Why Are Humans Suddenly Getting Better at Tetris?

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  • Опубліковано 22 жов 2018
  • In which John examines what's driving the improvement in scores among high-level players of the 1989 Nintendo Entertainment System's version of Tetris. (And also what we might learn from the Tetris community.)
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    Tetris players featured in this video include:
    The seven-time champion Jonas Neubauer: / jonasteh81
    New world champion Joseph, whose video of getting to Level 31 is one of the single most beautiful things I have ever seen on UA-cam: • NES TETRIS - First Eve...
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  • @hydrole4699
    @hydrole4699 5 років тому +264

    It all happened when four words were uttered...
    "Boom, Tetris for Jeff."

  • @MaxMarriner
    @MaxMarriner 5 років тому +3271

    John Green talking about Tetris is one of those things you never knew you needed until it happens.

    • @Lanai50
      @Lanai50 5 років тому

      🙌

    • @ilknure.6261
      @ilknure.6261 5 років тому +2

      Ikr! This felt like I kinda needed these words. Weird

    • @Alvarin_IL
      @Alvarin_IL 5 років тому

      Indeed!

    • @MyAce8
      @MyAce8 5 років тому +3

      when I log off the hard drop forums and then this pops out of nowhere. Two of my internet communities in one place? and marvel said infinity war was the most ambitious cross over smh

    • @landonkryger
      @landonkryger 5 років тому +6

      You should listen to his podcast, The Anthropocene Reviewed. It's all about him talking about things you never knew you wanted.

  • @ClassicTetris
    @ClassicTetris 5 років тому +1312

    Thanks for the shoutout John, come on out to our events they're much more fun in person! 👍🏻

  • @SarcasticDragonGaming
    @SarcasticDragonGaming 5 років тому +1369

    Hank: This climate change graph terrifies me, I’ll see you Tuesday John.
    John: Hey Hank, we’re getting really good at Tetris.

    • @pinkysaurusrawr
      @pinkysaurusrawr 5 років тому +3

      +

    • @mestiarcanus
      @mestiarcanus 5 років тому +37

      Yeah, when did JOHN become the optimistic/positive one in this dynamic?

    • @JoelRipke
      @JoelRipke 5 років тому +7

      Just carrying on his good news duty from Dear Hank and John

    • @annakilifa331
      @annakilifa331 5 років тому +19

      SarcasticDragon Gaming
      ...now I'd like to see a summary of all Vlogbrothers videos in form of a written conversation where every video is summarized in about one sentence. It would be great. Like the original comment, but for every video. It would be a bit like blurbing Vlogbrothers videos. Please, someone get on that!

    • @chloecorning8504
      @chloecorning8504 5 років тому

      +

  • @maryw459
    @maryw459 5 років тому +574

    "I don't labor under the delusion that I can make THE internet better, but I do want to make MY internet better." Words for all to live by.

    • @lunacouer
      @lunacouer 5 років тому +5

      THIS.
      I need these regular reminders of the goodness, community and kindness around the internet.
      Whenever I see the cesspools, I get nostalgic for the early internet, a time when trolling was actually shocking, when lol, rofl, lmao and emoticons got developed because we *needed* people to hear our true intent, to not sound as cold as text can sound. We were still in the place of knowing it was a person on the other end, a stranger we felt empathy for and felt empathy for us (well, except the trolls), a place where we actively worked to keep spaces safe and fun. Our skins were blessedly thinner then.
      It can feel like the trolls won, because that meanness is everywhere now. It's the new normal. I once asked a Twitter thread why people don't report people more for bullying, instead of responding, and the consensus was "I didn't think of it". And I get sad about that, that meanness is so accepted. It's not edgy anymore - it's just viciousness on a grand scale.
      So thank you John, for tirelessly reminding us of the beauty and fun and kindness that's still there, everywhere, but especially in MY internet.

    • @94blackbelt
      @94blackbelt 5 років тому +2

      I love the sentiment, and I may be tilting at windmills here, but is it really laboring under a delusion to try to make THE internet better? Surely making our personal internet better is easier and more realistic, but THE internet is made of OUR internets. Me making MY internet better may technically improve THE internet, but by so small an amount as to be negligible. But if others who share parts of my internet see the improvement and try to improve theirs, as I'm sure Hank and John have inspired many, many people, and people with overlapping parts of those internets then follow suit...
      I don't mean to argue against John, I adore the pragmatic optimism in it and it's absolutely a noble and worthwhile goal. But I think the sentiment may be underestimating the power of influence, especially with large content creators like Vlogbrothers.

