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This is the only channel I have found which gives good production tips. You cut it straight to the point and give really good examples.
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@@infared4ohell no 💀
Damn, you’re missing out then.
man i believe you have the best mixing tutorials on UA-cam!! you are the GOAT !!
Fire 🔥
Great vidio Streaky, so helpful to get those vocals sitting perfect in the mix
Very clear and right as usual! ❤
This setup is so good guys!
Tried these settings myself to great results!
Cheers bro!
Thanks for sharing this! Great bonus explanation of how limiting in the mixing stage can help yield to louder masters!
Yeah works great
Never knew why to limit vocals during the mixing process. Thank you for enlightening me! Please explain more about this topic 🙏🏽
An impressive tutorial, this video should have 15 thousand likes, because it is valuable information, given for free. Regards from BR
Thank you Streaky 🙏
Everyday is a school day... thanks for this :)
Great video, bro 👏🏼
Thanks 🎉
UAD 1176 is on sale (80% off) now at £39 in a bundle with two limiters. 🧡 Bargain!
Nice video 💪🏽 most importantly, you must never lose this beard 🔥
Thx 🙏
Song itself is fire
This is a well-known technique.
There's a singer I work with and his voice just shines with a 12:1 ratio on the 1176. I then send that in to a CL 1B and just set it until it sounds "right." After that I use the Waves MV2. I'll do any automaton where necessary.
thank u bro
Who can argue with this? Hell, it's working perfectly..
I've recently started to mess with waves MV2 and that is also an amazing plugin for vocals, it also really cuts them through the mix, just turn up the low level threshold fader, it upward compresses the signal only below the the level you set with the low level fader. Get some great sounding vocals, give it a shot.
Mv2 brings those deep lows up for balance. Best plug wavs has imo
@@gullcreekstudio1391 And highly underrated and under used
Nice 🔥
Do you have any tips for bass or baritone voices, or does this work just as well for those?
The 1176 Rev A is good when you want to add more grit and brightness. Otherwise I’d reach for the Rev E. The compressor that usually wins for me is the UAD LA-2A Gray.
Thanks
Is there parallel compression also (from the last video showing the vocal processing ) as well as the 76 in the vid?
This great Streaky...Question...would a clipper work better...?...If not, why...?
@Streaky
Thank you for this! Can I ask? This in combination with light settings on Wavesfactory's Trackspacer on heavily percussive tracks (just for peace of mind) pros and cons for the vocals and drums?
1176 setting used here is CLA Vocal preset in Waves CLA-76 Bluey.
i set my 1176 when tracking on 1 for attack and 7 for my release for hip - pop vocals streaky should i use anything besides that it always seems to work?
Best thang I have discovered to find what i have searchin, its to use these damn buses. I go positive dB and then drop it to the 0dB level. Is it good? Can You do an episode about that?
is this the first compressor in the chain ?
What about using a clipper instead a bw limiter to deal with peaks?
I'm really really waiting for this track to be out
It never will be its homemade from samples soz
@@Streaky_com you better be kidding me
I'm a little confused with the attack settings on the limiter, it looks like its set to 10 seconds? Would this not just let too much transient information through? I may have misunderstood though! Sounds great either way!
Sounds great but try the MDWDRC2 from George Massenburg. Next level on vocals. Not cheap though.
From the waveforms of the vocals, they have been compressed on the way in already. This is more important and the reason for "louder" vocals. The 1176 and the limiter are just the icing on the cake. Trying this basic method on raw recorded vocals will not achieve the same results.
If I'm using the 1176 LN Legacy and LA-2A L from UAD console. Am I supposed to be using Mono or Record. I'm using Logic then there's off course the plugins from Logic such as waves, Fabfilter, etc. Thank you for any guidance.
Great one streaky! Get rid of that breaths 😅
Guys, bear in mind that with the CLA-76 it's (almost) always needed a good de-esser at the end of your vocals chain because the esses will sound wild after compression. I love this compressor but I'm not a big fan of super autotuned vocals xD
Beards looking good my friend:)
Cheers
When i compress vocals i use 3 compressors.
1.1176 to reduce peaks
2. Pulltec or l2-2a
3. Distressor on pararel compression to push vocals upfront.
What you think about that.?
Nice combo
When you say normalised, normalised to what level of db?
