The only reasons Romain did not become best player of the year are Dupont and Kolbe while they all played together. He's very popular in France, his father was already.
In France of course we love him, but we need him to give us the Webb Ellis cup to consider him the goat. We're here since forever, one of the best countries, still never got one. If he does that, he basically makes history.
Why does he need a rwc win to become a Goat? RWC is a team events, Jonah Lomu was a Goat and he never won a RWC. Plenty of players who would be in the conversation about goats never won a rwc
He is undoubtedly the greatest player of this generation. It is impossible to compare eras, of course, because the game has changed so much. It may be that, in time, he will be spoken of in the same breath as Gareth Edwards. In terms of pure skillset, for my money, Edwards still has the edge, albeit slight. I don't think we've seen Dupont doing proper reverse passes like Edwards did, nor (I think) drop goals on the run. If he can show those skills, especially the reverse pass, then they will have to share the throne.
I have read that Gareth said it took so long to have someone compared to him that he feels relieved. That might be the greatest badge of honor Toto can get. ua-cam.com/video/lgpA6agIBio/v-deo.html
@pierre4322 I fully expect them to win a third time this year, they're peaking, at their best form, have few injured and are already showing great things. I'm confident and waiting for a 7th star on the jersey
he does not have a career like them, period. and they were also highly impactful, influential and skilled in their positions. at least as much as du pont. he does not compare to them.
@ I didn’t say it’s his fault. Playing in the Southern hemisphere isn’t relevant in terms of a players performance. It’s relevant in terms of calling him the GOAT, which he cannot be, since he hasn’t been thoroughly tested. I’d be surprised if he’d played any rugby at altitude.
C'est le meilleur au monde et sans doute de l'histoire de ce magnifique sport et ne pas le reconnaître parcequ'il n'a pas participé au tournoi des 6 nations, au profit du jeu à 7 est une absurdité totalement dogmatique et absurde (une secte de décérébrés qui désigne leur heritier, mais les fans s'en foutent et les méprise). Le meilleur EST le meilleur. Aucun joueur au monde ne vaut ce mec. Il est over the rainbow
GOATS win world cup(s)🏆🐐😌... Coz if he's THEE GOAT, then I don't really know what Jonah Lomu is 😏😅... And to also think that he's never won a world cup, geez 🤦🏾♂️😩... Dupont hasn't even been to a final! Calling him a GOAT is a bit much 😏😒... He's good... But certainly not the GREATEST OF ALL TIME!! Not now at least, maybe in future, but most definitely not now... 🚶🏾♂️
@AndreMalraux20341 My point exactly😌... He didn't win it, but still he's regarded as one of the greatest of all time... Calling Dupont a GOAT is really just too much... At least Lomu had an appearance in a final... Dupont only has a sevens Olympic gold medal... All I know is that It's too early to tell... Faf de Klerk has 2 world cups, and yet no one is busy calling a GOAT 😌...
@ncedongqwangi4155 how does winning a rwc in a team competition at all relevant on assessing a players performance. ? Faf has got 2 rwc medals but he isnt anywhere near goat status? Its ok if you prefer one of your own players but dont be surprised if most fans outside South Africa rate him
@@patrickchilds2987 I hear you 😌 And you're right... But Sam Cane won two consecutive world cups, and everyone was praising how great of a player he was... But now that the Boks have also gone back to back, no one is entertaining the thought of maybe naming one of our own as a GOAT... Instead, the northern hemisphere is busy proclaiming to have a player who's unquestionably the GOAT...? I MEAN 🤦🏾♂️... How's that fair?? Dupont is good, but calling him the GREATEST....? 😩😧... NAAAAH 😅😩😏....
@@OlivierLecerf les adversaires le déclarent injouable la plupart du temps, ils savent qu'il est imprévisible, n'a aucune limite sur ce qu'il peut faire et peut déclencher un essai à partir de rien.. un danger permanent
@@occitaniejemesouviens7508 exactement, je me souviens d'un compte rendu de match plus tôt cette année, Dupont : 6/10 très bon match. Mais évidemment, ses matchs c'est plutôt 8-9 / 10 donc à 6/10 on est déçu
He is a great player but he isn't even close to being the GOAT. Club Rugby achievements don't even really Count when talking about the GOAT. You have to show your best on the biggest stage and his achievements in international rugby are minimal.
« Minimal » ? Apart from the World Cup, which he lost by a single point in a controversial match against the world champion team, he has won everything so far. Every team in the world has literally changed the way they play because of him. It's a testament to his impact on modern rugby. So he’s maybe not the GOAT yet, but he’s not so far
@ almost winning a quarter final in the World Cup in your own country wouldn’t be a big achievement for the GOAT. The whole All Blacks team also almost Won the World Cup by one point. The fact is besides the 6 nations he has no other international achievement. Never won a test series in the Southern hemisphere. And yes I get it that the French don’t sent their full strength teams but that doesn’t change the fact. Also unfortunately can’t be picked for the Lions which would add to the resume. I guess in some minds seemingly those in the North he is the GOAT but in the South his achievements don’t compare to the All black greats and even recently the Springboks.
