Are Lectins Toxic? | Alan Flanagan & Matthew Nagra | The Proof Podcast EP

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  • @Macorelppa
    @Macorelppa Рік тому +36

    Dr. Matthew Nagra is one of the most brilliant and hardworking vegan doctor.

    • @carolineklutsch2514
      @carolineklutsch2514 Рік тому +2

      He is not a doctor by the way.

    • @StephenMarkTurner
      @StephenMarkTurner Рік тому +1

      But he is brilliant. Having an actual M.D. (like Gundry) certainly doesn't guarantee that someone is a good source of nutritional advice. @@carolineklutsch2514

    • @HeibesHealth
      @HeibesHealth Рік тому +8

      @@carolineklutsch2514He is a doctor. Not MD but ND.

  • @theflyingdutchman787
    @theflyingdutchman787 Рік тому +44

    Hiding behind one’s credentials to making demonstrably false claims to enrich oneself is the worst kind of quackery. There is seemingly no accountability for the harm Gundry is creating.

    • @lindapestridge3073
      @lindapestridge3073 Рік тому +7

      I never did trust dr gundry
      He probably isn't a dr LOL.

    • @walterski8377
      @walterski8377 Рік тому

      ​@@lindapestridge3073didn't trust him either full of BS he is a Dr a cardiac surgeon I guess makes him an expert on lectins and snake oil!?

    • @reggiedunlop2222
      @reggiedunlop2222 Рік тому

      Speaking of quacks…Dr. Fraudci is at the top of that list of doctors doing irreparable harm. Dr. Rochelle Walensky, of the CDC, is equally as culpable in promoting demonstrably false claims. Claims that have proven to result in fatal consequences. 💉❌

    • @jackschitt6235
      @jackschitt6235 11 місяців тому

      Several of the doctor gurus who have appeared on PBS are also on the most wanted list at QUACKWATCH. Hyman and Amen etc.

  • @Vixensublime
    @Vixensublime Рік тому +16

    I did a little experiment with myself: my thyroid specialist suggested I follow Dr. Gundry’s plan to help cure my Hashimoto’s thyroiditis. So, I went and stopped most lectins for three months and took a blood test. (Note that I am a whole food vegan). My antibodies did not go down at all. However, I started working on my gut Microbiome and re-introduced all the lectins and voilà! my antibodies went down considerably.

    • @seitanbeatsyourmeat666
      @seitanbeatsyourmeat666 Рік тому +3

      I have Hashimoto’s so this is good info, I’m also vegan (6/7 years but Hashimoto’s for 23 years). I’ve thought about cutting out wheat flour/berry out since I’ve read it mimics the thyroid at a cellular level, causing a larger autoimmune reaction. Idk though.
      Not cutting grains (corn, oats, etc), just wheat flour
      I should try it and get labs done afterward on my thyroid just to see if there’s a change. My levels have been stable for many years so far

    • @Vixensublime
      @Vixensublime Рік тому +2

      @@seitanbeatsyourmeat666 I try to avoid wheat and processed food, but not “lectins”

    • @arvidlystnur4827
      @arvidlystnur4827 10 місяців тому

      Get a new thyroid specialist.

  • @VeganGameChanger
    @VeganGameChanger Рік тому +16

    The 3 Musketeers! So excited about this talk and the proof of appropriate nutrition! Thank you Simon, Alan & Mathew!

  • @ItsJordaninnit
    @ItsJordaninnit Рік тому +11

    Two of my favourite nutrition science communicators in one conversation (3 including Simon) - YES PLEASE 🙏

  • @TenTempeh
    @TenTempeh Рік тому +22

    The actual plant paradox is that 'plants try to kill you' yet they improve your health. Or, as Matthew would say 'if plants are trying to kill you, they're doing a really bad job! '

  • @JammyRand
    @JammyRand Рік тому +7

    I love my instant pot so much! I cook beans several times a week. Blending them, mushing them, throwing them on top of everything from popcorn to overnight oats mushed black beansBeans are so versatile and the variety of them out there is staggering. Albeit hard to find a lot of the heirloom varieties. Thank you Simon for validating my life style once again. Although you probably are the one who inspired it years ago.

