Having built two plywood/epoxy trimarans (37' and 42") long ago, I can hardly comprehend John getting this much more difficult design to this point in only five years. A tip of the hat to him and Barb!
Kurt outstanding design. Kurt's boats are well designed for the no nonsense proformance sailor. What ever inconvenience you think you have the speed will make up for it. Great Job.
This is the best Tri on the market under 500 grand! I watched the O'kellys episode every so often, it's an End Game boat for me. Best of luck selling this engineering marvel, John and Barb.
I see hear and feel someone is deeply in love😍🥰..even showed her to his wife.😉 Now finding way to finance it you two...as timing can be changed...hope it will work out and we can enjoy your new adventures soon🙂
Compared to Caliente, which you reviewed some time back (And I had a chance to sail) this has some pros and cons. It's about the same size and concept, and sold (Or asking) for the same $$. The overall fit and finish is better, as it should be, being basically new. The builder did a pretty amazing job. The main salon is nicer, and the galley amazing. I actually think the OB's are a plus, as Caliente's undersized and VERY noisy diesel was inadequate. The cockpit is nicer, and the dual helms are a plus. The two huge advantages Caliente had were: An easily accessed head with close to full standing head room; a better aft cabin also with standing head room and better access than Amilee. Crawling to the head is a deal killer as far as I am concerned. That should have been better thought out.
From out on my kayak at the east end of Woods Hole I watched a big trimaran rip by me at least 18 knts on a lazerline towards Nantucket awesome sight, favorable winds.
Interesting boat. Builder conservatively has $500K in labor invested, so the $200K asking price appears to be a bargain if you are looking for a performance tri. Didn’t notice a head in that aft stateroom, though and the head forward is past that low arch structure. Not sure how functional that is if you’re cruising.
She's beautiful. I love the living space. Most trimarans are tight, this one is not. A little ducking is no big deal to me. Love that aft cabin with the exit to the cockpit. Many mono hull people might not like the internal layout but to me it is as perfect as perfect gets for a tri. The performance of this thing will negate any negatives the mono people might see in her. The asking price is more then reasonable for a vessel of that build.
Yeah but... If I had the funds and a surveyor went over the build documentation and vessel, then gave his approval. Then I would check if Rapido 40s are 800,000 dollars - which they are - I would pull the trigger.
I admire the exterior style, design, build quality and the fact a man built it himself. However it looks like a boat for someone who is gonna spend most of their time inside and very little time outside. It just doesn't look comfortable on the outside on trips lasting longer than 1 day.
I absolutely love it but where the huge fridge is and that storage locker it's a shame there isn't a head. As someone who suffers sea sickness due to an off and on problem with my ears, having a very easily accessible head is really important to me. I can't imagine feeling unwell and having to crawl to the head 😂 😂
I've build boats. You will NOT get the price down by a home build. Especially not if you count your hours at something like $25 an hour. At $25/h that boat has $250k of labor in it...
@@hajosmulders Hi! well I´m sure I can, if I do not count my labor hours. They used carbon in some parts, I do not need it. I´m happy with epoxy and wood, that is cheap here.
While I respect the owner/designers concept, I’m just not able or capable of utilizing the hobbit size persons sit down shower, crawl through spaces, or very oddly accessed main cabin. One thumb up for design and creativity, one thumb down for practicality.
I don't understand the concept. I expect this boat to be very fast. It is therefore aimed more at people who want to be sporty. In that case, you certainly accept certain inconveniences. But then why is half the boat made up of the kitchen, while there is not even a decent place for all the navigation, communication and displays? And yes: not knowing how fast the boat is under sail, which is potentially its greatest strength, is not exactly a plus point when selling.
Great boat and well done to the builder - the video is misleading though and shows a level of inexperience when it comes to sailing / cruising. That’s a terrible cockpit for cruising long term (shading / weather protection) and outboards will cavitate in any sort of seaway. The hob / cooktop is unsafe for any sort of swell as well and 8 people around that table? Erm… no. Maybe great for the PNW or weekend cruising, but would need a lot more effort to get it ready for sailing further afield.
The outside of the boat looks great, pretty nice design, but the inside is where you can tell it was home built with plywood cabinet doors and other small tells like no access to the freezer without lifting the stairs. No black tank, small fresh water tank, tiny fuel tanks. It is a crying shame that health issues kept this man from sailing her after five years of fulltime work.
Are you going to make a $200 000+ bet on the unknown build quality. Also, as owner built, it will be very difficult to resell in the future. Owners of self-built boats often over-rate their boats value and in some cases it can take them a few years of lowball offers (in their minds) before they realize this.