French fan here, i don't think he's considered the best French player ever in France. For some older fans, Serge Blanco still holds this consideration.
@@Popey74Non mais il n'a jamais été champion du monde...il faut arrêter l'usage démesuré de superlatifs pour Dupont. C'est un grand joueur mais de là à le proclamer meilleur joueur de tous les temps, faut pas déconner...
Aucun rapport.. la france s est fait volée contre l Afrique du Sud à la dernière coupe du monde.. Et puis messi, au foot avant d être champion du monde était déjà considéré comme le goat....
@@maylisdubois8166 ne pas être champion du monde ne signifie pas ne pas être le meilleur joueur du monde. Ti devrais savoir que pour être champ du monde il y a beaucoup d autre paramètres à prendre en compte!! S il demain le meilleur joueur de tous les temps aux qualités les plus incroyables naît en temps que Azerbaïdjanais, il ne sera jamais champion du monde car son pays n à pas d équipe.. c est n importe quoi ce raisonnement
goat is such an overused, weak term these days. He had not a decade long incredible career like say Aaaron smith or George Gregan, so i'm not sure where people get this from. not to mention, he was recently outplayed by roigard so theres that.
An totally overrated little Frenchman... "he" didn't won nothing, his team did it for him, with him.. Stop this "holy boost" nonsense on a guy as good as the other good ones all over the world... All unsung hero's due to not having "French Connections" in the media or family that can pull strings.... Best coach in the World, ffs, where did that come from..... I wonder, yes I wonder....
@arthurdums5045 and France haven't won a world cup lol. Roigard is his daddy and he's just getting started boy. He's fresh off an injury..wtf do you think comes next boy 🤡🤡🤡🤡
*Edit* - We made a mistake in the video for number 3. Dupont has won the Top 14 4 times and the Champions cup twice.
And a u20 world champ
How many World Cups?
Seriously - any ‘greatest of all time’ references need to be backed up with world title wins. He’s needs this to be truly great.
@@essbeenz Like the 6 Nations Tournament 2022 won by France with Dupont as captain. Not international enough? 🙄
you're right, you just anticipated
Can we pls talk about how Ntamack just baited 4 people in one run and went through them like it was nothing
The only reasons Romain did not become best player of the year are Dupont and Kolbe while they all played together.
He's very popular in France, his father was already.
1:13 that try from Romain Ntamack tho... damn
IMHO it doesn't count as an assist. Ntamack did it all
Sharks defence should get that try assist
Attention cette vidéo va pop tous les rageux D'AFS.. 😂😘
ça c'est trop bon
Vraisemblable..
Ils n'en ont pas fini avec leur apartheid et leur régime fasciste...
At 3.10: this try was scored as Toulouse was 13 vs 15. Notice the crazy move by Ramos to escape the line out.
Of course. The velocity and IQ are phenomenals
If he's not the GOAT, he's clearly one of the most complete player currently on the field.
First player I've seen to actually flatten litteraly the ball 😂
He’s the GOAT not for his trophies, but because he embodies rugby.
In France of course we love him, but we need him to give us the Webb Ellis cup to consider him the goat.
We're here since forever, one of the best countries, still never got one.
If he does that, he basically makes history.
Why does he need a rwc win to become a Goat? RWC is a team events, Jonah Lomu was a Goat and he never won a RWC. Plenty of players who would be in the conversation about goats never won a rwc
@@patrickchilds2987 You'd agree if you were French sir.
First we have to pay referees like some other teams, then it's doable :p
3:10. Ramos. What a freak
1:11 you can't seriously call that pass an assist haha
He is undoubtedly the greatest player of this generation. It is impossible to compare eras, of course, because the game has changed so much. It may be that, in time, he will be spoken of in the same breath as Gareth Edwards. In terms of pure skillset, for my money, Edwards still has the edge, albeit slight. I don't think we've seen Dupont doing proper reverse passes like Edwards did, nor (I think) drop goals on the run. If he can show those skills, especially the reverse pass, then they will have to share the throne.
I have read that Gareth said it took so long to have someone compared to him that he feels relieved. That might be the greatest badge of honor Toto can get. ua-cam.com/video/lgpA6agIBio/v-deo.html
What a team
he won EPCR champion's cup twice and not four times. Which is a feat of strength anyway.
Ahh, that's our mistake. Apologies.
