Avoid The Pitfalls in Native American Genealogy
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- Опубліковано 8 вер 2024
- Many people encounter challenges when trying to research ancestors who are said to have Native American ancestry. It is important to remain focused on the records to stay on track.
Very good points. You aren't going to find too many tribes looking for new members. And real Indians were discouraged from claiming their heritage. Indians that didn't want to leave their land usually had to give up their tribal rights and start paying taxes. Am I right? Tribes often seem to move around more than people do.
Also if you have the old tale about Cherokee Princess in your family you probably aren't Cherokee. We never had princesses.
Look up Princess pocahontas aka miss poky of the paumakey tribe. Her grave, her picture and everything is available. Also we know for a fact 98% of "blacks" descend from the olmecs incas and Aztecs which had dreadlocks and were negroes
But you're white how are you native you must be native to Europe Anglo-Saxon people
@@DONNYPESO Cherokee's mixed a lot with Irish and scottish.
@@allenbullock5 you people never know when to quit, actually black natives laugh at yall
@@Leisma92 Fact: Whites weren't confined on plantations so they were able to roam vast American lands, unlike blacks, & marry Indians, so there are many more whites with Indian ancestry than there are blacks with Indian ancestry.
Are you still available? My only quorum is it I’m surprise you’re using a term Native American because everybody is a Native American if they were born on his land. There’s a difference in being an aboriginal. However I love the tips you gave in his video.
Blackfoot is thought to be a code name if you will, for Saponi and other Eastern Siouan tribes of Virginia and the Carolinas.
Well said on everything. I'm a Cherokee Citizen in Tahlequah Ok and there is no gold. You are definitely right when people think they are going to get money or schooling. If you are going after that for that reason you're going to be disappointed. Even if you find ancestors on some rolls each Nation has different blood quantum requirements to become a citizen.
I think it's stupid to want to find your NM heritage for money. I'm researching purely to know who they were. I found My great grandmas mom on the swetland roll and chapman roll.
I was told I was Cherokee all my life..and Spanish.. I found one Cherokee ancestor all the way back 5 generations, but the majority of my native blood is most likely Ramaruri and Osage. However.. Records are not accurate .. I know MANY who traced their ancestors to various reservations and their ancestors were listed "white" and while the DNA test showed European lineage, they were mostly native, and the ancestor was most definitely majority native. I can't even tell you how many times I've heard this And seen it with my own eyes.In many not all cases records were made by the same people that were trying to eliminate the indigenous races. Case and point my friend who knew his maternal great grandparents and his gramma and grandpa who were almost fullblod Cherokee with deep cultural roots.His father's side was completely Mexican from sinaloa......His birth certificate says Caucasian!I'm not saying that everyone who has a ancestor that they think might be native and mis labeled is, but I really don't trust the records.A combination of DNA testing first, then Genealogy is really the best way in my opinion.
How are you osage.. They were in Arkansas on the river..I was born in Arkansas..they were removed by the government 1830..to Oklahoma..I have a native American haplogroup from that region.. Extremely hard to trace
That's was most likely find through the Racial Integrity Act which used cruel tactics to force misnomers on the people in an attempt to erase the foot print of many ancestors. Gotta dodge all hijack
@@Ken-wc7po The people of the past did travel and emigrate throughout the Americas ya'know. It's not so hard to believe, as well as some forced emigration that may have possibly happened as well.
@@radamezprince3505 Racial integrity act... Never heard about this one..but it sounds evil
@@Ken-wc7po Please research it, it's a crucial game changing point of history, then look at who executed it and to whom endorsed it. Be prepared because it'll rock your world.
YES YOU ARE VERY TRUE GOAL SHOULD BE TO FIND YOUR TRUE HISTORY
They. Were. 500. Tribes. In. The. America. Sense. The. Beginning of time. And. Have Always. Been. Here. Theres. A Book. Called. 500. Nation
@AmigoKandu I have researched many descendants of Freedmen from all of the Five Tribes including Cherokee Freedmen. Note that the Cherokee Freedmen are one of five groups with similar history. Choctaw, Chickasaw, Creek and Seminoles also held slaves and took them to Indian Territory. The descendants of all of these five nations have a large record set----the same record set---to document their history.