What about it says it's not for blue water? I have sailed much smaller catamaran across oceans and with outboards as well. Most recently a 30 ft catamaran Glass over ply from Fiji to NZ. 1300NM
@@douglasashby4349 seriously I can't remember the basis of my comment without re watching the video. Cheers though and nice work on the Fiji to NZ leg......I did a similar trip over 20 years ago but opposite direction, NZ to Tonga, in a Nordhavn 46 MS......unfortunately it was mostly on diesel because of conditions at the time
@@jamesaron1967 Yes, but the Kurt Hughes design will blow the doors off the Rapido, even being 14 feet shorter. Kurt Hughes is the mad genius of multihulls, with the ultra narrow hull and amas being extremely slippery.
It seems like the Kurt Hughes or John Marples designed trimarans have tight interiors and low headroom due to the narrow hulls and swooping, low ceiling shapes to reduce windage. The focus is on performance. The opposite side of the coin would be a Neel production trimaran, but they don't sail anywhere near as fast or to windward as the Marples or Hughes. I guess you have to decide which you prefer. But I agree that the headroom in this boat seems unusually limited.
@@Morrisfactor Well I meant more about the low crawlways mostly, but yeah, how he chose a wide main compartment surface and/or large bilge space by having the deck where it is.
@@Morrisfactor Not to take away anything from this project, it's fantastic and huge respect to the builder. However, I'm not a fan of the master cabin location, size and access as well as the entrance to the forward cabin. Compare that to the Neel 43 and it's a night and day difference. Of course, you're paying more than double the price for the Neel. Some people might not care about awkward access and comfort as much as the performance being the main factor they look for, then this might could be the boat for them assuming it lives up to its expectations.
@@jamesaron1967 I don't disagree with anything you say. I would personally prefer the Neel because I'm not a racer type of guy, but they are way out of my pay grade.
PVC "ladder"--> yup "home built" crap--> RUN... zero ability to place fenders(genius), zero ability to get out of the weather(genius)--> Run away boy run away! The fact the interior is finished while the exterior is not(says everything you need to know about this "build quality")
Why would not put the Head where you would be sitting anyway under the structure and then your shower out where you can stand up! boy that's a cock up! And did I see things right! was that a PVC pipe ladder? I hope it's been filled with something strong like resin or something! I mean that's as Dodgy as hell! and then loose all that head room in the bed room for the sake of the stupid dingy! but I would love to own it and change a few things to make it perfect!
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Having built two plywood/epoxy trimarans (37' and 42") long ago, I can hardly comprehend John getting this much more difficult design to this point in only five years. A tip of the hat to him and Barb!
I was thinking the same !!
Kurt outstanding design. Kurt's boats are well designed for the no nonsense proformance sailor. What ever inconvenience you think you have the speed will make up for it. Great Job.
my thoughts exactly mate.
I would like to shake John's hand and congratulate him on his wonderful build. I hope he gets to use his boat soon before he sells it.
I'm a tri guy
Both him and Barb are awesome people. I'm definitely hoping they can sail safely it before it's sold.
Stunning boat. Love trimarans. I Was sailing on a John Shuttleworth 46 tri and the speed is amazing
This is the best Tri on the market under 500 grand! I watched the O'kellys episode every so often, it's an End Game boat for me. Best of luck selling this engineering marvel, John and Barb.
A fine racer/cruiser that should be capable of first-to-finish often in the PNW and still offer cruising joy throughout the San Juan Islands. Cheers!
‘…It’s not too bad, you just have to get down on your knees to go forward…’😂
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Always sad to see a man’s dream come to an end . Great accomplishment .
I’m 6’3” & 56 years old & for that boat I’d be happy to duck and crawl!!!!!!
I see hear and feel someone is deeply in love😍🥰..even showed her to his wife.😉 Now finding way to finance it you two...as timing can be changed...hope it will work out and we can enjoy your new adventures soon🙂
Awww come on! Buy it guys. This is your boat. Very nice! I like I like.
Nice job on the build john looks great i like your rotating mast control
my favorite boat of all you have reviewed!
Compared to Caliente, which you reviewed some time back (And I had a chance to sail) this has some pros and cons. It's about the same size and concept, and sold (Or asking) for the same $$. The overall fit and finish is better, as it should be, being basically new. The builder did a pretty amazing job. The main salon is nicer, and the galley amazing. I actually think the OB's are a plus, as Caliente's undersized and VERY noisy diesel was inadequate. The cockpit is nicer, and the dual helms are a plus. The two huge advantages Caliente had were: An easily accessed head with close to full standing head room; a better aft cabin also with standing head room and better access than Amilee. Crawling to the head is a deal killer as far as I am concerned. That should have been better thought out.
From out on my kayak at the east end of Woods Hole I watched a big trimaran rip by me at least 18 knts on a lazerline towards Nantucket awesome sight, favorable winds.
Interesting boat. Builder conservatively has $500K in labor invested, so the $200K asking price appears to be a bargain if you are looking for a performance tri. Didn’t notice a head in that aft stateroom, though and the head forward is past that low arch structure. Not sure how functional that is if you’re cruising.