    • @flameshana9
      @flameshana9 5 років тому

      The irony of calling that the delusion.
      "I won't change the world, I'll just change myself." Oh you poor, poor child. The reason the world doesn't change is because you think your _own_ world matters.
      We don't work together _because_ we think we are special and relevant. As soon as you think you matter you become one that is actively creating the problem or being lazy enough to allow it to continue. Racism? Gay rights? Starvation? Nah, I'll just be a nice person. That's enough "for me." Who cares what happens to anyone else.
      Yeah, now you try being one of those people and saying that by "being a good person" I'll stop being abused and gain the rights and freedoms I deserve. I probably won't die at the age of 4.
      You're incredibly spoiled to think this way; because your life is easy while others are dying from easily curable diseases. All while you "stay positive" and add more numbers to your subscriber count. You really sound like children. Especially if you get all offended when you're called out on your short-sightedness.

    • @lunacouer
      @lunacouer 5 років тому

      @@flameshana9 I agree with what you said, about how we need to think communally and fight for those who are getting screwed over. At the same time, this isn't what this is about. This is about finding the good in the unfathomably gargantuan internet.
      I'm not sure if you're talking to @94blackbelt or John, but since they're both talking about the internet, I'm going to take it from the perspective of John and this video.
      If you listen to Hank's podcast "Delete This", and Hank and John's podcast, "Hank and John", there's a bigger context here, when they're talking about the internet. It's easy to drown in all the hate, and as famous people, they get it more than your average person. Yet, because they make their living off the internet, they can't just disconnect.
      And it's not the rational criticism I'm talking about - it's hate for the sake of hating. When you see that all day, everyday, it's easy to think there's just no good out there. It completely skews your perspective. So, John has made concerted efforts in these videos to find the good on the internet.
      And like I said, up above, this in turn helps me remember all the good on the internet. It's now, more than ever, easier to rally and fight for equality *because* of the internet. People are becoming more educated about social issues *because* of the internet, and are doing things about them. There are kind people out there. It's not all a cesspool.
      If you watch other vlogbrothers videos, you'll find that they both absolutely recognize their privileges, and actively work to fight injustice, racism, bigotry and poverty. They have hundreds of videos where they discuss social issues and what people can do about them. This, in turn, encourages the people that follow them to do something, too. I recommend watching John's video of what he did for Hank's birthday.

  • @pinkysaurusrawr
    @pinkysaurusrawr 5 років тому +352

    John getting passionate about niche internet cultures he’s not a part of but still cares about is a 2018 MOOD and I love these types of vlogbrothers videos. You make MY internet better John!

  • @charliekohl7358
    @charliekohl7358 3 роки тому +41

    Rest in peace, Jonas. What a legend.

  • @aSongScout
    @aSongScout 5 років тому +372

    I attended the Tetris World Championships this year and it was one of the best weekends I've ever had. Everyone in the community is indeed incredibly friendly and supportive to each other. So awesome to see it get noticed by a lot of mainstream news sources this year!

    • @user-mv1yq2ko3p
      @user-mv1yq2ko3p 5 років тому

      aSongScout, good luck in future competitions!

    • @billmillersdick
      @billmillersdick 5 років тому +5

      This group is all about "fitting in"

    • @jayi31
      @jayi31 5 років тому

      whoa surprised to see you here

    • @jayjaychen8325
      @jayjaychen8325 3 роки тому

      @@billmillersdick Awesome quote ^^

  • @Skip6235
    @Skip6235 5 років тому +1136

    I think that there is a parallel in the musical world. I am a hobby cellist. I've been playing since I was very young, but never very seriously. Professional orchestra musicians practice 8 hours a day (it's their job), I'm lucky if I manage 4 hours a week. Yet, over time the level of expertise of each individual grows together as the total expertise grows. Because my teacher is really good, she can pass on techniques that her teacher gave her to me and so on. I'm currently playing a concerto that when it was written 150 years ago was deemed unplayable by the cellist it was written for. I'm not great at it, but I can do it. It's pretty amazing. We stand on the shoulders of giants.

    • @Skip6235
      @Skip6235 5 років тому +29

      Just do what we all do and say "I was practicing and I noticed I was really have trouble with *insert any passage here*". Then she will think that the reason you're playing so awful is because of some sort of hang-up, instead of the fact that you didn't practice. ;)

    • @hanabarrett6046
      @hanabarrett6046 5 років тому +77

      This reminds me of something that amazes me about science. The fact that I, as a first year college student, get to learn things that once upon a time nobody knew. Often someone, or a group of people, in the past spent their whole lives figuring out this one thing so we could build up this massive tower of knowledge. And we get the chance to add to the knowledge and pass it on to the people who come after us. We know so much about the world and its really amazing.

