Sam is too smart to know that the reason trump won wasn't due to identity politics but economic politics. When inflation got as bad as it did in 2022-2023 not even Obama himself would have won reelection. This leads me to believe Sam is being disingenuous on purpose, but for what reason
It sure as fuck wouldn't have been buried had Kamala won. She'd have simply doubled down on it the way the MSM is right now, and followed through on making loans to "oppressed minorities" and continuing to treat white Americans like the devil.
Frustrated may not be the right word. Even a few days before the election he had a podcast suggesting the outcome may go this direction. To most people comparing Trump to almost anyone is an obvious choice. Trump has no values nor does he seem to care for anyone. That's just really odd. Yet.. he won. Unhappy with the extreme left makes sense. Unhappy with social media and the weirdness it is heading towards. And unhappy with the fact that what were once Republicans has now become a mass of folks that approve of a style of personality rather than intelligence, values, and competence.
@@BabudroSun If you want to get all technical and correct random people on UA-cam, then let me do the same to you... Sam did say it twice. You are, technically speaking, incorrect.
This is, hands down, one of the best summaries of our current state and how the Democratic party and progressive Left can move forward. Sam Harris has done us all a great service memorializing it. My hope is political leaders take his points to heart...
If the democrats take some of Sam's messages to heart they will never win again. I don't think that Sam has thought this through. If he had, he would realize that he does not want the alternative to the type of democratic party he describes. He simply wants the democrats to be republican light. The republican light strategy was tried in 2016, and again this time. It did not work either time. All of this culture war BS is just a distraction. It is the republicans who want to talk about it most. About the democrats running too far left, consider that Bernie Sanders ran far, FAR to the left of any of the last democratic candidates. He probably would have won too. FDR was one of the most popular presidents ever, and he was practically a Marxist. His radical left Marxist policies included 99% taxes on the ultra rich, huge redistribution of wealth, and massive public employment programs. This radical Marxist agenda paved the way for the rise of the American middle class and a golden age of American economic growth and business. An empowered proletariat has more money, including more money to buy all of the things who's demand made our economy hum like never before in the decades after the war. Such policies today could make the democrats very popular, but not with the big donors and not with Wall Street. I don’t think Sam would like this agenda either, so perhaps he should not complain about a democratic party mired in “woke” culture war BS.....he would not like the real alternative.
Finally I found a podcast where it is ok to be left, but also seriously critize the far left. Thank you for saying out loud what has been going through my mind in the last years. I literally agree with everything you say.
I'm trans and I agree. However, I take issue with some of the trans blame. Let me preface this with, this is a soft critique and I'm not seething in ideological rage.. Just trying to add a little nuance to the topic. Can we note that the Trump campaign grossly misrepresented the trans topic, spending $215 million on ads to inflame the topic, make bombastic claims that nine year olds are given SRS or we want to overrun sports? He has inflated the issue and promoted discrimination. There was an effort by his campaign to represent all of us as the radical minority. There was much much more focus on transgender topics from the right than the left during this election. Topics that were exclusively cast in a negative, threatening or controversial light. The reality is, most of us do not want the attention or drama. Social transitioning is difficult and painful and wrought with rejection and judgement, but it is also an incredible experience of self-realization, self-love, independence, unique perspective on the world, connection, community, feeling genuine, an invigoration of life etc. Nonetheless, many of us are perceived with the presumption that we were captured by the cultural contagion and that it's a lifestyle CHOICE. Acknowledging child dysphoria is a nuanced and difficult topic, here's my partial anecdote. I grew up with dysphoria and internalized the transphobia present in entertainment media, my family and the public, attempting suicide at eight years old. I continued to suffer from suicidal ideation, disassociation, self-loathing and depression into early adulthood until I stopped treating transitioning like it was a choice.. That realization has been profoundly impactful on my well-being, life and pursuit of happiness while diminishing my liberty and societal acceptance. Transitioning after puberty is completely different as our bodies, face and muscle-skeletal system develop to our primary sex hormone. Effects that persist throughout our adulthood and can only be partially remedied with hormonal therapy and surgery. Effects that erode our ability to assimilate or diminish our self-perception. With that being said, I would never encourage a child to contemplate their gender if there's not a pre-existing issue. In a perfect world that existed in a vacuum, we'd simply listen to our kids instead of imposing our own confusion. Its a difficult gap to bridge. Families and environments are composed of countless variables. Mine continually reinforced the idea that trans and homosexuals were "disgusting," amongst other things. Kids growing up in small town Texas are going to have a completely different perspective on the topic than those in Portland, Oregon. However, some are open minded and are willing to listen to their children. I'm not sure how you reconcile those two and provide the infrastructure for the former scenario without confusing kids at large. I think we'd all do less harm by not forcing families to comply. Instead, spread the positive message. Build trust in the science, explain how to differentiate trend v. psychology, mitigate psychologist bias etc. Be there for those who do experience it. Express our life experiences in a way that promotes compassion and understanding rather than reinforcing a stigmatization. I'm also conflicted about the cultural contagion topic. There are divisions in transgender spaces of dysphorics and trenders. That trenders are propagandistic fuel to diminish our place in society. That they reinforce stigmatization by presenting transitioning as a flippant choice. That they've clumsily stepped all over the basic rights, protections, acceptance and liberties we've fought for. They eagerly expect benefits we worked so hard to get from experiencing hardships that deeply hurt most of us and now demand a seat at the table of how we are represented. However, I can't help but question, what's so bad about it being a lifestyle choice so long as it doesn't infringe on others? I don't think they're guilty of what all the right says aside from some isolated events. I don't think they're peeping on women and children in the bathroom, transitioning for personal gain, enter women's prisons or to dominate sports. Most aren't trying to convert kids.. Some are guilty of all of those things, but there are creeps, crazies and weirdos in every group.. I'm not generalizing all right wing voters as neo-nazis even though that faction generally supports Trump. Home issues are one thing, but societal rights, liberties, protections and opportunities seem somewhat easy to address without inciting bigotry. Bottomline is, yes, left radicals have grossly overstepped and are overly received to our detriment, however, the right has inflated the issues beyond recognition. Sam did a good job of softening it, but generally has accepted a bad-faith argument in transgender care. I'm trying not to be pedantic, but I think it's a worthwhile observation. I do appreciate his specifying of "trans activist," instead of simply "transgenders." It would have been nice if we were presented in a similar fashion as latin americans who don't support being spoken for by radicals who try to enforce "latin-x." Please differentiate radicals and bad actors from the rest of us. Thank you for acknowledging some of our struggles and some of the nuances within transgender care. I think there's some room for positivity and humanization in the discussion at large.
Sorry to burst your bubble but Sam harris showed his true colors during covid lockdowns and vaccine mandates and is genuinley blinded by Trump derangment syndrome. Youll grow tired of him soon enough I basically promise that.
Sorry but leftist don't need even more leftist willing to criticize the left when the right is completely incapable of taking any measurable stance against Trumpism. Sam is just preaching to the converted
And the elitist circle jerk continues. Lessons weren't learned in 2016 and I doubt they will be learned in 2024 that's sort of the problem with our arrogant out of touch elite class. History is filled with this story playing out in America today.
Ive been saying this for years. Try walking into a traditional Latino household and talking to them about “systems of patriarchy” and see how far that gets you
“Many were increasingly of the opinion that they’d all made a big mistake in coming down from the trees in the first place. And some said that even the trees had been a bad move, and that no one should ever have left the oceans.” ― Douglas Adams
There is one wrong assumption being made here: it is lot that all those that voted for Trump ignored his flaws or are unaware of them. They simply disliked the postmodernist left more.
What I find unconvincing about your argument is that I gave many Trump supporters the opportunity to acknowledge serious flaws about Trump but still conclude that he is the lesser of two evils to them. These Trump supporters refuse to acknowledge any serious flaws. In fact, they would view his flaws as features not bugs.
@@jasonhead4280 Yep. We love everything about the whole Trump phenomenon. Especially now that he's been reelected with an inarguable MANDATE to change the course of this country. Every single thing the Dems have done to "stop Trump" added to the reasons we needed to stop THEM. They shat on every word of our Constitution and wiped their asses with the Bill of Rights. They weaponized the judicial system against a GAME SHOW HOST just bc they truly couldn't defend their own political stances. Nobody deserves the victory of Trump and this mandate more than every single Democrat
Sam got this one a bit wrong. Per capita, crime is now and has generally always been higher in Republican and conservative states and counties. Even in California the per capita crime and violence trends higher in its most Republican and conservative counties and cities.
Bernie Sanders had a great line in his recent conversation with Lex on his pod. What issues are neither side talking about? The influence of money in politics, universal healthcare, and raising the minimum wage. These should be issues the democratic party is addressing, and the Harris campaign was way to corporatist to connect to real problems that the current party has no plans to address.
“Black teenage unemployment in the United States was roughly equal to white teenage unemployment until the minimum wage was raised. It is no accident that the rate of black teenage unemployment is much higher than white teenage unemployment. The effects are discriminatory, even though it’s not intended.” -Milton Friedman
My problem with universal healthcare is that the people advocating for it want it to be unconditional. I don't think it's fair to force a person who's disciplined enough to maintain a healthy lifestyle to fork over part of their earnings to pay for individuals who CHOOSE to mutate themselves into The People of Walmart.
Bernie needs to stop trying to sell government-only monopolized healthcare as universal healthcare. Providing baseline healthcare that everyone can access is a good idea that's actually popular. Banning any privatized healthcare is immoral and something that most people will never vote for.
@@mattturner5429Many many people who contract or have serious illness or other serious medical conditions have them through no fault of their own, in a myriad of ways. You sound like ex-Alabama senator Mo Brooks.
"The dumbing down of American is most evident in the slow decay of substantive content in the enormously influential media, the 30 second sound bites (now down to 10 seconds or less), lowest common denominator programming, credulous presentations on pseudoscience and superstition, but especially a kind of celebration of ignorance" --Carl Sagan
Ya Sam lives in an echo chamber and he clearly is so disconnected from the average American who voted for trump 2/1 in most places and 50/50 everywhere else so not to mention being extremely wrong about Covid and lockdowns/vaccines, he’s been so far from right political that only ppl in an echo chamber and media propaganda think this way.
Thank you Sam. For remaining steadfast and speaking out. A lot of people are adapting to a new normal and rationalizing what is happening. I know you have gotten a lot of pushback. But having you as a steady voice has been important for many of us.
It was mostly just the perception of the economy and the fact that the GOP tapped into people not giving a shit about reality or statistical data. As long as you tell people you care, affirm their position, and promise the world, you win. Even if it is all fake. We now live in the idiocracy and Trump is president Commacho promising to cut the price of car insurance by 50%. Doesn't matter if inflation is down, unemployment is down, growth is up, etc. If you can sell a lie and scapegoat problems, you win.
@@Uppernorwood976 I had friends in swing states tell me they thought the commercial was a parody or SNL skit, the notion of supporting that was so absurd.
Amazing that all these people Sam once respected, associated with and admired are now untouchables in his eyes. Sam, what are the odds they're ALL wrong?
I am an American who has just spent three years living in Latin America. Literally *every single person* I have heard use the term "Latinx" was a white American.
You hit the nail on the head Sam - I agree with the analysis on every issue here. In the absence of the great Christopher Hitchens, we’re lucky to have commentators like you who cut through the confusion and bring clarity to the seemingly complex current landscape.
Sam has lost his marbles. Trump won because inflation was really really bad between 2022- early 2024. It's hard to win reelection when the cost of living increased as fast and as high as it did.
