lol true...the Cherokee werent even a large tribe to start with so how did all these people come from from this small tribe. Ancestry DNA showed me as 33% Native American(Mexica). My great grandmother on my moms side was full blood raramuri or muki ( female.) They are still around. Sadly probably one of the last generations of full blood Raramuri.
When I got my DNA results back from you guys I was crushed because I was always very proud of my Nipmuc heritage and there was none of it on the results. I felt like a part of my identity had been ripped away. Now I know that's not necessarily true. Thank you so much for this video.
dna tests like this arent an exact science. Also, Natives came over here from the other side. Most importantly, you are compared to others who have taken the test. As more natives take the test the more accurate it will become.
My mother’s lineage has always been passed down by verbal history. Names, and specific locations. My ancestry didn’t mention any native (it was a different company), yet most of my relatives on my mother’s side are still in this specific area... and my great grandmother, grandmother, maternal aunt, mother, and myself are all dark. These tests aren’t getting it all right.
Most white Americans just do not have any Native American ancestry. The vast majority of families have not been here long enough for the ancestor to be so far back as to be undetectable. Second, it's unlikely that it would be a male ancestor, because it was most often white men and Native women, as it was considered a fate worse than death for a white woman to be with a Native man back in the day. In the South and East Coast, these blood myths exist to cover up the fact that the ancestor was actually black.
It's even worse with African Americans they almost all say they have Native ancestry but it's actually European. I always get a good laugh from white and black Americans when they tell me(a real native) that they are as well and when asked what tribe 9 times out of 10 they say Cherokee lol
Except that most of the people who are not registered members of a tribe but do have some native American blood are primarily African Americans. This is because in many states, surviving indigenous populations not part of the reservation system were often partially integrated with African American populations. Intermarriage was common. But Caucasian populations did not commonly intermarry with either until the late twentieth century.
I was quite surprised that the OP was actually leaving the possibility that some whites have native that fell below the sample resolution...her own chart shows that at 7 generations back percentage is 1.5% to get down to zero one needs to be at 9 generations. The number of Europeans who have ancestry in the America's that goes back that far are a small population of New Englanders. So if you are European and you claim native ancestry but you know your ancestors don't go back 9 generations or come from New England than they can't have been native at all. "In the South and East Coast, these blood myths exist to cover up the fact that the ancestor was actually black." This is actually quite confirmed by a recent study by 23 and Me where they revealed that the majority of those who self report as European (white) have MORE African admixture than Native admixture. (Kind of ironic and confirms your conclusion.) African Americans mean while have more European admixture than Native (expected). But African Americans on average tend to have MORE Native than European Americans have Native. The paper is fascinating and based on thousands of 23 and Me users...it's a big one with a solid methodology: drive.google.com/file/d/0B9N6z_bRVUMmZGRhZVlhMjJDQzg/view?usp=sharing
Barrio Azteca well i am part Cherokee i spoke with my father his father and his mother. they were Cherokee indians and my family is from ga where that tribe reside. native americans did mate with African slaves at the time not all native indians had slaves but they did mate with some so yea some black folks lie bit at least it's more possible than these white folks ... ironic how they stole my ppl land and now wanna be part native Indian
My father’s grandmother was supposedly “Native American”, and looking at the one picture of her we have, we definitely believed that to be true. Turns out, according to our DNA, she was partially black. I see where the confusion exists. But my mom’s DNA actually had Native American in it, and yet we thought she had none. So you never really know, lol.
The white side of my family always thought one of their people was native, when i got ancestry I found out it was a Portuguese woman with high cheek bones💀I think a lot of the white people got confused like this
Yo J.J how's it going..so look..u do understand that they call that Asian race of people that crossed the Barron str8 and migrated to North America , American Indians correct, but they fail to mention that the copper colored races were already here before that migration...2nd if u look at all the pics created after the European Renaissance, all AI become Spanish looking or Spanish Asian mixed...find pics before that era and there u will find the truth.. even literature written describes the people of this land just like the bible describes Jesus and the descriptions definitely doesn't match that of European educating that we've all been taught!!
Hi there, thanks for stopping by. Unfortunately, current genetic ethnicity research is unable to distinguish Indigenous American tribal affiliation based on the research and technology currently available. Indigenous American tribes are very similar genetically and while there have been a number of advances in genetic ethnicity research in the last several years, research has not developed to a point where tribal affiliation can be credibly determined. However, we are continuing our research and plan to continue updating our genetic ethnicities as the science evolves.
A few months ago I wrote to a lady here on YT about the misunderstandings that can happen when discussing family lore. I specifically used an example in my own family where we thought that we were Dutch. Turns out that we are Pennsylvania Dutch - IE: German. Well, I just got my own DNA test back yesterday and found another funny. My great grandmother was told to be Irish-Indian. Turns out that she was Indian. Just not 'Native American' Indian. Yeah. Her ancestry was from India. (A little bit of research into the East India Trading Company and how many Indian brides were actually brought back to England, and it makes sense.) We've got to realize that we're playing a giant game of 'telephone' that spans hundreds of years. Throw in speculation, unregistered adoptions, the occasional cuckold or rape and nobody really knows who their ancestors were.
think of the dna from each of your grands like a window with four panes in it. Each grand gives you one of their four panes which is 25% of their old window, and is 25% of your new window. These 4 panes, each from a different window, now make your own unique window. You do not get the 3 leftover panes of a grand's window, you only get one pane of it. The rest of their window might go to some other relative or to noone, including you.
+Samuel Poe it doesnt work like that. you get half of random dna from your parents each and it recombines together in yours. so the distribution can be random in mixed people
I recently took an ancestry DNA test that revealed I am 19% native american. My dad always told me my grandfather was Yaqui from Mexico. If I am not a full 25% native american is it still possible that my grandfather was 100% native american? Thanks for the video.
Interesting on how we receive our own unique DNA mix. There is a possibility that one sibling may have Native American DNA and the other sibling in the same family may not.
As a black American, we were also told that our great great grandmother was full blooded Native American. My sister did the dna test and she came back with 3% Native American ancestry. I don’t think there’s anything with acknowledging it or being proud of it because, it’s a part of us. However, we are even more excited about our majority african ancestry that we’ve always identified with.
If your sister was 3% and the test did not evaluate the 23rd chrome your sister could really be 8%. That would make your mother 16 to 20%. Your grandmother 32 to 40% and your great grandmother 70 to 90% Native American which is considered full blood. So your parents and grandparent was not lying when they said a great grandparent was of Native American heritage.
Thank you so much for explaining this situation with Native American DNA. A funny and perplexing situation I have run across in researching my husbands's DNA and genealogy is this: My first husband, whom I married in 1967, in NY, was obviously Caucasian (white skin, redish hair, blue eyes). He has three children by a previous marriage. Two of his children were fair, but the third had much darker coloring, black hair, and brown eyes. My husband had a picture of his Greatgrandmother which had been passed down through his family which showed an American Indian woman, which explained the different coloring that showed up in his son. Husband died in 1994. I didn't even date for 23 years, during which time I moved to SC.. In 2017 I found myself drawn to another man. He was an African-American who also claimed that his Grandmother was Native American. He was lighter skin than his other relatives and had even been given the nick name "Red" in his college years. He also had a photo of his Grandmother.....THE EXACT SAME PHOTO THAT HUSBAND #1 HAD!!!
WOW, THAT'S SURPRISELY RARE THAT THIS WOULD HAPPEN AGAIN. THEY WERE RELATIVES AND DIDN'T EVEN KNOW AT ALL. I'M ADOPTED AND I DID THIS TEST TO FIND OUT ABOUT MY HISTORY ON BOTH SIDES OF MY FAMILY. MOTHER AND FATHER'S SIDE. I'M EXCITED TO FIND OUT. I ALSO GOT TO KNOW MORE ABOUT HEALTH TRAITS.
I took the Ancestry test and my results were 94% European and 6% Indigenous American. I was not expecting to have any Indigenous American and would never claim to be Native.
@@YouGotOptions2, DNA tests cannot determine Native American ancestors because they don't give their DNA to public databases. No tribe accepts DNA, it's by documentation only. Very rarely do they use DNA and it's only to determine parentage.
I’m half Mexican and when I took the ancestry dna test it said I was 17% Native American with a lot of French and spanish ancestry which makes sense I wasn’t surprised at all
My grandmother is 3/4 Native American and was born on an Indian reservation in New Mexico. She has a reservation number instead of a birth certificate. My grandfather on that same side is also 1/2 Native American and 1/2 German. We have genealogy going back generations and my 23andMe showed nothing. They said it was because there aren’t enough people with that dna getting the test done.
No one was adopted. I’ve seen the reservation number, and I’ve talked to organizations within the Native American community. The family tree is accurate. My grandfather on my father’s side was adopted but already knew that.
If anyone knows or thinks they have blood of a certain Tribe and want to enroll into that tribe, you can contact that Tribe, the regional BIA offices or departments that track the dawes rolls to find Native family or ancestors, they have extensive records of Native families going back nearly 200 years. Keep in mind that you will also need your non-native family records too because Tribes need most of your family tree to determine blood quantum, if you can't provide a detailed family tree of your non-native side, these Tribes will consider your records incomplete. Most Tribes require 1/4 blood quantum, some have a more strict blood quantum limits. Some Tribes have a very generous qualifications to be a citizen such as the Five Civilized Tribes (Cherokee, Choctaw, Chickasaw, Creek & Seminole) that only requires at least one or a few family members on your family tree to be on the Dawes Rolls.
I actually used Ancestry DNA to check mine. My Grandfather told me his mother was full blooded Cherokee. No one ever talked about it, which was normal in those days. Names were changed. The only reason he told me was because I was talking about native blood on my mother's side. He was my paternal grandfather. It seemed to me that I should have have more than showed up and needless to say I was a bit stunned that I only had two blood lines which was European and only 8% Indigenous American. I'm sure there's more but this video does explain a lot.
It is possible your grandfather's mother was half Native, not full blooded, but least you have some Native ancestry unlike a lot of others who make the claim.
Lol. The people working at 23andMe and Ancestry are just way too nice to say what's really going on: the overwhelming majority of people who claim to have distant Native American ancestry actually, genetically, do not have any indigenous DNA in their genome, and that is often due to "$5 Indians" and/or the novelty of claiming your great-great-great grandmother was BFFs with Pocahontas. This is also true for those in my state of Oklahoma who claim to be 1/164th Tribe X. It's so wild to me that super, translucent white people will call themselves Native despite not being connected to tribal customs apart from that little card and despite being paper white with blonde hair and baby blue eyes. LOL. As the child of a Mexican-American man and a very white caucasian woman, almost 30% of my DNA is of Native American; and pretty much all my NA-DNA is traced to Mexico (likely descendents of the Aztec, Maya, or other indigenous Mexicans). Lol. But, like all gueritos, my mother SWEARS her great grandmother was full or at least half Chickasaw. No, sis. I don't think so. 😂 I don't have patience for any more baby powder-complected people thinking being 1/472nd Native American makes them a person of color or changes the fact that their genome is 98+% European.
Blake Gill Puente I really like what you had to say and I concur a lot of people like to forget that the copper color Aboriginal of this land that were more so my complexion we're not allowed to claim their tribal rights they were only allowed to sign black which has no constitutional value and means nothing in law and traces back to know Nation/ nationality at all... so that left my other lighter tone Aboriginal people to only mate with themselves and the Europeans who are forcing their way into the tribes and force marrying and raping their way into the tribes as a way to legitimize the fraud they committed by signing the Dawes rolls in the first place.... which is why there are almost no dark-complected aborigine then/now... great-grandmother n grand mother are full blood in Muskogee my father father what's Blackfoot and Muskogee due to the Trail of Tears a lot of tribes started breeding with one another yet on the birth certificate there listed as negro and on mine I'm listed as black again no nationality whatsoever... it is sad to have your heritage stolen and then to see people like her claim it... 😢
Ikr it’s completely absurd. I knew a white girl who looked like Barbie. Super straight golden blonde hair, baby blue eyes and pale skin that burned red. She claimed her grandmother was full blood native... I don’t understand why they do this. Guess they think it makes them more interesting.
You cannot go by the color of skin. Look at me. I'm very white and redheaded. My grandmother was Cherokee. ( my mothers mother) I got none of the resemblance. My cousins and other family members do. P.s I do not identify as indian although it matter of factly shines through per my DNA.
Omg yesss I just wrote a response on this same thing then I just saw yours!!! Exactly 😂 $5 dollar Indian. Dawes act. Choctaw DNA in me . I will be taking my test soon
Thank you so much for explaining this!! My Step-sisters mother was born on the Winnebago Reservation in Northeastern Nebraska, and she was always told tales that her Grandparents performed as stunt riders in Wild West Shows. After having Melanie's DNA processed, she shows no Native American, ZILCH! However people that she matches with on Ancestry do have Native American ancestry. Explaining how "The Cards are Shuffled" made a lot of sense! Time to get her brother tested!
James E. Ogilvy Barbra Bush is a $5 Indian and if you believe her you might be a $5 Indian also get an unabridged dictionary or go read the thief Columbus’ journal the discerption gave wasn’t pale skin or light skin it was copper so that makes Bush a lie
My mom’s sister showed Native American DNA, but my mom didn’t. When I tell people that I descended from a Native American, people show hostility and they yell at me that I am confused until I met a friend, African American who told me that I do have something about me that is Native American. She told me that I have high cheekbones. People tell me that my eyes are dark. They are dark for someone who is forty percent Irish. I think that I understand why no Native American showed up in my DNA, but that doesn’t mean that I can’t have any Native American traits. My dad is one hundred percent Ashkenazie Jew and it turns out that I am 49% Ashkenazim. My friends say that I don’t look Jewish, but I certainly believe that I look mostly Jewish. I mean that I have the stereotypical look of a Jew. Especially my siblings have large noses and native Americans have smaller noses. On my mom’s side, her grandfather was dark complected man with dark hair, but his eyes were blue. His father was a German immigrant and his mother was supposedly half Native American which means that I don’t claim enough for it to show up. Although the English man who married the Native American woman from my family, the English shows up in my DNA, which isn’t fair. My maternal grandfather was supposedly mostly Irish which is why I don’t have olive skin like my dad and great grandfather. I see my grandfather as more looking Scandinavian than Irish. All my life, I thought that I was one fourth English, but I was so wrong. So tell me narrator, why does my aunt Justina have Native American DNA and my mom doesn’t? My great great grandmother dressed like a white woman, but she could definitely pass for Native American. Most likely we descended from an Abenaki woman. So why does my aunt show Native American DNA? I am fine without Native American DNA because I love having mostly Ashkenazim DNA. I am a proud Jewish woman. I love being Jewish. We have some things in common with native Americans. We were persecuted in a similar way. We both had a similar amount of people get killed in our Holocausts. Seriously love being Jewish. Sometimes confused as being mixed, but I identify as being white.