    • @luciabee
      @luciabee 5 років тому +14

      That is so cool! I feel like your comment really crystalized the idea behind the video for me, thank you for sharing.

    • @dragonsandwaffles258
      @dragonsandwaffles258 5 років тому +7

      + I don''t play cello, but I do play violin and this is me at a LOT of my lessons.

    • @matthewbornhorst5655
      @matthewbornhorst5655 5 років тому +11

      I think one example that really parallels this in the musical world is Paganini’s 24 Caprices. At the time they were written by Paganini, he was the only violinist in the world who could play them fully, but today being able to play them is almost a necessity in a classical violinist’s repertoire.

  • @thexsoar
    @thexsoar 5 років тому +692

    20 years in and I'm still waiting for my straight block

  • @yoshka1038
    @yoshka1038 5 років тому +121

    "Making lvl 30 almost impossible"
    Joseph Saelee: I'm about to end this man's whole carreer

  • @brunonogues5128
    @brunonogues5128 4 роки тому +24

    And now Joseph has reached lvl 32, 33, 34 and 35. This is a legend

  • @joaquinpavon682
    @joaquinpavon682 5 років тому +194

    BOOM TETRIS FOR JONAS

    • @MyMike1119
      @MyMike1119 5 років тому

      Joaquin Pavon can’t wait for the video

    • @spofet
      @spofet 5 років тому +17

      Neck and neck

    • @MyMike1119
      @MyMike1119 5 років тому +2

      Sanitago Poveda this is beyond neck and neck this is eyelash and eyelash

    • @brainsfordinner7196
      @brainsfordinner7196 5 років тому +4

      Boom! Tetris for... Joseph?

    • @jiachengdong6093
      @jiachengdong6093 5 років тому +2

      Boom! Teris for Jeff!

  • @amyrozz3
    @amyrozz3 5 років тому +208

    Thanks to John's twitter, I watched my first Tetris championship. It was the most stressful, and the most wonderful thing I've ever seen. Joseph is my hero.

    • @amyrozz3
      @amyrozz3 5 років тому

      dbptwg Hyperbole, yes!

  • @SarahLongfield
    @SarahLongfield 5 років тому +38

    I’m really happy I stumbled upon this video, as a content creator and musician, I feel pretty negatively towards the internet (despite the opportunities it’s presented me) but I’ve never considered stepping back and trying to limit and redesign “my internet” rather than consistently dwell on the darkness of the internet as a whole. Thanks for the insight and the interesting Tetris story!

  • @LonSeidman
    @LonSeidman 5 років тому +38

    Same can be said of Super Mario Bros. and speed runs.

  • @NotHPotter
    @NotHPotter 5 років тому +398

    My Tetris mastery is mostly limited to fitting bags and luggage into the trunks of vehicles. Limited scope, but clutch when you need it.

    • @vlogbrothers
      @vlogbrothers  5 років тому +47

      Arguably more useful than actually being good at Tetris. -John

    • @NotHPotter
      @NotHPotter 5 років тому +19

      @@vlogbrothers I dunno, I've never seen anyone Livestream packing up for a road trip. 😆

    • @Nadia1989
      @Nadia1989 5 років тому

      Or bag preparing!

    • @FloydBunsen
      @FloydBunsen 5 років тому +2

      It's extremely useful for working in a warehouse

    • @wobblysauce
      @wobblysauce 5 років тому

      Same Practical Tetris is my jam.

  • @jennamedlyn
    @jennamedlyn 5 років тому +1333

    I have been meaning to say this for a while now. A few weeks ago my younger brother had to read a YA book for his English class and since I had read turtles all the way down last year he picked up my copy and read it. When he got done reading it he asked me if that was what my life was like with an anxiety disorder. I told him yes and his response was "you need more hugs." And he hugged me and has many times when I have mentioned not feeling well. Thank you for using your talents to help my teenage brother feel more empathy. That is pretty amazing!

    • @vlogbrothers
      @vlogbrothers  5 років тому +195

      oh wow that made my day! Thanks to you both! -John

    • @krank23
      @krank23 5 років тому +28

      This comment was exactly what I needed right now. Thank you for sharing. You made my internet a little bit better

    • @shookings
      @shookings 5 років тому +28

      What a way to see "My Internet" in action. I'm grateful to you both for sharing with us.