@@soberanisfam1323 inflation was just over 2% this year, brain trust. And 100% of the economic pain Americans have been suffering is the result of Trump’s presidency and policies. 100%. You probably blame FDR for the Great Depression as well😏
@@shacktime so what was inflation in 2022 and 2023? You do know that inflation is cumulative right? Did you get a 10 or 20 or 30 percent raise between 2022-2024? Most Americans didn’t which is why the cost of living went up substantially for those Americans in those 3 years. FOH with your disingenuous 2%.
I'm a liberal and have never voted for a Republican presidential candidate (though I voted for my moderate Republican senator Arlen Spector before he was replaced by "tea party" radical Pat Toomey). I've been voting for 44yrs and I'm a "person of color." Let me tell you. Sam is 100% correct. Denying that the Left hasn't helped to put us in this terrible position as a nation is pure, unmitigated, cope. So many of my fellow liberals have been saying the same thing for years... only to be called transphobic, islamaphobic, or some other, made up just yesterday, bullshit, merely for wanting to discuss this stuff reasonably. Enough is enough.
I'm a Liberal myself and if you've truly been voting for the past 44 years, what do you make of Liberals, progressives and dems being lumped into one party over the last 20 years or so? I've been voting since the early 80's and i have more in common with the Republican party today than i do with the Democrat party. If you've truly been a Liberal all these years, you should be against big government and big business, you should be 1000% in favor of free speech and 2nd amendment rights. These are all Liberal values and things Dems such at. There also seems to be little accountability for the fact that Harris was a horrific candidate. How many delegates did she win in 2020, ZERO!? In 2020 she ran as a very progressive candidate and just 4 short years later she 180'd on everything she ran on in 2020 pretending to be a more moderate middle of the road Dem. Of course people are allowed to change their minds but on EVERYTHING!? And to 180 on it all!? Did she truly even have stances on anything or was she just saying whatever in an attempt to grab power? Why is Trump such a bad candidate? Can you give me actual reasons other than BS headline buzz words and phrases? "Jan 6", "convicted felon", "racist", "homophobe", ext...
@jacoblee5796 Sorry man, that he is a 34x convicted felon, a civilly adjudicated rapist, has been convicted of fraud and successfully sued because of it, and he stoled from a children's cancer charity makes him a scumbag. That your moral compass is so goddamned broken that you find his to be acceptable as a president, let alone as a man, is pathetic and speaks volumes about you as a person.
@@hewhomustnotbenamed9276Buddy if you believe Trump is a 34 count convicted felon you’re drinking way too much kool-aid. Even Sam Harris has stated that was total BS and a shame court case. I suppose you think Kobe Bryant is a grapist as well then? A long with thousands of other rich powerful men that have settled civil cases? You may have me on the children’s charity, I haven’t heard that one before. But these other two just make you look ignorant.
An all those true classical liberals voted for Trump. Tulsi is a classical liberal, so is RFK, Rogan, Rubin.... Whether you like it or not, Trump represents those classical liberal values. But people are blinded by their TDS
@@greg.ocallaghan Really? Cutting taxes for the rich, killing workers unions, de-regulation to the point that corporations can become a monopoly to raise price to however they want is classical liberalism? That's what happen when you voted for Trump and Elon Musk, but because you are so focused on the cultural war you missed the big picture. Just for reference: FDR raised massive taxes on the rich and created Medicare and Social Security. Theodore Roosevelt used his government muscle to take down the monopolies and the oil barons to protect consumers, and also created national parks to conserve America's nature. If you want classical, those guys are both classical liberal and conservative for you. There has to be a balance. Conclusion: Trump and modern GOP is NOT your friend. They conned you guys big time.
Let’s look on the bright side-there is at least one thing Democrats and Republicans have in common: the conclusion that Americans got the president they deserve.
I truly believe people vote for the opposing party if they feel their lives are doing worse. It doesn't matter who's at "fault," if the matters are in the control of politicians or not, or what the culture war is doing. If people feel as though their lives are better, they vote for the incumbent party. If they feel as though their lives are worse, then vote for the opposition. It's not really any more complicated than that, in my opinion.
exactly. Sam's issue is mistaking what people think they're voting for or against with what they're actually voting for or against. Nobody gives a flying fuck about trans rights or trans issues if their lives are getting better, if they're earning more money than they did before and they can afford a better life than they did before, and they have better healthcare, less crime, and so on. But if all of those things are getting worse for them, they'll find everything and anything to blame it on, and the right will usually help them with that.
I've been screaming this to anyone who'll listen since last Wed. I think your description hits the bullseye for "swing voters," i.e. the 3-6% who vote but can truly go either way any given election. Most of these people are utterly clueless about policy and even superficial politics. Many of them would literally vote for Hitler reincarnate in order to punish the incumbent if they felt (correctly, or due to numerical illiteracy as in the case of wages outpacing inflation) their personal financial situation was marginally worse than 4 years ago. Note that I didn't say "if they felt strongly that Hitler had a better economic platform" -- they don't even make it that far in their rationale. It's simply a knee-jerk reaction against the incumbent with no further thought, for the most part.
I agree Sam. I had to go through DEI about 6 times with an organization I recently retired from and it was so annoying. Sorry not sorry, but I will continue to use the word homeless person.
Unhoused. Which, from a European perspective… is actually quite accurate. We don‘t blame people who are in the worst spot possible and actually would feel ashamed to leave people unhoused. But that‘s just us silly Europeans who don‘t gloat over the poor.
@@BleakVision so the difference is that being unhoused is a passive state in which the onus lies on others to provide housing? As opposed to homeless which makes no implied reference to the prospective source of shelter?
The fact that you don't believe something, doesn't mean necessarily it is a lie. You put too much trust in your own, not always well-founded understanding of things.
“The fact that we have had to think about this man continuously for over a decade is just an incredible piece of bad luck”. Amen. Edit: this sure is a Sam Harris crowd, both for and against.
I have my choice moving forward, turning anything off with his face/voice on. Control the controllable. Hope we still have our democracy after 4 years, feel bad for people working in the field has to deal with him. What’s a curse.
No, no one thinks about this man unless u have an ego or narcissism, I care and most ppl I know care about the policies and wat he can do for my family and bank account! I could care less if he’s an asshole or even a racist which he isn’t but I wouldn’t care if he made the lives of Americans better. Which he does over a Biden/Harris administration.
It’s most decidedly not the access to information making us dumber, it’s the cultural Marxism which insists on teaching young people that critical examination of itself is counter revolutionary and and immoral act in itself-simply a manifestation of your oppressor or privileged status. This is not new. It’s the unwillingness to listen to viewpoints critical to our own or to hold open debate which is making “us” dumber. You ever see leftists try and defend critical inquiry into their positions? It’s not just “like” the first time they’ve ever heard them, it possibly IS. Conservatives are forced to sharpen and defend their ideas in college because they are constantly attacked-and I don’t just mean the ideas, I mean the people who dare to hold or speak them. And by “conservative” ideas, I mean all those liberal and libertarian positions which the left has othered as well. It’s how the middle became the right. Simply by standing still and cleaving to some pretty uncontroversial and plain sense principles.
@@charlesvan13authority in knowledge is important for a reason. Whenever you have a serious problem, think of whether you want the expert or the podcaster to solve it
Long time Dem here. My take is that our party, has for too long, tried to be 'nice' to everyone. We avoid the white, working class majority issues and focus on helping the marginal. Yes, I agree that being a nice human being is important but you can not ignore what is putting fear into everyday Americans.
Long time Dem here as well and I completely disagree with your assertion that the party, for far too long, has tried to be nice to "everyone". Far from it. You frame the party's enormous flaws as a positive, but it's demonstrably not true. Affirmative action policies are nice to blacks (and Latinos) who can't otherwise cut it because public schools in blue cities have failed to do their jobs and not nice to whites and Asians. DEI policies are nice for the blacks (and Latinos) who can't otherwise cut it because public schools in blue cities have failed them, but horrible for everyone who cares about meritocracy, maintaining high standards, and free speech. Immigration policies like Democratic sanctuary cities and Biden's decisions are nice for illegals and bad for everyone else who is forced into sharing public resources with people who aren't supposed to be in the country in the first place. Failing to maintain the hard line between men and women that has always existed is great for looney trans people and activists, but horrible for women. The Democratic party and Liberal Media exist to (try and) put the fear of bigotry into every previously marginalized group and then (hopefully) gain votes/viewers from this ragtag coalition by presenting themselves as their great protectors (as their Democratically run public schools continue to fail them).
But who put that fear there? Trump did. He gets on stage everyday and tell his supports that the country is garbage (but he can fix it, despite us still being the world leader by every metric), that immigrants are out to get you and take your job (but he'll fix that, despite record unemployment and dropping violent crime numbers).
I remember growing up in the 90s. Everyone was complaining about how it didn't matter who you voted for, because they are all the same. Now there's clear distinction between the parties and people still aren't happy.
Those same people when polled, back then, would have largely agreed with the statement, "don't you think the two parties should stop fighting and work together for the American people." In many respects, our problem is the American voter; they are dumb as a box of rocks.
@@erikblomqvist8325 is there? Superficially maybe but they are all wealthy elites who answer to oligarchs. The running of the system won't change maybe some of the culture war stuff will but the growing inequality is supported by both sides
The upper management might be pretty much the same. But I think the Democrats are crying all the way to the bank. I am suggesting they took a dive or three, and at street level, we have a "sane wing" rather larger than the GOP's. Those missing votes? Sane Republicans, Assholes Maybe, but not the looney-tunocracy now waiting to disassemble America, who were stranded without a party and feeling doomed either way, I assumed
As an outsider from Europe, I agree with Sam on this issue. From a distance, it seems as though the Democrats didn’t actually want to win-they made it remarkably easy for Trump. I could never bring myself to vote for him, but I do understand why so many people did. One issue that stands out is a tendency within the Democratic Party to adopt a patronizing approach toward minorities, which is something I’ve even noticed being discussed here in my own country. Similarly, the emphasis on “woke” issues has created a divide. Personally, I would always vote in favor of more rights for minorities, but Democrats need to recognize that this approach often gains little while alienating a substantial portion of the population, especially when it’s constantly pushed. As Sam points out, this has become one of the most frustrating aspects for many voters. The irony here is that, by enforcing this narrative on those who don’t relate to it, the Democrats have ended up achieving the opposite of their intentions. The result is an administration in the White House that feels emboldened to disregard these issues, leaving those minorities, whom Democrats intended to protect, even more vulnerable. Politics, in my view, requires finding a balance, but what we’re witnessing globally now is a divisive “black-and-white” approach, with no middle ground. Ultimately, I see this Democratic loss as one of their own making. Trump didn’t so much win as the Democrats lost. Also, if you think Trump is the worst that can happen, think again. He may be saying stupid shit, but he's quite 'normal' and moderate' in his views (if you dare to admit how far left the Dem's have gone on certain issues). I do think it is more show than real belief. But he can pave the way for others. More radical people. Like Owens, yes.
I agree with pretty much everything you wrote, except for your comment that Trump is "quite normal". You're dead wrong. He's an outlier to a great degree. It's incredible that you don't recognize that after everything you wrote. His supporters....many of them....don't recognize that he's pathological. And that is precisely why strongmen gain power in challenging times. Trump has been described in many ways by people who have had brushes with the man. And most of them...if they were consequential interactions....concluded that the man is anything but normal. All of his generals from his first administration have been severe in their assessments of Trump.
Many are inclined to downplay the significance of the legalistic coup attempt by framing the resulting damage as a consequence of policies rooted in the globalist establishment, a system perpetuated through the cyclical dominance of the Bush-Clinton dynasties. For many, the Obama administration epitomized the culmination of broken promises from this entrenched establishment. Their disillusionment has since been replaced by renewed hope in a figure who seems to elicit disdain from the very elites who have long held sway. Though this figure operates within elite circles, he appears to challenge the same power structures that perpetuate disdain for those deemed "deplorable." This growing discontent signals a palpable rejection of the status quo, as the marginalized populace, increasingly vocal, has had enough.