My brother tested with Ancestry and did not show any Native American Ancestry. One thing you did not mention (which I believe is because Ancestry does not offer Y-DNA testing) is Y-DNA testing. My brother tested his Y-DNA at FTDNA (Family Tree DNA) and his Y-Haplotype is Q-M3, a male Native American Haplogroup. We had no idea that we had Native American ancestry in our ancestral surnamed line until we got the Y-DNA results.
Judy Dover wow coooool congratulations on being 1% Native American enjoy bragging about that and pissing people and if you don't say how Native American you are you still are going piss people off by claiming your Native American while you look white ass fuck
My dad took one of these tests many years ago and it was obvious it was not accurate. I'm a quadruplet and even with us quads it shows some differences. I grew up multi-cultural, including an enrolled member. I have at least one ancestor from 4/5 Civilized Tribes, mostly Choctaw and Chickasaw. I know my lineage to the Creek and Cherokee (Ridge for the Cherokee). We grew up with intelligent and degreed people in the family who spoke many languages by way of their heritage as well as being learned through polyglotism. I grew up speaking Choctaw, Chickasaw (and 2 dead Indigenous languages) but only know some words in Cherokee and Creek. We were taught many European languages including French, Italian, Spanish, German, English, Romanian and more. Even though my nephews, nieces, great nephews and nieces are of less "Indian" blood, they are enrolled as citizens and being brought up as "Indian". They are speaking Choctaw fluently and Chickasaw pretty well. They are also brought up speaking Spanish, English, and some Italian and French. DNA tests don't show these things I'm talking about. We also have the 4 roots teeth and much more to our ancestry.
Teeth have roots. It is taught that molars have two or three roots. But we have four roots because of the Indigenous American ancestry. Look up something like how many roots do teeth have?@@patriciajrs46
My dad's family told me that my great great grandmother was part Akwesasne Mohawk from Canada. I inherited no Mohawk DNA, instead my DNA percentages are: 54% NorthEastern Europe and English, 16% Scottish, 14% Irish, 5% Basque, 4% Welsh 2% Spanish, 2% Benin and Togo(West Africa) , 1% Mali(West Africa), 1% Senegal( West Africa), 1% Germanic Europe(some Ashkenazi Jew ancestry from Bavaria. My father's family DOES have members who I actually know are relatives, and most of them have very small percentages of indigenous American, about anywhere from 1-5%. There is one member who lives in Quebec, Canada, who has 40% Indigenous American DNA. The relatives who have very little DNA are a generation or two above me, and my great grandma wasn't full Akwesasne, so I'm guessing that probably wasn't enough Indigenous American DNA to be passed down to me.
My grandmother told me that my great grandpa ( her dad) was Cherokee and Sioux, but her birth certificate said he was "Caucasian" . I asked my Native American art history professor about this as she was Navajo and said she wouldn't mind if anyone needed help proving Native American ancestry. The professor said that since my grandma was born in 1931 in the South that interracial marriage was illegal, so my great grandmother had possibly lied on the birth certificate as both her and my great grandfather would have been arrested because of the Jim Crow laws of the time.
Census durant roll of 1906 lists my great grandmother as wht. It was a roll for native americans only and all others had an "I" next to their names. They wrote white because she said she was white. Some didn't want that "shameful" association and just wanted to assimilate. Yet her granddaughter, my mother, was shipped off to an Indian school every year eighty miles from her home.
My family story includes Native American ancestry. Our grandfather’s grandfather was supposedly half Native American and a law officer on a reservation in Oklahoma, the son of another law officer and a Native American woman. That is what our family story says. Historical records do link his family back and his unique name is that of a sheriff in Oklahoma territory. We cannot find his name on any records older than those. None of my generation has Native American showing up in our DNA, I wish we had been able to test my grandfather. Thank you for this information! Very helpful
Hi there, thanks for stopping by. We know researching Native American ancestors can be tricky, we have an article on our support site with some research tips that may be of some help. support.ancestry.com/s/article/Researching-Native-American-Ancestors?language=en_US. Best of luck with your research!
I’ve been told my whole life that “we’re spainish” growing up. Strangers would assume I was a Native American because of my long straight jet black hair and my large nose. I took a DNA test and it states that I’m 48% . I would just like to know more of my ancestors
Chante Bacon most native americans ,real ones, roll their eyes at people like her claiming native american.. in actuality the myth of being native american actually meant black african american this myth came about to cover up the fact that they are actually african american descent.
Thank you so much....I found this video to be quite helpful. My Native American DNA did show up in my AncestryDNA results but not in my Uncle and my Sister. This video helps me understand so much more than I did before. Thank you !
Ancestry does not test all of your DNA. GEDmatch does. You should upload your DNA to GEDmatch. We know my wife is Cherokee. Ancestry has her at 2% Native American (NA). GEDmatch has her at 3.42%. Ancestry said I have 0% NA. GEDmatch said I have 1.15% NA. Use GEDmatch.
Doesn’t seem to be many videos online with natives and African mixed ancestry. Which I find quite odd when we know the relationships that natives had with African and Scottish both being high in number. It seems as though if you did not mix with a European you can’t claim your mixed ancestry
Credin Animations FIRST BECAUSE NATIVE AMERICANS ARE AWESOME SECOND THEY'RE SEEN AS EXOTIC THIRD MOST PEOPLE ESPECIALLY BLACKS DON'T WANT TO ADMIT AND HAVE A HARD TIME DEALING WITH THEIR EUROPEAN ANCESTRY.
easy - because we are in America, and it gives us a deeper connection to our country. Being a country of immigrants, it means something to the soul. In my case, i'm 4% Native American, 2% East Asian. So 6% is a lot when you don't have a direct relative (this could mean my great-great grandparent was full-blooded; or, in my case, have two great-great's who were 50% [one of mine is confirmed]).
Through ancestry, I found out that I am 4% Native American. I never really believed any of the stories that my family told to me while growing up. Now that I found out that I do have Native American ancestors, I could really care less. Also, as stated in the video, just because you have similar physical features, doesn’t mean you have recent Native American ancestry. Most of my family has caramel colored skin, sharp facial features, dark straight hair and can potentially pass as Natives, but we are just a thorough mix of African black and white Europeans. Also, I have talked to a few actual Natives in the past about people claiming tribal ancestry, many really don’t seem to like it.
Tantibus Draws actually that's partially true the rest of the truth is the Aboriginal people that you call Native Americans that look like me there were darker Coppertone would not allowed to register on the Dawes rolls and claim their proper ancestry... we were only allowed to check black therefore when I will try this get made even one another they came out looking a particular Geno typical way because the dark members of the tribes were not allowed to claim their ancestry
This makes sense.I had always heard that we had Native American heritage but didn't know for sure.I decided to start looking into our family tree to see if i could find anything that would lead to this Native American tale.I subscribed to Ancestry and found that it was true.I found my Grt Grandparents on the Indian Dawes Rolls(they lived in Oklahoma) and the application applying for free land in Oklahoma also on a 1900 oklahoma indian territory cencus listing them as Chickasaw.The Rolls listed her as 1/32 Chickasaw and my Grandfather as Chickasaw by marriage.Going up my tree i found where the Native American came from.MY Grt Grandmother's ( on dawes rolls) 3rd grt Grandmother was full blooded Chickasaw her name was Ishtanaha from Miss,she married a Irish man. My sister had a DNA test done through Ancestry and this is the results..(remember the full blood chickasaw is six generations up the tree and this line never married back into the Native American. Native American-1% Europe -98% Great Britain-56% Ireland-17% Scandinavia-10% Europe West-9% Iberian Peninsul-2% Finland/Northwest Russia-2% Europe East-1%.I think i left some % of something out but this is a good example of what this video is saying.We have since then proved our chickasaw heritage and become Chickasaw tribal members.Thanks Ancestry for helping me prove my native american heritage,without you it would have been alot harder.Names were provided,cousins were found and pictures exchanged.I even found my Native American ancestors that were removed from Miss to Oklahoma.Thanks again Ancestry!!!!
I am Asian. It's amazing how many white people I know claim to have Native American ancestry even though you cannot see a trace on them or their family members. I mean, everyone in their family are pale-skinned, blue eyes, blonde hair. Even facial features, not a single feature that would give away as Native American.
+Laarni Shaner I think back in the day claiming/telling a child they had native American ancestry was a convenient way of disguising they had a black (for white people) or white (for black people) ancestor. Black women's bodies were not their own. They could not legally be raped and had no recourse against unwanted sexual advances. It's easier to tell a child/grandchild there's a Cherokee grandmother than grandma or great grandma was raped by her owner or random white man. And there's many a white family hiding a black great, great, great grandparent for social reasons in a racist society.
i m asian too lol my parents are from lebanon but i don't look arab or asian i look european whereas my familly is av ery old lebanese one and my dna proves it too
Thanks for sharing your results, mr. bird. Were you surprised with any of your ethnicity estimates? We hope you'll take time to learn about these regions and your ancestors who lived in these parts of the world. Please let us know what else you learn as you add to your family tree.
I received my husband's Ancestry DNA results this week and it was a bit confusing. He had previously been tested by another company that said he was 8% Native American but, the Ancestry DNA results came back with 0%. I understand how DNA works. I called Ancestry last night and they referred me to this video and an article about Native American DNA. As I suspected it doesn't really apply to the issue concerning my husband's DNA. We know that he had Native American ancestry in his family history and the first test definitely confirmed that information. My question is why did it not show up on Ancestry's test? This isn't a question of "if" he has Native American DNA because we already know this from a previous test. Has anyone else had a difference in results from different testing companies? Thanks!
Ancestry does not test all of your DNA. GEDmatch does. You should upload your DNA to GEDmatch. We know my wife is Cherokee. Ancestry has her at 2% Native American (NA). GEDmatch has her at 3.42%. Ancestry said I have 0% NA. GEDmatch said I have 1.15% NA. Use GEDmatch.
FYI, if you're researching French Canadian North American First Nations backgrounds, the Canadian archives are good about identifying some people in the historical family tree records as Metis, which at least offers a non-genetic clue. As this video shows, a NA ancestor 6 generations back will only show up as 1.5% NA for the subject (person being tested). For French Canadian history, FN connections may go back 10-15 generations and will not show up in DNA tests.
Certain genetic mutations started in northern and northeastern China (Manchuria), and started stretching along with patterns in Siberia; and I suppose that's where they became different.
When you say "Blacks say," that sounds as if you are including every single Black person in America. Which is so far from the truth. lol Yes, I am Black, and I am American, but do I believe that Black people as a whole are the original Natives to the Americas? Heck to the no.
DontTreadOnMe IwontTreadOnYou well if you look at america and its people 5000 years ago itll be native but today its mixed n white. Just like 5000 years ago in Eygpt it was black but now its what.. The people changed over time from death to wars to invasions. Just like america. NA say whites invaded n stole land.. Same in Egypt. The people were black.
This is a great Podcast. I have a small portion of Native American DNA. I’ve gone through a large portion of my DNA matches and searched for others with Native American Ancestry. This has help me identify my ancestral line that the Native American Ancestry is associated with as 99.99 % of those with Native American Ancestry also descend from this line. Thank you for the Podcast!
Thank you for explaining this, I have been wondering about the portions of inheritance. My dad had eight siblings, and we have been trying to wrap our minds around several of my aunt's results. You explained it well
So in my family everybody thought my great great grandmother on my moms side was Native American she had straight long black hair and olive skin, turns out she’s actually Portuguese! And we found this out because one of our family members found some old letters that she wrote a long long time ago and she talked about being Portuguese and how she was very proud to be a Portuguese woman we were completely blown away. Not to mention this totally explains why I had 7% Iberian peninsula in my ancestry results.
*In Angola, West-Southern Africa, we have plenty of Native American cases of Native American DNA Ancestry (Genetic Marks) since 1530….,,(since XVI century, from North, Central and South Américas….!!!*
I showed no Native American in any standard autosomal test,and we sure had a persistent "Cherokee" story , which most of us dismissed as family folklore.After uploading our DNA for more deep Ancestry testing,we found it.Then Ancestry DNA truthlines helped us find our distant Native ancestor! :) Don't give up,and thank you Ancestry!
Same. I kept getting West Asian at around 4% 1.8% Spanish and less than 1% Native American and West African. I have relatives in CNO and the Qualla Band of the Cherokee Nation. I found my mixed blood ancestor who was born at the Moravian Mission in Spring Place. She married a white man and was allowed to stay. Her grandmother was full blood. Her Father was Edward Adair.
@@oppboyputt Actually the term mulatto originally meant mixed White European and Native American long before it changed by definition to be mixed African and white it can also include actual Native American which in usually referred to as Metis or a combination of all is called Melungeon. Even the Dawes and tribal rolls will say for those of mixed descent will state the ancestry as Native. And white such as French or English or if their ancestor is black it will say black and Native.
Helpful! I'm an amateur enthusiast who helps his friends get started with their research and getting tested. I don't have any N.A. ancestry by story or by DNA results but some of my friends I've helped either had apocryphal stories of that being in their background or when their tests came back it was a significantly lower percentage than what their stories would have suggested. This helps me figure out the right questions to ask when I'm helping somebody and gave me a record trove to check out I didn't know about. Most of my personal research has been so eurocentric I feel like I'm back to square one learning how to do research with these populations. But now I have a better place to start. Thanks!
Ancestry DNA says I'm 1% Native American. It says I'm 98% European and 83% is Great Britain. That's my heritage and that's my culture - not the measly 1% NA. I think its ridiculous to try to claim these tiny fragments as something important to your makeup. When I walk down the street people see a blue eyed, fair haired white guy. My surname is English. That's what I am and I'm perfectly happy with that. Oh, and I do have a sister who thinks she's a Cherokee princess or something with all the Native American art and knick knacks all over her house. Whatever.
my little brother and I are both 15-20% native but that poor boy got ALL the irish genes ahsdljasdhfkagsf he goes outside for ten minutes and gets a nburn while i've never burned in my life. my bf is also 25% asian (filipino specifically) and his little brother, who is 100% white, looks more asian than he does to the average person
My sister in law is Peruvian, her grandmother was full-blooded Quechuan and didn't speak Spanish. Her mother spoke both languages. My sister in law's ancestry results show something like 60% Native American! So the 'native American' really applies to all Americas of the western hemisphere. Not just the indian tribes of the USA boundaries.
We had a family story about my French-Canadian grandfather's grandmother having had some Native American ancestry. We found the person in the 1600s in her tree. I and one of my brothers each got
Michele Mandrioli maybe but it isn't like it matters you're probably just going to piss some of the more stuck up or normal natives by claiming that you're less than 1%
Or, vs. DNA, obtain vital records, find your ancestor on the Dawes and apply (or not) to your tribe. DNA results do not allow membership (blue card and CDIB). Keep in mind also, some tribes adopted into the tribe, those were not Native American. Tradition, once adopted, you were blood. However, government does require vital records. My ancestors are on the Dawes, walked the Trail of Tears, and their blood degree shows on their records. Yes, some maybe on the Dawes that aren't, but degree would be stated. Also note, we adopted from other tribes.