    • @rachelelizabeth6017
      @rachelelizabeth6017 5 років тому +7

      Jenna Medlyn This makes me SOO happy! 💛💛💛

    • @drwindsurf
      @drwindsurf 5 років тому +6

      Wow! Thank you for sharing your story :)

  • @samscarbrough4376
    @samscarbrough4376 5 років тому +96

    A similar phenomenon has happened in the yo-yo community. Since the yo-yo boom in the 90s, yo-yoing has changed dramatically and now things that were previously thought impossible are fairly easy. Online communities are thriving and people are figuring out new techniques every day. Competitions have also been hugely instrumental in the development of the sport.

    • @Valkail_
      @Valkail_ 5 років тому

      Sam Scarbrough ik I find man on the flying trapeze hard and people are here doing stuff I can’t even explain

  • @MattRoszak
    @MattRoszak 5 років тому +331

    Man, I really miss "the" internet. when everyone who went online saw the same things, and there were no algorithms trying to guess exactly what you wanted to see.
    Remember chronological comments? Remember having lots of thriving websites instead of just a few huge corporations?

    • @yenja209
      @yenja209 5 років тому +30

      Matt Roszak I really wish there were “the internet” and “my internet” modes.

    • @MsSomeonenew
      @MsSomeonenew 5 років тому +24

      Ya that was back when you could see everything the internet had on offer in 12 minutes or so, and most of that was loading time.

    • @ChaosRayZero
      @ChaosRayZero 5 років тому +27

      You know the "chronological comments" thing could easily be fixed here on UA-cam if they just added a "sort by oldest first" button.
      Granted, all the _truly_ oldest comments have been deleted. Anything that was posted before the whole "you need to create and link a Google+ account to do anything on this site anymore" change are gone for good, but _they really ought to make it_ so you're at least able to look through everything _that's still there_ in order.

    • @ChaosRayZero
      @ChaosRayZero 5 років тому +9

      Very true, kidmosey. Sadly, _very true..._ -_-
      But that's the beauty of having it be totally optional! People who don't want to sift through 100 comments of, "I've never been this early before, what do I say?" can set it to "newest first" or "top comments" instead! ^~^

    • @ikagura
      @ikagura 5 років тому +3

      @@ChaosRayZero RIP classic UA-cam

  • @Inucat
    @Inucat 5 років тому +103

    I love playing tetris and I frequently go through phases of constantly playing (I play an online flash version) but I have found that it affects my sleep and I play tetris in my head while trying to fall asleep...

    • @vlogbrothers
      @vlogbrothers  5 років тому +77

      This is called the Tetris Effect, and it has been used by researchers to study whether dreaming about an activity helps us excel at that activity! (It does.) -John

    • @txsunnygirl
      @txsunnygirl 5 років тому +7

      @@vlogbrothers amazing! I love dream science! Makes me feel good about the nights I spent writing college essays in my sleep.

    • @vathek5958
      @vathek5958 5 років тому +17

      I find this kind of thing happens with any game I accidentally play too much - often in the morning my groggy, half-asleep brain tries to process the world through the mechanics of a game. For example, I played a few hours of kerbal space program before bed last saturday, and in the morning my brain tried to process my girlfriend and I as two spaceships next to one another in orbit of some unknown body in the cosmos. I became very confused when she started moving and I couldn't work out her delta-v stats.

    • @rachelelizabeth6017
      @rachelelizabeth6017 5 років тому

      Inucat woooooah...

    • @skillzorz101
      @skillzorz101 5 років тому +1

      This happened to me with a few games, but the worst Tetris Effect I got was from Pokemon Red/Blue on Gameboy. I would often hallucinate the repetitive music.

  • @Aabil11
    @Aabil11 5 років тому +158

    John you should start streaming Tetris as a pacifist

    • @zoepopescu2704
      @zoepopescu2704 5 років тому +3

      Amizan Jaleel +

    • @aSongScout
      @aSongScout 5 років тому

      I want to see John Green try a few games of NES Tetris so badly now.

    • @rethinkOURreality
      @rethinkOURreality 5 років тому

      he would stress out and die though lol

    • @aSongScout
      @aSongScout 5 років тому +1

      I mean, that's what happens when he plays fortnite as a pacifist lol

    • @annaaldridge7037
      @annaaldridge7037 5 років тому

      +

  • @thesparxeffect9734
    @thesparxeffect9734 2 роки тому +4

    *Cheez, Dog, Jonas, Joseph Saelee, Koryan, Sharky, and Trey has entered the chat*

  • @coastercraziness
    @coastercraziness 3 роки тому +3

    This was uploaded before the surge of players (and more hyper tappers and now rolling)

  • @AtomicDrake28
    @AtomicDrake28 5 років тому +52

    I watched this year's tetris championship, and it was AMAZING.