The biggest question you should ask yourself is why are there so many minorities in the West to begin with. No other people in the world have such an open door policy to their nations. Yet in the West, we've propagandized ourselves over decades to believe that if a person from anywhere on earth moves to a European country such as England that they're suddenly british as if the name wasn't made to describe the ethnic people of britan. If you were to move to the Philippines, you wouldn't magically become filipino. A nation is the makeup of its people who all share a common heritage, speak a common language, and share common values. You fundamentally change the makeup of a nation when you import millions of people within a few short years. These are people that more than not aren't coming from civilized developed nations and thus they often times have values which directly oppose ours. The only reason for example many from the middle east vote in alignment with the left is due to their pro immigration policies, but their social and religious ideology puts them further to the right of even someone like Trump. Much further. The left will drag us all down with them. When our democracy consists of 65% non native Europeans in all of our nations and they start to push their true values and ideology, you will wish you had listened to sense.
It was a million issues that caused it, but I think the mistake of analyzing it from Sam's perspective is that he and his viewers based in the US are different from most voters. Most voters are swayed by emotional messaging and all of the standard trappings of politics. Many voters don't even check the programs of the sides before the election or do any verification of the merits of the candidates and how compatible those candidates are with their own values. This especially applies when you vote for a person and not a party - it just becomes a popularity show. They just hear someone talk about an issue they are passionate about and go "yeah that's my guy" and that is the extent of the decision-making, even though this may harm them; or they have a vague feeling of "this country isn't going in the right direction" so they just vote to whoever is opposite the current powers. And the second thing is some people really align with Trump's values (or at least whatever values he tries to pander to). There really are people who would prefer to close borders to immigrants etc.
Yeah, many of us fear becoming like Europe. It isn't a racial thing...we want the vast majority of America to be multigen American. Perfectly reasonable.
@angelmartin7310 exactly. We want immigrants, regardless of race, who adopt and share our core values and to perpetuate them into the future once we are gone and how contribute to building the country.
None of those people would have voted for Trump. Democrats may do stupid things, but that doesn’t justify Trump for anyone who cares about actual outcomes.
This is incredible. Every person in the country and around the world should listen to this. I want to say “ignore everything else…” but won’t and just start here and listen to everything else with a critical ear.
It really isn't. There is plenty of diversity within the parties and being able to vote someone out is a more important power (which only exists in a two party system) than having more selective support for a party which more aligns with your views. In a multiparty system, ultimately voters do not pick who is the prime minister or which parties are in the governing coalition, that all happens behind closed doors and the only thing voters decide are how many people each party has in play for negotiations. Multiparty systems are just a distraction from the actual problems the US faces.
Exactly. There are too many right-wing grifters masquerading as centrist whilst only ever criticising the left and ignoring right wing lies and bigotry.
I agree with every point, Sam. I kept asking myself, “why would someone support someone so extreme in Trump?” And it’s simply because people want something extreme - people are sick of the standard politician using fancy language and then ultimately nothing happens for the working class. People want chaos and we are going to get it.
You still don't get it. We don't want chaos. We simply want a normal functioning society with a givwrmwnt that lifts all people up and protects our rights. Not fake rights like abortion. We don't want chaos at all. You're clueless.
They want change and any change is better than none. It's a message to the elites that they don't want ideological nonsense shoved down their throats any more
@@lukeh1903 how can you say Biden did nothing? You must be insanely privileged or sheltered if you think that, the child tax credit alone did more for struggling families than anything else in recent history
Love ya Sam. I really - and honorably, respect your clarity on these topics and how consistent you've been the WHOLE entire fing TIME! Hitch would be proud! Thank you, brother!
This was just what I needed to help me understand what the hell just happened. Why can't we have this caliber of intellect in our political candidates? Thanks, Sam.
We ended up with Trotskyist autocrat, Keir Starmer because of people like you - we're already seeing the authoritarian results. You just got lucky on this occasion.
Reluctantly? Someone forced u? If u can do what u don't want to do, of such importance...u r not someone to be trusted. Not mean to be rude...but please think why you squander your agency like this.
@@Randomest_Stories Reluctantly probably because she was a meh candidate but the alternative was much worse (the principle of the lesser of two evils). For example, I and many Armenians chose Pashinyan in the last election not because I'm a fan of him, but because the alternatives (the former corrupted goverment people) were much worse. Fortunately ~70% of voters chose him even though a lot of them didn't like him. But most Americans, unlike us, haven't fully felt a crap an corrupted government that's why the chose Trump in their ignorance.
@SurenEnfiajyan hmm. Problem with opinions is both sides feel they are right and the other wrong. Even cold facts can be spun and justified over imagined causes stemming from imagined scenarios. Humans! They can justify their own bias. It does not matter if the listener is convinced. The teller is. Sigh.
@@SurenEnfiajyan Also not from the US, but I am baffled how can anyone be insane enough to vote for a droid like candidate like Kamala. And it's not just that she sucks, but the fact that they are destroying the US from within for more than a decade is incredible to me. I don't even think Trump will necessarily good for Europe, but he is definitely way better for US, and it's not even close. Kamala and her ilk have hijacked the US from within, and should be revolted against at every opportunity.
So you dont want to be lied to unless it is by institutions that have put themselves in places of power or put into power by corporations,and the fact you think they are ever held accountable or apologise for their mistakes and outright lies is ridiculous.
His point is that we need to reform the institutions, not that they are perfect. He argues that they have more value when they are working correctly, and we should focus on that instead of putting our trust in bros who have done their own research. Try to keep up.
@@Lavabug hellow fellow bug :D What I like about radical centrism is the craziness you need to have to put two radical ideas face to face and come to a pragmatic solution. That is radical - not adhering to a single perspective; You have to work with what is reasonable on both sides.
@@scriptedBug It doesn't make you crazy, it just makes you lazy. There's nothing radical about mainstream parties, they both agree on fundamentals (do what corporations pay them billions in lobby money to do) and just split on surface level culture war issues to fill the airwaves with junk discourse and entertain voters with drivel like TRA and immigrants eating pets. A radical recognizes this is the status quo and is interested in a radical change. "Nothing fundamentally changes" (Biden's words to a room full of billionaire donors) when dem/rep parties flip the white house. Even BlackRock's CEO Larry Fink said it “doesn't matter” who won this election - they lobby both sides and always come out on top and are the ones actually making policy.
I disagree with Sam. Kamala and Tim did not engage in culture wars. Kamala didn't even talk about race/racism when she had the opportunity. They simply did not bend to the right trying to make these the key issues of this election.
The right amplified the voice of a loud minority of a minority and made it a huge problem for the whole nation. They own nearly all the young men internet spaces with their influencers.
Agreed. Sam isn't viewing this objectively, because he hates identity politics with a passion and is projecting that onto people who don't even pay enough attention to know who the vice president is at given point, much less what Biden said about trans girls being able to use girls' bathrooms at lowkey speech four years ago.
You and those like you are delusional or amnesiacs who expect the rest of us to be amnesiacs. Just before the 2020 election, Harris released a video where she expressed her love for "EQUITY" (equality of racial outcomes, i.e. identity politics) over equality. Biden signed an executive order as soon as he took office declaring that DEI was going to be a part of everything he did. He tried to pass a law that would racially discriminate against whites in terms of handing out Covid aid to restaurants until he realized the Supreme Court was going to put the kibosh on that. When knife-carrying Jacob Blake was shot by a white police officer for refusing to follow the officer's instructions, Kamala flew down to meet him and called him a hero. While the BLM riots were still occurring, Kamala let everyone know that she was raising bail money for these people and falsely claimed the country remained systemically racist. Her "proof" the whole country is racist? The exceedingly rare occasions when a black man resisting arrest gets shot for his troubles by some hothead cop, that is proof. The exceedingly rare occasions when any kind of force is used against a black man. Any group disparity she doesn't like is proof. Biden claimed the same and also expressed support of affirmative action and spoke out against the Supreme Court decision. Kamala sat next to him smiling the whole time. These 2 Woke ideologues did absolutely nothing to hold the line against illegal immigration and in fact, allowed 10 million to pour over the border and did nothing until the election was looming in their headlights. Harris herself was the epitome of a DEI candidate. Do you believe that the fact that Harris suddenly had the election-year good sense to shut the fk up about everything she either expressly believed in - equity, i.e. identity politics - or went along with in her first 3 years of office is something the rest of us were going to forget about? And by the rest of us, I mean myself: a Latino and lifelong Democrat who now won't vote for a Dem ever again unless they make it very clear they are anti-DEI (in other words the kind of Dem who doesn't exist -at least public - anymore). I didn't vote for Trump either but any Republican after him is sure to get my vote. I'll vote Republican for the first time and happily do so. But sure keep believing that DEI policies and affirmative action are great and really Dems just needed to message better on the economy.
I agree that Harris/Walz campaign did everything they could to stray away from identity politics, race baiting and inciting a cultural war the way Hillary’s campaign did. However the narrative was not enough, I feel like she should have been much more vocal about settling the differences between left and right wing Americans and address some of the economic concerns of the right more. I also feel like this is not her fault it’s more of the insanity of the left’s fault, I feel like Harris was afraid to say what she truly felt about trans activism other than “this is the law and im gonna do what the law tells me” because of the absolutely ridiculous cancel culture that may affect her campaign. In a way I blame the left on her losing, she did the best she could to remain neutral but it just was not enough
This is the exact kind of elitism that does not allow Sam to see any other point of view. You've illustrated that perfectly. The other 99% of us are dumb right? Heard that one before.
oh wow someone that speaks his actual fucking mind despite all the enemies he's going to make because he's not part of any one group or identity but the *CONTINUOUS PURSUIT* of the highest form of truth, integrity, and morality. 👏🏽
Sam, thanks, that was soothing. A superb 30 plus minutes of sensible analysis. You don't have to be completely correct, or cover all the bases. Thanks for helping me, us, breathe deeply in a time of madness and upheaval. I live in an urban environment in Canada. In a way it's worse here as one doesn't know what anyone really thinks or feels - it's disgustingly polite and over-ordered.
I am a moderate Dem whose head was exploding that my party was facilitating the trans nonsense. Being an RN, I am concerned for children being groomed to pick a gender. I am also concerned for the lax policing of our cities. We are a compassionate, selfless people, but often, with difficult issues such as homelessness, our compassion gets hijacked by the fringe activists. I voted for Kamala to save democracy, which is already on life support due to income inequality created by the GOP. A kleptocracy is the fitting demise to end stage capitalism. Thank you to Justice John Roberts (a dull man) and so many others. The cult is in charge now. Sadism is already straining to break free and get to work. Keeping my head down.
@@hamishstewart5188 Thanks. I think because we are a superpower, we have been bombarded by disinformation from foreign sources, in order to divide and weaken us. Your export, Rupert Murdoch, has been the worst, so I would thank you to take him back lol. Then we get the scourge of the antichrist Trump bombarding our media for a decade and infecting half of us with the contagion of his serious personality disorders. Basically, half the country had their brains hacked, and the other half thinks they are superior, which is also insufferable.
I think that we all need to recognize that Barron Trump is now a very seriously influential advisor to the president of the United States. So that’s comforting.
@@shak535 Shit take. An old president listening to younger people around him is not bad. And no one knows Barron Trump’s views since he has said zero in public.