I’ve always wondered what I could do as far as having a way to apply for a tribe. I have found my great great grandmother and great great great grandparents on the Dawes Roll. They came to Tennessee via Trail of Tears from South Dakota.
Since my mother always said her great grandmother was full blooded Canadian Indian, j never understood why it didn't show up on my DNA. Thank you for explaining this!.
I was told I had a great grandmother who was Native American but through research I found out she was a step great grandmother which explained why I could not find any family on the Dawes Rolls. Her last name was Rattling Gourd which was cool.
I got my DNA done through you folks.... no Native showed up. However, I had my results analyzed by several other companies, and the Native connection DID show up, albeit, very little. We had NO stories in our family, of Native great, great grand parents or anything like that... but when I did my paper trail research, I found a possible connection to Natives... but still not 100% sure where it came from. Also detected by other DNA companies, was Native DNA from Greenland; again, very little, but I suspect it came by way of my Norse connection, that settled there.
I'm half English half American, born and raised in England. I grew up being told that my mum has Native American ancestry, even specifying that it was Blackfeet. Whilst she could never specify how far back our Native American ancestor was, I never doubted the family story simply because she, and especially my grandma, looked Native American. When I was a child I didn't even know what Native American features were (being an English kid) but I knew my mum's side of the family didn't look white. I look as white as can be, but when my brother was born he had even darker skin than my mum. As a young adult now with plenty of access to the internet, my conviction that there was Native ancestry was strengthened when I saw what mixed Native people look like. I'd never seen so many people that looked like my mum and brother before. Added with the fact that my mum had been presumed Native by people she'd met, I assumed that my belief was valid. Because I was curious about my ancestry in general, I did an Ancestry test a few years back and there was 0% Native. I wasn't too surprised, because I haven't inherited any traits that would indicate ancestry anything other than European. But then my mum did an ancestry test and what she'd get? 0% Native. Not only that, but she got 100% Northern European. Though, in Ancestry's most recent update, both our results changed. My mum had 2% Southern Italian and myself has 1%. This is the best explanation for my mum's and brother's appearance, and this video has made me believe it more so when it was said that Mediterranean appearances often can get mixed up with Native American. Funnily enough, my mum and my grandma still look more Native than Southern Italian, but race is just a collection of features and ultimately anyone can end up looking like another race with the right mix. (I can definitely see the Southern Italian in my brother now though.) I'm still curious about where the Blackfeet rumour came from, but it could be as simple as one generation assuming they have Native Ancestry because of their appearance and guessing at any old tribe closest to their area and passing it off as fact. Anyway, I just find it fascinating how often this apparently happens. I didn't even search for this video, it was in my reccomedations, and I'm glad to know it isn't just my family that have been claiming heritage unfounded 😅 😂
My siblings and I were always told our paternal grandmother was 100% Muskogee ,and she looked the part. I got my dna results last week. We're IRISH !!! Straight out of Belfast!!😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣
It's funny that people think that olive skin and dark hair and "high cheekbones" makes one look Native American. That just ends up with people who look Italian or whatever other pseudo ethnicity that has been used to substitute and re image. Native Americans in westerns . Native Americans that have not been admixtured look .... basically to people that have never met full blooded Indeginious people before, Asian. Specifically South East Asian to North East Asian. Now that there are so many Native American vloggers from the Amazon up through to the Southwest USA, Mexico, South America, and Alaska etc, you can see that for yourselves. They are taking the DNA tests and the results show 100% Native ancestry. Every time I go to Asia I'm mistaken for being either half Asian or Asian. But I'm never told I look Italian. I'm taking about genetics not tribal membership. Many tribes have members that are not Native American geneticaly but tribal members none the less. Due to Mexico being the center of the Spanish Empire, many Filipinos have Native ancestry, many Mongolian UA-camrs have reported Native ancestry as well and that's probably because of the extensive area that Native peopled lived in and back migration from the Americas to Asia ( Siberia is very close to the Americas, and Eastern Siberia is actually part of the North American tectonic plate). Native Americans are also turning up with East Asian DNA. The two groups are very close genetically and in physical appearance.
As of January 2015, the U.S. Federal government recognized 566 tribes (now 567 with the Pamunkey in Virginia), not thousands. There are still a significant number of state-recognized tribes across the country, many of which are not in the western portions of the United States. The Powhatan Confederacy wasn't located in what is now known as Oklahoma.
I wasn't speaking of the Patawomomeck. I used the Pamunkey because they are more familiar to me; also, they had recently received Federal recognition. No disrespect intended to the Patawomeck. Many Eastern Woodlands tribes did what they must to survive, such as disassociating themselves. It is one reason why it is difficult to find some of the documentation. Another of those reasons was the practice of arbitrary designation by officials. My ancestors who were living off the reservation were labeled based on the assumptions/wishes of others.
You are a great teacher ! You did a nice job explaining the DNA apportionment. This is interesting to me, because I have no idea who my Biological Mother was. My Biological father was drifter and had about 3 children....all out of wedlock. I was adopted and later found my Biological Father...(Frank Griffin). He was about 2/3 Irish, but he refused to tell me who my Mother was. My DNA panel showed 30% Irish, 26% Scandinavian, 25% British. The rest included a mixture of Eastern European, including a "Trace" of Middle Eastern. I'm tall thin, with Blue eyes and when I was young, I had thick Blond Hair. So, my assumption is that whoever my Mother was, she was Scandinavian with Eastern European Genes. We have no idea where the trace Middle Eastern DNA came from. Thank you, for your GREAT presentation. (Richard H. Pratt, Ph.D., Ltd. )
Thank you, Richard. Using your AncestryDNA Match list, you should be able to figure out the identity of your biological mother. When you look at that list, how many 3rd cousin (or closer) matches do you have?
Hmmm...I don't seem to have those. Ancestry DNA match list ? All I have is the pi chart with the %tage distribution of the nationalities. How do I get that information....I presume it's on file somewhere at Ancestry ?
Very informative and helpful info. I must also add that DNA ancestry results that do show significant Native American ancestry percentages do not necessary mean that a person is descended from a US American Indian nation. A possibly exists that the person could be descended from a Canadian First Nations aborigine or a latino/hispanic ancestor who was of predominately Indigenous American heritage from Mexico or elsewhere in Latin America. For example, I am half African American and half Venezuelan and my DNA results showed 16% Native American ancestry. I know for certain that I inherited none of it from my African American side. One must do independent family genealogy research in conjunction with DNA ancestry in order to fully verify true American Indian heritage since AncestryDNA currently cannot distinguish between Native Americans in the US and indigenous people in Latin American countries as well as Canadian First Nations.
What about the Sami people of northern Finland, Norway and Sweden? Would they have the Native American Ancestry DNA. I think they are somewhat related. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sami_history
True. My sister in law is Peruvian, her grandmother was full-blooded Quechuan and didn't speak Spanish. Her mother spoke both languages. My sister in law's ancestry results show something like 60% Native American! So the 'native' really applies to the Americas of the western hemisphere.
The mythical Native American ancestor does seem very widespread. Given the history of how they were treated by governments, it's curious how having this in a family tree seems almost to give some borrowed legitimacy or nobility, doesn't it? I did a tree for a friend recently who also had this legend, but zero facts, and in fact both maternal and paternal sides were pretty well documented back to the old countries, even with lurid family stories that I was able to verify, zero trace of NA ancestry. In watching the various US and Brit shows like who do you think you are and the PBS program, you note all the celebrities with these myths--and that's what it turns out to be most of the time--myth. I wonder what Native Americans think about this weirdness.
+Tanya Juli Please understand that the subjugation of the Native American people of the current United States wasn't merely moving them out west somewhere and separating them from the rest of society. A century of suppression of documentation was so successful that most people commenting here will say, "Oh, what a silly myth to believe!"
I can tell you Rambo Mohawk that that is not the case for many tribes. The hopi for example. In some tribes, if your mother was not a member of the tribe, neither are you. Other tribes are extremely picky about who they consider tribal members or not whether money is involved or not.
In my opinion, I believe that myths and stories told by Non-natives( Those who claim to be, but really arent) give them a sence of "immunity" to the history atrocities done to Native Americans. I have heard the "Cherokee Princess" story over and over living in Oklahoma. It is sad, but at the same time it tells alot about how they think. They want people to see them as someone who's family suffered under the US government. They have no connections like benefits, healthcare, or profit sharing like a tribal member would get; but having a connection like a story gives them a sence of "entitlement". I am 3/16ths Fort Sill Apache. I would be considered white to everyone ( even myself), but I grew up being part of the tribe and its customs. Both of my maternal great grandparwnts were held as prisoners of war with Geronimo here in Lawton-Fort Sill, Oklahoma. I was raised to remember the times of hardship my family faced. Before being taken as prisoners, we had about 500 people in our "tribe" (The Chiricahua- Warm Springs Apache). The US government didnt realize that my ancestors were from different "bands", and still sent us all together by rail to St. Augustine, Florida and then to Mount Vernon, Alabama. Both times we were locked up in cells and shackles. After being incarcerated for 23 years in nasty conditions our tribe was finally released in 1915 at Fort Sill. At the time of release we only had 81 members, and we were no longer big enough to be considered a tribe. It wasnt until 1973? the Fort Sill Apaches were federally recognized as an official tribe. My great uncle Allan Haozous was the first Fort Sill Apache to be born outside of prison, and he went on to become Oklahoma's first cultural ambassador. I know most of my tribal history, and the furthes I can trace back is into the mid-1800s. That is with historical documentation. My great grandfathe Sam Haozous was the grandson of Mangas Coloradas, the first Warm Springs Apache leader to sign a treaty with America during the gold rush in Arizona. He rode with Geronimo in the Apache Wars against the US. No myths in my family, but I understand why some wish there were. And by the way, Geronimo never jumped from any cliff in Oklahoma. By the time he was transfered to OK from Alabama in 1896, he was already in his 70s... Sorry to dissapoint lol.
I have tried to explain this to my family. We have records of an Algonquin ancestor on my mother's side and an Iroquois on my father's side. That's only two people in my ancestry that were native and that was a loooooong time ago. The chances of that showing up if there hadn't been any other known native DNA that entered my genome is practically nonexistent. I mean all humans are related to each other if we go far enough back.
That’s why there’s only one race and that’s why we can always prorate procreate with each other that’s scientifically proves we are one race with many tribes in ethnicities that being said you wouldn’t exist without each and everyone of your ancestors but your dad is from the Iroquois that’s crazy he was a cannibal
I have family records that include my great grandfather was half Cherokee. This record is an interview for membership in the Dawes Rolls. My grandfather, George Washington Hicks, claims his father is white and his mother was full blood Cherokee. Your explaination made more sense than anything I have read. I do not show any American Indian in my DNA, however my sister shows 2% of Indian blood. As a family, we always listened to the stories of our Native blood. And now I have records to back it up. Thank you.
Went to the archives but could not find interview records. My gmother interviewed and the story goes she was too distant. I’d like to see the interview records. How?
Maybe bc Dawes rolls was made by whte ppl to lie about their race and be labeled native for land… you’re whte and so is your sister f that 2% blood pls
Thank you very much! I'm thinking in our case, they claimed Cherokee ancestry to hide the fact they had African ancestry. My results showed African ancestry and most of my dad's side came from Appalachia (TN and NC) so it's likely they tried to hide it especially given the time and place.
I remember reading an article regarding what you are saying about 10 (or more) years ago. It spoke about how some AA's & mixed couples pretended that the AA partner was Native American because they felt it would be much easier accepted. They explain that this is the reason why so many AA's think that they are part Native American when they are not. Now some people took the pretending in a different direction because when they got here they were not aware that what they were pretending to be didn't have it good here either. I met a elderly woman about 15 years ago who told me she met her sailor husband in Puerto Rico. He was a southerner & felt that she would not be accepted down there so they decided to tell everyone that she is Italian. I also knew a dark skin Panamanian family and a dark skin Dominican Family who pretended to be African-American because when their families came here 60-70 years ago they felt they would be easier accepted if they were AA instead of Latinos.
OK ... Now, I do believe I understood the explanation but - that raises a question. On some of the things I've seen where people were posting their results - (from whatever DNA Testing Organization) - they had mention of Neanderthal DNA. If some Native American DNA is to far back to be detected - how is Neanderthal DNA NOT to far back to be detected? .
I wanted to take this test but am seriously doubting it, since they group all American ethnicities into one category. South America itself has an incredibly vast variety of indigenous ethnicities that if I get that background check only to be labelled "native american" I would feel like they're telling me the obvious and are over simplifying a result that deserves to be expanded and studied. Not taking the test until they include the other 2/3 of a continent they neglected to take into account which is central and south america. That is so typical.
+ThatOnePerson Our Native American reference panel includes people from all Americas. As new information becomes available that allows scientists to distinguish between different populations, we will update the ethnicity estimates for our users.
Ancestry Thank you for your answer, as I'm really interested in taking the test, but the way the information is expressed on the page makes people believe that the result "native american" could mean anything, from Chippawa to Muisca and everything in between. For example, where can I see a more detailed listing of the possible results within the "native american" spectrum? And could the results we get now be updated once the scientific data is greater?
+ThatOnePerson I think the misconception is that there is only one native American tribe but there were several. Some came from Asia through Alaska Canada into America and Some came by boat by the South Pacific. The ones who came by boat were here longer. The tests are accurate but it is the tribe of native American you have to relate to.
+ThatOnePerson Yes. As our scientists are able to update the ethnicity estimates your results will be updated automatically. No need to retake the test. (Crista)
+HairH2O The vast majority of NA DNA is common - with no distinguishing markers. However, many who take the test and have NA DNA that shows up ALSO have Eastern Asian or Polynesian or some other ethnicity as part of their ethnic mix that when combined with the NA finding, allow them to distinguish. (Crista)
Ancestry and DNA is still a relatively new and fascinating field. As time progresses and more people are tested I think it will become more accurate. Your explanation was truly easy to understand. Sadly there are so many of us in these last few generations that do not have accurate birth certificates, marriage and remarriage and so much else pulls us away from our roots.
I have lots of Native American in me. My dad side Paternal grandpa: Jicarilla & Chiricahua APACHE (NEW MEXICO & COLORADO) Paternal grandma: NAVAJO & HOPI. (ARIZONA) Maternal grandpa: O’ODHAM & HUICHOL (SONORA DESERT) Maternal grandmother: AFRICAN & EUROPEAN born in (Nayarit Mexico)
+Lauren Nelson It is the current way that Ancestry DNA now labels all Indigenous American ancestry detected as Native American. When the company began ancestry tests, they divided Indigenous American DNA between Native North American and Native South American. Ancestry dna companies like 23andme and Ancestry DNA will tell you that they don't have samples from a variety of Indigenous American groups in North and South America to be able to further break down any individuals Native ancestry and connect it to a specific country must less tribe or Native nation.