    • @vlogbrothers
      @vlogbrothers  5 років тому +12

      Incredible drama. I could hardly breathe. -John

  • @EastyyBlogspot
    @EastyyBlogspot 5 років тому +145

    I cannot wait for the Tetris movie....i am sure it will be a blockbuster

    • @seanbads
      @seanbads 5 років тому +4

      Eastyy but how will it stack up against Pixel?

    • @mariewikiwaka3851
      @mariewikiwaka3851 5 років тому +1

      Booooooooooooo! ; )

    • @petermarsh4578
      @petermarsh4578 5 років тому +1

      Bwahahahaha

    • @BalooSJ
      @BalooSJ 5 років тому +1

      I don't see how it can compete with the Complete History of the Soviet Union, arranged to the Melody of Tetris.

    • @jaydesummers
      @jaydesummers 5 років тому

      You’re fired. ;)

  • @ErrolBeats
    @ErrolBeats 5 років тому +165

    Boom! Tetris for Jeff!

    • @pwilll
      @pwilll 5 років тому +8

      Boom! Tetris for Jonas!

    • @ghenzua
      @ghenzua 5 років тому +7

      Boom! Tetris for Joseph!

    • @ahmadalkhateeb1180
      @ahmadalkhateeb1180 5 років тому +8

      I don't know if she's his mother or his sister.
      She's asian I can't tell

    • @minfei.
      @minfei. 4 роки тому

      Neck on neck

  • @thejesuschrist
    @thejesuschrist 5 років тому +414

    now, if only a niche group of mortals could get together to find a way for the rest of the mortals to stop being jerks to each other. high score for being a good human to other humans. who would be champion?

  • @JayKBishop
    @JayKBishop 5 років тому +218

    Thor aukerland (okkerland? Akkerland? Okkerlan?) is an awesome name.

    • @vlogbrothers
      @vlogbrothers  5 років тому +72

      Aackerlund! And indeed, awesome name. -John

    • @JayKBishop
      @JayKBishop 5 років тому +3

      vlogbrothers the double ‘a’ and a ‘u’ in ‘Lund’ tricky name, but all the more awesome for it.

    • @blacksawesome
      @blacksawesome 5 років тому +14

      this comment just made my day:
      you tried 4 times, and you failed but that just made it better

    • @darktwistedlady
      @darktwistedlady 5 років тому +2

      This is a Scandinavian name typical of Sweden (but with surprise twist), from when people were forced to use a hereditary family name (before that you were "first name" + "son/daughter", like Svenson or Svensdotter). Aacker/åker means field, lund means clearing in forest. So the family most likely lived on a small farm in the woods, and probably were indigenous Saami/Sámi people, not Swedish.

    • @Thor.Jorgensen
      @Thor.Jorgensen 5 років тому

      @@darktwistedlady Typical of just Sweden? Sounds like we've got a Swede/Swedefan in our midst.
      Warm greetings from a non-Swede.

  • @MisterYagibe
    @MisterYagibe 5 років тому +82

    Probably they started discussing on the Som

    • @vlogbrothers
      @vlogbrothers  5 років тому +34

      That was the other thing I was thinking about when writing this! :) -John

    • @ToriKo_
      @ToriKo_ 5 років тому +1

      MisterYagibe hahahahaha

    • @MarkThePage
      @MarkThePage 5 років тому +7

      YES! This video was 100% The Dream vibes.

    • @AbsurdAsparagus
      @AbsurdAsparagus 5 років тому

      what is the som?

    • @quilynn
      @quilynn 5 років тому

      @@AbsurdAsparagus It's a reference to Hank's book :)

  • @NintendoCapriSun
    @NintendoCapriSun 5 років тому +20

    Seems like the same kind of thing has happened with Zelda: A Link To The Past. I used to speed run the game as a kid, but since there was no internet, I had no way of knowing if my time of 2 hours 12 minutes (100%) was really any good. Even after the internet came along, we still didn't really have video sharing, much less gaming videos, much less streaming for quite a while. So eventually, sure, I found out that my time wasn't all that great, but at the time (I guess 5 years ago?) I was able to improve my own time to somewhere around 1:40 (except that was any%). I would have kept with it, but at that point it seemed like everybody was doing it and I kinda burned myself out on the game. Now, just in the last five years it seems like they've optimized so much, but I guess the emergence of randomizers has a lot to do with that as well. Oh shoot, gotta go record. Bye!