The ideology is also wrong, though. Nothing he says has any real meaning. It's all vibes. He has no real plan for anything, and what plans he does have are contrary to the stated goal. This is classic populist demagoguery. For example, he says he knows you are suffering high prices and that he will "reduce them," but he has no plan to do that. HIs only stated economic policy is to deport millions of people who are cheap labor and slap massive tariffs on everything. Economists have repeatedly warned that both of these policies are highly inflationary and will raise prices. Thus, policy proposal contradicts policy goal. He also wants to cut taxes, which will create revenue short-falls, leading to cuts in programs that most people, when polled, say they actually like. Assuming he doens't just deficit spend like he did last time. Which also contracts the desired goal of reducing the national debt. If you read the GOP party platform and the project 2025 manual they put out, they wanna cut the FDA, the EPA, the SEC, etc. The SEC being defanged means business fraud will multiply. The FDA being unable to regulate means you are more likely to get poisoned by food. During Trump's first term in office, his meat-packing deregulation caused disease outbreaks. So no, the ideology of the agenda is also bad. He just says it in a way that is appealing.
@@s0515033 Yeah...sure. More insanity. I actually do know European politics well. Trump is not like Hungary's Orban or Russia's Putin. One is a career politician and the other a forme KGB agent. Trump is a real estate magnate. The attempt of the left to place him in the same pot is simply ridiculous. But I understand why the left do it. I see way more corruption in the dem party at the moment. Kamala had 1billion for the campaign and ended up still being 20 million in debt. Where did all that money go? Authoritarian populism my ass. Get out of your bubble. Talk to other people. Tough grass.
One small problem with that theory... The Democratic Party hasn't been running on trans issues. This is something that's discussed almost exclusively by the Republicans. They are the ones whose relentless messaging made this an issue. They have been the party of identity politics in this election.
This. It also ignores the phenomenon of voters choosing both Trump and progressives like AOC. What do they have in common? They speak directly and they represent change.
Exactly my thoughts. What in the world does the democratic party have to do with a trans boxer at the Paris Olympics? lol. What legislation or policy have they pushed on that subject? It's classic republican cultural gaslighting, and honestly very concerning someone like Sam even falls for it.
@@tonybs03 The reason is relentless right-wing propaganda stoking the fires of outrage. Think about it: how many people did you hear express outrage over trans activists going too far? Now think about how many radical trans activists you encountered organically (i.e. not via the intermediary of a right-wing commentator drawing attention to them). I'm willing to bet the former outnumber the latter by at least 10 to 1. This is a manufactured issue.
I'm looking forward to the moment when I can savor the schadenfreude when the inevitable happens, and Marco Rubio is fired, and will be neither a United States Senator, or Secretary of State.
It was not only identity politics but cancel culture nuisance, punish people before trial( media trial), shutting people down without hearing their views.
Yeah but she represented a group of people who would not stop talking about it. People aren't just voting for a person, they sometimes consider it voting for a whole party.
@@BFrydellno, she didn't. Ragebait Salon headlines from 2015 do not define 70 million Americans. Frankly you're dead from the neck up if you think anything relating to small town high school sports is an issue relevant to a presidential election.
@@BFrydell The right does what it does best, focuses on tiny minority of a minority and makes it a huge problem for the whole nation. The online presence of alt right media has grown alot and it has basically control of all young men spaces, gaming, fitness, self improvement etc. Perfect for feeding its bs around. If you tune out from social media and these spaces. You barely hear a peep about trans people. Majority of it, was coming from the right itself.
@@williamjameslehy1341Yeah, this is just a laughable take by Sam and him just projecting his own personal pet peeves onto the electorate at large. We know from exit polls that simply that people's cost of living has gone up, and this frankly is a far more plausible explanation.
@BFrydell put it another way, if a statistically significant portion of voters were influenced by an issue *THAT* niche and, to be quite blunt, stupid, it means they simply don't think Democrats will be better for them materially than Republicans. If it was a clear cut case of one party of universal healthcare and affordable housing, vs the other party of billionaire tax cuts and endless war, no one would go into the booth on Tuesday thinking about trans girls on volleyball teams in Midwestern suburbs.
I don't agree with Harris on anything. Conservative Christian, isolationist, pro Palastinian, anti covid mandates, pro gun, pro Trump.... Genuinely like listening to Sam though and rarely miss an episode.
Yes. He's spent a big portion of his career critizing people for existing in filter bubbles, and is oblivious to his own. He could be a apolitical juggernaut, but he's yet to discard his own god.
“Identity politics is dead and we have to bury it” - Sam Harris.
Amen, Sam.
It's alive and well on the left.
I don't remember Harris engaging in identity politics during her campaign, did she?
Sam is too smart to know that the reason trump won wasn't due to identity politics but economic politics. When inflation got as bad as it did in 2022-2023 not even Obama himself would have won reelection. This leads me to believe Sam is being disingenuous on purpose, but for what reason
It sure as fuck wouldn't have been buried had Kamala won. She'd have simply doubled down on it the way the MSM is right now, and followed through on making loans to "oppressed minorities" and continuing to treat white Americans like the devil.
Amen indeed
Persian woman here, we are forced to wear hijab, this is a total disregard of our basic human rights.
But you can listen to Sam Harris?
@@dermotmeuchner2416 Really makes you think.
@@dermotmeuchner2416 fortunately, the internet works in Iran thanks to VPNs
@@dermotmeuchner2416 Why couldn't she?
Depends where you live.
Imagine Sam using the f word on his meditation app, too. "Close your f***ing eyes. Focus on your f***ing visual field."
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Okayyy. Take your f’ing seat.
I hope he posts something like that for April Fools Day
What the fuck!
Sam doesn't need the f word. 😏
To anyone who's not convinced that Sam is indeed frustrated about the results of the elections:
He said "f*cking" twice in 40 minutes...
Because he is an angry tender man. Listen to him tell us who we are. So daft
Time to re-visit the Canon, Sam.
Frustrated may not be the right word. Even a few days before the election he had a podcast suggesting the outcome may go this direction.
To most people comparing Trump to almost anyone is an obvious choice. Trump has no values nor does he seem to care for anyone. That's just really odd. Yet.. he won.
Unhappy with the extreme left makes sense. Unhappy with social media and the weirdness it is heading towards. And unhappy with the fact that what were once Republicans has now become a mass of folks that approve of a style of personality rather than intelligence, values, and competence.
Someone needs to learn to count. (it was way more than twice)
@@BabudroSun If you want to get all technical and correct random people on UA-cam, then let me do the same to you... Sam did say it twice. You are, technically speaking, incorrect.
I was waiting for this since the day of election.
Me too.
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This is, hands down, one of the best summaries of our current state and how the Democratic party and progressive Left can move forward. Sam Harris has done us all a great service memorializing it. My hope is political leaders take his points to heart...
If the democrats take some of Sam's messages to heart they will never win again.
I don't think that Sam has thought this through. If he had, he would realize that he does not want the alternative to the type of democratic party he describes. He simply wants the democrats to be republican light. The republican light strategy was tried in 2016, and again this time. It did not work either time. All of this culture war BS is just a distraction. It is the republicans who want to talk about it most.
About the democrats running too far left, consider that Bernie Sanders ran far, FAR to the left of any of the last democratic candidates. He probably would have won too. FDR was one of the most popular presidents ever, and he was practically a Marxist. His radical left Marxist policies included 99% taxes on the ultra rich, huge redistribution of wealth, and massive public employment programs. This radical Marxist agenda paved the way for the rise of the American middle class and a golden age of American economic growth and business. An empowered proletariat has more money, including more money to buy all of the things who's demand made our economy hum like never before in the decades after the war.
Such policies today could make the democrats very popular, but not with the big donors and not with Wall Street. I don’t think Sam would like this agenda either, so perhaps he should not complain about a democratic party mired in “woke” culture war BS.....he would not like the real alternative.
It was such as perfect explanation.
Finally I found a podcast where it is ok to be left, but also seriously critize the far left. Thank you for saying out loud what has been going through my mind in the last years. I literally agree with everything you say.
Literally agree with everything you say. Isn't that the definition of a cult
Sam supports the vaccine mandate. Let that sink in
I'm trans and I agree. However, I take issue with some of the trans blame. Let me preface this with, this is a soft critique and I'm not seething in ideological rage.. Just trying to add a little nuance to the topic.
Can we note that the Trump campaign grossly misrepresented the trans topic, spending $215 million on ads to inflame the topic, make bombastic claims that nine year olds are given SRS or we want to overrun sports? He has inflated the issue and promoted discrimination. There was an effort by his campaign to represent all of us as the radical minority. There was much much more focus on transgender topics from the right than the left during this election. Topics that were exclusively cast in a negative, threatening or controversial light. The reality is, most of us do not want the attention or drama. Social transitioning is difficult and painful and wrought with rejection and judgement, but it is also an incredible experience of self-realization, self-love, independence, unique perspective on the world, connection, community, feeling genuine, an invigoration of life etc. Nonetheless, many of us are perceived with the presumption that we were captured by the cultural contagion and that it's a lifestyle CHOICE.
Acknowledging child dysphoria is a nuanced and difficult topic, here's my partial anecdote. I grew up with dysphoria and internalized the transphobia present in entertainment media, my family and the public, attempting suicide at eight years old. I continued to suffer from suicidal ideation, disassociation, self-loathing and depression into early adulthood until I stopped treating transitioning like it was a choice.. That realization has been profoundly impactful on my well-being, life and pursuit of happiness while diminishing my liberty and societal acceptance.
Transitioning after puberty is completely different as our bodies, face and muscle-skeletal system develop to our primary sex hormone. Effects that persist throughout our adulthood and can only be partially remedied with hormonal therapy and surgery. Effects that erode our ability to assimilate or diminish our self-perception. With that being said, I would never encourage a child to contemplate their gender if there's not a pre-existing issue. In a perfect world that existed in a vacuum, we'd simply listen to our kids instead of imposing our own confusion. Its a difficult gap to bridge. Families and environments are composed of countless variables. Mine continually reinforced the idea that trans and homosexuals were "disgusting," amongst other things. Kids growing up in small town Texas are going to have a completely different perspective on the topic than those in Portland, Oregon. However, some are open minded and are willing to listen to their children. I'm not sure how you reconcile those two and provide the infrastructure for the former scenario without confusing kids at large. I think we'd all do less harm by not forcing families to comply. Instead, spread the positive message. Build trust in the science, explain how to differentiate trend v. psychology, mitigate psychologist bias etc. Be there for those who do experience it. Express our life experiences in a way that promotes compassion and understanding rather than reinforcing a stigmatization.
I'm also conflicted about the cultural contagion topic. There are divisions in transgender spaces of dysphorics and trenders. That trenders are propagandistic fuel to diminish our place in society. That they reinforce stigmatization by presenting transitioning as a flippant choice. That they've clumsily stepped all over the basic rights, protections, acceptance and liberties we've fought for. They eagerly expect benefits we worked so hard to get from experiencing hardships that deeply hurt most of us and now demand a seat at the table of how we are represented. However, I can't help but question, what's so bad about it being a lifestyle choice so long as it doesn't infringe on others? I don't think they're guilty of what all the right says aside from some isolated events. I don't think they're peeping on women and children in the bathroom, transitioning for personal gain, enter women's prisons or to dominate sports. Most aren't trying to convert kids.. Some are guilty of all of those things, but there are creeps, crazies and weirdos in every group.. I'm not generalizing all right wing voters as neo-nazis even though that faction generally supports Trump. Home issues are one thing, but societal rights, liberties, protections and opportunities seem somewhat easy to address without inciting bigotry.
Bottomline is, yes, left radicals have grossly overstepped and are overly received to our detriment, however, the right has inflated the issues beyond recognition. Sam did a good job of softening it, but generally has accepted a bad-faith argument in transgender care. I'm trying not to be pedantic, but I think it's a worthwhile observation. I do appreciate his specifying of "trans activist," instead of simply "transgenders." It would have been nice if we were presented in a similar fashion as latin americans who don't support being spoken for by radicals who try to enforce "latin-x." Please differentiate radicals and bad actors from the rest of us. Thank you for acknowledging some of our struggles and some of the nuances within transgender care. I think there's some room for positivity and humanization in the discussion at large.