  • @DT-lf2up
    @DT-lf2up 10 місяців тому +1

    While non-practice-oriented but very bookish people continue to argue other people in whose solid hands are truly valuable and knowledgeable practical experience that doesn’t require broad spectrum accepting blessings - they always and ever stay one or usually way more steps ahead. Salud, Dr. Gundry. You have helped me a lot during these last 3 years.

  • @kst157
    @kst157 Рік тому +5

    Personally, I’ve found a great deal of Dr. Gundry’s podcasts and teachings are excellent and informative - whilst myself ignoring the lectins & his supplements adds (not many of these to be honest and other options are often given). He’s a heavily plant based educator and covers varied topics in way that I find useful. It doesn’t mean I agree with him all the time as I certainly don’t - just like any other channel. :)

  • @davacastillo8991
    @davacastillo8991 Рік тому +3

    Ty for debunking the fears some might have regarding foods that vegetarians rely on.

  • @LiftingVeganLogic
    @LiftingVeganLogic Рік тому +11

    Will be purchasing my LECTIN SHIELD today! Thanks!

  • @louisehibbert9768
    @louisehibbert9768 Рік тому +6

    I enjoyed this comedy episode 😁 and was glad to have it confirmed that lectins aren't a problem 👍. Could you please just ask Alan to move his giant microphone down so that people that don't hear as well can read his lips!

  • @earx23
    @earx23 Рік тому +1

    Thanks for this. I recently checked Gundry's advice against main stream summaries about the harm that lectins can cause. Loads of contradictions. So then I became aware that he might be a fraud. Thanks for the confirmation.

  • @Dan-mm7gc
    @Dan-mm7gc 3 місяці тому

    Such a good episode. Asides from the good data I think Alan is just a really good rhetorician, which is a skill that is really needed when dealing with sophistry and/or negligence.

  • @samieramohamed2467
    @samieramohamed2467 Рік тому +3

    Animal products if cut completely will reduce total cholesterol from first day . Did personal experience as a medical doctor on myself reduced my total cholesterol from 7.4 to 4.8 in 2 weeks but my liver enzymes raised a little bit in these 2 weeks because no oil at all even plant oil.

  • @dinokou7097
    @dinokou7097 Рік тому +5

    Legumes and nuts have been a stable food for Greeks especially Cypriot Geeeks for 100s if not thousand of years ...I grew up like millions of Greeks having at least 3 times a week a legume main meal. The Mediterranean diet is based on legumes as these foods form the most frequent consume food as a main meal , at least 3 times a week as I mentioned above. The people consuming legumes as their basis of their diet are the longest living and most healthy in the world. The whole argument about lectins is false if you follow the Mediterranean way of cooking and eating legumes which one of the most nutritious food on the planet. A diet based on legumes has to be encouraged from a very early age...

    • @classicgameplay10
      @classicgameplay10 8 місяців тому

      Is there a way i can learn more about the mediterranean way of cooking?

  • @BartBVanBockstaele
    @BartBVanBockstaele Рік тому +1

    59:01 Preparing beans: I always cook dried beans in a pressure cooker, without soaking. It is easy and fast and has the additional benefit that dried beans can easily be stored in relatively large quantities because they take less space than canned beans. I also **think** that they are tastier, possibly because I cook them without salt.

  • @jocelynd3317
    @jocelynd3317 Рік тому +2

    Wow loved this. My 3 favorite science nerds ❤❤❤

  • @aliciab4236
    @aliciab4236 Рік тому +4

    If you touched on sprouting beans I missed it. It is my understanding that sprouting beans reduces lectins. Do you know what percentage of the lectins are removed by sprouting? Since Dr. B recommends sprouting lentil I'm assuming they are safe and healthy.

  • @meman6964
    @meman6964 Рік тому +1

    Budget conscious are soaking and cooking dried legumes to save $$$
    Those who want to avoid "gas" do a 3 day soak changing water each day. No gas left. Nice cooked beans

  • @olyav5819
    @olyav5819 Рік тому +1

    Thanks for talking about this topic.