  • @hayabusa8314
    @hayabusa8314 5 років тому +25

    I was a participant in this year's CTWC. Was a casual player for 20+years, competitive for 3 years now. My improvement came from hours of practice nearly everyday, constantly watch others play whether it was beginners or experts while they streamed, studying playing methods from previous CTWC events and having a highly supportive community of Tetris players who want to see everyone improve their game. My 2 years ago in attempting to qualify my highest game was maybe a 550K. Going into this year's event my highest is currently a 995K. To me there's a lot that goes into getting better with this game. TONS of trial and error, learning to be more than 2 steps/blocks ahead, stacking methods that work best for you, looking back on your games seeing what were good moves or where things could have been better placed, and more. Converse with the community, learn from each other.

    • @brodindamp
      @brodindamp 5 років тому +1

      Paul 'Mega RetroMan' Tesi It was great to watch your play on livestream! I can confirm that watching professionals such as jonas has helped my own play considerably

    • @hayabusa8314
      @hayabusa8314 5 років тому

      Thank you Allen. I felt this year went much better than last year even with the bevy of heavy hitters. It's going to come to the point in the future where those who qualify are players who have maxed the score or have come severely close to it. I still have lots of room to grow. Hope your gameplay improves and a maxout is in your near future.

    • @ChicagoDude
      @ChicagoDude 4 роки тому

      You knocked out Jonas this year! You fire dude!

  • @prabhavsthapit653
    @prabhavsthapit653 5 років тому +80

    John refueling my tetris addiction

  • @MirorR3fl3ction
    @MirorR3fl3ction 5 років тому +107

    So in software terms, while the Internet as a technology may be scalable, the Social Internet it seems is not.

    • @vlogbrothers
      @vlogbrothers  5 років тому +40

      I think that may prove to be correct. -John

    • @MirorR3fl3ction
      @MirorR3fl3ction 5 років тому +2

      Holy crap hi John!! :D

    • @luciabee
      @luciabee 5 років тому +12

      @@vlogbrothers It makes sense that you sign your comments with your name but it still always reminds me of, like, a grandma who doesn't fully understand texting. It's kinda fun and endearing though, I like it

    • @SwichKnight
      @SwichKnight 5 років тому +9

      Reminds me of that Reddit chat room experiment. After the chats grew to a certain size, conversation got drowned out by the noise.

    • @miku4977
      @miku4977 5 років тому

      +

  • @undeniablySomeGuy
    @undeniablySomeGuy 5 років тому +29

    (now level 33 is the highest achieved)

    • @hsuhorn
      @hsuhorn 5 років тому +1

      Miguel! I Draw! By my boy Joseph Saelee

    • @balbar_b
      @balbar_b 4 роки тому +6

      34 now

    • @psychotheunsane7285
      @psychotheunsane7285 4 роки тому

      @@balbar_b within a month of my post here, Joseph will reach level 35. He's gotten within 3 lines of it now.

    • @balbar_b
      @balbar_b 4 роки тому

      @@psychotheunsane7285 yeah i know

    • @moneymikz
      @moneymikz 4 роки тому +2

      Joseph hit 35 yesterday

  • @cribbles3476
    @cribbles3476 5 років тому +9

    3:38
    I thought you were going to throw a sponsorship at us.

  • @JamesScantlebury
    @JamesScantlebury 5 років тому +40

    "smaller communities can be more tightly knit" 👀 www.tuataria.com
    It's a cool place where nerdfighters hang out with other wonderful nerds!

    • @AllisonDeVoe
      @AllisonDeVoe 5 років тому +4

      AND PLAY VIDEO GAMES! We apparently need to start our own tetris tournament.

    • @jennahj_
      @jennahj_ 5 років тому

      +++ (yes i would LOVE to play tetris with you nerds)

    • @hagaikiri3682
      @hagaikiri3682 5 років тому

      Yesss tetris channel

    • @froz_studies
      @froz_studies 5 років тому

      + oh hey frens

  • @KatrinaEames
    @KatrinaEames 5 років тому +5

    I work at an arcade and it was so fun to stream the Tetris world championships at work - everyone was so impressed!

  • @carolines7215
    @carolines7215 6 місяців тому +4

    It’s so interesting to come back and watch this after watching aGameScout’s video about Scuti’s accomplishment. The community has come so far!

  • @AstroLizard
    @AstroLizard 5 років тому +1

    Wonderful video! I shouldn't be surprised at this point. Most of what you and Hank do is extremely good! And yet you both continue to surprise me.