Sorry to burst your bubble but Sam harris showed his true colors during covid lockdowns and vaccine mandates and is genuinley blinded by Trump derangment syndrome. Youll grow tired of him soon enough I basically promise that.
Sorry but leftist don't need even more leftist willing to criticize the left when the right is completely incapable of taking any measurable stance against Trumpism. Sam is just preaching to the converted
This deserves more views
I remember Sam's episode in 2016 after the election. 8 years later here we are again.
"The Most Powerful Clown." I remember what I was doing as I listened to it. Lol
He didn’t have a popular vote mandate 8 years ago. Nothing can stop him.
And the elitist circle jerk continues. Lessons weren't learned in 2016 and I doubt they will be learned in 2024 that's sort of the problem with our arrogant out of touch elite class. History is filled with this story playing out in America today.
Holy shit, I missed that!
Must go back and find!! 🙏🏼
Me too! I remember listening to that and finding some solace at the time. What a world, time flies.
Ive been saying this for years. Try walking into a traditional Latino household and talking to them about “systems of patriarchy” and see how far that gets you
What would happen?
@@Zurealz they'll give you a dirty sanchez
Funny how all those Latino men are afraid of a woman president while their mothers completely dominate their lives. Maybe Alex P Keaton syndrome
You get a chancla thrown at your head
You are the problem.
“Many were increasingly of the opinion that they’d all made a big mistake in coming down from the trees in the first place. And some said that even the trees had been a bad move, and that no one should ever have left the oceans.”
― Douglas Adams
Well said.
Uncle Ted was right :D
Great reference, maybe a comet will hit the earth before America turn total fascism.
Ooh, well played!
There is one wrong assumption being made here: it is lot that all those that voted for Trump ignored his flaws or are unaware of them. They simply disliked the postmodernist left more.
Right! Can't understand how Sam doesn't see this.
If they were so "aware" of Trump's flaws they sure are silent about it.
What I find unconvincing about your argument is that I gave many Trump supporters the opportunity to acknowledge serious flaws about Trump but still conclude that he is the lesser of two evils to them. These Trump supporters refuse to acknowledge any serious flaws. In fact, they would view his flaws as features not bugs.
@@jasonhead4280 They don't care and for good reason, you people are delusional.
@@jasonhead4280 Yep. We love everything about the whole Trump phenomenon. Especially now that he's been reelected with an inarguable MANDATE to change the course of this country. Every single thing the Dems have done to "stop Trump" added to the reasons we needed to stop THEM. They shat on every word of our Constitution and wiped their asses with the Bill of Rights. They weaponized the judicial system against a GAME SHOW HOST just bc they truly couldn't defend their own political stances. Nobody deserves the victory of Trump and this mandate more than every single Democrat
“Democrats we won’t police the streets, but we’ll police your language” Bingo!
Sam got this one a bit wrong. Per capita, crime is now and has generally always been higher in Republican and conservative states and counties. Even in California the per capita crime and violence trends higher in its most Republican and conservative counties and cities.
Why are you so sensitive about your "language"?
crime is down. Just another trump talking point
Private companies policing your language is NOT the government & crime is DOWN under the Biden administration. Get a clue.
Only if it’s racism. Then yes people will complain.
Bernie Sanders had a great line in his recent conversation with Lex on his pod. What issues are neither side talking about? The influence of money in politics, universal healthcare, and raising the minimum wage. These should be issues the democratic party is addressing, and the Harris campaign was way to corporatist to connect to real problems that the current party has no plans to address.
“Black teenage unemployment in the United States was roughly equal to white teenage unemployment until the minimum wage was raised. It is no accident that the rate of black teenage unemployment is much higher than white teenage unemployment. The effects are discriminatory, even though it’s not intended.” -Milton Friedman
My problem with universal healthcare is that the people advocating for it want it to be unconditional. I don't think it's fair to force a person who's disciplined enough to maintain a healthy lifestyle to fork over part of their earnings to pay for individuals who CHOOSE to mutate themselves into The People of Walmart.
Bernie needs to stop trying to sell government-only monopolized healthcare as universal healthcare. Providing baseline healthcare that everyone can access is a good idea that's actually popular. Banning any privatized healthcare is immoral and something that most people will never vote for.
@@george_cantstandya...like every other comment section.
@@mattturner5429Many many people who contract or have serious illness or other serious medical conditions have them through no fault of their own, in a myriad of ways. You sound like ex-Alabama senator Mo Brooks.
It's always hilarious when Sam swears because he saves them up for the perfect moments 😂
Candace Owens 😁
yup this one was simply perfect
Sam knows the art of swearing. He uses it rarely for effect.
Like all jealous beta males should.
Sam is a con
"The dumbing down of American is most evident in the slow decay of substantive content in the enormously influential media, the 30 second sound bites (now down to 10 seconds or less), lowest common denominator programming, credulous presentations on pseudoscience and superstition, but especially a kind of celebration of ignorance" --Carl Sagan
To be fair Americans have been celebrating ignorance for a long time. The worst think you could ever be accused of at school was being smart.
When so called Cable "News" networks take sides and screw their coverage towards their candidate, you know we are lost.
I was wondering how long it would take for someone to use this quote.
@@mikef2813 Because it makes so much fucking sense.
Carl Sagan certainly saw how it would all pan out . Shame it’s fallen on deaf ears.
Every major historical event i go through gets summarized and evaluted most clearly by Sam.
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Remember when Ben Affleck broke him?
@@GeneTicklesBroke him lol?
When Ben Affleck made a joke of himself on Bill Maher?
@@GeneTickles what makes you say that ben came out ahead in that interaction? ben was bright red in the face :/
"If it sounds like I'm blaming far left activists and everyone who bent the knee to them. I am."
"You're gonna get President Candace Fucking Owens one day.." i can't decide if this is more hilariously accurate or debilitatingly terrifying.
It's both
based
no way! she is deeply ignorant of history and rationale
It was hilarious! It may also be true!
I mean.....
She's better than Karmello.
Thank you for saying what needs to be said...best conversation about the election I have heard❤
Been waiting for Sam's take.
Gee, I wonder what it'll be....
@treborkroy5280 go listen to Alex Jones
Same here
The first 2/3 is tolerable, even perceptive Sam Harris. The last 3rd is total selective memory, TDS nonsense.
@@stopthephilosophicalzombie9017 lonce you mention "TDS" your opinion is irrelevant
Thanks for not wavering in your convictions Sam, this episode gives me hope that there still are voices of clarity out there
Sam is a study in terminal Trump Derangement Syndrome. And I'm lovin' it 😂
Ya Sam lives in an echo chamber and he clearly is so disconnected from the average American who voted for trump 2/1 in most places and 50/50 everywhere else so not to mention being extremely wrong about Covid and lockdowns/vaccines, he’s been so far from right political that only ppl in an echo chamber and media propaganda think this way.
As always Sam; a voice of reason in a time of madness.
Thank you Sam. For remaining steadfast and speaking out. A lot of people are adapting to a new normal and rationalizing what is happening. I know you have gotten a lot of pushback. But having you as a steady voice has been important for many of us.
*Thank you for everything Sam*
I’m certain the “Kamala is for they/them" commercials were a big part of Trump winning
It was mostly just the perception of the economy and the fact that the GOP tapped into people not giving a shit about reality or statistical data. As long as you tell people you care, affirm their position, and promise the world, you win. Even if it is all fake. We now live in the idiocracy and Trump is president Commacho promising to cut the price of car insurance by 50%. Doesn't matter if inflation is down, unemployment is down, growth is up, etc. If you can sell a lie and scapegoat problems, you win.
It was just another reason on the enormous pile.
@@Uppernorwood976
I had friends in swing states tell me they thought the commercial was a parody or SNL skit, the notion of supporting that was so absurd.
@@Uppernorwood976
"There is not a thing that comes to mind." is near the top of that mountain, too.
@@Uppernorwood976right next to the neutron star of reasons not to vote for Trump.
Hey, Sam harris, it's about time for a appearance on the Joe Rogan Experience.
He won’t go on. No way!
he can't go on there anymore because he defend the craziness the left wing now promotes. Thats why Harris and no one on left will talk to people
Amazing that all these people Sam once respected, associated with and admired are now untouchables in his eyes. Sam, what are the odds they're ALL wrong?
LMAO for real. Sam's dug himself way too big of a hole.
@@markmoretti9122 Please, you don't get to play the numbers game when the people you're propping up routinely spout heterodox drivel.
Top 5 pods on Earth. I NEVER miss an episode. Thanks Sam!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I am an American who has just spent three years living in Latin America. Literally *every single person* I have heard use the term "Latinx" was a white American.
You hit the nail on the head Sam - I agree with the analysis on every issue here. In the absence of the great Christopher Hitchens, we’re lucky to have commentators like you who cut through the confusion and bring clarity to the seemingly complex current landscape.
It's almost a sacrilege (pun intended) to compare Sam with the great Hitch. They are in very different leagues.
@ Well they were both members of the Four Horsemen, so maybe not that far apart?
@@leetaylor27 Definitely far apart when it came to racist pseudoscience and free speech
@@leetaylor27 Not every husky in a sleigh team has the same physical and mental qualities. And not every bird is an eagle.
@@petermuller6359 I didn’t say they were the same.
"The most annoying thing in the f*cking galaxy..."
_Bingo._ Thanks, Sam.
Sam has lost his marbles. Trump won because inflation was really really bad between 2022- early 2024. It's hard to win reelection when the cost of living increased as fast and as high as it did.
Precisely. Delusional generation.
Yes!
@@soberanisfam1323 inflation was just over 2% this year, brain trust. And 100% of the economic pain Americans have been suffering is the result of Trump’s presidency and policies. 100%. You probably blame FDR for the Great Depression as well😏
@@shacktime so what was inflation in 2022 and 2023? You do know that inflation is cumulative right? Did you get a 10 or 20 or 30 percent raise between 2022-2024? Most Americans didn’t which is why the cost of living went up substantially for those Americans in those 3 years. FOH with your disingenuous 2%.
I'm a liberal and have never voted for a Republican presidential candidate (though I voted for my moderate Republican senator Arlen Spector before he was replaced by "tea party" radical Pat Toomey). I've been voting for 44yrs and I'm a "person of color."
Let me tell you. Sam is 100% correct. Denying that the Left hasn't helped to put us in this terrible position as a nation is pure, unmitigated, cope.
So many of my fellow liberals have been saying the same thing for years... only to be called transphobic, islamaphobic, or some other, made up just yesterday, bullshit, merely for wanting to discuss this stuff reasonably.
Enough is enough.
I'm a Liberal myself and if you've truly been voting for the past 44 years, what do you make of Liberals, progressives and dems being lumped into one party over the last 20 years or so?
I've been voting since the early 80's and i have more in common with the Republican party today than i do with the Democrat party. If you've truly been a Liberal all these years, you should be against big government and big business, you should be 1000% in favor of free speech and 2nd amendment rights. These are all Liberal values and things Dems such at.
There also seems to be little accountability for the fact that Harris was a horrific candidate. How many delegates did she win in 2020, ZERO!? In 2020 she ran as a very progressive candidate and just 4 short years later she 180'd on everything she ran on in 2020 pretending to be a more moderate middle of the road Dem. Of course people are allowed to change their minds but on EVERYTHING!? And to 180 on it all!? Did she truly even have stances on anything or was she just saying whatever in an attempt to grab power?
Why is Trump such a bad candidate? Can you give me actual reasons other than BS headline buzz words and phrases? "Jan 6", "convicted felon", "racist", "homophobe", ext...
