The Fundamental Intentions of Neutral

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  • Опубліковано 16 чер 2024
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КОМЕНТАРІ • 55

  • @hollaa
    @hollaa 3 роки тому +18

    im a big fan of the hold forward part

    • @DarwinDing
      @DarwinDing  3 роки тому +1

      im a big fan of holla

    • @hollaa
      @hollaa 3 роки тому

      @@DarwinDing :ooooo

  • @dudutsai
    @dudutsai 3 роки тому +25

    I've definitely played 1 IQ Melee before. Big fan!!

    • @DarwinDing
      @DarwinDing  3 роки тому +5

      u beat me in 1 iq melee with big sword guy

  • @thecadenbaker
    @thecadenbaker 3 роки тому +5

    glad i was randomly up at 5:30 am to see this

  • @Patrick-bn5rp
    @Patrick-bn5rp 3 роки тому +28

    "It doesn't help that there's 26 different characters with different movesets"
    Me, an Ultimate player:
    (*Sweats profusely*)

    • @DarwinDing
      @DarwinDing  3 роки тому +3

      oh man i cannot even begin to fathom what that must be like hahaha

    • @actuallynotsteve
      @actuallynotsteve 2 роки тому

      @@DarwinDing It's amazing, Ultimate is just nuts. There are something like 3500 unique 1 v 1 matchups, maybe more now that there's DLC. Almost no 2 characters play alike either, at least IMHO...Fox and Falco are similar, and the FE echoes are obviously similar, but there's just no way to remember every matchup.
      Every single tournament you'll see matchups that you've never seen before at the high level.

    • @pranavjulakanti7027
      @pranavjulakanti7027 Рік тому

      @@actuallynotsteve that's great for a spectator but a nightmare for a competitor haha

    • @KIRB881
      @KIRB881 9 місяців тому

      That's why I swapped to 64 and melee

  • @KnishG
    @KnishG 3 роки тому +13

    This is such a creative way to describe neutral. Really great points about how whiff punish shines above the other options. Keep it coming these videos are amazing.

  • @SSB_Seal
    @SSB_Seal 3 роки тому +17

    Wait, I have actually played 2 IQ Melee before. It’s the exact same thing as a Melee minigame some people call “Bowser Tilt”, which is where you play Super Sudden Death Bowser dittos on FD and you can only walk/dash and ftilt. I think it’s even more fun than with Fox because everything is slightly more reactable.
    Also great video as usual, very cool to see an analysis on neutral because I think it is way, way less understood by the average Melee player than punish and defensive game, where there are a lot more “true answers”.

  • @GimR
    @GimR 2 роки тому +3

    great video!

  • @zachcarter7022
    @zachcarter7022 3 роки тому +2

    This is fantastic work keep it up bro

  • @vietchuxuan8789
    @vietchuxuan8789 13 днів тому

    Unironically an amazing video. Thanks a lot!

  • @FDGL
    @FDGL 2 роки тому +2

    this was super helpful to understand neutral in melee! thank you very much for this video.

  • @shadowninja433
    @shadowninja433 2 роки тому

    I feel like there is another massive level to the game that is pure, unexplored execution, specifically, ' missed execution options ' and punishes.

  • @DrewZGmusic
    @DrewZGmusic 2 роки тому

    This is the most informative video on neutral I've ever seen, hell yeah

  • @nilpholan
    @nilpholan 2 роки тому +1

    good stuff yo!

  • @taciprince7400
    @taciprince7400 10 місяців тому

    Just starting out. I’m pretty casual with just some experience against friends so it was nice to have a concise breakdown of this

  • @Prbasss
    @Prbasss Місяць тому

    great video dude

  • @joshcummins3916
    @joshcummins3916 2 роки тому

    Man when you explain it at a simple level it makes way more sense. I need to focus on the big picture instead of trying flowchart moves.

  • @hundrds1283
    @hundrds1283 2 роки тому +1

    Just watched this during Rollback Rumble fantastic video thank you

  • @megahertz23
    @megahertz23 3 роки тому

    Super insightful video

  • @cyfer115
    @cyfer115 3 роки тому +1

    “Yes I did mess this up twice”
    LOL

    • @DarwinDing
      @DarwinDing  3 роки тому +1

      i had been planning on rerecording that part and then it got so late i was like eh fuck it captions are fine LOL
      im glad you got a kick out of it

  • @maxono1465
    @maxono1465 3 роки тому

    sick video

  • @TetraBui
    @TetraBui Рік тому +1

    Instead of using 2 IQ melee, we could use the game Footsies, which entire point of the game is to teach this.

  • @Amaling
    @Amaling 2 роки тому

    My first answer to the 2IQ melee flowchart kid was to preemptively hit them before they arrive into “within range” rather than dash back. Idk what this says about me as a player, but it does indeed also best the flowchart, as discussed later

  • @connorkillmice
    @connorkillmice Рік тому

    i wish i watched this 10 years ago

  • @lokemer1093
    @lokemer1093 10 місяців тому

    So good. i love melee

  • @ayeeitsluke
    @ayeeitsluke 3 роки тому

    i love simplification brain scenarios to understand parts of a game

  • @WindaMaplerDivineKYO
    @WindaMaplerDivineKYO 3 роки тому +1

    i like shielding

    • @DarwinDing
      @DarwinDing  3 роки тому

      ur character shields twice it is OP

  • @JManthegamerdude
    @JManthegamerdude Рік тому

    Okay that's the last straw. Take mein sub.

  • @puppystylexd
    @puppystylexd 3 роки тому

    ANOTHER VIDEO FOR THE AGES KEEP IT GOING LIVE YOUR BEST LIFE EXPAND THAT IQ

    • @DarwinDing
      @DarwinDing  3 роки тому +1

      WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

  • @King_Wiggler
    @King_Wiggler 3 роки тому

    Great video, you could make a video in the same style as rishi's video about decision making in smash. I think it would help new players tremendously

    • @DarwinDing
      @DarwinDing  3 роки тому

      oh man i forgot about that video, will have to rewatch but that's a cool idea -- you thinkin something about the meta of how people make decisions in-game or something?

    • @King_Wiggler
      @King_Wiggler 3 роки тому

      @@DarwinDing yeah exactly

  • @brushycat
    @brushycat 3 роки тому +2

    i wish this existed when i started playing fighters lol

    • @DarwinDing
      @DarwinDing  3 роки тому

      u didnt need it to beat gootecks tho

    • @brushycat
      @brushycat 3 роки тому

      @@DarwinDing tuh ROOOOO

  • @skiptts
    @skiptts 2 роки тому

    Waiiiiiiit why the turnip go through the stage ? 7:48

  • @zorfrak
    @zorfrak 3 роки тому

    2 iq melee bracket when?

  • @jessewatters6099
    @jessewatters6099 2 роки тому

    Are you eyes always that Asian or did it being 5:30 and you being super tired make them look more Asian than usual?!

  • @frebo2541
    @frebo2541 3 роки тому

    Shouldn't baiting also be discussed as a tool of 2 IQ melee?

    • @DarwinDing
      @DarwinDing  3 роки тому +2

      haha in some ways i would say whiff punishing is probably the only way you can realistically bait in 2 IQ melee, given that attacking is death, but i could have called that out more explicitly! honestly there is so much depth to even this barebones neutral thing that i had to cut out a lot so that this didnt become really tedious to watch

  • @taylorbee4010
    @taylorbee4010 Рік тому

    Calling smash bros a fighting game, actually explaining neutral
    And linking it to other actual fighting games. You madman! You’ll have both communities after you! You can’t tell them the TRUTH!!!