  • @Cremo200
    @Cremo200 5 років тому +9

    Hey John, if you find Tetris interesting you might be fascinated by the speedrunning community. It’s similar in its goal to maximize efficiency in games, but with the goal of finishing them as fast as possible. Just a suggestion since you find cooperative internet communities a positive thing.

    • @LadyJuse
      @LadyJuse 5 років тому +1

      Agreed. Speedrunning is really cool and it is amazing that there are so many ways to speedrun

  • @GuanoLad
    @GuanoLad 5 років тому +3

    I learned more about Tetris in this four minutes than I had in the previous 30 years.

  • @Devster41
    @Devster41 5 років тому

    Thank you for doing this video John! I started playing Tetris a year ago and it’s awesome that you’re helping to bring more attention to the game!

  • @echeauxahn3644
    @echeauxahn3644 4 роки тому +1

    Hey it's 2020 now and the world is crazy, but at least Joseph Saelee is still doing INSANE things like reaching level 35 and CHASING A 1.4 MILLION SCORE

  • @purpleboye_
    @purpleboye_ 5 років тому +69

    Because they re-labeled it as a battle royale

    • @02111991Kw
      @02111991Kw 5 років тому

      Top tier comment sir.

    • @quantumhornet211
      @quantumhornet211 5 років тому +1

      They never relabeled it as a battle royale.

    • @miletilblight2181
      @miletilblight2181 5 років тому

      If Thanos is in fortnight could we get Thor in Tetris
      Oh wait

    • @gangger89
      @gangger89 5 років тому

      Tetris 99 will die in a few years. Classic NES Tetris ftw.

    • @derekmartin5340
      @derekmartin5340 4 роки тому +1

      @@gangger89 that's how online games work. It cant last forever

  • @sudipabhattacharya13
    @sudipabhattacharya13 5 років тому +68

    I've never been this early!! Love from India 💛
    - A Dedicated Nerdfighter🤓

    • @varunpathak7210
      @varunpathak7210 5 років тому +4

      Me too!!

    • @GubekochiGoury
      @GubekochiGoury 5 років тому +1

      So you... fight nerds? Like firefighters or crimefighters... but with nerds?

    • @AllieYourAlly
      @AllieYourAlly 5 років тому +4

      Goury Gubekochi I know you’re joking, but no! it’s more like freedom fighters, we fight *for* nerds! :)

    • @saumitjin5526
      @saumitjin5526 5 років тому +2

      Another Indian here!

    • @DirectorTaffy
      @DirectorTaffy 5 років тому

      I too, attack nerds

  • @mr.scurvy
    @mr.scurvy 2 роки тому +1

    Would love to see a follow up video now that level 30+ play seemd to be a requirment just to make the top 16 this year.

  • @bballer99133
    @bballer99133 5 років тому +1

    Joseph winning was an overall victory for the Tetris community. He is only 16 years old and he had only been playing Tetris for a year which sets a really cool precedent for the future of the game as a competition. It was a pleasure to both be there in Portland to physically watch the competition and to talk and hang out with the competitors as the after party. They are all some of the coolest people you can meet.

  • @slpk
    @slpk 5 років тому +28

    The Anthropocene Reviewed podcast, if you liked this video

  • @KunamaElgar
    @KunamaElgar 5 років тому +8

    This was basically a mini episode of The Anthropocene Reviewed and I loved it! All it was missing was the rating - my assumption is five stars.

  • @hrisiiiiiiiiiiiiiii
    @hrisiiiiiiiiiiiiiii 5 років тому +1

    this was awesome. it has made me very happy. thank you

  • @chasegeyer3825
    @chasegeyer3825 5 років тому

    It was fun seeing you on the Classic Tetris Livestreams and hearing your passion for it.

  • @delicioushitlist
    @delicioushitlist 5 років тому +4

    John: *Saying the abbreviation for Nintendo Entertainment System*
    knes

    • @mtimes02
      @mtimes02 5 років тому

      ValiantWake my favorite gaming console is the Ness

  • @Witchblade070502
    @Witchblade070502 5 років тому +27

    Because ....of the man who throws the Tetris piece - I think he is aging :)

    • @rachelorr4426
      @rachelorr4426 5 років тому

      +

    • @Witchblade070502
      @Witchblade070502 5 років тому

      I think my reference was missed by many ... search "The man who throws the Tetris piece" by Bill Martin aka Dr. Noise :) - 2008 People :)

    • @Witchblade070502
      @Witchblade070502 5 років тому +1

      ua-cam.com/video/sD3p5rymZnU/v-deo.html

    • @sonicsophie
      @sonicsophie 5 років тому +1

      Yesss! So glad to find a reference to this song in the comments - love Doctor Noise!