@jacoblee5796 Sorry man, that he is a 34x convicted felon, a civilly adjudicated rapist, has been convicted of fraud and successfully sued because of it, and he stoled from a children's cancer charity makes him a scumbag.
That your moral compass is so goddamned broken that you find his to be acceptable as a president, let alone as a man, is pathetic and speaks volumes about you as a person.
@@hewhomustnotbenamed9276Buddy if you believe Trump is a 34 count convicted felon you’re drinking way too much kool-aid. Even Sam Harris has stated that was total BS and a shame court case.
I suppose you think Kobe Bryant is a grapist as well then? A long with thousands of other rich powerful men that have settled civil cases?
You may have me on the children’s charity, I haven’t heard that one before. But these other two just make you look ignorant.
An all those true classical liberals voted for Trump. Tulsi is a classical liberal, so is RFK, Rogan, Rubin.... Whether you like it or not, Trump represents those classical liberal values. But people are blinded by their TDS
@@greg.ocallaghan Really? Cutting taxes for the rich, killing workers unions, de-regulation to the point that corporations can become a monopoly to raise price to however they want is classical liberalism? That's what happen when you voted for Trump and Elon Musk, but because you are so focused on the cultural war you missed the big picture.
Just for reference: FDR raised massive taxes on the rich and created Medicare and Social Security. Theodore Roosevelt used his government muscle to take down the monopolies and the oil barons to protect consumers, and also created national parks to conserve America's nature. If you want classical, those guys are both classical liberal and conservative for you. There has to be a balance.
Conclusion: Trump and modern GOP is NOT your friend. They conned you guys big time.
Let’s look on the bright side-there is at least one thing Democrats and Republicans have in common: the conclusion that Americans got the president they deserve.
I can surely say that America is at large "Capitalist re.tard.dation
Yeah that closed border and energy independence is gonna suck. Not getting bent over on our foreign policy left and right sounds terrible too.
No one deserves Harris or Biden.
@@rgold9329energy independence… hahahahah!
I’m more concerned about Trump screwing over our economy with tariffs. He has no idea how to fix the economy.
I truly believe people vote for the opposing party if they feel their lives are doing worse. It doesn't matter who's at "fault," if the matters are in the control of politicians or not, or what the culture war is doing. If people feel as though their lives are better, they vote for the incumbent party. If they feel as though their lives are worse, then vote for the opposition. It's not really any more complicated than that, in my opinion.
Yep
I think a great deal of people probably vote this way
exactly. Sam's issue is mistaking what people think they're voting for or against with what they're actually voting for or against. Nobody gives a flying fuck about trans rights or trans issues if their lives are getting better, if they're earning more money than they did before and they can afford a better life than they did before, and they have better healthcare, less crime, and so on.
But if all of those things are getting worse for them, they'll find everything and anything to blame it on, and the right will usually help them with that.
I've been screaming this to anyone who'll listen since last Wed. I think your description hits the bullseye for "swing voters," i.e. the 3-6% who vote but can truly go either way any given election. Most of these people are utterly clueless about policy and even superficial politics. Many of them would literally vote for Hitler reincarnate in order to punish the incumbent if they felt (correctly, or due to numerical illiteracy as in the case of wages outpacing inflation) their personal financial situation was marginally worse than 4 years ago. Note that I didn't say "if they felt strongly that Hitler had a better economic platform" -- they don't even make it that far in their rationale. It's simply a knee-jerk reaction against the incumbent with no further thought, for the most part.
It's the economy stupid. That Slogan will always work. Bu Identity politics absolutely mattered and still does.
I agree Sam. I had to go through DEI about 6 times with an organization I recently retired from and it was so annoying. Sorry not sorry, but I will continue to use the word homeless person.
I am not from the US, how else would you refer to a homeless person?
Unhoused. Which, from a European perspective… is actually quite accurate. We don‘t blame people who are in the worst spot possible and actually would feel ashamed to leave people unhoused. But that‘s just us silly Europeans who don‘t gloat over the poor.
@@BleakVision"homeless" is equally accurate -- it's "a person without a home"
@@BleakVision so the difference is that being unhoused is a passive state in which the onus lies on others to provide housing? As opposed to homeless which makes no implied reference to the prospective source of shelter?
@@jacqdanielesI called it people living in the elements because that's what is actually happening.
Appreciate you, Sam. For as many who gloat at the Democratic Party’s degradation, many former members morn. Hope your message gets through.
The fact that you don't believe something, doesn't mean necessarily it is a lie. You put too much trust in your own, not always well-founded understanding of things.
But.. no example of it? That's a claim without an example. Why would you just state something without at least one example of what you said?
“The fact that we have had to think about this man continuously for over a decade is just an incredible piece of bad luck”. Amen.
Edit: this sure is a Sam Harris crowd, both for and against.
It's not a piece of bad luck, it's a direct result of how they responded to him.
@ yeah, these things are not mutually exclusive.
I have my choice moving forward, turning anything off with his face/voice on. Control the controllable. Hope we still have our democracy after 4 years, feel bad for people working in the field has to deal with him. What’s a curse.
No, no one thinks about this man unless u have an ego or narcissism, I care and most ppl I know care about the policies and wat he can do for my family and bank account! I could care less if he’s an asshole or even a racist which he isn’t but I wouldn’t care if he made the lives of Americans better. Which he does over a Biden/Harris administration.
@@freedomlife3623 God speed, fine Warrior
Respect to sam, both sides hate him
Correction the right and far left hate him. This is part of the issue, the small far left doesn't represent the entire democratic party.
Indeed 😂❤
Imagine if Hitchens we’re alive today 😅
@michael-yf8js well it doesn't matter if its Hitchens or Sam or Twain even, those who are speakers of truth are despised by both sides
@@ganeshnayak4217 Indeed.
Much love Sam, been listening intently since 2013. ❤
President Candice Owens. Don’t scare me like that Sam. 😂
You know It's gonna happen. The first female president of the United States. 😶
You can't make any of this shit up. It's like we're living in a misanthropic scifi novel.
Would she be worse than Donald Trump?
@@voidlover-eu1og Dont make me defend the man. Please don't.
@@xeroeddie She's even more racist than Trump.... easy win.
"All this access to information is making us dumber" Truer words were never spoken. I think about this a lot.
Sam is a PERFECT example.
It’s most decidedly not the access to information making us dumber, it’s the cultural Marxism which insists on teaching young people that critical examination of itself is counter revolutionary and and immoral act in itself-simply a manifestation of your oppressor or privileged status.
This is not new.
It’s the unwillingness to listen to viewpoints critical to our own or to hold open debate which is making “us” dumber. You ever see leftists try and defend critical inquiry into their positions? It’s not just “like” the first time they’ve ever heard them, it possibly IS.
Conservatives are forced to sharpen and defend their ideas in college because they are constantly attacked-and I don’t just mean the ideas, I mean the people who dare to hold or speak them. And by “conservative” ideas, I mean all those liberal and libertarian positions which the left has othered as well. It’s how the middle became the right. Simply by standing still and cleaving to some pretty uncontroversial and plain sense principles.
I stopped listening to Sam Harris when he started making appeals to authority like that.
Only for dumb people that are not good at parsing info
@@charlesvan13authority in knowledge is important for a reason. Whenever you have a serious problem, think of whether you want the expert or the podcaster to solve it
Long time Dem here. My take is that our party, has for too long, tried to be 'nice' to everyone. We avoid the white, working class majority issues and focus on helping the marginal. Yes, I agree that being a nice human being is important but you can not ignore what is putting fear into everyday Americans.
That's not being nice. It's called pandering.
You can become so diplomatic that you are of no use.
Long time Dem here as well and I completely disagree with your assertion that the party, for far too long, has tried to be nice to "everyone". Far from it. You frame the party's enormous flaws as a positive, but it's demonstrably not true. Affirmative action policies are nice to blacks (and Latinos) who can't otherwise cut it because public schools in blue cities have failed to do their jobs and not nice to whites and Asians. DEI policies are nice for the blacks (and Latinos) who can't otherwise cut it because public schools in blue cities have failed them, but horrible for everyone who cares about meritocracy, maintaining high standards, and free speech. Immigration policies like Democratic sanctuary cities and Biden's decisions are nice for illegals and bad for everyone else who is forced into sharing public resources with people who aren't supposed to be in the country in the first place. Failing to maintain the hard line between men and women that has always existed is great for looney trans people and activists, but horrible for women. The Democratic party and Liberal Media exist to (try and) put the fear of bigotry into every previously marginalized group and then (hopefully) gain votes/viewers from this ragtag coalition by presenting themselves as their great protectors (as their Democratically run public schools continue to fail them).
But who put that fear there? Trump did. He gets on stage everyday and tell his supports that the country is garbage (but he can fix it, despite us still being the world leader by every metric), that immigrants are out to get you and take your job (but he'll fix that, despite record unemployment and dropping violent crime numbers).
@@indyatmn420 Yeah. You really sound like a long time dem.
Sam so much of this is exactly what I feel. Thank you for putting it into words and please let’s talk about what can do
I remember growing up in the 90s. Everyone was complaining about how it didn't matter who you voted for, because they are all the same. Now there's clear distinction between the parties and people still aren't happy.
Those same people when polled, back then, would have largely agreed with the statement, "don't you think the two parties should stop fighting and work together for the American people."
In many respects, our problem is the American voter; they are dumb as a box of rocks.
The left doesn't like to hear truth. It hurts their feelings.
@@erikblomqvist8325 is there? Superficially maybe but they are all wealthy elites who answer to oligarchs. The running of the system won't change maybe some of the culture war stuff will but the growing inequality is supported by both sides
The upper management might be pretty much the same. But I think the Democrats are crying all the way to the bank. I am suggesting they took a dive or three, and at street level, we have a "sane wing" rather larger than the GOP's. Those missing votes? Sane Republicans, Assholes Maybe, but not the looney-tunocracy now waiting to disassemble America, who were stranded without a party and feeling doomed either way, I assumed
SOLUTION? I thought not.
Finally…. Been checking UA-cam everyday for Sam’s take on this
RIGHT?!!
lol me too
As an outsider from Europe, I agree with Sam on this issue. From a distance, it seems as though the Democrats didn’t actually want to win-they made it remarkably easy for Trump. I could never bring myself to vote for him, but I do understand why so many people did.
One issue that stands out is a tendency within the Democratic Party to adopt a patronizing approach toward minorities, which is something I’ve even noticed being discussed here in my own country. Similarly, the emphasis on “woke” issues has created a divide. Personally, I would always vote in favor of more rights for minorities, but Democrats need to recognize that this approach often gains little while alienating a substantial portion of the population, especially when it’s constantly pushed. As Sam points out, this has become one of the most frustrating aspects for many voters.
The irony here is that, by enforcing this narrative on those who don’t relate to it, the Democrats have ended up achieving the opposite of their intentions. The result is an administration in the White House that feels emboldened to disregard these issues, leaving those minorities, whom Democrats intended to protect, even more vulnerable.
Politics, in my view, requires finding a balance, but what we’re witnessing globally now is a divisive “black-and-white” approach, with no middle ground. Ultimately, I see this Democratic loss as one of their own making. Trump didn’t so much win as the Democrats lost.
Also, if you think Trump is the worst that can happen, think again. He may be saying stupid shit, but he's quite 'normal' and moderate' in his views (if you dare to admit how far left the Dem's have gone on certain issues). I do think it is more show than real belief. But he can pave the way for others. More radical people. Like Owens, yes.
I agree with pretty much everything you wrote, except for your comment that Trump is "quite normal". You're dead wrong. He's an outlier to a great degree. It's incredible that you don't recognize that after everything you wrote. His supporters....many of them....don't recognize that he's pathological. And that is precisely why strongmen gain power in challenging times. Trump has been described in many ways by people who have had brushes with the man. And most of them...if they were consequential interactions....concluded that the man is anything but normal. All of his generals from his first administration have been severe in their assessments of Trump.