Great stuff! The usual silly comments about breaths etc. 😂
The song is already good
I would be fair to say that a limiter on a vocal chain can squash the vocals since it's a heavy ratio compressor. I would say having a compressor after your surgical eq to shave off peaks for a -4 reduction so that it's leveled the right way after you process down the chain then again everyone's mixing and mastering is different. All love tho and I use your highend tip streaky it saved me wonders in masters
Yeah this gives a super flat sound for radio but not the prettiest
@@Streaky_com It is a good way to reduce volume without automation it’s just like you said too it’s not prettiest sound even on platforms too
Thanks for the video. Useful! But if you don't have that compressor (I don't), what settings would you use on a standard compressor, such as the Logic compressor? Or wouldn't you use that one at all?
i guess you can use any compressor - he said slow attack and fast release, and ratio was like 4:1, so GR was i guess 10dB
Any compressor with attack and release parameters with these settings:
Attack - 0.6 to 1ms
Release - 40 to 60ms
Ratio - 4:1
GR - 10 to 20db
that's it? the vocals were tracked with any other compressor? just -20db on the 1176 and -3db in pro L2 ?
From the looks of the waveform, I'm a guess they had one on the mic vocal chain on the input...
Is it not to much when i take my serial compression and this compression from you and is it not so that every vocal is different and needs different compression?
Depends how it sounds
Here’s the question I’ve been meaning to ask for a while now….. Should we be track using outboard gear (EQ and compressor) going into recording vocals or should we keep it raw when going into the box? Bcuz if we compress or eq going in do we have to that going into the box?
Depends how brave / experienced you are, but tracking a vocal nicely out the box in the first place is nice
@@Streaky_com Ok thank you for responding. I’ve been using compression and eq while recording/tracking vocals for a while now. I use both lightly while tracking though
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And the ProMb before?
Cant you break down the full mix for this one??
I have a question. Is it ok to high pass bass like 808 around 80hz?
It’s alright to do anything just do it whilst the mix is playing so you can hear what you lose or gain
Shelves are also good friends, if you high pass do it knowing how you're affecting the phase. For example, try taking your 808, check your peak value, then high pass it, and see how this peak value jumped whereas you're supposed to take some frequencies off
I wouldn’t even use a limiter on vocals just the 1176 and a second light compressor but each to there own
Yeah that’s another way 👍
@@Streaky_com i do love the ll76 setting though!
Do you leave those loud inhale/breath sounds in the final track?
Yeah if they are not too distracting
@@Streaky_com Hi, looks like they are a bit distracting... I was about to write the same comment, not necesserly have to remove them completly but automate them imho.
Who did that song? Is 🔥🔥🔥🔥
i dont understand how do the dry vocal look like there is compresion on it my vocals is not like that when they are dry thats for shure
It was compressed on the way in with outboard gear. And compressed pretty hard..you can tell by how round things are in the wave
these are the exact settings john hanes used on butter by BTS and some taylor swift track
not that a 1176 has a lot of variation in possible settings but random funfact
These are THE 1176 settings
Saturn would pop those vocals out even more 👌🏽
But Saturn often occludes Uranus.
@@cortical1lol
Man, do I ever. I need weak, barely audible vocals. What’s that formula?
why not use a clipper instead of a limiter so that you don't need to push up the volume in the limiter and then drop it back down in the buss?
why did u start with vocals out of balance like that?
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The info is good but it doesn’t help someone understand “why” if they don’t grasp level matching to be able to hear what it’s doing to their material.
Example: you boosted gain into the limiter to hit the threshold. It got louder because of gain too.
Then your rebalance had the fader go up from 16 in the beginning of the video to 12 by the end. So the processing is not heard as much as the gain is. Yes it’s got more crest factor, and the peak was lowered so can turn it up again, but there’s no comparable amount the viewer can grasp. YOU know how to re level of course because you have the knowledge with which how to apply. But without the in between insight, people will just use your settings and not grasp why.
this. videos like these confuse the sh** out of beginners.
The processing is obviously heard the first time he shows you what the compressor is doing to the vocals, so now that the vocals level has changed obviously one is going to have to adjust the volume of the vocals in the final mix. If you are asking how to "re-level" that just comes from experience and a mixers personal taste and style, also if you want a ball park figure on where to start, if the song has a good snare in it, the vocals should be at least as loud as the snare, but not all songs have a good snare/clap in it, then you have to rely on your own intuition
@@mod3l Well you need to get a good grasp on the basics first, in this case how do compressors work, there are tons of videos out there explaining that.
@@DjJay my point is that it is not “obvious” to anyone who doesn’t already know this method. Any tip can always take 20 more seconds to demonstrate what I said. Just in case, it’s not obvious. A lot of newcomers will come across a title like this and click long before they go through the ear training of learning compression. I say this with love for Streaky. I support his videos overall.
