How Project+ Falco is different from SSBM (P+ 2.20)
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- Опубліковано 22 сер 2024
- Small video showing how P+ 2.20 Falco is different from SSBM. Thanks for checking this out!
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Really liked this man
thanks june!!! im a big fan :)
what happened to him?
The PM community is so charming. Like y'all just happy that someone's interested in the game. So much respect.
Same honestly both my melee and project M scenes are not as big as a place like genesis.
but they’re very wholesome and were very willing to give tips since it was my first time doing the melee match ups and some of the project M match ups.
(i’m a duel roy & Marth main in PM & melee) will a sheik secondary since the zelda series is a Nintendo series i grew up with and is very close to my heart and childhood.
Great video! Would love to see this for the other melee high tiers, it's always interesting seeing how they've transitioned into PM. Some are nerfed somewhat, but most are buffed greatly by the additional mechanics (RAR, Footstools, wavebounce, dacus, IASA differences, etc.), but of course they also have to contend with the rest of the cast.
And thanks for the shoutouts!
-erg
If P+ Rollback becomes a thing, maybe I'd become a full time smasher again :D
That means creating an entire New connection for Brawl, so is possible to use it on pm and p+, and p+ isn't exactly the most popular thing now
@@TDG386 But what if it was real? Excited for brawlback?
@@RiahGreen yes :)
That's really intresting even if I never played Project+
I've never been so invested in a topic that I have no interest in lol. Keep it up 🙏
Thanks algorithm. I don't even play Falco or Project+, but I still really liked the video.
Great video. Ivayne is another really notable Falco, though he just started busting out Falco during No Fundies League I think, so I understand missing him.
ah thats sick, ill keep an eye out!
#49 lookin hella CUTE tho 😍
Great video. I learned a lot about PM from this
What blows my mind is that one of the main creators of pm was Warchamp7, who is a legendary hacker and griefer from Team Avo’s Minecraft days(who played notch in quake for a chance to not be banned forever, tho he was nice and let them off the hook after still beating them 😂😂) I love how small the internet can be
This was awsome! I’d love to see more of these kinda of breakdowns!
Some of the little engine changes like the different input lag and the additional frame before you are airborne throw me off more than anything else if I try to play the same characters in both games. It sucks because it would be cool to fight with my Melee characters or my friends at full power vs our PM characters but that just doesn't quite work. I hope if the keep patching P+ to make some of the Melee top tiers feel more like Melee that they fix Falcos laser timing and put his Melee dair back. He isn't very strong anyway so buffing him in a way that would get more Melee players to try Pm wouldn't be unreasonable.
They ruined the spacies. It's as if a bunch of melee people left melee because they hated falco and fox. It's not like falco and fox are dominating melee. Maybe almost half of the top 100 are fox or falco but the rest are something else and half the top players winning aren't necessarily either.
But even then, making everyone stronger while also slighty nerfing fox and falco really did it for me. Don't ruin the most popular melee characters unnecessarily and also be bummed melee players are salty about it in addition to making all the mid to low tier characters a lot better than they were. You realize there are mid tier characters represented in the top 100, right? What do you think a few upgrades across the board of these mid or low tier characters is going to do while also nerfing the top?
But melee still feels better. It's a smoother engine. Something still choppy about pm and there seems to be a lot more cc stuff. Also why do so many characters get grabbed during a run and then both characters slide? That's weird.
Excellent vid, i never knew about the dair nerf.
Great vid would like to see more like this
Ayyy, I made it on the list :D
you were PR'd I couldn't not mention!!!
also id have had way more clips of you but i only found your twitter after i was done with all the drafts sorry :(
It's all good, great video! Definitely subbing. I'll just keep making clips so I can have a chance to be in a future one 🥰
Great video!
Really great content! Thanks for making this.
Really cool video dude
good ass video i don't even play p+ and this got me interested
sick vid
This is impressive
I’ll play p+ everyday if it gets rollback like slippi melee
It's crazy to me that melee still looks this good
good vid
This was a great made video, good job!
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Don't know shit about smash except donkey kong do big punch good. Well made video tho!
very interesting
Nice vid! I would love a mario analisys
i play falco in melee and i can see that he's clearly way better designed in P+, he gets to keep everything he has in melee but they're just tuned down a bit, he still has the personality of melee but is much more fair and fun to fight.
Good, other characters get to thrive
is falco's laser better now with the new physics delay fix?
@@gpbear4 The only thing that'd be different is perhaps the timings to input low laser would be identical to Melee. I wouldn't think there would be any benefits to laser that make it better per se.
Really disagree with the decisions to nerf the spacies in any way while making every other character also a lot better than they were. I think the PM community grossly overrated spacies and underrated PM boosted characters. The fact you can reset with falco dair is just awful.
not sure what you mean by "can reset with falco dair"
Leffen said it most accurately: they designed pm characters to compete with players whove mastered melee spacies
Ok but spacies also benefit from pm mechanics like dacus and wave bounce.
@@TopOfAllWorlds your comment is implying that melee spacies (not wolf because he's a significantly much better character than fox and falco) can compete with the pm characters just because they get some new tech. As if that turns around a match up
Huh? Two of the spacies are top 8, and Falco is still A tier. They seem just fine.
That glitch where they float away on missed tech shine in Melee. Was that fix inherent to brawl or was it a PM fix?
Does my computer has
Virus?!!?!?
seeing squirtle at the bottom of this list shows just how much this aged poorly and how much meta development matters
surely you mean the tier list itself and not the video :P
i agree in that case though yes! seeing how well ivayne has done recently with faloc has also been pretty cool and i feel bad not mentioning him now.
squirtle is evil and everything wrong with this world...
Keep up the grind brother this is awesome pm is the best smash game if anyone wanna play me add me on discord Razur#7433
Pm sux shout outs to GimR
Great video!