+Lauren Nelson The indigenous Mexicans *were* Indians, much like ones that populated the rest of N. America. Modern Mexicans are a mix of Spanish/Indian, some more or less than others. That's why some Mexicans are very Indian-like in appearance and others look western European. Many, a combination of both. So, a modern day Mexican or Mexican-American would likely gets results indicating they are Indian and W. European mix.
I haven't received my DNA results yet, but my father said his father tried to get land rights in Oklahoma, but couldn't prove he was part Indian (He was dark-skinned, high cheeks bones, and dark eyes as was my father). On my mother's side, we had an ancestor who was reportedly on the Trail of Tears. My grandmother lived on an Indian reservation in Oklahoma. I have dark skin, brown eyes and dark brown hair. My sibling is light-skinned and blue eyed. My children are both light-skinned and one had green eyes, the other brown eyes. It will be interesting to see if I inherited any Native American DNA.
Hi Bonnie and thanks for reaching out to us. We are eager to address your unexpected results and hopefully clear up any confusion. Remember AncestryDNA ethnicity estimates are based on available data. Ancestry uses established baseline ethnicities taken from living people with verified roots in a particular area. This is otherwise known as our reference panel. We calculate your ethnicity estimate by comparing your DNA to this reference panel made up of DNA samples from over 68,000 people, representing 84 different global regions and over 1,800 communities. Genetic inheritance is also completely random and so while we each inherit 50% of our fathers DNA and 50% of our mothers DNA, we do not get an equal split of their DNA. It's important to bear in mind that even with a perfect knowledge of the history of your ancestors, DNA can still show some unexpected results. We've linked an article below which discusses inheritance. support.ancestry.com/s/article/Understanding-Inheritance Remember that your DNA is only one element of a much larger picture, and your family history and relatives will play an important role in your genetic make-up, even if they are not specifically reflected in your ethnicity results. Check out the linked below for more information on the factors that can caused unexpected results. We hope this article helps better explain your results. support.ancestry.com/s/article/Unexpected-Ethnicity-Results
This is all funny to me, because my family has claims to native ancestry. I have always identified as just being white, but my father always spoke proudly of being a measly 1/32nd Cherokee. He took Ancestry's dna test and is in denial that there is no Native American in him. The odd thing is, while he is 95% European- no shock there, he's >1% African, 2% Asian (possibly South&Central), and 2% middle eastern with zero knowledge of how that came to be whilst claiming he knows all his ancestors back 6 generations. It's just become funny to me that finding out you're not 1/32 cherokee can throw you for a loop.
Here's a puzzle: My wife and her brother both show residual Native American in their DNA tests. However, neither their mother or father do. Is it possible for DNA to jump generations? Can the DNA be misinterpreted (Their mother shows 3% Middle East; she's the one with confirmed Native American in family records, but no DNA.) There is no uncertainty about parentage.
something similar happened to me. I have no known native american ancestry story in my family, but i took both ancestry dna and 23 and me dna tests and in the ancestry dna test i showed traces of Polynesian ancestry but in the 23 and me dna test that trace became native american. ????? My Caucasian father also took the 23 and me dna test and he showed up with 2% native american ancestry. ?????? where did that come from?
@@melissaexton8680 Asian and Native American can be confused sometimes, because the first Native Americans were people from Asia who crossed the Bering Strait.
@@ettinakitten5047 yup, but dad wasn’t Asian, he was white. My DNA settled for Asian cuz mom is Asian like you said, but Dad’s Native American DNA is still there.🤔
A lot black people forget some of the tribes like Cherokee actually had black slaves and were not part of there community. Then other times during slavery when slave owners and had kids with the slaves they would be traded to other farms. That’s how a lot of these stories get started.
For someone who came from Mexico that sounds about right. The native would be whichever tribe inhabited your part of Mexico, the Euro would be the Spanish influence and the rest would be from the Spanish ancestor due to all the migration. I am euro with about 2% west African but you wouldn't guess it to look at me in the winter. I tan easier than most paleface people and retain my tan even into the fall.
Nice video! I did my DNA came out 49% Native American although I thought it would be less because of my father's side. There were the stories that get past down and I just had to know for sure..very exciting!
Well, I was told David Kirk was my father, but never knew him. According to my Grandmother, He was a service man who cared for my mother and when he returned from the war, was going to marry her. So on my birth certificate shows her married and my father David Kirk. The marriage never happened. This I found when I was in my 40's. So now both my Mom and Grandmother passed, Mom being an only child. I do remember, while growing up, my mother would always say, "You have relatives in Spain, You're Castilian". So my hope is through this testing I may find this to be true. Won't that be exciting! Can;t wait to find someone who may know him.
Thank you for this!!! This is why, when discussing my father's side of the family. I say my father's Native American ancestors. When people question this, I explain I'm heinz 57 (my color), red, white and blue 100% American. When asked for ethnicity on forms I write human being, red, white and blue.
This is why I wish others in my family would get the DNA test done. It's been said I (And my sister) have Blackfoot and Cherokee- One is from my mother's side, one is from my father's side but I forget which one goes to who. I've been researching our family tree for many years and have never came across a single name that even sounds Native American. According to my own DNA testing - when I click for the stats where the Native American Indian would be located every single area says "No connection". so I'm pretty confident we actually have NO Native American Indian in our bloodline at all.
Let me begin, I love your video. Your explanation was very clear. I tried to explain this to a loved one who dismissed it when I tried explaining it before I finished. I hope your video gets further than I did. I’m thinking that it’s as true as is nearly all (if not all) African Americans have some European ancestry. I don’t find it so unheard of because we’re a mixed country. If the mixing was back in 1600s-1800s it won’t necessarily show up. Another is there are many unrecognized tribes and many tribes who are extinct (for a lack of a better word) who we don’t have a definitive dna sample to compare. I only have 0.3% Native American DNA with 1.1% unassigned. Maybe one day we’ll find out to whom that 1.1% is attributed.
A ancestor of mine Wampage was Siwanoy of the wappinger Confederacy and I can’t find much information about the tribe and I was wondering if y’all had any good ideas of where to get any information?
My grandfather told us when I was in my early teens that we were related to a specific someone...who was Native American...but since he couldn't provide specifics, we thought it was a "tall tale". Fast-forward to about 10 years ago when I decided to delve into genealogy and connected what I knew about my family to older established-and-recorded historical data from the colonial period...and...it wasn't a tall tale after all. It was through his mother's family so it had been passed down verbally through the family for 300 years. He just hadn't been taught the specifics. And...while Ancestry doesn't show I have Native American...my very same Ancestry DNA results have been uploaded to 23andMe and Gedmatch and they both show me to have about 1.65% Native American ancestry...which is about what I would suspect considering the time that has passed. Sometimes it's in the algorithms.
@@LittleImpaler it's not a test. It's a website and you can upload your test results from ANY DNA testing company to it to compare your DNA to others who have tested at other companies. They also have VERY interesting and useful tools there that are helpful that no other company has.
Sometimes your native american ancestry is hiding in other percentages like "central asian" which is a region also associated with native americans since they came from there - also it can also show up in Austronesian/Melanesia or Polynesian results - as these races are relatives of native americans & share common ancestors . if none of these show up it just means you dont have any significant native american heritage that they can detect - and unfortunately it means you may have been lied to :P
@Crista Cowan, my paternal grandparents is where I got my Native American Indian Heritage from. My paternal grandmother was half German and half Cherokee Indian. My paternal grandfather was a quarter Sioux Indian and a mix of Irish, Pennsylvania Dutch (German) and a couple other things. I have not taken a DNA test yet but plan to soon when it arrives. So I do wonder why it doesn't show up. No, no one was registered that I know of.
According to my grandmother we have many native ancestors just 4 or 5 tiers above me. I've always been curious because I love the spiritual and cultural practices that Native communities maintain. From what I understand, the one way for me to be able to visit these communities is to prove relation. I would love to spend time on a res and learn more about the TRUE history of these natives as well as be able to experience the scared energy that, hopefully, remains at these sights. Also, I think it would be useful in understanding my metaphysical self and spiritual abilities that run through our bloodline.
We had this story from both sides of my family. I got DNA testing for myself and my mother (father is 20 years deceased). 0.0% American Indian. I have .5% Sub-saharan African and my mother has a trace of Indian subcontinent. Since she is 78% British and Irish, I think her India connection is either an East Indies pirate or Roma. :)
Ancestry does not test all of your DNA. GEDmatch does. You should upload your DNA to GEDmatch. We know my wife is Cherokee. Ancestry has her at 2% Native American (NA). GEDmatch has her at 3.42%. Ancestry said I have 0% NA. GEDmatch said I have 1.15% NA. Use GEDmatch!!!!
The story you should learn is the Dawes act and the 1900 census count. A certain group got to pay $5 to label them, and all their kids as Indian to take a certain peoples land. My grandmother, and great grandmother are from Jennings, Louisiana. Go down there to see what the original Indians are
I have found Algonquin in my ancestry research and my Native American never showed up. I was expecting at least 1% Native American. I have genealogical proof that I have a Native American ancestor and it didnt show up...But than again my great grandma on my mom's side was full blooded Sicilian and Italy never showed up in my ancestry DNA either. She and her family I was able to trace to Palermo Sicily to about 1500. I just don't get the DNA.
Cheshire Cat my great grandmother was 100 percent Algonquin from upstate NY, but I didn't get anything either. Neither did my cousin who are grandparents were brother and sister.
Cheshire Cat You don't have genealogical proof, you have anecdotal evidence based upon family ties, which does not mean that person was a forebearer. Also, Italian can show up as Southern European, Middle Eastern, Iberian, Ashkenazi, or for Istrians, sometimes other groups even though Italy (or a pre-Italy city state, because Italian is a relatively new designation ) was the known homeland of the ancestors.
Everyone likes to claim being Cherokee.. Forgetting there are several other tribes.
So true, all my 'okie' Ancestors claim Cherokee. A point brought up to me in 1965 by my 100% Pomo friend "Ducky"
+Bobby Ingram what tribe should people from Oklahoma think they descend from?
lol true...the Cherokee werent even a large tribe to start with so how did all these people come from from this small tribe. Ancestry DNA showed me as 33% Native American(Mexica). My great grandmother on my moms side was full blood raramuri or muki ( female.) They are still around. Sadly probably one of the last generations of full blood Raramuri.
Look up comedian Charlie Hill talking about Generikees
Bianca Toni My Great Grandmother was Raramuri and I was fortunate enough to have her around 16 years of my life.
If I had a nickel for every time someone told me they were part Cherokee....I would be rich.
Nah dude, you be wealthy.
or have a shitload of nickels
Me too, but really... I have Native ancestry. So that one nickel you won't see! Lol
And they're always the palest John Smiths you ever seen claiming to be related to tanto.
@@stikupartist3698 Or someone who is clearly African.
When I got my DNA results back from you guys I was crushed because I was always very proud of my Nipmuc heritage and there was none of it on the results. I felt like a part of my identity had been ripped away. Now I know that's not necessarily true. Thank you so much for this video.
My grandpa was half france, my DNA says 9%, one of my cousin say 14%, my other cousin say 0%
Why not be proud of who you really are than ?? 😆😆
dna tests like this arent an exact science. Also, Natives came over here from the other side. Most importantly, you are compared to others who have taken the test. As more natives take the test the more accurate it will become.
My mother’s lineage has always been passed down by verbal history. Names, and specific locations. My ancestry didn’t mention any native (it was a different company), yet most of my relatives on my mother’s side are still in this specific area... and my great grandmother, grandmother, maternal aunt, mother, and myself are all dark. These tests aren’t getting it all right.
@@katiejon17 DNA does not lie. Your relatives do.
Most white Americans just do not have any Native American ancestry. The vast majority of families have not been here long enough for the ancestor to be so far back as to be undetectable. Second, it's unlikely that it would be a male ancestor, because it was most often white men and Native women, as it was considered a fate worse than death for a white woman to be with a Native man back in the day.
In the South and East Coast, these blood myths exist to cover up the fact that the ancestor was actually black.
It's even worse with African Americans they almost all say they have Native ancestry but it's actually European. I always get a good laugh from white and black Americans when they tell me(a real native) that they are as well and when asked what tribe 9 times out of 10 they say Cherokee lol
Barrio Azteca It's sad, really.
Except that most of the people who are not registered members of a tribe but do have some native American blood are primarily African Americans. This is because in many states, surviving indigenous populations not part of the reservation system were often partially integrated with African American populations. Intermarriage was common. But Caucasian populations did not commonly intermarry with either until the late twentieth century.
I was quite surprised that the OP was actually leaving the possibility that some whites have native that fell below the sample resolution...her own chart shows that at 7 generations back percentage is 1.5% to get down to zero one needs to be at 9 generations.
The number of Europeans who have ancestry in the America's that goes back that far are a small population of New Englanders. So if you are European and you claim native ancestry but you know your ancestors don't go back 9 generations or come from New England than they can't have been native at all.
"In the South and East Coast, these blood myths exist to cover up the fact that the ancestor was actually black."
This is actually quite confirmed by a recent study by 23 and Me where they revealed that the majority of those who self report as European (white) have MORE African admixture than Native admixture. (Kind of ironic and confirms your conclusion.)
African Americans mean while have more European admixture than Native (expected).
But African Americans on average tend to have MORE Native than European Americans have Native.
The paper is fascinating and based on thousands of 23 and Me users...it's a big one with a solid methodology:
drive.google.com/file/d/0B9N6z_bRVUMmZGRhZVlhMjJDQzg/view?usp=sharing
Barrio Azteca well i am part Cherokee i spoke with my father his father and his mother. they were Cherokee indians and my family is from ga where that tribe reside. native americans did mate with African slaves at the time not all native indians had slaves but they did mate with some so yea some black folks lie bit at least it's more possible than these white folks ... ironic how they stole my ppl land and now wanna be part native Indian
My father’s grandmother was supposedly “Native American”, and looking at the one picture of her we have, we definitely believed that to be true. Turns out, according to our DNA, she was partially black. I see where the confusion exists.
But my mom’s DNA actually had Native American in it, and yet we thought she had none. So you never really know, lol.
Then I was studying Mexico and alot of them found Native American, Spain, African and even Chinese. So its very interesting.
The white side of my family always thought one of their people was native, when i got ancestry I found out it was a Portuguese woman with high cheek bones💀I think a lot of the white people got confused like this
Yo J.J how's it going..so look..u do understand that they call that Asian race of people that crossed the Barron str8 and migrated to North America , American Indians correct, but they fail to mention that the copper colored races were already here before that migration...2nd if u look at all the pics created after the European Renaissance, all AI become Spanish looking or Spanish Asian mixed...find pics before that era and there u will find the truth.. even literature written describes the people of this land just like the bible describes Jesus and the descriptions definitely doesn't match that of European educating that we've all been taught!!