  • @shumwayalf
    @shumwayalf Рік тому +2

    critical tinking is a must! and what about that ozzie doc who promotes genetic tests for gluten sensitivity?

  • @lifebythecafterstrokeCHRISTINE

    QQQuestion: does your podcast include Dr’s like: Dr Mary & Mike Eades, or Dr. Westman, that have been studying for over 2decades? Just wondering if both sides are represented. I’m looking for both sides represented. (Not debates between the sides, I mean true interviews) Thanks

  • @pacificislandgirl
    @pacificislandgirl Рік тому +10

    Dr Steven Gundry, (followed him for a while) will say anything to sell his stuff. He is a salesman and statements border on mis-info comparable to a used car salesman.

  • @HealthMasterJedi
    @HealthMasterJedi Рік тому +7

    You guys seem to be misrepresenting Gundry to me, he actually doesnt say avoid beans he says he eats few times a week, but soaks and pressure cooks

    • @VegeCooking
      @VegeCooking Рік тому

      I think the issue is the sensationalized titles and text that are meant to sell supplements and books and confuse people: "The Plant Paradox: The Hidden Dangers in Healthy Foods That Cause Disease and Weight Gain. The Plant Paradox is a revolutionary look at the hidden compounds in "healthy" foods like fruit, vegetables, and whole grains that are causing us to gain weight and develop chronic disease."
      If he came out and said hey guys, I eat beans twice a week but don't eat raw, hard beans, it wouldn't sell many books because that's what people are already doing (if they actually eat beans).

    • @seitanbeatsyourmeat666
      @seitanbeatsyourmeat666 Рік тому

      You’re supped to soak and pressure cook them… so what you’re really saying is he’s in the business of fear mongering to sell his expensive pills as “protection” against something that soaking and pressure cooking takes care of?
      Yes, he’s a charlatan. Thanks for the admission 😂

  • @TheProofWithSimonHill
    @TheProofWithSimonHill  11 місяців тому +1

    Hello Friends,
    I'm curious to know which part of the conversation you found the most insightful and engaging. Also, if you have any other questions related to this subject, please post them below this comment. I'll make sure to include them in our next discussion.

    • @arvidlystnur4827
      @arvidlystnur4827 10 місяців тому

      Real great conversation, both for debunking gundry and secondly exposing how people can be manipulated into the quackery market.
      About 30 years ago I was hooked on the Barry Sears ZONE diet.
      He claimed all nutritional science, and medicine was mostly wrong, and HE knew the path to cardiovascular health, if you followed his system!
      Fortunately his dietary principles were pretty good, but after following his diet and buying his expensive books, I came to realize that he simply copied the conventional science, of which he criticized.
      Now that I can admit being hooked by quackery, let all beware that their own nutritional guru might market snake oil.
      Analyze nutrition as science, not a religion with a Messiah.

  • @OtileneSantos
    @OtileneSantos Рік тому

    Thank you guys for this talk. Very enlightening!

  • @shannon4830
    @shannon4830 Рік тому +2

    What about lectins in nuts? Would this be an issue considering nuts are often not cooked before eating?

  • @VegeCooking
    @VegeCooking Рік тому +1

    It's so frustrating that a book can be written about anything by anyone with some form of credential, but no actual knowledge or backing of valid scientific studies, and we have to spend so much time refuting their claims. This feels like the Atkins era. The number of times I've been asked about lectins is about as many times as where I get my protein.

  • @grmalinda6251
    @grmalinda6251 Рік тому

    Gluten caused swelling for 30 years eggs and beef did for 3 years. I now can eat most anything without any swelling.

  • @sectionalsofa
    @sectionalsofa Рік тому

    When Alan Flanagan refers to " a Tim Spector size red flag" I wonder if he means that Tim Spector is guilty of raising red flags or if he, like Flanagan, calls out others who raise red flags. Anyone know? My point is, I'm curious about what Alan Flanagan thinks of Tim Spector as a source of nutritional information, since I'm on the fence about him.

  • @fit4life939
    @fit4life939 Рік тому

    Oxalates???? I was a vegetarian for over 25 years. And the oxalates were destroying my kidneys! With kidney stones.then kidney cancer. I had to make big changes in my diet. so i been eating meat alot and fasting. I feel incredibly fit now at 58 no more kidneys Stones, stomach issues.

