback them in a sequenced fashion?
Thank you. I'm a bit confused by how you know to put the snare flam on D#1 based on the GM drum map. The one I found has hand claps on D#1 and no flam on the list. Where do you find alternative GM drum maps or do you just copy other drum instruments in Logic if you have something outside of the usual list?
Super informative video. Love it! So a hyper realistic Hihat takes a lot of samples and groups. Or maybe you know a company/someone who has that? No one of the big brands, Toontrack, AD-Drums and so on! :) I have these :)
I don't know why but when you play shaft Hihats, no one really have great feeling, and not sounding dynamic. Anyway, Great Tut!!!
Do you know if you're able to assign multiple samples to one note on the piano roll? I'm having a hard time trying to figure out how to load in for instance with a snare drum, A snare top, snare bottom, snare room, and overheads.. But i'd also like to be able to mix those seperate mics in multi output mode. Any help would be appreciated! Thanks!
Hey Music Tech Help Guy, how do I import a bunch of drum samples/folders into the sampler? Do I go to plug-in settings and just copy and paste them in there? Because I managed to do that but when I go to select them say I bounce down a file and do track replacement to layer samples, I can’t select the samples, they’re greyed.
Mind you they are WAV. Files so what’s the right step?
Do you also happen to have a tutorial regarding how to use that same plug-in you are using for the drums? (More for newbies)
Just set up a Real drumset in Sampler. I’m running into a weird issue with round robin. All of my drums are doing round robin as they should, except two. When I set those groups to use round robin, I get no sound from them at all, but turning RR off, sound comes back. Other than the trigger key and multi-out channel, the settings on that group are setup the same as every other drum. Have I run into a capacity limitation?
I feel like i did something wrong because once i selected round robin, the samples stopped working. they don't even play back when you click on the keys on sampler. what happened?
Making one for a bass guitar now
Does - adding hats to the same group in drum machine designer have the same effect as exclusive one voice group shown here ? thanks
Yes you can make an exclusive group in DMD
Wow this process although still a bit tedious(keeping in mind the never press CTRL-Z during) would've been near-impossible for an EXS24 🤣
harika
Excellent reference video but what a pain-in-the-arse! I did this back in ESX24 Logic 9 for a custom Gretch kit and used it for a few years. Today, I’m looking for layered multi-sampled drum kits and it seems like nobody cares. It can be done in Logic, but it’s not elegant or easy, whereas Battery 4 seems to offer a better UI and editor and allows velocity range overlap. I suspect folks just buy EZ Drummer, Addictive or GGD where all the mapping is already done for you.
Def a pain in the ass to do this way. If you're looking for a quicker custom drum kit workflow, Battery is definitely the way to go! You can also do things like create flams and rolls in Battery, which you can't do with Sampler.
“Creating round robin samples in EXS24 was a bi…” thought we were getting a different word there, for this grown up video haha
Booyah! First comment!
Booyah! Second comment!
Josh, thank you for this video. I have one question: if you wanted to incorporate room mics into your samples but wanted the option to blend the different mics on the front end how would you go about doing this?
It's game over if you click CMD Z
I love this channel, but found this video to be a bit confusing. For instance, the first thing he breaks down is the limitations and work arounds for layering samples - before even touching on the fundamentals of velocity assignment, round robins etc. I’m finding it a bit hard to follow but perhaps I need to look elsewhere and come back when I need to understand how to stack multiple samples.
This is probably one of the more advanced tutorials I've done. If you're not already familiar with working with samplers and the fundamentals of MIDI, it might be a little confusing. I'm pretty I even say that somewhere in the video.
@@MusicTechHelpGuy thanks! Yes I found some other tutorials that caught me up and then this one was much more helpful.
I’ve followed directions carefully. I cannot hear my Hi Hats. Why would that be???
A couple things to double check:
1. Make sure that the output of the hi hats are correct, could be going to a multi-output channel that doesn't exist.
2. Make sure the key range is on the right octave/note.
3. I've often accidentally got my round robin cycles mixed up, so double check those and make sure they are sequential.
4. Hit the key for the hi hat really hard and then really soft and see if it shows up for just certain velocities. You might have accidentally set the velocity range to exclude certain velocities.
Good luck!
MusicTechHelpGuy Thank you for responding. One of my Oxford plug-ins failed to validate after I updated my MacBook. Once I disabled the plug-in I got the hats back 👍
Even though this sampler is a gigantic improvment over EXS24, this still seems like a tedious process. Good tutorial, though.
Where would I be without MusicatchHelpGuy?
This seems extremely tedious and not the simplified workflow Apple usually is known for
Wtf is all that wire ball!?
Wire ball?