@@rugby-verse Very nice vid anyway, I love what you picked for #1, I didn't expect that and it's nice
twice.. so far 😏
@pierre4322 I fully expect them to win a third time this year, they're peaking, at their best form, have few injured and are already showing great things. I'm confident and waiting for a 7th star on the jersey
@@timotheepetit seasons are long, a lot can happen. But on current form it’s hard to think of anyone else taking that trophy from them.
The last one is certainly what makes him a GOAT, destroying things on the field is certainly a goat attribute 😁
The goat is the commentator of Rugbyverse.
Antoine Dupont has been voted the best player in the world and it makes some assholes sick with jealousy
Club rugby? Nobody counts what Carter or McCaw did in Super rugby when making a case for Goat status.
he does not have a career like them, period. and they were also highly impactful, influential and skilled in their positions. at least as much as du pont. he does not compare to them.
Je veux vraiment concourir
He is a fantastic player. Definitely the best scrum-half in the world today. Not sure about GOAT, though. He hasn't earned it yet.
I think he has
@@WetSands More than the double world cup winners of the past?
@@billybones6137 sure
And in defense he is so good too
He ain’t a GOAT he is THE RAM
Olimpic gold medail 7S
Played 3 minimum of rugby in the Southern Hemisphere
So what , it's not his fault France haven't toured there ? How is playing in SH more relevant than NH in terms of a players performance?
@ I didn’t say it’s his fault. Playing in the Southern hemisphere isn’t relevant in terms of a players performance. It’s relevant in terms of calling him the GOAT, which he cannot be, since he hasn’t been thoroughly tested. I’d be surprised if he’d played any rugby at altitude.
C'est le meilleur au monde et sans doute de l'histoire de ce magnifique sport et ne pas le reconnaître parcequ'il n'a pas participé au tournoi des 6 nations, au profit du jeu à 7 est une absurdité totalement dogmatique et absurde (une secte de décérébrés qui désigne leur heritier, mais les fans s'en foutent et les méprise). Le meilleur EST le meilleur. Aucun joueur au monde ne vaut ce mec. Il est over the rainbow
He simply is the GOAT of rugby
Et le meilleur pour Airbnb aussi....😂
5 times x 100
GOATS win world cup(s)🏆🐐😌... Coz if he's THEE GOAT, then I don't really know what Jonah Lomu is 😏😅... And to also think that he's never won a world cup, geez 🤦🏾♂️😩... Dupont hasn't even been to a final! Calling him a GOAT is a bit much 😏😒... He's good... But certainly not the GREATEST OF ALL TIME!! Not now at least, maybe in future, but most definitely not now... 🚶🏾♂️
Jonah Lomu won no Word Cup
@AndreMalraux20341 My point exactly😌... He didn't win it, but still he's regarded as one of the greatest of all time... Calling Dupont a GOAT is really just too much... At least Lomu had an appearance in a final... Dupont only has a sevens Olympic gold medal... All I know is that It's too early to tell... Faf de Klerk has 2 world cups, and yet no one is busy calling a GOAT 😌...
@ncedongqwangi4155 how does winning a rwc in a team competition at all relevant on assessing a players performance. ?
Faf has got 2 rwc medals but he isnt anywhere near goat status?
Its ok if you prefer one of your own players but dont be surprised if most fans outside South Africa rate him
@@patrickchilds2987 I hear you 😌 And you're right... But Sam Cane won two consecutive world cups, and everyone was praising how great of a player he was... But now that the Boks have also gone back to back, no one is entertaining the thought of maybe naming one of our own as a GOAT... Instead, the northern hemisphere is busy proclaiming to have a player who's unquestionably the GOAT...? I MEAN 🤦🏾♂️... How's that fair?? Dupont is good, but calling him the GREATEST....? 😩😧... NAAAAH 😅😩😏....
Il doit quand même être pénible pour les autres... Hahaha...
@@OlivierLecerf les adversaires le déclarent injouable la plupart du temps, ils savent qu'il est imprévisible, n'a aucune limite sur ce qu'il peut faire et peut déclencher un essai à partir de rien.. un danger permanent
Maintenant, quand il fait un très bon match , on est déçu .
@@occitaniejemesouviens7508 exactement, je me souviens d'un compte rendu de match plus tôt cette année, Dupont : 6/10 très bon match. Mais évidemment, ses matchs c'est plutôt 8-9 / 10 donc à 6/10 on est déçu
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He is a great player but he isn't even close to being the GOAT. Club Rugby achievements don't even really Count when talking about the GOAT. You have to show your best on the biggest stage and his achievements in international rugby are minimal.
« Minimal » ? Apart from the World Cup, which he lost by a single point in a controversial match against the world champion team, he has won everything so far.
Every team in the world has literally changed the way they play because of him. It's a testament to his impact on modern rugby.