@@jahbrodie0357 *Bering Strait
Exacto!!🇯🇲🇧🇿
Hi there, thanks for stopping by. Unfortunately, current genetic ethnicity research is unable to distinguish Indigenous American tribal affiliation based on the research and technology currently available. Indigenous American tribes are very similar genetically and while there have been a number of advances in genetic ethnicity research in the last several years, research has not developed to a point where tribal affiliation can be credibly determined. However, we are continuing our research and plan to continue updating our genetic ethnicities as the science evolves.
I really liked how you articulated everything. Clear, not condescending.
A few months ago I wrote to a lady here on YT about the misunderstandings that can happen when discussing family lore. I specifically used an example in my own family where we thought that we were Dutch. Turns out that we are Pennsylvania Dutch - IE: German.
Well, I just got my own DNA test back yesterday and found another funny. My great grandmother was told to be Irish-Indian. Turns out that she was Indian. Just not 'Native American' Indian. Yeah. Her ancestry was from India. (A little bit of research into the East India Trading Company and how many Indian brides were actually brought back to England, and it makes sense.)
We've got to realize that we're playing a giant game of 'telephone' that spans hundreds of years. Throw in speculation, unregistered adoptions, the occasional cuckold or rape and nobody really knows who their ancestors were.
What a crazy discovery, Pepper. Thanks for sharing. (Crista)
think of the dna from each of your grands like a window with four panes in it. Each grand gives you one of their four panes which is 25% of their old window, and is 25% of your new window. These 4 panes, each from a different window, now make your own unique window. You do not get the 3 leftover panes of a grand's window, you only get one pane of it. The rest of their window might go to some other relative or to noone, including you.
+Samuel Poe it doesnt work like that. you get half of random dna from your parents each and it recombines together in yours. so the distribution can be random in mixed people
I recently took an ancestry DNA test that revealed I am 19% native american. My dad always told me my grandfather was Yaqui from Mexico. If I am not a full 25% native american is it still possible that my grandfather was 100% native american? Thanks for the video.
It is possible, yes.
I took a ancestry DNA test. It came out to 76% Native American. My parents were both born in Mexico.
YoungLegend07 because we’re Aztec and Aztecs are Native American
mercie Gonzalez we’re descendants of Aztecs , not actual Aztecs
What part of Mexico? I got 41% I'm Mexican also.
Oaxaca?
Depends where because not all Mexicans are aztecs
Most people asking this question are Anglos with white skin, blonde hair, blue eyes and own a dream catcher.
Yes, people who look the same as everyone around them might want to think that a part of them is unique. How is that weird to you?
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Black Americans too lol
Lol
JD no such thing as a black person black is an adjective not a noun
Interesting on how we receive our own unique DNA mix. There is a possibility that one sibling may have Native American DNA and the other sibling in the same family may not.
Yessss!!! Omygosh yes!
As a black American, we were also told that our great great grandmother was full blooded Native American. My sister did the dna test and she came back with 3% Native American ancestry. I don’t think there’s anything with acknowledging it or being proud of it because, it’s a part of us. However, we are even more excited about our majority african ancestry that we’ve always identified with.
white/native here and proud! -edit i did an ancestry test im not native at all only white
I don’t think it matters what make up you are you should be proud of your ancestors whose struggles have allowed you to be alive today.
Have you ever wondered if native americans are researching if they african ancestors ? lol 😂
im happy that you ID with your Black family ancestral ties as you should,
If your sister was 3% and the test did not evaluate the 23rd chrome your sister could really be 8%. That would make your mother 16 to 20%. Your grandmother 32 to 40% and your great grandmother 70 to 90% Native American which is considered full blood. So your parents and grandparent was not lying when they said a great grandparent was of Native American heritage.
Thank you so much for explaining this situation with Native American DNA. A funny and perplexing situation I have run across in researching my husbands's DNA and genealogy is this: My first husband, whom I married in 1967, in NY, was obviously Caucasian (white skin, redish hair, blue eyes). He has three children by a previous marriage. Two of his children were fair, but the third had much darker coloring, black hair, and brown eyes. My husband had a picture of his Greatgrandmother which had been passed down through his family which showed an American Indian woman, which explained the different coloring that showed up in his son. Husband died in 1994. I didn't even date for 23 years, during which time I moved to SC.. In 2017 I found myself drawn to another man. He was an African-American who also claimed that his Grandmother was Native American. He was lighter skin than his other relatives and had even been given the nick name "Red" in his college years. He also had a photo of his Grandmother.....THE EXACT SAME PHOTO THAT HUSBAND #1 HAD!!!
Wow, what are the odds of that happening. Such a small world.
WOW, THAT'S SURPRISELY RARE THAT THIS WOULD HAPPEN AGAIN. THEY WERE RELATIVES AND DIDN'T EVEN KNOW AT ALL. I'M ADOPTED AND I DID THIS TEST TO FIND OUT ABOUT MY HISTORY ON BOTH SIDES OF MY FAMILY. MOTHER AND FATHER'S SIDE. I'M EXCITED TO FIND OUT. I ALSO GOT TO KNOW MORE ABOUT HEALTH TRAITS.
That is just out of this world crazy
Comments like yours
This one
is a big reason I like to read the comments
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You can have blond hair,etc and still be a native,some of my cousins are
I took the Ancestry test and my results were 94% European and 6% Indigenous American. I was not expecting to have any Indigenous American and would never claim to be Native.
Elizabeth Warren did lmao
If you are 6percent then you are.
@@YouGotOptions2, DNA tests cannot determine Native American ancestors because they don't give their DNA to public databases. No tribe accepts DNA, it's by documentation only. Very rarely do they use DNA and it's only to determine parentage.
There are white people who claim to be with just 1%.
@@Anna-Rose- That is for tribal membership purposes. It doesn't change your ancestry.
I’m half Mexican and when I took the ancestry dna test it said I was 17% Native American with a lot of French and spanish ancestry which makes sense I wasn’t surprised at all
Yeah, Mexicans are most often Native/Spanish mixed, sometimes with African or other European as well.
Sounds a lot like mine. I was around 20% native with French and Spanish.
@@ettinakitten5047 mixed more like force mix
My grandmother is 3/4 Native American and was born on an Indian reservation in New Mexico. She has a reservation number instead of a birth certificate. My grandfather on that same side is also 1/2 Native American and 1/2 German. We have genealogy going back generations and my 23andMe showed nothing. They said it was because there aren’t enough people with that dna getting the test done.
Nope doesn't sound right
Maybe need to check too see if someone was adopted
That doesn’t sound right, as the other guy said, must be an adoption
Having a 3/4 grandmother and not a single bit showing up on the test means that someone is lying or hiding something
No one was adopted. I’ve seen the reservation number, and I’ve talked to organizations within the Native American community. The family tree is accurate. My grandfather on my father’s side was adopted but already knew that.
If anyone knows or thinks they have blood of a certain Tribe and want to enroll into that tribe, you can contact that Tribe, the regional BIA offices or departments that track the dawes rolls to find Native family or ancestors, they have extensive records of Native families going back nearly 200 years. Keep in mind that you will also need your non-native family records too because Tribes need most of your family tree to determine blood quantum, if you can't provide a detailed family tree of your non-native side, these Tribes will consider your records incomplete. Most Tribes require 1/4 blood quantum, some have a more strict blood quantum limits. Some Tribes have a very generous qualifications to be a citizen such as the Five Civilized Tribes (Cherokee, Choctaw, Chickasaw, Creek & Seminole) that only requires at least one or a few family members on your family tree to be on the Dawes Rolls.
I'm 41% European, 41% African and 18% indigenous Puerto rican. 18 different ethnicities in all. 🇵🇷 🇵🇷 🇵🇷 🇵🇷 🇵🇷
Wow, that’s amazing and (for me anyway) fascinating. 🙂
DNA trumps "stories"every day.Somebody lied somewhere.
I actually used Ancestry DNA to check mine. My Grandfather told me his mother was full blooded Cherokee. No one ever talked about it, which was normal in those days. Names were changed. The only reason he told me was because I was talking about native blood on my mother's side. He was my paternal grandfather. It seemed to me that I should have have more than showed up and needless to say I was a bit stunned that I only had two blood lines which was European and only 8% Indigenous American. I'm sure there's more but this video does explain a lot.
It is possible your grandfather's mother was half Native, not full blooded, but least you have some Native ancestry unlike a lot of others who make the claim.
Lol. The people working at 23andMe and Ancestry are just way too nice to say what's really going on: the overwhelming majority of people who claim to have distant Native American ancestry actually, genetically, do not have any indigenous DNA in their genome, and that is often due to "$5 Indians" and/or the novelty of claiming your great-great-great grandmother was BFFs with Pocahontas. This is also true for those in my state of Oklahoma who claim to be 1/164th Tribe X. It's so wild to me that super, translucent white people will call themselves Native despite not being connected to tribal customs apart from that little card and despite being paper white with blonde hair and baby blue eyes. LOL. As the child of a Mexican-American man and a very white caucasian woman, almost 30% of my DNA is of Native American; and pretty much all my NA-DNA is traced to Mexico (likely descendents of the Aztec, Maya, or other indigenous Mexicans). Lol. But, like all gueritos, my mother SWEARS her great grandmother was full or at least half Chickasaw. No, sis. I don't think so. 😂 I don't have patience for any more baby powder-complected people thinking being 1/472nd Native American makes them a person of color or changes the fact that their genome is 98+% European.
Blake Gill Puente I really like what you had to say and I concur a lot of people like to forget that the copper color Aboriginal of this land that were more so my complexion we're not allowed to claim their tribal rights they were only allowed to sign black which has no constitutional value and means nothing in law and traces back to know Nation/ nationality at all... so that left my other lighter tone Aboriginal people to only mate with themselves and the Europeans who are forcing their way into the tribes and force marrying and raping their way into the tribes as a way to legitimize the fraud they committed by signing the Dawes rolls in the first place.... which is why there are almost no dark-complected aborigine then/now... great-grandmother n grand mother are full blood in Muskogee my father father what's Blackfoot and Muskogee due to the Trail of Tears a lot of tribes started breeding with one another yet on the birth certificate there listed as negro and on mine I'm listed as black again no nationality whatsoever... it is sad to have your heritage stolen and then to see people like her claim it... 😢
Ikr it’s completely absurd. I knew a white girl who looked like Barbie. Super straight golden blonde hair, baby blue eyes and pale skin that burned red. She claimed her grandmother was full blood native... I don’t understand why they do this. Guess they think it makes them more interesting.
You cannot go by the color of skin. Look at me. I'm very white and redheaded. My grandmother was Cherokee. ( my mothers mother) I got none of the resemblance. My cousins and other family members do. P.s I do not identify as indian although it matter of factly shines through per my DNA.
Omg yesss I just wrote a response on this same thing then I just saw yours!!! Exactly 😂 $5 dollar Indian. Dawes act.
Choctaw DNA in me . I will be taking my test soon
Thank you so much for explaining this!! My Step-sisters mother was born on the Winnebago Reservation in Northeastern Nebraska, and she was always told tales that her Grandparents performed as stunt riders in Wild West Shows. After having Melanie's DNA processed, she shows no Native American, ZILCH! However people that she matches with on Ancestry do have Native American ancestry. Explaining how "The Cards are Shuffled" made a lot of sense! Time to get her brother tested!
Everybody can't be Cherokee, but every one claims to be! SMH
100% accurate.
Christine M Lester 1/16 Cherokee, while I'm here looking at them like "Ametur".
Yes lots of people truely have Cherokee Ancestry.
James E. Ogilvy Barbra Bush is a $5 Indian and if you believe her you might be a $5 Indian also get an unabridged dictionary or go read the thief Columbus’ journal the discerption gave wasn’t pale skin or light skin it was copper so that makes Bush a lie
RapO vrDos You are 💯 bro they love to steal other people history and claim it for there own .....
My mom’s sister showed Native American DNA, but my mom didn’t. When I tell people that I descended from a Native American, people show hostility and they yell at me that I am confused until I met a friend, African American who told me that I do have something about me that is Native American. She told me that I have high cheekbones. People tell me that my eyes are dark. They are dark for someone who is forty percent Irish. I think that I understand why no Native American showed up in my DNA, but that doesn’t mean that I can’t have any Native American traits. My dad is one hundred percent Ashkenazie Jew and it turns out that I am 49% Ashkenazim. My friends say that I don’t look Jewish, but I certainly believe that I look mostly Jewish. I mean that I have the stereotypical look of a Jew. Especially my siblings have large noses and native Americans have smaller noses. On my mom’s side, her grandfather was dark complected man with dark hair, but his eyes were blue. His father was a German immigrant and his mother was supposedly half Native American which means that I don’t claim enough for it to show up. Although the English man who married the Native American woman from my family, the English shows up in my DNA, which isn’t fair. My maternal grandfather was supposedly mostly Irish which is why I don’t have olive skin like my dad and great grandfather. I see my grandfather as more looking Scandinavian than Irish. All my life, I thought that I was one fourth English, but I was so wrong. So tell me narrator, why does my aunt Justina have Native American DNA and my mom doesn’t? My great great grandmother dressed like a white woman, but she could definitely pass for Native American. Most likely we descended from an Abenaki woman. So why does my aunt show Native American DNA? I am fine without Native American DNA because I love having mostly Ashkenazim DNA. I am a proud Jewish woman. I love being Jewish. We have some things in common with native Americans. We were persecuted in a similar way. We both had a similar amount of people get killed in our Holocausts. Seriously love being Jewish. Sometimes confused as being mixed, but I identify as being white.
My brother tested with Ancestry and did not show any Native American Ancestry. One thing you did not mention (which I believe is because Ancestry does not offer Y-DNA testing) is Y-DNA testing. My brother tested his Y-DNA at FTDNA (Family Tree DNA) and his Y-Haplotype is Q-M3, a male Native American Haplogroup. We had no idea that we had Native American ancestry in our ancestral surnamed line until we got the Y-DNA results.
Judy Dover wow coooool congratulations on being 1% Native American enjoy bragging about that and pissing people and if you don't say how Native American you are you still are going piss people off by claiming your Native American while you look white ass fuck
My dad took one of these tests many years ago and it was obvious it was not accurate. I'm a quadruplet and even with us quads it shows some differences. I grew up multi-cultural, including an enrolled member. I have at least one ancestor from 4/5 Civilized Tribes, mostly Choctaw and Chickasaw. I know my lineage to the Creek and Cherokee (Ridge for the Cherokee). We grew up with intelligent and degreed people in the family who spoke many languages by way of their heritage as well as being learned through polyglotism. I grew up speaking Choctaw, Chickasaw (and 2 dead Indigenous languages) but only know some words in Cherokee and Creek. We were taught many European languages including French, Italian, Spanish, German, English, Romanian and more. Even though my nephews, nieces, great nephews and nieces are of less "Indian" blood, they are enrolled as citizens and being brought up as "Indian". They are speaking Choctaw fluently and Chickasaw pretty well. They are also brought up speaking Spanish, English, and some Italian and French. DNA tests don't show these things I'm talking about. We also have the 4 roots teeth and much more to our ancestry.