You just wrote an essay on a UA-cam video on a Wednesday… get a job.
Many are inclined to downplay the significance of the legalistic coup attempt by framing the resulting damage as a consequence of policies rooted in the globalist establishment, a system perpetuated through the cyclical dominance of the Bush-Clinton dynasties. For many, the Obama administration epitomized the culmination of broken promises from this entrenched establishment. Their disillusionment has since been replaced by renewed hope in a figure who seems to elicit disdain from the very elites who have long held sway. Though this figure operates within elite circles, he appears to challenge the same power structures that perpetuate disdain for those deemed "deplorable." This growing discontent signals a palpable rejection of the status quo, as the marginalized populace, increasingly vocal, has had enough.
The biggest question you should ask yourself is why are there so many minorities in the West to begin with. No other people in the world have such an open door policy to their nations. Yet in the West, we've propagandized ourselves over decades to believe that if a person from anywhere on earth moves to a European country such as England that they're suddenly british as if the name wasn't made to describe the ethnic people of britan. If you were to move to the Philippines, you wouldn't magically become filipino. A nation is the makeup of its people who all share a common heritage, speak a common language, and share common values. You fundamentally change the makeup of a nation when you import millions of people within a few short years. These are people that more than not aren't coming from civilized developed nations and thus they often times have values which directly oppose ours. The only reason for example many from the middle east vote in alignment with the left is due to their pro immigration policies, but their social and religious ideology puts them further to the right of even someone like Trump. Much further. The left will drag us all down with them. When our democracy consists of 65% non native Europeans in all of our nations and they start to push their true values and ideology, you will wish you had listened to sense.
More rights for minorities? What do you mean? Based on the color of ones skin you should be awarded extra rights? Are you dense?
Thank you Sam, well said. I have no idea what to expect anymore… absolutely exhausted!
Thank you Sam. Your voice is needed now more than ever.
Sam's logic and soothing delivery is a glowing sword that cuts through a fog of nonsense showing you the path
Reddit tier cringe
@@NotQuiteFirst Yeah, wow, that was one of the most horrid sentences I've ever read.
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I've been refreshing your channel for the last few days and finally we got it! :D
Thank you Sam Harris for your integrity and insight.
It was a million issues that caused it, but I think the mistake of analyzing it from Sam's perspective is that he and his viewers based in the US are different from most voters. Most voters are swayed by emotional messaging and all of the standard trappings of politics. Many voters don't even check the programs of the sides before the election or do any verification of the merits of the candidates and how compatible those candidates are with their own values. This especially applies when you vote for a person and not a party - it just becomes a popularity show. They just hear someone talk about an issue they are passionate about and go "yeah that's my guy" and that is the extent of the decision-making, even though this may harm them; or they have a vague feeling of "this country isn't going in the right direction" so they just vote to whoever is opposite the current powers.
And the second thing is some people really align with Trump's values (or at least whatever values he tries to pander to). There really are people who would prefer to close borders to immigrants etc.
Yeah, many of us fear becoming like Europe. It isn't a racial thing...we want the vast majority of America to be multigen American. Perfectly reasonable.
Sam: People think their pet issue is the cause due to their bias.
Also Sam: (immediately talks about his pet issues)
@@angelmartin7310None of you Americans know what „Europe“ is actually like.
@angelmartin7310 exactly. We want immigrants, regardless of race, who adopt and share our core values and to perpetuate them into the future once we are gone and how contribute to building the country.
@@hnc-mitte4800 We know enough to know we don't want to meet the same fate. It's hard enough seeing it happen to my ancestral homelands.
I wish George Carlin and Bill Hicks were still here at moments like this.
Patrice for me
@@Legal_Sweetie333 Robin Williams for me
Carlin already summed up the establishment perfectly. The Democratic Party exemplify Carlin's last special.
And Christopher hitchens.
None of those people would have voted for Trump. Democrats may do stupid things, but that doesn’t justify Trump for anyone who cares about actual outcomes.
Clicked so fast I almost dropped my phone
This is incredible. Every person in the country and around the world should listen to this. I want to say “ignore everything else…” but won’t and just start here and listen to everything else with a critical ear.
This is an awesome take thank you for it.
Had to listen to this twice it was so good.
This is the fucked up fruit of two party politics
It really isn't. There is plenty of diversity within the parties and being able to vote someone out is a more important power (which only exists in a two party system) than having more selective support for a party which more aligns with your views. In a multiparty system, ultimately voters do not pick who is the prime minister or which parties are in the governing coalition, that all happens behind closed doors and the only thing voters decide are how many people each party has in play for negotiations. Multiparty systems are just a distraction from the actual problems the US faces.
Probably the best analysis I've heard regarding the American election and current political climate. Thank you Sam Harris.
It seems like you’re one of the only ones that are truly in the center. Criticizing both sides fairly and pragmatically. Thank you.
Exactly. There are too many right-wing grifters masquerading as centrist whilst only ever criticising the left and ignoring right wing lies and bigotry.
No he isn't in the center, he is left. He is stating all this in hopes he can get the left back on track.
That would be Bill Maher…who consistently criticizes both the right and left, and still makes room for laughter. ❤
I dunno… I think is also part of the problem and a reason why Trump won. Sam has TDS.
I agree with every point, Sam. I kept asking myself, “why would someone support someone so extreme in Trump?” And it’s simply because people want something extreme - people are sick of the standard politician using fancy language and then ultimately nothing happens for the working class. People want chaos and we are going to get it.
You still don't get it. We don't want chaos. We simply want a normal functioning society with a givwrmwnt that lifts all people up and protects our rights. Not fake rights like abortion. We don't want chaos at all. You're clueless.
No People want direction and Trump gives them that. That's what a president is supposed to do not just manage the decline.
@@thomasseptimius What do you mean by "direction"? Genuinely curious.
They want change and any change is better than none. It's a message to the elites that they don't want ideological nonsense shoved down their throats any more
@@lukeh1903 how can you say Biden did nothing? You must be insanely privileged or sheltered if you think that, the child tax credit alone did more for struggling families than anything else in recent history
Agree 100% with every single (brilliantly elucidated) word! Thanks for your continued voice of sanity Sam!
Trans dystopia and Pro Palistinians were never a integral part of this election
Sorry but I disagree 💯
Love ya Sam. I really - and honorably, respect your clarity on these topics and how consistent you've been the WHOLE entire fing TIME!
Hitch would be proud!
Thank you, brother!
@@noneofyourbusiness-c7h You never really listened too - or read any of Hitchen's books then.
"You lost more people of colour than you ever have while running against archie bunker"
Thanks Sam
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Sam’s analysis has been outstanding this past year.
This was just what I needed to help me understand what the hell just happened. Why can't we have this caliber of intellect in our political candidates? Thanks, Sam.
Dear God, that was incredible. Thank you Sam Harris. 🇺🇸
Thank you, Sam. I voted for Kamala (reluctantly) but I can see why many people didn’t.
We ended up with Trotskyist autocrat, Keir Starmer because of people like you - we're already seeing the authoritarian results. You just got lucky on this occasion.
Reluctantly? Someone forced u? If u can do what u don't want to do, of such importance...u r not someone to be trusted. Not mean to be rude...but please think why you squander your agency like this.
@@Randomest_Stories Reluctantly probably because she was a meh candidate but the alternative was much worse (the principle of the lesser of two evils). For example, I and many Armenians chose Pashinyan in the last election not because I'm a fan of him, but because the alternatives (the former corrupted goverment people) were much worse. Fortunately ~70% of voters chose him even though a lot of them didn't like him. But most Americans, unlike us, haven't fully felt a crap an corrupted government that's why the chose Trump in their ignorance.
@SurenEnfiajyan hmm. Problem with opinions is both sides feel they are right and the other wrong. Even cold facts can be spun and justified over imagined causes stemming from imagined scenarios. Humans! They can justify their own bias. It does not matter if the listener is convinced. The teller is. Sigh.
@@SurenEnfiajyan Also not from the US, but I am baffled how can anyone be insane enough to vote for a droid like candidate like Kamala. And it's not just that she sucks, but the fact that they are destroying the US from within for more than a decade is incredible to me. I don't even think Trump will necessarily good for Europe, but he is definitely way better for US, and it's not even close. Kamala and her ilk have hijacked the US from within, and should be revolted against at every opportunity.
Best (and most sane!!) podcast out there!! Thanks, Sam
So you dont want to be lied to unless it is by institutions that have put themselves in places of power or put into power by corporations,and the fact you think they are ever held accountable or apologise for their mistakes and outright lies is ridiculous.
It’s absurd, incredible how a man of his intellect can even begin to vocalise such nonsense and not see anything wrong.
His point is that we need to reform the institutions, not that they are perfect. He argues that they have more value when they are working correctly, and we should focus on that instead of putting our trust in bros who have done their own research. Try to keep up.
Trump did not injure politics, people like Trump can win because your politics have been breaking for decades.
I cannot Like this video more times!
As a radical centrist, I find it very satisfying.
Radical centrist is an oxymoron lol. Vigorously defending the status quo is the entire opposite of radical.
@@Lavabug hellow fellow bug :D
What I like about radical centrism is the craziness you need to have to put two radical ideas face to face and come to a pragmatic solution. That is radical - not adhering to a single perspective; You have to work with what is reasonable on both sides.
@@scriptedBug It doesn't make you crazy, it just makes you lazy. There's nothing radical about mainstream parties, they both agree on fundamentals (do what corporations pay them billions in lobby money to do) and just split on surface level culture war issues to fill the airwaves with junk discourse and entertain voters with drivel like TRA and immigrants eating pets. A radical recognizes this is the status quo and is interested in a radical change. "Nothing fundamentally changes" (Biden's words to a room full of billionaire donors) when dem/rep parties flip the white house. Even BlackRock's CEO Larry Fink said it “doesn't matter” who won this election - they lobby both sides and always come out on top and are the ones actually making policy.
Been waiting for this one for a few days. Sam solo episodes are always the best
Best stuff Sam has said in a long time
Thank you for so clearly articulating the source of our sadness over the loss of America due to the extremes of left right
I disagree with Sam. Kamala and Tim did not engage in culture wars. Kamala didn't even talk about race/racism when she had the opportunity. They simply did not bend to the right trying to make these the key issues of this election.
The right amplified the voice of a loud minority of a minority and made it a huge problem for the whole nation. They own nearly all the young men internet spaces with their influencers.
They were happy to engage in the most noxious racial activism imaginable during the 2020 race mania. People haven’t forgotten that.
Agreed. Sam isn't viewing this objectively, because he hates identity politics with a passion and is projecting that onto people who don't even pay enough attention to know who the vice president is at given point, much less what Biden said about trans girls being able to use girls' bathrooms at lowkey speech four years ago.