For more info:
blackandredjournal.blogspot.com
african-nativeamerican.blogspot.com
Just because angela is dark skinned does not mean a thing! are you here to learn or just to troll and insult. Just looking at your family does'nt mean anything either! Get informed!
Hello! Do you mind if I ask what tribes occupied the Carolinas and Philadelphia please?
@@ashleyabusaft6100 Are you talking to me?
@Apollo Mayaimi Where did your Ward family live?
my mom family is from Virginia and I am understanding that they hid a lot of information and my father side is from North Carolina and I did see wacacanee and oconeechee
@Ole Carlos Because she has brown skin? You should know that you are African too sir.
Brown skin doesn’t mean your from Africa smdh! You people not watching the video!
What part of Virginia I’m trying to build a base I’m in surry county
Ole Carlos hold on bitch u a whole white person go back to ya shithole of a country and get off my fellow sister
@Ole Carlos *Arrogance + Ignorance = Savagery* My mother's family has dark chocolate skin *AND* are full blood Cherokee (on the 1929 Dawes Roll) and my father is Mattaponi (Powhatan/na-Pamunkey line). In addition, my friend from Jersey is a Ramapo tribesman (has his native ID card and the whole nine) - most of them look so called "African American" (the new paper genocide by-word for us) - and are treated as such by police - it's attitudes like yours which add to the insanity. Many of us who were called 'colored', 'negro' then 'blk' are Aboriginal Turtle Islanders NOT from Africa (at least within the past 1000 years of migration to the 'Amarucas' [Serpents of Wisdom land]) It is time to awaken from the Western colonial Dreaming and grow up.
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Great info Queen!!!
"Blackfoot" is a term used by black people for people with black and indian mixture.
Good advice. I’ve been able to trace many of my ancestors to Louisa and Rockbridge counties in Virginia. I’ve found the further back I went in the records the more they were listed as “ free people of color “, “ Free Mulattos “ or Mulatto. Many of the surnames were very common in those regions: Jackson, Clarke, Winston, Mosby, Jennings and Cole(s). So it can be a challenge to avoid going down the rabbit hole. I’ve also found if I can trace a direct line from my furthest ancestor to me, then you know your( or reasonably know ) on the right path.
I know this video was in my algorithm to sway me from knowing that I am from the indigenous peopled America, but I have had records changed in my face about my race, so I know what has been done to my people. Try something new, I see through you.
From what I've seen in research, the "blackfoot" term was connected to the Saponi and other tribes in the area.
The term is all over the map. The BlackfEET Tribe is in Montana, on the Canada side the say BlackfOOT. The are Siksika in their tribal language.
Blackfoot is like Redbone, both terms from American Frontier before there were 50 states.
Due to slavery era, Negros if mixed then were called Mulatto, Quadroon, Octoroon, it was the "One Drop Rule" era.
Blackfoot or Redbone was quicker way to say mixed with Indian.
I am not interested in monetary gain, I truly want to find my native American ancestry. I was shocked to get my DNA results back from ancestry and it showed zero Native DNA. I show DNA links to family members that are native but I show none. So confusing. I'm so excited to find this utube channel to help understand this better. Thank you!
hi, my father is 80 years old and he has started to tell me more of my grandmother who I never met. He has said she is part Choctaw and white and we have one photo of her before she died. My interest is to know more about her and how she met my grandfather (a much older man) and hopefully more about our family history. What would be a good start? The one family name we have for her is Lewis and they lived in Vicksburg MS area.
I KINDLY THANK U
@AYWalton Thank you. I want to look at others' successful search results so as to not duplicate the effort.
I imagine the various enrollment offices have a wealth of info from the certified family histories they have reviewed for enrollment. Are there privacy issues?
I support all indigenous and tribal people in their self-determination, all over Mother Earth.