What does your phrase mean? Please I'm confused. The phrase 4 roots teeth? Thanks.
Teeth have roots. It is taught that molars have two or three roots. But we have four roots because of the Indigenous American ancestry. Look up something like how many roots do teeth have?@@patriciajrs46
@@chairmanofthebored8684 Wow!
My dad's family told me that my great great grandmother was part Akwesasne Mohawk from Canada. I inherited no Mohawk DNA, instead my DNA percentages are: 54% NorthEastern Europe and English, 16% Scottish, 14% Irish, 5% Basque, 4% Welsh 2% Spanish, 2% Benin and Togo(West Africa) , 1% Mali(West Africa), 1% Senegal( West Africa), 1% Germanic Europe(some Ashkenazi Jew ancestry from Bavaria. My father's family DOES have members who I actually know are relatives, and most of them have very small percentages of indigenous American, about anywhere from 1-5%. There is one member who lives in Quebec, Canada, who has 40% Indigenous American DNA. The relatives who have very little DNA are a generation or two above me, and my great grandma wasn't full Akwesasne, so I'm guessing that probably wasn't enough Indigenous American DNA to be passed down to me.
My grandmother told me that my great grandpa ( her dad) was Cherokee and Sioux, but her birth certificate said he was "Caucasian" . I asked my Native American art history professor about this as she was Navajo and said she wouldn't mind if anyone needed help proving Native American ancestry. The professor said that since my grandma was born in 1931 in the South that interracial marriage was illegal, so my great grandmother had possibly lied on the birth certificate as both her and my great grandfather would have been arrested because of the Jim Crow laws of the time.
Amber Bante : a lot of ppl who claim Native, were black.
However, what a lot of people don't understand is the anti-interracial marriage laws also covered all races, so marriages between any race were risky.
Amber Bante : laws aren't applied equally, if you were black, it was an almost guaranteed death sentence.
I want to get an ancestry DNA test anyway as I've found out some interesting things about both sides of the family.
Census durant roll of 1906 lists my great grandmother as wht. It was a roll for native americans only and all others had an "I" next to their names. They wrote white because she said she was white. Some didn't want that "shameful" association and just wanted to assimilate. Yet her granddaughter, my mother, was shipped off to an Indian school every year eighty miles from her home.
My family story includes Native American ancestry. Our grandfather’s grandfather was supposedly half Native American and a law officer on a reservation in Oklahoma, the son of another law officer and a Native American woman. That is what our family story says. Historical records do link his family back and his unique name is that of a sheriff in Oklahoma territory. We cannot find his name on any records older than those.
None of my generation has Native American showing up in our DNA, I wish we had been able to test my grandfather.
Thank you for this information! Very helpful
Hi there, thanks for stopping by. We know researching Native American ancestors can be tricky, we have an article on our support site with some research tips that may be of some help. support.ancestry.com/s/article/Researching-Native-American-Ancestors?language=en_US. Best of luck with your research!
You might be 1/256 or 1/512th.. or 1/1,024th..i think that is where it starts to not be detected who knows though it might also just be lies
I’ve been told my whole life that “we’re spainish” growing up. Strangers would assume I was a Native American because of my long straight jet black hair and my large nose. I took a DNA test and it states that I’m 48% . I would just like to know more of my ancestors
Have you started a family tree on Ancestry? If not, here are some tips: ua-cam.com/video/pUEtr_b63CA/v-deo.html
The deck of cards was a good analogy. Thanks
Chante Bacon most native americans ,real ones, roll their eyes at people like her claiming native american.. in actuality the myth of being native american actually meant black african american
this myth came about to cover up the fact that they are actually african american descent.
cfG21 Yeah. I'm not Native American and I roll my eyes at that too.
cfG21 yep
Genetics are very complicated. Even siblings can have different dna profiles.
Thank you so much....I found this video to be quite helpful. My Native American DNA did show up in my AncestryDNA results but not in my Uncle and my Sister. This video helps me understand so much more than I did before. Thank you !
Ancestry does not test all of your DNA. GEDmatch does. You should upload your DNA to GEDmatch. We know my wife is Cherokee. Ancestry has her at 2% Native American (NA). GEDmatch has her at 3.42%. Ancestry said I have 0% NA. GEDmatch said I have 1.15% NA. Use GEDmatch.
@@paulridenour1086 yes I went to Gedmatch. Thank you
Doesn’t seem to be many videos online with natives and African mixed ancestry. Which I find quite odd when we know the relationships that natives had with African and Scottish both being high in number. It seems as though if you did not mix with a European you can’t claim your mixed ancestry
why are ppl so hell bent on being native american
Ginger Snapped Hey, being white is cool. Also, where I go, it's mostly the blacks..for some reason...strange.
Credin Animations FIRST BECAUSE NATIVE AMERICANS ARE AWESOME SECOND THEY'RE SEEN AS EXOTIC THIRD MOST PEOPLE ESPECIALLY BLACKS DON'T WANT TO ADMIT AND HAVE A HARD TIME DEALING WITH THEIR EUROPEAN ANCESTRY.
It's cool to think that a part of you isn't Caucasian, or whatever race you are.
I don’t get the blacks part also
easy - because we are in America, and it gives us a deeper connection to our country. Being a country of immigrants, it means something to the soul.
In my case, i'm 4% Native American, 2% East Asian. So 6% is a lot when you don't have a direct relative (this could mean my great-great grandparent was full-blooded; or, in my case, have two great-great's who were 50% [one of mine is confirmed]).
Your simplified analogies explain genetic inheritance well, thank you.
Through ancestry, I found out that I am 4% Native American. I never really believed any of the stories that my family told to me while growing up. Now that I found out that I do have Native American ancestors, I could really care less.
Also, as stated in the video, just because you have similar physical features, doesn’t mean you have recent Native American ancestry. Most of my family has caramel colored skin, sharp facial features, dark straight hair and can potentially pass as Natives, but we are just a thorough mix of African black and white Europeans.
Also, I have talked to a few actual Natives in the past about people claiming tribal ancestry, many really don’t seem to like it.
Tantibus Draws actually that's partially true the rest of the truth is the Aboriginal people that you call Native Americans that look like me there were darker Coppertone would not allowed to register on the Dawes rolls and claim their proper ancestry... we were only allowed to check black therefore when I will try this get made even one another they came out looking a particular Geno typical way because the dark members of the tribes were not allowed to claim their ancestry
This makes sense.I had always heard that we had Native American heritage but didn't know for sure.I decided to start looking into our family tree to see if i could find anything that would lead to this Native American tale.I subscribed to Ancestry and found that it was true.I found my Grt Grandparents on the Indian Dawes Rolls(they lived in Oklahoma) and the application applying for free land in Oklahoma also on a 1900 oklahoma indian territory cencus listing them as Chickasaw.The Rolls listed her as 1/32 Chickasaw and my Grandfather as Chickasaw by marriage.Going up my tree i found where the Native American came from.MY Grt Grandmother's ( on dawes rolls) 3rd grt Grandmother was full blooded Chickasaw her name was Ishtanaha from Miss,she married a Irish man. My sister had a DNA test done through Ancestry and this is the results..(remember the full blood chickasaw is six generations up the tree and this line never married back into the Native American. Native American-1% Europe -98% Great Britain-56% Ireland-17% Scandinavia-10% Europe West-9% Iberian Peninsul-2% Finland/Northwest Russia-2% Europe East-1%.I think i left some % of something out but this is a good example of what this video is saying.We have since then proved our chickasaw heritage and become Chickasaw tribal members.Thanks Ancestry for helping me prove my native american heritage,without you it would have been alot harder.Names were provided,cousins were found and pictures exchanged.I even found my Native American ancestors that were removed from Miss to Oklahoma.Thanks again Ancestry!!!!
I am Asian. It's amazing how many white people I know claim to have Native American ancestry even though you cannot see a trace on them or their family members. I mean, everyone in their family are pale-skinned, blue eyes, blonde hair. Even facial features, not a single feature that would give away as Native American.
+Laarni Shaner I think back in the day claiming/telling a child they had native American ancestry was a convenient way of disguising they had a black (for white people) or white (for black people) ancestor. Black women's bodies were not their own. They could not legally be raped and had no recourse against unwanted sexual advances. It's easier to tell a child/grandchild there's a Cherokee grandmother than grandma or great grandma was raped by her owner or random white man. And there's many a white family hiding a black great, great, great grandparent for social reasons in a racist society.
Laarni Shaner
i m asian too lol my parents are from lebanon but i don't look arab or asian i look european whereas my familly is av ery old lebanese one and my dna proves it too
Seereene1 Oh shush it
Sereene1 -- you tell the truth.
Thanks for sharing your results, mr. bird. Were you surprised with any of your ethnicity estimates? We hope you'll take time to learn about these regions and your ancestors who lived in these parts of the world. Please let us know what else you learn as you add to your family tree.
I received my husband's Ancestry DNA results this week and it was a bit confusing. He had previously been tested by another company that said he was 8% Native American but, the Ancestry DNA results came back with 0%. I understand how DNA works. I called Ancestry last night and they referred me to this video and an article about Native American DNA. As I suspected it doesn't really apply to the issue concerning my husband's DNA. We know that he had Native American ancestry in his family history and the first test definitely confirmed that information. My question is why did it not show up on Ancestry's test? This isn't a question of "if" he has Native American DNA because we already know this from a previous test. Has anyone else had a difference in results from different testing companies? Thanks!
Ancestry does not test all of your DNA. GEDmatch does. You should upload your DNA to GEDmatch. We know my wife is Cherokee. Ancestry has her at 2% Native American (NA). GEDmatch has her at 3.42%. Ancestry said I have 0% NA. GEDmatch said I have 1.15% NA. Use GEDmatch.
Im %100 human
The ROOT-WORDS are HUM & HUMAN which come from the Latin humus, meaning EARTH & GROUND, and the Latin humanus which means MAN
"Im %100 human" Yep, that's all that REALLY counts.
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andrew craig do you know Bob?
@co122189 You know white people aren't actually the color white, right? Plus, good karma? That doesn't exist.
FYI, if you're researching French Canadian North American First Nations backgrounds, the Canadian archives are good about identifying some people in the historical family tree records as Metis, which at least offers a non-genetic clue. As this video shows, a NA ancestor 6 generations back will only show up as 1.5% NA for the subject (person being tested). For French Canadian history, FN connections may go back 10-15 generations and will not show up in DNA tests.
If Native Americans originated from East Asia, what is the difference between Native American and East Asian DNA?
Certain genetic mutations started in northern and northeastern China (Manchuria), and started stretching along with patterns in Siberia; and I suppose that's where they became different.
YangSing1 South Asia not east Asia
When you say "Blacks say," that sounds as if you are including every single Black person in America. Which is so far from the truth. lol Yes, I am Black, and I am American, but do I believe that Black people as a whole are the original Natives to the Americas? Heck to the no.
DontTreadOnMe IwontTreadOnYou well if you look at america and its people 5000 years ago itll be native but today its mixed n white. Just like 5000 years ago in Eygpt it was black but now its what.. The people changed over time from death to wars to invasions. Just like america. NA say whites invaded n stole land.. Same in Egypt. The people were black.
Golden Buffy he a troll. I see him on every race comment page.. Saying the same
This is a great Podcast. I have a small portion of Native American DNA. I’ve gone through a large portion of my DNA matches and searched for others with Native American Ancestry. This has help me identify my ancestral line that the Native American Ancestry is associated with as 99.99 % of those with Native American Ancestry also descend from this line. Thank you for the Podcast!
You are very welcome.
Thank you for explaining this, I have been wondering about the portions of inheritance. My dad had eight siblings, and we have been trying to wrap our minds around several of my aunt's results. You explained it well
So in my family everybody thought my great great grandmother on my moms side was Native American she had straight long black hair and olive skin, turns out she’s actually Portuguese! And we found this out because one of our family members found some old letters that she wrote a long long time ago and she talked about being Portuguese and how she was very proud to be a Portuguese woman we were completely blown away. Not to mention this totally explains why I had 7% Iberian peninsula in my ancestry results.
Well, there ya go. 😉
That's interesting. I actually have 7 percent Iberian on my Ancestry results too. I wonder if I may have some unknown Portuguese ancestors.
*In Angola, West-Southern Africa, we have plenty of Native American cases of Native American DNA Ancestry (Genetic Marks) since 1530….,,(since XVI century, from North, Central and South Américas….!!!*
Love the graphics too... helps to really explain the concept clearly.
I showed no Native American in any standard autosomal test,and we sure had a persistent "Cherokee" story , which most of us dismissed as family folklore.After uploading our DNA for more deep Ancestry testing,we found it.Then Ancestry DNA truthlines helped us find our distant Native ancestor! :) Don't give up,and thank you Ancestry!
Same. I kept getting West Asian at around 4% 1.8% Spanish and less than 1% Native American and West African. I have relatives in CNO and the Qualla Band of the Cherokee Nation. I found my mixed blood ancestor who was born at the Moravian Mission in Spring Place. She married a white man and was allowed to stay. Her grandmother was full blood. Her Father was Edward Adair.
@@Tsalagi978 you ppl are weird you are not native just bc you have a small percentage just like no one would claim to be whte or black from 5% blood
That doesn’t make you native. You’re just a European with a native ancestor from 100s of years ago pls grow up
A lot of 5$ Indians were on the Dawes Rolls
How they miss that part? You beat me to it. 😂😂😂
Not gonna lie that's my ancestors were $5 Indian who had mulatto children who said they were Indians
I know how disgraceful 😒
@@oppboyputt Actually the term mulatto originally meant mixed White European and Native American long before it changed by definition to be mixed African and white it can also include actual Native American which in usually referred to as Metis or a combination of all is called Melungeon. Even the Dawes and tribal rolls will say for those of mixed descent will state the ancestry as Native. And white such as French or English or if their ancestor is black it will say black and Native.
Thank you, I can't even remember how many times someone told me about their native relative without me ever asking.
Helpful! I'm an amateur enthusiast who helps his friends get started with their research and getting tested. I don't have any N.A. ancestry by story or by DNA results but some of my friends I've helped either had apocryphal stories of that being in their background or when their tests came back it was a significantly lower percentage than what their stories would have suggested. This helps me figure out the right questions to ask when I'm helping somebody and gave me a record trove to check out I didn't know about. Most of my personal research has been so eurocentric I feel like I'm back to square one learning how to do research with these populations. But now I have a better place to start. Thanks!
Ancestry DNA says I'm 1% Native American. It says I'm 98% European and 83% is Great Britain. That's my heritage and that's my culture - not the measly 1% NA. I think its ridiculous to try to claim these tiny fragments as something important to your makeup. When I walk down the street people see a blue eyed, fair haired white guy. My surname is English. That's what I am and I'm perfectly happy with that. Oh, and I do have a sister who thinks she's a Cherokee princess or something with all the Native American art and knick knacks all over her house. Whatever.