@@DjJay when a video is telling you to "use these settings and get results" one would assume that there's no other variables. But this is just not the case here. Especially when using something like 1176, where the input is highly dependent on the source level. Streaky and a lot of other creators are guilty of this and you really can't take these videos at face value.
Do those settings work for rap as well
Yes. But if you want west coast clarity use a DBX160 like Dre. If you want east coast grit use a Distressor like Nas.
@@NoQualmsTheArtist No CL1B for Dre and Nas?
@@martijn_nl nope. That's more used for pop, r&b and trap. Still a great compressor tho.
When you’re attack on L2 is that low you’re just softclipling, rather than limiting
Leveled out, yes - but level matched, no. Would be great to see what it would be like starting with the vocals on top of the music from the start
is the singer with a congested nose?
Very loud breaths
Can sound great in the mix
Breathes are all an artistic style depending on the mix you may want those for a natural sound or you can go edit them to remove or turn them down. An engineer will always do those things. There's no such thing as a set and forget it when it comes to recording any part of a song. 80 percent of my mixing is "fixing" things to get a better sounding performance.
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I was wondering why you aren't doing Serial. Compression here to make vocals easy and smoother and cleaner and bolder
Automate mate
This technique is only one puzzle in the whole picture.
I was here first 😂🎉
Who ever wants to have dynamics in their music? We can't be competitive like that
Dang. I was hoping for the weak, barely audible vocal tip. Maybe next time 😢
😂😂
This is loudness war, not enginerring.
First
maybe sidechain it to the music afterwards?
I am looking for someone to master my song. The producer gave me mp3. And I didn’t want to go into what he was asking. He wanted me to pay more and he will make another song which again ruined. Anyone who can master mp3 on affordable price.
What's your offer
Can I have a listen of the mixed mp3?
you need to learn mixing and mastering not just mastering.... :) my little friend... and if you dont pay instruments and produce you are nothing special ... ;) my uk friend
Obviously I’m not your friend as I wouldn’t have one like you…ps you win loser come moment of the month 🙏😂
@@Streaky_com its my job to do this :) after this you gona grow bigger.. if you know me in real life you woud like to me my friend.. i promise
Autotune vocals......prffff it still sounds so damn annoying. Respect for making it sound a bit more proper and listening to it for probably, a lot of time.
Sometimes we have to work with what we are given 🤷♂️
@@Streaky_com Yes, I would do it for the challenge too. Do you mix/ master every genre?
without those expensive equipments you're not gonna record vox that clear 😢 anyway video is good though
It’s brought up the breaths too much.
Too harsh vocals
So much tuning and truncation....
Yeah battered…
Sorry Streaky, but this is the fifth video about compression vocals. No, it's even the fifth video about the best vocal chain. Dude what's the deal now?
Sorry no more I promise
If it’s good information and deals with different plugins and hardware and uses, I don’t see the problem.
@@Streaky_comthe more info you give us the better, don’t listen to this guy
Why you complaining? He is giving us the sauce in different flavors. Appreciate what he give provides. Streaky keep doing what your doing. Post whatever you want.
@@Streaky_comno , no , your doing great Streaky keep doing what your doing . I’m learning, what’s the deal with that mo…ker. Have to come someone how thinks he now’s everything. And now I have to pay for his msg . Every topic no matter what , I learn something new.
Compression can be done , I think also on effects ? I haven’t done that , I will like to know the correct way to do so .
Please , don’t listen to people like this , there is new Engeneers that will love to know , and how can be better then you ?? I don’t trust every video I see . So keep the compression. Thx Streaky
The pitch correction is just too heavy, not natural and robotic. I wish the singer is capable and can deliver a very soulful performance. Also I'm confused the first time I heard whether the singer is male or female. Song, music and mix is good but not the vocal performance.
Artistic Decision?
It’s becoming a robotic world.
Like it or not, show business looks to the future not the past.
@@_RZ____ yeah, artistic decision because art is subjective. Not many can sing live these days, mostly lip sync and as long as there’s ticket sales. On studio recordings, only a few can make top producers get the goose bumps when the singer is singing from the heart and soul. Music education is also important, like vocal classes teaching proper vocal techniques. Show biz is all about popularity. Music industry is the dirtiest business. You got money, we can produce your tracks even if you can’t sing. My AI will assist you.
Seriously? Set rules? C'mon , man.
too much auto tune that vocal streaky, yuck