She's beautiful. I love the living space. Most trimarans are tight, this one is not. A little ducking is no big deal to me. Love that aft cabin with the exit to the cockpit. Many mono hull people might not like the internal layout but to me it is as perfect as perfect gets for a tri. The performance of this thing will negate any negatives the mono people might see in her. The asking price is more then reasonable for a vessel of that build.
Yeah they learned from that mistake n remake better.
closing .img of the marina looked like valhalla. nice boat for a fast LRC, always grate vids. thanks mate!
reminds me of Rapido tris. it's quirky and charming, but who's going to take a chance on a DIY job?
Yeah but... If I had the funds and a surveyor went over the build documentation and vessel, then gave his approval. Then I would check if Rapido 40s are 800,000 dollars - which they are - I would pull the trigger.
it could be fun to see it on the water. it seems to be fast even with light winds.
a very beautiful boat.
Wonderful yacht, congratulations ! Should sail like a shot , worldwide capable!
Looks nice but I don't see any hand holds to grab in rough weather
What a beautiful vessel
I have an obsession with trimarans but also know theyre probably not the best solution for me. The performance though 😮
What keeps you from being washed overboard? Where are the hand rails?
When are you guys going to sail Desperado?
I love sailing trimarans.This boat is why i built a catamaran.
Did you ever get to sail the corsair tri that you were restoring
Very nice for a young couple, not so much for anyone with back or mobility issues.
Let's see a show of hands of everyone who bases major life decisions on UA-cam comments?
that looks like a really fun boat ,,,,
This is definitely a wide body boat, ha, love it
I admire the exterior style, design, build quality and the fact a man built it himself. However it looks like a boat for someone who is gonna spend most of their time inside and very little time outside. It just doesn't look comfortable on the outside on trips lasting longer than 1 day.
I absolutely love it but where the huge fridge is and that storage locker it's a shame there isn't a head. As someone who suffers sea sickness due to an off and on problem with my ears, having a very easily accessible head is really important to me. I can't imagine feeling unwell and having to crawl to the head 😂 😂
It definitely looks like it's speeding sitting at the dock. 😎
one impressive build
Love the tri! I wish this could be priced as 50K than I could afford it ..... need to build one myself with wood and epoxy to get the price down..
I've build boats. You will NOT get the price down by a home build. Especially not if you count your hours at something like $25 an hour. At $25/h that boat has $250k of labor in it...
@@hajosmulders Hi! well I´m sure I can, if I do not count my labor hours. They used carbon in some parts, I do not need it. I´m happy with epoxy and wood, that is cheap here.
Lol. . I see that boat all the time. My slip is right across the bay from it!
It's beautiful
GROOVY VIDEO
Man! I'm ready to take a loan.
U need at least 1000W solar for off grid. It look like a home inside compared to regular boat.
While I respect the owner/designers concept, I’m just not able or capable of utilizing the hobbit size persons sit down shower, crawl through spaces, or very oddly accessed main cabin. One thumb up for design and creativity, one thumb down for practicality.
I don't understand the concept. I expect this boat to be very fast. It is therefore aimed more at people who want to be sporty. In that case, you certainly accept certain inconveniences.
But then why is half the boat made up of the kitchen, while there is not even a decent place for all the navigation, communication and displays?
And yes: not knowing how fast the boat is under sail, which is potentially its greatest strength, is not exactly a plus point when selling.
I don't know much about boats, I just like them, does anyone know if this is capable to ocean crossings ie traveling to anywhere in the world?
Yes, YOU should buy it.
No space for a washer/dryer?
2 15 hp outboards. Smart.
Great boat and well done to the builder - the video is misleading though and shows a level of inexperience when it comes to sailing / cruising. That’s a terrible cockpit for cruising long term (shading / weather protection) and outboards will cavitate in any sort of seaway. The hob / cooktop is unsafe for any sort of swell as well and 8 people around that table? Erm… no. Maybe great for the PNW or weekend cruising, but would need a lot more effort to get it ready for sailing further afield.
The outside of the boat looks great, pretty nice design, but the inside is where you can tell it was home built with plywood cabinet doors and other small tells like no access to the freezer without lifting the stairs. No black tank, small fresh water tank, tiny fuel tanks. It is a crying shame that health issues kept this man from sailing her after five years of fulltime work.
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Where's the water tank, how many gallons?
7 out of 10.
Is it bluewater trimaran?
Has she sold yet?
Are you going to make a $200 000+ bet on the unknown build quality. Also, as owner built, it will be very difficult to resell in the future. Owners of self-built boats often over-rate their boats value and in some cases it can take them a few years of lowball offers (in their minds) before they realize this.
exactly ... 80k tops ... builder in poor health ... tech support is in poor health.