Angela remember if anyone wants to find Red nations blood and succeeds please know that if the male or female marries or has kids from another race is cut in half and if that persons child marries outside the race again is also cut in half and should this continue on and on leaves that bloodline not having Red blood but now has a lineage not actual blood because this was cut out thru a different race coming in contact. Most likely a person wanting to enroll most likely won’t be able to because of blood quantum. Knowing the family tree is most important in enrolling. An application for enrollment and appearing in front of the Tribal Council if rejected and based on answers may or may not get a person enrolled. I say this because I watched your presentation and I am Shoshone-Bannock. Chippewa -Cree four nations because of the greed of white america, your viewers may not know this. So please do your research before telling your viewers what you said in this presentation
The tribes Angela mostly speaks about use Lineal Ancestry from Dawes Rolls and Treaty of 1866.
The CNO Enrollment Office requires DNA test only because some people never knew they were adopted.
Enrollment Officers see all types of cases, and Indian Country suffers the most from Fakes.
Very good points in your presentation. Have you traced any living Americans back to any of the tribes of Africa? Have you helped any descendants of the Cherokee Freedmen?
Nope! We not from Africa
@@kasheem1747 Olmec?
Amigo Kandu Why do I have to be from Africa and I don’t have a single relative
@@kasheem1747 Olmec is not from Africa.
Amigo Kandu I didn’t say that !!!
Enrollment offices are for enrollment only and records submitted are not open to the public. You mentioned that you don't wish to duplicate the effort? What are you working on that would cause duplication?
In one generation of my family we were classified as free people of color. In between census , my family claimed to find and adopt a Cherokee girl. That girl took the family name , she then married a man who was classified as free person of color. Two census later their children were registered as white. At the time being Cherokee was easier than black or mixed, Cherokee could vote, own slaves , own property. They were considered an lay to the government post revolutionary war. So, families like mine that were African and European mix would sometimes try to hide the African and claim native. I found evidence of this in my family. I am white by appearance and cultural experience, learning this about my own kin really changes my perspective on what people did to survive and maintain their freedom and attempt owning things and having rights. Have you ever come across this kind of circumstance? I m part melungeon. My family uses the term black dutch sometimes when speaking of that part of the family, and the mixed history.
I don't want money!!!!! I just want to right the wrong and find my ancestors
Thank you. The information is definitely useful.
It you be great to see a step by step set of directions how to find Dawes Census cards for a family member. I know the enrollment number but now what?
My grandma told me since I was young that we had Mohawk blood but I only have 2% native ancestry so I’m confused
I know my family live in Oklahoma and that's were my grandfather lived with grandma. My grandfather has a roll number in which I know. I met my Indian family on the reservation which they don't call that no more but we still do. I have information but what to do with it?
How much for a genealogy search?
Are you still available for help 2020???
Yes, I still research these records. There are several active research groups also on Facebook,so if your are there, you can also post questions there.
Yes you are right to sep the two
Native American and Indigenous American ancestry can be the same but at the same time be different
Who do you recommend for DNA testing? There are so many rip offs out here! Thank you!
www.africanancestry.com
If you first check on ancestry.com you will find much of what you are looking for, you can then do their kit because the paper trail is already there.
Good day i have been trying the to tie the links but i am running into some issues if i could get some feedback from would be totally awesome
It has been a while since I made that video, but will be happy to assist you. Plus there are some new links as well. Shoot me an email at aywaltonraji@gmail.com. Always happy to assist!
that's what my research is about more about connecting to a side of the family that I'm not close with. My mom and dad divorced a long time ago, because he was just not that great of a father, or husband, so my mom never allowed me to be apart of that side because of that. My grandma my father's mother, was an amazing grandma she loved her kids and grandkids I don't know much about her family either though. I always heard we had NM ancestry from my grandpa's side on my dads, side ever since I was very little, so I've been more curious about it than anything. According to my mother she met my great grandma, on my dads side when she lived in Alabama and she was very clearly NM. I do take into consideration that that was a long time ago in the 80's, my brother was born in 87, I was born in 91, so I'm not sure. She says that were cherokee, I found who my great grandmother was, and did find her mother and her mothers father on the swetland roll and on the chapman roll, and possibly my great grandmother and her father on the miller roll as well. My great grandma's mother whose last name was "Goble" her mother, was said to have been Native American and her mother and father were half and whatever else. That's all that I've found so far. My great grandma's mom, was said to have been 1/8 from a cherokee enrollment paper that I got from my aunt on my dads side, I dont know how far she went in her research, so I've kinda taken over lol.