There was a native American she did a video on that last name was English. Maybe you are related
Your last name doesn’t define your ethnicity. That’s just your dads dads ethnicity
I embrace all parts of my DNA and don't see anything wrong with that. Your 1% NA came from an ancestor of yours.
Sounds familiar. lol
@@darrylb9872 it still doesn't mean they are Native American.
This explains why even though my sister and I are both 25% Asian but I look part Asian and she doesn't.
my little brother and I are both 15-20% native but that poor boy got ALL the irish genes ahsdljasdhfkagsf he goes outside for ten minutes and gets a nburn while i've never burned in my life. my bf is also 25% asian (filipino specifically) and his little brother, who is 100% white, looks more asian than he does to the average person
My sister in law is Peruvian, her grandmother was full-blooded Quechuan and didn't speak Spanish. Her mother spoke both languages. My sister in law's ancestry results show something like 60% Native American! So the 'native American' really applies to all Americas of the western hemisphere. Not just the indian tribes of the USA boundaries.
We had a family story about my French-Canadian grandfather's grandmother having had some Native American ancestry. We found the person in the 1600s in her tree. I and one of my brothers each got
Michele Mandrioli maybe but it isn't like it matters you're probably just going to piss some of the more stuck up or normal natives by claiming that you're less than 1%
Dat homie Rabbit whatch your mouth
What happen is you aint
@@sergiocaicedo4437 go back South of Rio Grande with that. Aztlan was never North of the border..
Or, vs. DNA, obtain vital records, find your ancestor on the Dawes and apply (or not) to your tribe. DNA results do not allow membership (blue card and CDIB). Keep in mind also, some tribes adopted into the tribe, those were not Native American. Tradition, once adopted, you were blood. However, government does require vital records. My ancestors are on the Dawes, walked the Trail of Tears, and their blood degree shows on their records. Yes, some maybe on the Dawes that aren't, but degree would be stated. Also note, we adopted from other tribes.
I’ve always wondered what I could do as far as having a way to apply for a tribe. I have found my great great grandmother and great great great grandparents on the Dawes Roll. They came to Tennessee via Trail of Tears from South Dakota.
How come I have inuit on one test and not on another test I took?
You took two AncestryDNA tests or you took tests with two different companies?
Since my mother always said her great grandmother was full blooded Canadian Indian, j never understood why it didn't show up on my DNA. Thank you for explaining this!.
I was told I had a great grandmother who was Native American but through research I found out she was a step great grandmother which explained why I could not find any family on the Dawes Rolls. Her last name was Rattling Gourd which was cool.
I got my DNA done through you folks.... no Native showed up. However, I had my results analyzed by several other companies, and the Native connection DID show up, albeit, very little. We had NO stories in our family, of Native great, great grand parents or anything like that... but when I did my paper trail research, I found a possible connection to Natives... but still not 100% sure where it came from. Also detected by other DNA companies, was Native DNA from Greenland; again, very little, but I suspect it came by way of my Norse connection, that settled there.
I'm half English half American, born and raised in England. I grew up being told that my mum has Native American ancestry, even specifying that it was Blackfeet. Whilst she could never specify how far back our Native American ancestor was, I never doubted the family story simply because she, and especially my grandma, looked Native American. When I was a child I didn't even know what Native American features were (being an English kid) but I knew my mum's side of the family didn't look white. I look as white as can be, but when my brother was born he had even darker skin than my mum. As a young adult now with plenty of access to the internet, my conviction that there was Native ancestry was strengthened when I saw what mixed Native people look like. I'd never seen so many people that looked like my mum and brother before. Added with the fact that my mum had been presumed Native by people she'd met, I assumed that my belief was valid. Because I was curious about my ancestry in general, I did an Ancestry test a few years back and there was 0% Native. I wasn't too surprised, because I haven't inherited any traits that would indicate ancestry anything other than European. But then my mum did an ancestry test and what she'd get? 0% Native. Not only that, but she got 100% Northern European. Though, in Ancestry's most recent update, both our results changed. My mum had 2% Southern Italian and myself has 1%. This is the best explanation for my mum's and brother's appearance, and this video has made me believe it more so when it was said that Mediterranean appearances often can get mixed up with Native American. Funnily enough, my mum and my grandma still look more Native than Southern Italian, but race is just a collection of features and ultimately anyone can end up looking like another race with the right mix. (I can definitely see the Southern Italian in my brother now though.) I'm still curious about where the Blackfeet rumour came from, but it could be as simple as one generation assuming they have Native Ancestry because of their appearance and guessing at any old tribe closest to their area and passing it off as fact. Anyway, I just find it fascinating how often this apparently happens. I didn't even search for this video, it was in my reccomedations, and I'm glad to know it isn't just my family that have been claiming heritage unfounded 😅 😂
Great example. Thanks for sharing your story. It's interesting.
My siblings and I were always told our paternal grandmother was 100% Muskogee ,and she looked the part. I got my dna results last week. We're IRISH !!! Straight out of Belfast!!😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣
Trust me, she didn't look the part. Having black hair is quite common in Europe.
LOL...you're too funny!
@@ade910 When I say she looked the part, I mean straight out of the history books, not just black hair.
Nothing wrong with that lol DNA don't lie!
@@starlamoon286 My siblings refuse to believe it even after one of them also took the test and came out Irish lol some ppl
It's funny that people think that olive skin and dark hair and "high cheekbones" makes one look Native American. That just ends up with people who look Italian or whatever other pseudo ethnicity that has been used to substitute and re image. Native Americans in westerns . Native Americans that have not been admixtured look .... basically to people that have never met full blooded Indeginious people before, Asian. Specifically South East Asian to North East Asian. Now that there are so many Native American vloggers from the Amazon up through to the Southwest USA, Mexico, South America, and Alaska etc, you can see that for yourselves. They are taking the DNA tests and the results show 100% Native ancestry. Every time I go to Asia I'm mistaken for being either half Asian or Asian. But I'm never told I look Italian. I'm taking about genetics not tribal membership. Many tribes have members that are not Native American geneticaly but tribal members none the less. Due to Mexico being the center of the Spanish Empire, many Filipinos have Native ancestry, many Mongolian UA-camrs have reported Native ancestry as well and that's probably because of the extensive area that Native peopled lived in and back migration from the Americas to Asia ( Siberia is very close to the Americas, and Eastern Siberia is actually part of the North American tectonic plate). Native Americans are also turning up with East Asian DNA. The two groups are very close genetically and in physical appearance.
My native American showed up it was only 1% but guss what, it still showed up
As of January 2015, the U.S. Federal government recognized 566 tribes (now 567 with the Pamunkey in Virginia), not thousands. There are still a significant number of state-recognized tribes across the country, many of which are not in the western portions of the United States. The Powhatan Confederacy wasn't located in what is now known as Oklahoma.
+yprowe Well I certainly knew that. Sorry if I misspoke. :-) (Crista)
I wasn't speaking of the Patawomomeck. I used the Pamunkey because they are more familiar to me; also, they had recently received Federal recognition. No disrespect intended to the Patawomeck.
Many Eastern Woodlands tribes did what they must to survive, such as disassociating themselves. It is one reason why it is difficult to find some of the documentation. Another of those reasons was the practice of arbitrary designation by officials. My ancestors who were living off the reservation were labeled based on the assumptions/wishes of others.
You are a great teacher ! You did a nice job explaining the DNA apportionment. This is interesting to me, because I have no idea who my Biological Mother was. My Biological father was drifter and had about 3 children....all out of wedlock. I was adopted and later found my Biological Father...(Frank Griffin). He was about 2/3 Irish, but he refused to tell me who my Mother was. My DNA panel showed 30% Irish, 26% Scandinavian, 25% British. The rest included a mixture of Eastern European, including a "Trace" of Middle Eastern. I'm tall thin, with Blue eyes and when I was young, I had thick Blond Hair. So, my assumption is that whoever my Mother was, she was Scandinavian with Eastern European Genes. We have no idea where the trace Middle Eastern DNA came from. Thank you, for your GREAT presentation. (Richard H. Pratt, Ph.D., Ltd. )
Thank you, Richard. Using your AncestryDNA Match list, you should be able to figure out the identity of your biological mother. When you look at that list, how many 3rd cousin (or closer) matches do you have?
Hmmm...I don't seem to have those. Ancestry DNA match list ? All I have is the pi chart with the %tage distribution of the nationalities. How do I get that information....I presume it's on file somewhere at Ancestry ?
Very informative and helpful info. I must also add that DNA ancestry results that do show significant Native American ancestry percentages do not necessary mean that a person is descended from a US American Indian nation. A possibly exists that the person could be descended from a Canadian First Nations aborigine or a latino/hispanic ancestor who was of predominately Indigenous American heritage from Mexico or elsewhere in Latin America. For example, I am half African American and half Venezuelan and my DNA results showed 16% Native American ancestry. I know for certain that I inherited none of it from my African American side. One must do independent family genealogy research in conjunction with DNA ancestry in order to fully verify true American Indian heritage since AncestryDNA currently cannot distinguish between Native Americans in the US and indigenous people in Latin American countries as well as Canadian First Nations.
What about the Sami people of northern Finland, Norway and Sweden? Would they have the Native American Ancestry DNA. I think they are somewhat related. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sami_history
True. My sister in law is Peruvian, her grandmother was full-blooded Quechuan and didn't speak Spanish. Her mother spoke both languages. My sister in law's ancestry results show something like 60% Native American! So the 'native' really applies to the Americas of the western hemisphere.
The mythical Native American ancestor does seem very widespread. Given the history of how they were treated by governments, it's curious how having this in a family tree seems almost to give some borrowed legitimacy or nobility, doesn't it? I did a tree for a friend recently who also had this legend, but zero facts, and in fact both maternal and paternal sides were pretty well documented back to the old countries, even with lurid family stories that I was able to verify, zero trace of NA ancestry. In watching the various US and Brit shows like who do you think you are and the PBS program, you note all the celebrities with these myths--and that's what it turns out to be most of the time--myth. I wonder what Native Americans think about this weirdness.
+Tanya Juli Please understand that the subjugation of the Native American people of the current United States wasn't merely moving them out west somewhere and separating them from the rest of society. A century of suppression of documentation was so successful that most people commenting here will say, "Oh, what a silly myth to believe!"
I can tell you Rambo Mohawk that that is not the case for many tribes. The hopi for example. In some tribes, if your mother was not a member of the tribe, neither are you. Other tribes are extremely picky about who they consider tribal members or not whether money is involved or not.
people so lost on word play... if you were born in the US then you are Native American DUH!!!!!!!!!!!!
In my opinion, I believe that myths and stories told by Non-natives( Those who claim to be, but really arent) give them a sence of "immunity" to the history atrocities done to Native Americans. I have heard the "Cherokee Princess" story over and over living in Oklahoma. It is sad, but at the same time it tells alot about how they think. They want people to see them as someone who's family suffered under the US government. They have no connections like benefits, healthcare, or profit sharing like a tribal member would get; but having a connection like a story gives them a sence of "entitlement". I am 3/16ths Fort Sill Apache. I would be considered white to everyone ( even myself), but I grew up being part of the tribe and its customs. Both of my maternal great grandparwnts were held as prisoners of war with Geronimo here in Lawton-Fort Sill, Oklahoma. I was raised to remember the times of hardship my family faced. Before being taken as prisoners, we had about 500 people in our "tribe" (The Chiricahua- Warm Springs Apache). The US government didnt realize that my ancestors were from different "bands", and still sent us all together by rail to St. Augustine, Florida and then to Mount Vernon, Alabama. Both times we were locked up in cells and shackles. After being incarcerated for 23 years in nasty conditions our tribe was finally released in 1915 at Fort Sill. At the time of release we only had 81 members, and we were no longer big enough to be considered a tribe. It wasnt until 1973? the Fort Sill Apaches were federally recognized as an official tribe. My great uncle Allan Haozous was the first Fort Sill Apache to be born outside of prison, and he went on to become Oklahoma's first cultural ambassador. I know most of my tribal history, and the furthes I can trace back is into the mid-1800s. That is with historical documentation. My great grandfathe Sam Haozous was the grandson of Mangas Coloradas, the first Warm Springs Apache leader to sign a treaty with America during the gold rush in Arizona. He rode with Geronimo in the Apache Wars against the US. No myths in my family, but I understand why some wish there were. And by the way, Geronimo never jumped from any cliff in Oklahoma. By the time he was transfered to OK from Alabama in 1896, he was already in his 70s... Sorry to dissapoint lol.
Tanya Juli native raiding parties would capture white women to keep , some married & some were used as slaves & raped resulting in children.
I have tried to explain this to my family. We have records of an Algonquin ancestor on my mother's side and an Iroquois on my father's side. That's only two people in my ancestry that were native and that was a loooooong time ago. The chances of that showing up if there hadn't been any other known native DNA that entered my genome is practically nonexistent. I mean all humans are related to each other if we go far enough back.
That’s why there’s only one race and that’s why we can always prorate procreate with each other that’s scientifically proves we are one race with many tribes in ethnicities that being said you wouldn’t exist without each and everyone of your ancestors but your dad is from the Iroquois that’s crazy he was a cannibal
I have family records that include my great grandfather was half Cherokee. This record is an interview for membership in the Dawes Rolls. My grandfather, George Washington Hicks, claims his father is white and his mother was full blood Cherokee. Your explaination made more sense than anything I have read. I do not show any American Indian in my DNA, however my sister shows 2% of Indian blood. As a family, we always listened to the stories of our Native blood. And now I have records to back it up. Thank you.
Alpha Omega I know right? So maybe my family’s records are wrong.
So your GrGrand that was one half Cherokee, what was his other half. Why do ppl rely on 1parent. It's ridiculous.
Went to the archives but could not find interview records. My gmother interviewed and the story goes she was too distant. I’d like to see the interview records. How?
Why not just be proud of being white European?
Maybe bc Dawes rolls was made by whte ppl to lie about their race and be labeled native for land… you’re whte and so is your sister f that 2% blood pls
Thank you very much! I'm thinking in our case, they claimed Cherokee ancestry to hide the fact they had African ancestry. My results showed African ancestry and most of my dad's side came from Appalachia (TN and NC) so it's likely they tried to hide it especially given the time and place.
I remember reading an article regarding what you are saying about 10 (or more) years ago. It spoke about how some AA's & mixed couples pretended that the AA partner was Native American because they felt it would be much easier accepted. They explain that this is the reason why so many AA's think that they are part Native American when they are not.
Now some people took the pretending in a different direction because when they got here they were not aware that what they were pretending to be didn't have it good here either.
I met a elderly woman about 15 years ago who told me she met her sailor husband in Puerto Rico. He was a southerner & felt that she would not be accepted down there so they decided to tell everyone that she is Italian.
I also knew a dark skin Panamanian family and a dark skin Dominican Family who pretended to be African-American because when their families came here 60-70 years ago they felt they would be easier accepted if they were AA instead of Latinos.
dmarie1184 Melungeon! Google it
MELUNGEON
Me Tooooooo 4 to 6% African Mali and Nigerian. Irish mom is 100% so I have 50% 29% scotch German Swedish welsh
My sister has 65% Irish. To my 50
OK ...