Did you get performance numbers from the owner?
Did you watch the video? It's not done, i.e. it does not have sails yet.
I love trimaran boats.
impressive
Certainly not for blue water cruising, but nice enough for the meek :) and good value for those that just want the lifestyle without crossing oceans.
What about it says it's not for blue water? I have sailed much smaller catamaran across oceans and with outboards as well. Most recently a 30 ft catamaran Glass over ply from Fiji to NZ. 1300NM
@@douglasashby4349 seriously I can't remember the basis of my comment without re watching the video. Cheers though and nice work on the Fiji to NZ leg......I did a similar trip over 20 years ago but opposite direction, NZ to Tonga, in a Nordhavn 46 MS......unfortunately it was mostly on diesel because of conditions at the time
@@douglasashby4349
Yeah when you think about those old Pivers people used to sail around the Pacific!
Nice boat but is sort of low and narrow in spaces and that might be tough to maneuver in rough seas.
The big question is how much does he want for his boat?
200k
the hobbit door is a deal breaker, can't imagine how irritating it would be to have to duck every time to go forward
I think home has a crush on "john"
Has nobody seen waterworld ?
Not a boat for someone with a bad back and knees.
I think this is the same boat Sailing La Vagabond is having made.
No, they are having a Rapido 60 built.. The O'Kelly's looked at it though.
LOL, you're equating a $200k 45ft home build to a $2 million 60ft carbon fiber exotic..?!
@@jamesaron1967 Yes, but the Kurt Hughes design will blow the doors off the Rapido, even being 14 feet shorter. Kurt Hughes is the mad genius of multihulls, with the ultra narrow hull and amas being extremely slippery.
@@leonply What you're saying is this boat can exceed 30kts?
@@jamesaron1967 Yes. Kurt Hughes designed trimarans are incredibly fast and stable.
You guys are always looking but never buying 😂
Should you buy this boat? No, you, shouldn't. It is a nice boat, though.
Its a trimaran is all i was saying.
"Should I buy this". If it is intended to be an open ocean vessel I would say not to purchase it. Get something with a keel, as it is much safer.
This is an interesting boat, you managed to make the tour boring though
Builder must be 5' or something.
It seems like the Kurt Hughes or John Marples designed trimarans have tight interiors and low headroom due to the narrow hulls and swooping, low ceiling shapes to reduce windage. The focus is on performance. The opposite side of the coin would be a Neel production trimaran, but they don't sail anywhere near as fast or to windward as the Marples or Hughes. I guess you have to decide which you prefer. But I agree that the headroom in this boat seems unusually limited.
@@Morrisfactor Well I meant more about the low crawlways mostly, but yeah, how he chose a wide main compartment surface and/or large bilge space by having the deck where it is.
@@Morrisfactor Not to take away anything from this project, it's fantastic and huge respect to the builder. However, I'm not a fan of the master cabin location, size and access as well as the entrance to the forward cabin. Compare that to the Neel 43 and it's a night and day difference. Of course, you're paying more than double the price for the Neel. Some people might not care about awkward access and comfort as much as the performance being the main factor they look for, then this might could be the boat for them assuming it lives up to its expectations.
@@jamesaron1967 I don't disagree with anything you say. I would personally prefer the Neel because I'm not a racer type of guy, but they are way out of my pay grade.
Only men in the cockpit
It's very well planned and too fast.
200 k?!? Ya pass.
nah, too cramped looking and i'm only 5'3"
Ngl this is a nice boat but she is a lil over priced I dont see this being worth much more then 100 120k. If it was down south Id say worth even less
damn thats so sad
Doesn't look much comfy, what is worst its not finished but already very dirty :/
Fascinating - but not my cup of tea. Have some issues with things like the placement of the stove.
Haha! Good luck finding the _perfect_ boat.
PVC "ladder"--> yup "home built" crap--> RUN... zero ability to place fenders(genius), zero ability to get out of the weather(genius)--> Run away boy run away! The fact the interior is finished while the exterior is not(says everything you need to know about this "build quality")
Wtf?
Never got trimarans, just a monohaul with outriggers
Speed and stability, but it still FEELS to a large extent like a monohull. Try it sometime and you might change your mind.
Ha you got it exactly!😂
A boat for the America's - not suitable for Europe.
Ugh, that is so claustrophobic at the front and rear cabins...
_Crawl spaces_
Who cares?
Lol, you two are never going to buy a boat.
It is so cramped and uncomfortable below, I cant imagine spending much time on it.
Why would not put the Head where you would be sitting anyway under the structure and then your shower out where you can stand up! boy that's a cock up! And did I see things right! was that a PVC pipe ladder? I hope it's been filled with something strong like resin or something! I mean that's as Dodgy as hell! and then loose all that head room in the bed room for the sake of the stupid dingy! but I would love to own it and change a few things to make it perfect!