I know my great grandma was either creek or Cherokee not sure what tribe yet ..South Carolina and Georgia area but we took the Last Name DeVoe which is French wat makes me think my ancestors were killed and pushed out by them and the ones that stayed probably mother with kids we took their last name but her father and mother was Cherokee and I need to know where my tribe at I’m bout to get my ancestors land back it’s up
Aa a little girl I was told I'm white person. My son brought me a DNA test all my test came out that Native American Indian. It when up. And. Circle around. Central Europe. And going right Circle around Great British. So took it again. From a different Companies. Thinking it was wrong. My DNA test came out I'm. 3.4th Native American Indian. They told me i have very little white in me. I born in New Jersey. Who can help me look for my family tree the right way. So I can find out what tribe I am. i was I'm Cherokee and Apache. I don't really know
What's being said is that we as people are misnomers but European natives are the Real American Indian.
my Daddy and I are the 4th viewers :)
No new info.
I am mexican american and have some native american ancestory, so ive been told. I have heard from both sides of my family that our last name was changed. MY paternal grandfather was adopted and looked the most native american. Have you been able to help people traced roots when both side of the family have had their name changed? Is this common? Thanks
Also there is a rumor there is Spanish royalty on my mom's side. Is this something you hear often too?
I hear many things with people claiming many ties to people of stature. I have helped people with ties to those on the Dawes Rolls (5 tribes---Cherokee, Choctaw, Chickasaw, Creek and Seminole.) However you may want to look at the records of the 1900 and 1910 census. There was a special Indian Census during those two census years. They are on Ancestry. If the ancestor lived in a largely native community they were documented on those census records. Family Search has census records and that site is free.
If you are Mexican you are more than likely Native American as the name includes all tribes in North, South, and Central America and the Carribean.
You make very good points thank you!! I have a question to ask of you. I have a GGG grandmother that was supposed to be full blood native American cherokee and she was supposed to be born in Arkansas in 1883 and she was on a Indian territory choctaw nation 1900 census but there is no birth record of her that i have found or any records of any kind from her or her family! She did not have a mom listed on this record census and her brothers and sisters have no records of them. Her dad has no records of him even being alive at all only record is 1900 census! Her name was Ama Brewster and her supposed father was E.W. Brewster. It list them as white but I am under the impression that she was adpoted. Its like her and her family are ghost meaning no past records only that 1900 census nothing in the past. She has record from when she had kids but had changed her name to Ama to Emma? Please help!!!
Hello Josh,
Note that Arkansas is right next to LeFlore County Oklahoma which at one time was the NE section of the Choctaw Nation. So she might have been born on either side of the border. Does she appear on the regular census on or an Indian census page? 1900 and 1910 had two versions of the census. You might want to check for her in Sebastian County Arkansas--which might be where she lived for some time. There were not birth records in Arkansas at that time, however.
But just in case, see if you can find her in the Ft. Smith Arkansas area.
I am mot sure if you are for real dude, the math is wrong
I think the Brewster name does appear on the Dawes Roll if I remember correctly.
My family originated around Winston-Salem and also different parts of North Carolina but I know my great-uncle State on the Cherokee reservation he hunted on a Cherokee reservation he lived the life of a Cherokee up until his untimely demise in a truck accident on both sides of my family that harraway in the Malones and I found out that living in Ohio May raised in Ohio the Great Snake Mounds they found negroid skeletal skeletons in the Mounds thousands years old not in their hundreds but thousands years old
My family is also related to the Hoovers and the scales and this part of my family is just about all all over the United States and Hawaii
I'm from arkansas. May I have your email?
Are possibly osage indian too...as was born there too... Extremely hard to track native roots from there.. The government removed them in 1830
thank god for DNA !
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