So he’s maybe not the GOAT yet, but he’s not so far
@ almost winning a quarter final in the World Cup in your own country wouldn’t be a big achievement for the GOAT. The whole All Blacks team also almost Won the World Cup by one point. The fact is besides the 6 nations he has no other international achievement. Never won a test series in the Southern hemisphere. And yes I get it that the French don’t sent their full strength teams but that doesn’t change the fact. Also unfortunately can’t be picked for the Lions which would add to the resume. I guess in some minds seemingly those in the North he is the GOAT but in the South his achievements don’t compare to the All black greats and even recently the Springboks.
Kak man...
Tell them @yeayou 😂
international rugby Olympic Games i mean
French fan here, i don't think he's considered the best French player ever in France. For some older fans, Serge Blanco still holds this consideration.
I don´t agree, he´s way above Blanco and in a time when the game is much more physical than before!
Je crois que plus personne ne pense ça encore en France, même Blanco ne faisait pas autant de différence
faux
Il y a quelques années peut être mais aujourd’hui le débat est clos, Dupont a + changé le game que Serge
Very average player who never won the Currie Cup 😂
Thank you for the truth... Overrated little guy.
😂😂😂 vous regardez le rugby depuis qd?? 3jours?
@@Popey74Non mais il n'a jamais été champion du monde...il faut arrêter l'usage démesuré de superlatifs pour Dupont. C'est un grand joueur mais de là à le proclamer meilleur joueur de tous les temps, faut pas déconner...
@@Popey74 My comment is so stupid that it's obvsiously sacarstic and second degree, but apparently it's what some South Africans really believe
@@prt6000 so stupide
How many world cups does this frenchman have? GOAT rofl you guys are crazy
Aucun rapport.. la france s est fait volée contre l Afrique du Sud à la dernière coupe du monde..
Et puis messi, au foot avant d être champion du monde était déjà considéré comme le goat....
I agree
@Popey74 Volés ou pas (c'est un vaste débat tendancieux), il n'a jamais été champion du monde jusqu'à présent, donc,il n'est pas le meilleur.
@@maylisdubois8166 ne pas être champion du monde ne signifie pas ne pas être le meilleur joueur du monde. Ti devrais savoir que pour être champ du monde il y a beaucoup d autre paramètres à prendre en compte!!
S il demain le meilleur joueur de tous les temps aux qualités les plus incroyables naît en temps que Azerbaïdjanais, il ne sera jamais champion du monde car son pays n à pas d équipe.. c est n importe quoi ce raisonnement
How is winning a RWC a team competition any barometer into How good player is ?
How about win a world cup or something? Not even remotely the goat.
goat is such an overused, weak term these days. He had not a decade long incredible career like say Aaaron smith or George Gregan, so i'm not sure where people get this from. not to mention, he was recently outplayed by roigard so theres that.
all his accolades are in Europe. no world cup !!!!!
he is a goat in his moms back yard.
An totally overrated little Frenchman...
"he" didn't won nothing, his team did it for him, with him..
Stop this "holy boost" nonsense on a guy as good as the other good ones all over the world...
All unsung hero's due to not having "French Connections" in the media or family that can pull strings....
Best coach in the World, ffs, where did that come from..... I wonder, yes I wonder....
sour grapes
Can’t you just Enjoy the game bro ?
GOAT connaissez-vous la traduction de ce mot .
INADMISSIBLE. Changez le titre de votre vidéo. Un peu plus de respect svp.
lol ! j'imagine que tu sais la definition de goat autrement que "chèvre" : Greatest Of All Time
Inculte...
GOAT c'est on ne peut plus respectueux, c'est l'acronyme de Greatest Of All Time
Quelle chèvre ce charlescavallier…
Bullsh!t.....
I'm an English coach in case you need professional help. :D
nope, still kolbe
hahahaah, la blague
@timald974 non non kolbe c'est le vrai goat
@@BriceYoussamenon non kolbe est grave sur côté Dupont le broie
Kolbe top 2 actually
Kolbe cannot handle Dupont to the point a referee had to give a red card to Dupont because Kolbe doesn't know how to jump.
C'est sans conteste le meilleur et plus intelligent joueur du moment ❤
The goat? Bro plays against trash opposition 90% of the time lol. Roigard made him his son.
And roigard still lost the game
You've only watched one Dupont game and you think Roigard is better lol stop watching rugby kid
@@andremaube5069 I'll stop watching when you win a world cup finally after 20 years 🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡
@arthurdums5045 and France haven't won a world cup lol. Roigard is his daddy and he's just getting started boy. He's fresh off an injury..wtf do you think comes next boy 🤡🤡🤡🤡
@@andremaube5069 you hold on to your one northern world cup little girl 🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