Now, I do believe I understood the explanation but - that raises a question.
On some of the things I've seen where people were posting their results - (from whatever DNA Testing Organization) - they had mention of Neanderthal DNA.
If some Native American DNA is to far back to be detected - how is Neanderthal DNA NOT to far back to be detected?
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I wanted to take this test but am seriously doubting it, since they group all American ethnicities into one category. South America itself has an incredibly vast variety of indigenous ethnicities that if I get that background check only to be labelled "native american" I would feel like they're telling me the obvious and are over simplifying a result that deserves to be expanded and studied. Not taking the test until they include the other 2/3 of a continent they neglected to take into account which is central and south america. That is so typical.
+ThatOnePerson Our Native American reference panel includes people from all Americas. As new information becomes available that allows scientists to distinguish between different populations, we will update the ethnicity estimates for our users.
Ancestry
Thank you for your answer, as I'm really interested in taking the test, but the way the information is expressed on the page makes people believe that the result "native american" could mean anything, from Chippawa to Muisca and everything in between. For example, where can I see a more detailed listing of the possible results within the "native american" spectrum? And could the results we get now be updated once the scientific data is greater?
+ThatOnePerson I think the misconception is that there is only one native American tribe but there were several. Some came from Asia through Alaska Canada into America and Some came by boat by the South Pacific. The ones who came by boat were here longer. The tests are accurate but it is the tribe of native American you have to relate to.
+ThatOnePerson Yes. As our scientists are able to update the ethnicity estimates your results will be updated automatically. No need to retake the test. (Crista)
+HairH2O The vast majority of NA DNA is common - with no distinguishing markers. However, many who take the test and have NA DNA that shows up ALSO have Eastern Asian or Polynesian or some other ethnicity as part of their ethnic mix that when combined with the NA finding, allow them to distinguish. (Crista)
Ancestry and DNA is still a relatively new and fascinating field. As time progresses and more people are tested I think it will become more accurate. Your explanation was truly easy to understand. Sadly there are so many of us in these last few generations that do not have accurate birth certificates, marriage and remarriage and so much else pulls us away from our roots.
Great stuff as always @CristaCowan!
Great explanation, I came out with 18% Native American, was very happy to see I still have my native blood in me much stronger than I thought👍🏽
Or Grandma got down with someone else & just didn't tell grandpa.
I have lots of Native American in me.
My dad side
Paternal grandpa: Jicarilla & Chiricahua APACHE (NEW MEXICO & COLORADO)
Paternal grandma: NAVAJO & HOPI. (ARIZONA)
Maternal grandpa: O’ODHAM & HUICHOL (SONORA DESERT)
Maternal grandmother: AFRICAN & EUROPEAN born in (Nayarit Mexico)
Love, Love this lady. She has a great approach at explaining what has become to many, a very confusing topic of genealogy research.
Hi just wondering, why is Native American and Mexican grouped together on the ancestry Dna results?
+Lauren Nelson It is the current way that Ancestry DNA now labels all Indigenous American ancestry detected as Native American. When the company began ancestry tests, they divided Indigenous American DNA between Native North American and Native South American. Ancestry dna companies like 23andme and Ancestry DNA will tell you that they don't have samples from a variety of Indigenous American groups in North and South America to be able to further break down any individuals Native ancestry and connect it to a specific country must less tribe or Native nation.
+firstpower100 The majority of Mexicans are descended of Native American ancestry.
+Lauren Nelson The indigenous Mexicans *were* Indians, much like ones that populated the rest of N. America. Modern Mexicans are a mix of Spanish/Indian, some more or less than others. That's why some Mexicans are very Indian-like in appearance and others look western European. Many, a combination of both. So, a modern day Mexican or Mexican-American would likely gets results indicating they are Indian and W. European mix.
Because it's bull@hit
It is not grouped together...
I haven't received my DNA results yet, but my father said his father tried to get land rights in Oklahoma, but couldn't prove he was part Indian (He was dark-skinned, high cheeks bones, and dark eyes as was my father). On my mother's side, we had an ancestor who was reportedly on the Trail of Tears. My grandmother lived on an Indian reservation in Oklahoma. I have dark skin, brown eyes and dark brown hair. My sibling is light-skinned and blue eyed. My children are both light-skinned and one had green eyes, the other brown eyes. It will be interesting to see if I inherited any Native American DNA.
Got my results. No native American. All British isles plus small amt. Scandinavian. At least now I know!
Hi Bonnie and thanks for reaching out to us. We are eager to address your unexpected results and hopefully clear up any confusion.
Remember AncestryDNA ethnicity estimates are based on available data. Ancestry uses established baseline ethnicities taken from living people with verified roots in a particular area. This is otherwise known as our reference panel. We calculate your ethnicity estimate by comparing your DNA to this reference panel made up of DNA samples from over 68,000 people, representing 84 different global regions and over 1,800 communities.
Genetic inheritance is also completely random and so while we each inherit 50% of our fathers DNA and 50% of our mothers DNA, we do not get an equal split of their DNA. It's important to bear in mind that even with a perfect knowledge of the history of your ancestors, DNA can still show some unexpected results. We've linked an article below which discusses inheritance.
support.ancestry.com/s/article/Understanding-Inheritance
Remember that your DNA is only one element of a much larger picture, and your family history and relatives will play an important role in your genetic make-up, even if they are not specifically reflected in your ethnicity results. Check out the linked below for more information on the factors that can caused unexpected results. We hope this article helps better explain your results.
support.ancestry.com/s/article/Unexpected-Ethnicity-Results
This is all funny to me, because my family has claims to native ancestry. I have always identified as just being white, but my father always spoke proudly of being a measly 1/32nd Cherokee. He took Ancestry's dna test and is in denial that there is no Native American in him. The odd thing is, while he is 95% European- no shock there, he's >1% African, 2% Asian (possibly South&Central), and 2% middle eastern with zero knowledge of how that came to be whilst claiming he knows all his ancestors back 6 generations. It's just become funny to me that finding out you're not 1/32 cherokee can throw you for a loop.
Here's a puzzle: My wife and her brother both show residual Native American in their DNA tests. However, neither their mother or father do. Is it possible for DNA to jump generations? Can the DNA be misinterpreted (Their mother shows 3% Middle East; she's the one with confirmed Native American in family records, but no DNA.) There is no uncertainty about parentage.
something similar happened to me. I have no known native american ancestry story in my family, but i took both ancestry dna and 23 and me dna tests and in the ancestry dna test i showed traces of Polynesian ancestry but in the 23 and me dna test that trace became native american. ????? My Caucasian father also took the 23 and me dna test and he showed up with 2% native american ancestry. ?????? where did that come from?
Well then there should be uncertainty about parentage.
Kevin Sugar is perfect
@@melissaexton8680 Asian and Native American can be confused sometimes, because the first Native Americans were people from Asia who crossed the Bering Strait.
@@ettinakitten5047 yup, but dad wasn’t Asian, he was white. My DNA settled for Asian cuz mom is Asian like you said, but Dad’s Native American DNA is still there.🤔
A lot black people forget some of the tribes like Cherokee actually had black slaves and were not part of there community. Then other times during slavery when slave owners and had kids with the slaves they would be traded to other farms. That’s how a lot of these stories get started.
great tutorial and thanks for the simple analogy at the beginning about receiving random DNA from both parents ... made this much clearer in my mind
I'm Mexican and according Ancestry DNA I'm 65%Native, 25% European, 6% African, 2% Asian South, and 2% Asia West.
Erika Patters sounds abour right, thats a very typical result for central muricans
I'm gonna get my Afro-Mexican husband tested. I may get it for him for Father's Day. I can't wait to see his results.
are you from south mexico?
For someone who came from Mexico that sounds about right. The native would be whichever tribe inhabited your part of Mexico, the Euro would be the Spanish influence and the rest would be from the Spanish ancestor due to all the migration. I am euro with about 2% west African but you wouldn't guess it to look at me in the winter. I tan easier than most paleface people and retain my tan even into the fall.
@@ChiChiGlamShop HEY, why are you keeping us in suspense. Tell us what you found.
My wife's family has proof of Shawnee and Cherokee grandmothers, but it did not show up in the dna test. In a sibling, it showed up.
Mhhhhmmm interesting it should’ve showed up in her as well is this her full blood sibling or half sibling ?
Nice video! I did my DNA came out 49% Native American although I thought it would be less because of my father's side. There were the stories that get past down and I just had to know for sure..very exciting!
Well, I was told David Kirk was my father, but never knew him. According to my Grandmother, He was a service man who cared for my mother and when he returned from the war, was going to marry her. So on my birth certificate shows her married and my father David Kirk. The marriage never happened. This I found when I was in my 40's. So now both my Mom and Grandmother passed, Mom being an only child. I do remember, while growing up, my mother would always say, "You have relatives in Spain, You're Castilian". So my hope is through this testing I may find this to be true. Won't that be exciting! Can;t wait to find someone who may know him.
Thank you for this!!! This is why, when discussing my father's side of the family. I say my father's Native American ancestors. When people question this, I explain I'm heinz 57 (my color), red, white and blue 100% American. When asked for ethnicity on forms I write human being, red, white and blue.
Love it!! I've always said that I'm a "Heinz 57" too! Maybe we're related? LOL (I do have a 1st cousin who married a Hackbarth. lol)
This is why I wish others in my family would get the DNA test done. It's been said I (And my sister) have Blackfoot and Cherokee- One is from my mother's side, one is from my father's side but I forget which one goes to who. I've been researching our family tree for many years and have never came across a single name that even sounds Native American. According to my own DNA testing - when I click for the stats where the Native American Indian would be located every single area says "No connection". so I'm pretty confident we actually have NO Native American Indian in our bloodline at all.
Let me begin, I love your video. Your explanation was very clear. I tried to explain this to a loved one who dismissed it when I tried explaining it before I finished. I hope your video gets further than I did. I’m thinking that it’s as true as is nearly all (if not all) African Americans have some European ancestry. I don’t find it so unheard of because we’re a mixed country. If the mixing was back in 1600s-1800s it won’t necessarily show up. Another is there are many unrecognized tribes and many tribes who are extinct (for a lack of a better word) who we don’t have a definitive dna sample to compare. I only have 0.3% Native American DNA with 1.1% unassigned. Maybe one day we’ll find out to whom that 1.1% is attributed.
A ancestor of mine Wampage was Siwanoy of the wappinger Confederacy and I can’t find much information about the tribe and I was wondering if y’all had any good ideas of where to get any information?
You might want to check with the New York and/or Connecticut Historical Societies to see if they have any information about the tribe.
My grandfather told us when I was in my early teens that we were related to a specific someone...who was Native American...but since he couldn't provide specifics, we thought it was a "tall tale". Fast-forward to about 10 years ago when I decided to delve into genealogy and connected what I knew about my family to older established-and-recorded historical data from the colonial period...and...it wasn't a tall tale after all. It was through his mother's family so it had been passed down verbally through the family for 300 years. He just hadn't been taught the specifics.
And...while Ancestry doesn't show I have Native American...my very same Ancestry DNA results have been uploaded to 23andMe and Gedmatch and they both show me to have about 1.65% Native American ancestry...which is about what I would suspect considering the time that has passed. Sometimes it's in the algorithms.
Where is gedmatch test. Couldn't find it.
@@LittleImpaler it's not a test. It's a website and you can upload your test results from ANY DNA testing company to it to compare your DNA to others who have tested at other companies. They also have VERY interesting and useful tools there that are helpful that no other company has.
Sometimes your native american ancestry is hiding in other percentages like "central asian" which is a region also associated with native americans since they came from there - also it can also show up in Austronesian/Melanesia or Polynesian results - as these races are relatives of native americans & share common ancestors . if none of these show up it just means you dont have any significant native american heritage that they can detect - and unfortunately it means you may have been lied to :P
+ribbon156 Not central Asia, you are thinking of the Altay mountains in Siberia.
ribbon156 bye they came from Southern Asia do some more research in it and you will find out that I'm right
ExtremelyEnragedVikingMohawk Indian you're only 25% N.A you having the profile picture is unjustified and is pissing me off
ExtremelyEnragedVikingMohawk Indian nah I'm just kidding sorry about that comment
ExtremelyEnragedVikingMohawk Indian alright
@Crista Cowan, my paternal grandparents is where I got my Native American Indian Heritage from. My paternal grandmother was half German and half Cherokee Indian. My paternal grandfather was a quarter Sioux Indian and a mix of Irish, Pennsylvania Dutch (German) and a couple other things. I have not taken a DNA test yet but plan to soon when it arrives. So I do wonder why it doesn't show up. No, no one was registered that I know of.
According to my grandmother we have many native ancestors just 4 or 5 tiers above me. I've always been curious because I love the spiritual and cultural practices that Native communities maintain. From what I understand, the one way for me to be able to visit these communities is to prove relation. I would love to spend time on a res and learn more about the TRUE history of these natives as well as be able to experience the scared energy that, hopefully, remains at these sights. Also, I think it would be useful in understanding my metaphysical self and spiritual abilities that run through our bloodline.
Don't forget to also state the obvious. You have African traits.
We had this story from both sides of my family. I got DNA testing for myself and my mother (father is 20 years deceased). 0.0% American Indian. I have .5% Sub-saharan African and my mother has a trace of Indian subcontinent. Since she is 78% British and Irish, I think her India connection is either an East Indies pirate or Roma. :)
Ancestry does not test all of your DNA. GEDmatch does. You should upload your DNA to GEDmatch. We know my wife is Cherokee. Ancestry has her at 2% Native American (NA). GEDmatch has her at 3.42%. Ancestry said I have 0% NA. GEDmatch said I have 1.15% NA. Use GEDmatch!!!!
The story you should learn is the Dawes act and the 1900 census count. A certain group got to pay $5 to label them, and all their kids as Indian to take a certain peoples land. My grandmother, and great grandmother are from Jennings, Louisiana. Go down there to see what the original Indians are
I have found Algonquin in my ancestry research and my Native American never showed up. I was expecting at least 1% Native American. I have genealogical proof that I have a Native American ancestor and it didnt show up...But than again my great grandma on my mom's side was full blooded Sicilian and Italy never showed up in my ancestry DNA either. She and her family I was able to trace to Palermo Sicily to about 1500. I just don't get the DNA.
Cheshire Cat my great grandmother was 100 percent Algonquin from upstate NY, but I didn't get anything either. Neither did my cousin who are grandparents were brother and sister.
Do you have Asian in your DNA? Algonquin blod is similar to indian blod?
Cheshire Cat You don't have genealogical proof, you have anecdotal evidence based upon family ties, which does not mean that person was a forebearer. Also, Italian can show up as Southern European, Middle Eastern, Iberian, Ashkenazi, or for Istrians, sometimes other groups even though Italy (or a pre-Italy city state, because Italian is a relatively new designation ) was the known homeland of the ancestors.