You and those like you are delusional or amnesiacs who expect the rest of us to be amnesiacs. Just before the 2020 election, Harris released a video where she expressed her love for "EQUITY" (equality of racial outcomes, i.e. identity politics) over equality. Biden signed an executive order as soon as he took office declaring that DEI was going to be a part of everything he did. He tried to pass a law that would racially discriminate against whites in terms of handing out Covid aid to restaurants until he realized the Supreme Court was going to put the kibosh on that. When knife-carrying Jacob Blake was shot by a white police officer for refusing to follow the officer's instructions, Kamala flew down to meet him and called him a hero. While the BLM riots were still occurring, Kamala let everyone know that she was raising bail money for these people and falsely claimed the country remained systemically racist. Her "proof" the whole country is racist? The exceedingly rare occasions when a black man resisting arrest gets shot for his troubles by some hothead cop, that is proof. The exceedingly rare occasions when any kind of force is used against a black man. Any group disparity she doesn't like is proof. Biden claimed the same and also expressed support of affirmative action and spoke out against the Supreme Court decision. Kamala sat next to him smiling the whole time. These 2 Woke ideologues did absolutely nothing to hold the line against illegal immigration and in fact, allowed 10 million to pour over the border and did nothing until the election was looming in their headlights. Harris herself was the epitome of a DEI candidate. Do you believe that the fact that Harris suddenly had the election-year good sense to shut the fk up about everything she either expressly believed in - equity, i.e. identity politics - or went along with in her first 3 years of office is something the rest of us were going to forget about? And by the rest of us, I mean myself: a Latino and lifelong Democrat who now won't vote for a Dem ever again unless they make it very clear they are anti-DEI (in other words the kind of Dem who doesn't exist -at least public - anymore). I didn't vote for Trump either but any Republican after him is sure to get my vote. I'll vote Republican for the first time and happily do so. But sure keep believing that DEI policies and affirmative action are great and really Dems just needed to message better on the economy.
I agree that Harris/Walz campaign did everything they could to stray away from identity politics, race baiting and inciting a cultural war the way Hillary’s campaign did. However the narrative was not enough, I feel like she should have been much more vocal about settling the differences between left and right wing Americans and address some of the economic concerns of the right more. I also feel like this is not her fault it’s more of the insanity of the left’s fault, I feel like Harris was afraid to say what she truly felt about trans activism other than “this is the law and im gonna do what the law tells me” because of the absolutely ridiculous cancel culture that may affect her campaign. In a way I blame the left on her losing, she did the best she could to remain neutral but it just was not enough
Thanks for what you're saying about X and journalists on there.
It's truly heartbreaking that it's come to this. This is like murder/suicide on a national scale.
This is the thing every person in America needs to listen to
So good. So accurate. So smart. Appreciated by (maybe) 1% of the American electorate.
Ya the 1% with TDS who think the DNC can be saved. Why don’t u talk to Tulsi Gabbard or RFK jr.
This is the exact kind of elitism that does not allow Sam to see any other point of view. You've illustrated that perfectly. The other 99% of us are dumb right? Heard that one before.
@@patrickcarew5231 how many more times until it sinks in?
oh wow someone that speaks his actual fucking mind despite all the enemies he's going to make because he's not part of any one group or identity but the *CONTINUOUS PURSUIT* of the highest form of truth, integrity, and morality. 👏🏽
Funny, Sam endorses the idea of no free will - but I wonder if he will chalk this up to lacking free will.
Sam, thanks, that was soothing. A superb 30 plus minutes of sensible analysis.
You don't have to be completely correct, or cover all the bases.
Thanks for helping me, us, breathe deeply in a time of madness and upheaval.
I live in an urban environment in Canada. In a way it's worse here as one doesn't know what anyone really thinks or feels - it's disgustingly polite and over-ordered.
Perfect example of why Sam provides sanity to so many of us who are frustrated with the state of politics today.
U shouldn’t be. If u weren’t brainwashed and living in an echo chamber u would realize Trumps the best president since Nixon and maybe Regan.
Thanks for the oxygen, Sam, as always. Sane, cool-headed, well-reasoned commentary.
I am a moderate Dem whose head was exploding that my party was facilitating the trans nonsense. Being an RN, I am concerned for children being groomed to pick a gender. I am also concerned for the lax policing of our cities. We are a compassionate, selfless people, but often, with difficult issues such as homelessness, our compassion gets hijacked by the fringe activists. I voted for Kamala to save democracy, which is already on life support due to income inequality created by the GOP. A kleptocracy is the fitting demise to end stage capitalism. Thank you to Justice John Roberts (a dull man) and so many others. The cult is in charge now. Sadism is already straining to break free and get to work. Keeping my head down.
You said it
Synpathies from Australia. We were despairing that the average rational American had died out.
@@hamishstewart5188 Thanks. I think because we are a superpower, we have been bombarded by disinformation from foreign sources, in order to divide and weaken us. Your export, Rupert Murdoch, has been the worst, so I would thank you to take him back lol. Then we get the scourge of the antichrist Trump bombarding our media for a decade and infecting half of us with the contagion of his serious personality disorders. Basically, half the country had their brains hacked, and the other half thinks they are superior, which is also insufferable.
K.Harris never mentioned trans issues.
Wow....did you listen to the podcast. You are the problem that created Trump.
Thank you Sam. You have summarized so clearly everything I see around me. Thank you
I think that we all need to recognize that Barron Trump is now a very seriously influential advisor to the president of the United States. So that’s comforting.
I hope you are joking about comforting part. What’s wrong with USA & its voters? Do you all on a kamikaze mission?
@@shak535 Shit take. An old president listening to younger people around him is not bad. And no one knows Barron Trump’s views since he has said zero in public.
@@freedomlife3623 Bread and Circuses
@@freedomlife3623 No, it's just slightly over half of us that want to watch the world burn.
Soon to be King of America
It is not that the agenda or the ideology of the Republicans is wrong. It is the fact that Trump is the flag bearer of those ideologies is troubling.
The ideology is also wrong, though. Nothing he says has any real meaning. It's all vibes. He has no real plan for anything, and what plans he does have are contrary to the stated goal. This is classic populist demagoguery. For example, he says he knows you are suffering high prices and that he will "reduce them," but he has no plan to do that. HIs only stated economic policy is to deport millions of people who are cheap labor and slap massive tariffs on everything. Economists have repeatedly warned that both of these policies are highly inflationary and will raise prices. Thus, policy proposal contradicts policy goal.
He also wants to cut taxes, which will create revenue short-falls, leading to cuts in programs that most people, when polled, say they actually like. Assuming he doens't just deficit spend like he did last time. Which also contracts the desired goal of reducing the national debt.
If you read the GOP party platform and the project 2025 manual they put out, they wanna cut the FDA, the EPA, the SEC, etc. The SEC being defanged means business fraud will multiply. The FDA being unable to regulate means you are more likely to get poisoned by food. During Trump's first term in office, his meat-packing deregulation caused disease outbreaks.
So no, the ideology of the agenda is also bad. He just says it in a way that is appealing.
What are the ideologies of the Republicans?
@@Alnivol666 Authoritarian populism. If you want to see what the modern Republican party is, look at Putin and Viktor Orban.
@@s0515033 "they wanna cut the FDA, the EPA, the SEC, etc." They often _say_ that. I hope they _do_ cut them, but they're exceedingly unlikely to.
@@s0515033 Yeah...sure. More insanity. I actually do know European politics well. Trump is not like Hungary's Orban or Russia's Putin. One is a career politician and the other a forme KGB agent. Trump is a real estate magnate. The attempt of the left to place him in the same pot is simply ridiculous. But I understand why the left do it. I see way more corruption in the dem party at the moment.
Kamala had 1billion for the campaign and ended up still being 20 million in debt. Where did all that money go?
Authoritarian populism my ass. Get out of your bubble. Talk to other people. Tough grass.
One small problem with that theory... The Democratic Party hasn't been running on trans issues. This is something that's discussed almost exclusively by the Republicans. They are the ones whose relentless messaging made this an issue. They have been the party of identity politics in this election.
This. It also ignores the phenomenon of voters choosing both Trump and progressives like AOC. What do they have in common? They speak directly and they represent change.
Exactly my thoughts. What in the world does the democratic party have to do with a trans boxer at the Paris Olympics? lol. What legislation or policy have they pushed on that subject? It's classic republican cultural gaslighting, and honestly very concerning someone like Sam even falls for it.
@@joelefever496 I think most people just lump them together with the democrats, and not without reasons I would say.
You’re retaarded
@@tonybs03 The reason is relentless right-wing propaganda stoking the fires of outrage. Think about it: how many people did you hear express outrage over trans activists going too far? Now think about how many radical trans activists you encountered organically (i.e. not via the intermediary of a right-wing commentator drawing attention to them). I'm willing to bet the former outnumber the latter by at least 10 to 1. This is a manufactured issue.
Sam..I am so grateful for you. If I could have a life mentor, you would be it.
I can’t wait to see how long it takes for Trump to disagree with RFK and to throw insults at him.
I'm looking forward to the moment when I can savor the schadenfreude when the inevitable happens, and Marco Rubio is fired, and will be neither a United States Senator, or Secretary of State.
I'm not sure he can understand him.
He already has, but now their buddy’s and as long as Trump releases all the classified JFK assassination info, RFK’s done he’s job
Typical trump hater, you cant find anything to complain abiut so you invent scenarios.
The same way you could not wait to see Trump losing the election? Keep waiting forever
FINALLY... someone speaks reality. Thank you.
It was not only identity politics but cancel culture nuisance, punish people before trial( media trial), shutting people down without hearing their views.
But the elephant in the room is many of those things currently come from the right.
You do realise the Right do all 3 of those too
@ The point was, it is not expected from left. Today’s political scenario is all about point scoring that’s all.
@@AmyNewman Don't you think the Obama's should take part of the blame for Trump's massive victory? That was a huge mistake!
Spot on analysis
Stick to meditating in a quiet room Sam, politics ain’t your thing
@@charlesbarkley1340 Do you have anything concrete? You don't.
@ he needs to give it a rest man it’s embarrassing the blinders he has on when it comes to politics I feel sorry for him
@Puleczech Do you have any explanation to why Sam Harris, because he is Jewish, gets to say what he wants about apartheid in Palestine?
@@jmc5335 yes exactly, he defends the crimes of Israel as he puts Jews before his own fellow Americans
@@jmc5335 What does that even mean? "Gets to say what he wants" as in "he shouldn't talk about it"? Are you Palestinian?
"everyone' in danger of believing their pet issue explains everything that happened"
This video perfectly illustrates that.
Exactly
Nobody ran on trans sports. Harris didn’t talk about it
Yeah but she represented a group of people who would not stop talking about it. People aren't just voting for a person, they sometimes consider it voting for a whole party.
@@BFrydellno, she didn't. Ragebait Salon headlines from 2015 do not define 70 million Americans. Frankly you're dead from the neck up if you think anything relating to small town high school sports is an issue relevant to a presidential election.
@@BFrydell The right does what it does best, focuses on tiny minority of a minority and makes it a huge problem for the whole nation. The online presence of alt right media has grown alot and it has basically control of all young men spaces, gaming, fitness, self improvement etc. Perfect for feeding its bs around. If you tune out from social media and these spaces. You barely hear a peep about trans people. Majority of it, was coming from the right itself.
@@williamjameslehy1341Yeah, this is just a laughable take by Sam and him just projecting his own personal pet peeves onto the electorate at large. We know from exit polls that simply that people's cost of living has gone up, and this frankly is a far more plausible explanation.
@BFrydell put it another way, if a statistically significant portion of voters were influenced by an issue *THAT* niche and, to be quite blunt, stupid, it means they simply don't think Democrats will be better for them materially than Republicans. If it was a clear cut case of one party of universal healthcare and affordable housing, vs the other party of billionaire tax cuts and endless war, no one would go into the booth on Tuesday thinking about trans girls on volleyball teams in Midwestern suburbs.
This was refreshingly honest and spot on.
Anyone here that follows Sam's podcasts despite having a decent level of disagreement with his worldview?
For all it is worth, I do.
I follow Harris because I agree with his take on things. Am I missing something?
I don't agree with Harris on anything. Conservative Christian, isolationist, pro Palastinian, anti covid mandates, pro gun, pro Trump.... Genuinely like listening to Sam though and rarely miss an episode.
He's a fascinating case study in utter delusion.
Yes.
He's spent a big portion of his career critizing people for existing in filter bubbles, and is oblivious to his own.
He could be a apolitical juggernaut, but he's yet to discard his own god.