    • @TheProofWithSimonHill
      @TheProofWithSimonHill  Рік тому +4

      I am sorry about your kidney stones and kidney cancer, but being vegan or vegetarian does not inherently increase your risk of kidney stones. Excessive intake of oxalate rich foods like spinach does, but that has nothing to do with you being vegetarian.
      Other risk factors of kidney stones are low calcium intake, high animal protein intake, and low fruit and vegetable intake which your current diet seems to have.

  • @stayfrosty2832
    @stayfrosty2832 Рік тому

    The peanuts in peanut butter are roasted not raw aren’t they? At least mine says roasted peanuts on the tub

  • @toniferris4648
    @toniferris4648 Рік тому +1

    This is a wonderful health talk. Gundry is a quack. If you listen to Gundry you’ll be sick. Thank you for logic. Simon Hill always has knowledge filled discussions.

  • @charlesharkleroad9923
    @charlesharkleroad9923 10 місяців тому +1

    Listening to this Gundry beat down which I have zero loyality to the man, but your statement that there are gaps in understanding are unfortunate considering the ego's so apparent here today. Why not ignore Gundry and work together to find the answer to these gaps.

  • @heidirexin5141
    @heidirexin5141 Рік тому +2

    Awesome episode. Thank you! There are differences of opinion on what the data says, and then there is complete madeup falsehood.

  • @tor5457
    @tor5457 Рік тому +3

    Excellent as always! One of the best nutritional science podcasts out there, certainly one of my favorites. Destroying specious claims with evidence. But with all respect, please please Simon, try to avoid the ever-present and constant (over)use of “kinda" and "sorta". It waters down the language and is unnecessary to make any point. It's a form of fluff word or verbal tic similar to "like" and "literally". Limiting these silly (non)words will only make your speech better and more powerful, and you're such a wonderful speaker. Again, feedback given with love and respect.

    • @tor5457
      @tor5457 Рік тому +1

      @@panes840 The use of those words have spread like wildfire, or should I say COVID. Yes, it's an unconscious habit, which is why I brought it up. Precision in science and precision in language is a natural match.

    • @chiyerano
      @chiyerano Рік тому +1

      What about terms like 'somewhat'?

    • @TheProofWithSimonHill
      @TheProofWithSimonHill  Рік тому +2

      Thanks for the feedback!

  • @ioandoszlop5355
    @ioandoszlop5355 Рік тому

    Really..? are we not making a mistake like it was made 50-60 years ago? Whoever feels that he is getting healthy, can do it! The young people, who do not yet have the symptoms of evil, carry the "torch" of the injustices of "our brave grandfathers"! Yes. Religion, like the medical mafia, are left unpunished, except that it also has a positive aspect (good for what?). "Green them" who carry the "axe" of revenge for hundreds of years!!

  • @kevinbrannan8347
    @kevinbrannan8347 Рік тому

    Can I live on seal blubber if my parents did

  • @daniellebartier1115
    @daniellebartier1115 Рік тому +2

    Alan Flanagan flying very close to defamation action. His comments on Dr Gundry were absolutely brutal and a little unprofessional. I don't follow Gundry (nor care about what he days) but I was wincing hearing Alan Flanagan ripping Gundry to shreds. Tone it down, keep things respectful and professional. Don't drag the Proof down.

  • @veganpundit1
    @veganpundit1 Рік тому +2

    🎯🌱💪🏻

  • @semaaral2498
    @semaaral2498 Рік тому

    These doctors background on Science , I've no idea plus they are under 60 years old.
    So how shall we compare apples to pears?
    So you mean Lectins won't tigger artrit or other joint pains , then I'll be the happiest person on earth . You are saying may be ,
    "Encouraging of his special vitamin ? "🤷‍♀️
    Looking forward what is your point of view about " Lectin" rumours in the future not only with one podcast this issue could be clear🤥
    I skipped the main point as well.
    Is it placebo effect? You think we are experiencing this by obeying a lectin free world as much as we can.
    " every little helps"in lectin world..gluten etc.
    Pls discuss this confliction again so we can understand better.
    Did you people make any tests on nations like Indian, Asian who eats more lentils etc or Mediterrean people like me eat night shades nearly everyday most days but use only Virgin Olive Oil.
    We didn't know what is Coconut oil is.
    Lately Dr Nail Barnard said it's saturated fat & blocks the arteries.
    Reason Far East people won't have arteries problems are their genetic🧬🧬🧬
    Where as Mediterranean 🏖️people mostly have low HDL levels🫠under 35 ,
    meaning their arteries may block quickly than another person in far east who consumes Coconut oil everyday .
    Cause their & Anglesaxons born with high HDL level🙏which we call good choloesterol, protects their arteries getting plaque.
    So always mention the ethnicity while comparing these things.
    Thank you for everthing very useful topic😊
    Very informative podcast & like interviewer as well.
    We gives me sincere feeling .
    "I'm not a robot"😊
    God Bless🙏💙💙💙

  • @yvesjeaurond4937
    @yvesjeaurond4937 9 місяців тому

    If it's easy to teach, beware. Gundry isn't easy to fact-check. Btw, evidence is a technical term that has a much different meaning in science/bio-chemistry and for laypeople who use a biblical or common sense grasp of evidence.

  • @Aquapumpkin
    @Aquapumpkin Рік тому +1

    Ancient Ayurveda (the legit Ayurveda, not the woo version it’s become) actually advises against pressure cooking food. They knew that lectins were healthy for you, and that pressure cooking destroyed all of them vs regular cooking keeps some intact for you to benefit from

  • @StephenMarkTurner
    @StephenMarkTurner Рік тому +2

    What does Gundry ACTUALLY say? Avoid legumes, or cook them very well?

    • @aliciab4236
      @aliciab4236 Рік тому +6

      He tells people to avoid lectins and take his expensive supplement (Lectin Shield) which will protect you.

    • @gabymalembe
      @gabymalembe Рік тому +4

      Gundry said Eden brand canned beens are okay because they are pressure cooked, and pressure cooking destroys lectins. The generic canned beans I buy, which cost way less than Eden, are also pressure cooked.

    • @MrBluto2761
      @MrBluto2761 Рік тому +3

      ​@gabymalembe Eden cans have been BPA free for many years,before anyone was concerned about it. A bit more expensive but they're a great company that I don't mind supporting.

    • @bricklawson9745
      @bricklawson9745 Рік тому

      ​@@aliciab4236he doesn't say you have to take his supplements. People here have not read his book apparently

  • @charlesharkleroad9923
    @charlesharkleroad9923 10 місяців тому

    Simon just the arrogance of your two attendees alone makes one not trust these guys plus their bias is evident to anyone that has the ability to see through their resentment and hatred.

  • @patriciawallace14
    @patriciawallace14 Рік тому

    ❤❤❤

  • @Grâce-n1d4x
    @Grâce-n1d4x Рік тому +1

    Almost 30min still waiting on why Lectin is not that bad…

  • @elizabethk3238
    @elizabethk3238 Рік тому

    I always saw him as an outright LIAR. Just a money grabber.

  • @bricklawson9745
    @bricklawson9745 Рік тому +1

    I don't think you even read the book. LOL unsubscibed

  • @susiejones8866
    @susiejones8866 Рік тому

    So we have to always soak beans before cooking? @theproofwithsimonhill

    • @TheProofWithSimonHill
      @TheProofWithSimonHill  Рік тому

      Pressure cooking without soaking also destroys lectins faster than the time it takes for beans to become edible.
      "Pressure cooking without presoaking the beans decreased the lectin concentration to below detectable levels in 45 min. However, 60 min pressure cooking was required to soften the beans sufficiently to be edible. Commercially canned red kidney beans frequently eaten without further heating varied in lectin content but the levels were close to those of beans pressure cooked for about 30 min."
      doi.org/10.1111/j.1365-2621.1983.tb14831.x

    • @susiejones8866
      @susiejones8866 Рік тому

      @@TheProofWithSimonHillthank you!!