    • @Witchblade070502
      @Witchblade070502 5 років тому

      Thanks - I didn't get very many likes :( - not even from the vlogbrothers - so I was quite sad! I figured not many of us have been around long enough to remember it - but U have been !!

  • @ArtChongExtra
    @ArtChongExtra 5 років тому

    I love this video so much. This kind of stuff is why I've been watching vlogbrothers for years. The extrapolative philosophizing from seemingly simple things is incredibly interesting and opens up whole new worlds of thinking to me.
    Thank you. Please never stop. The world is a better place with you in it.

  • @AshenElk
    @AshenElk 5 років тому +1

    Dang, such distillation of discourse, such concise video. Loved it.

  • @briankenney9528
    @briankenney9528 5 років тому +3

    I feel like the internet is a lot like the plane of Limbo in D&D. Most of it is formless chaos unfit for life, but pockets of stability have been carved out by small communities

  • @BhagyashreeGajra
    @BhagyashreeGajra 5 років тому +15

    I was playing Tetris on my mobile and this pops up! p.s I was on level 20 and it was my highest score 😃

    • @vlogbrothers
      @vlogbrothers  5 років тому +9

      Sorry/you're welcome! :) -John

    • @BhagyashreeGajra
      @BhagyashreeGajra 5 років тому +2

      Thanks John for the Tetris wisdom, so hyped for Pizzamas! Best Wishes.
      Nerdfighter from India 🙅‍♀️

    • @AnisurRahman-gh7cg
      @AnisurRahman-gh7cg 5 років тому

      I can never get past Level 15. XD

  • @rileythewizard
    @rileythewizard 5 років тому

    whenever you tweet about something a lot I get excited for the possible video on the way related to the topic. So I was really happily anticipating this one, and it lived up to every and any expectation.

  • @PeterParker-gx2ys
    @PeterParker-gx2ys 5 років тому +2

    This is the first video of john that i wasnt forced to watch in school, and its great when he isnt taklking about school stuff. 👍

  • @nicocchi
    @nicocchi 5 років тому +5

    The reason why I ended up getting good at Tetris is literally the characters in Puyo Puyo Tetris, and the fact that Puyo is multiplayer-focused. Those things motivated me to get better at the game, litting up my competitive spirit as if it was a puzzle-based fighting game.
    Now, Puyo Puyo Tetris is stupidly unbalanced in Puyo vs Tetris, but that doesn't take away from the merit of me treating seriously what I would otherwise perceive as a time-killer, casual arcade game.
    In my opinion, classic Tetris simply is not as fun because it's slower paced, so my experience might not be relevant to this video, but I just wanted to make notice of the fact that there's a wide variety of ways to enjoy this game, if Nullpomino is anything to go by.

    • @DreckbobBratpfanne
      @DreckbobBratpfanne 4 роки тому

      It is slower in falling speed, but your inputs have to be much faster. (And also you can have droughts where the long bar or other pieces don't show up for a long time)
      Both versions are very interesting though in their own ways, one is totally unfair sometimes and the other has much more weird tricks.

  • @noahzdddd
    @noahzdddd 3 роки тому +3

    Rolling has entered the chat

  • @austinjacob8026
    @austinjacob8026 5 років тому

    Very informative this week thanks John!

  • @tANGERINEchan
    @tANGERINEchan 5 років тому

    Yesssss I was so excited about this years Classic Tetris World Championships and Joseph and seeing John make a video on it has made me want to rewatch the stream of the Grand Finals!

  • @sumez4369
    @sumez4369 5 років тому +11

    Q: "Why are humans suddenly getting better at Tetris?"
    A: Because people fail to realise that other versions of Tetris have existed since even way before the NES one, and what is happening is simply that more people are shifting focus to this version. Both competition and the skill level is still much higher in the 40L sprint and guideline VS communities, but thanks to CTWC there's been a slight shift towards NES as a competitive game that didn't exist before.
    Even in 1989 very few people played it competitively, and as today it was mostly seen as a casual game among the broader demographic.

  • @BlueBoboDoo100
    @BlueBoboDoo100 5 років тому +3

    Kinda wish you had mentioned the Tetris: The Grand Master series. TGM 2 is my favorite Tetris game to watch and play. It's a different ball game, for sure

  • @erica2912
    @erica2912 5 років тому

    What a wholesome video! Thanks, John

  • @katyastr4821
    @katyastr4821 5 років тому

    So I bought my pizza John shirt last year, and over this time, it has brought me so much joy and so many laughs, it's incredible, and i hope with all of my heart that I will be able to get another one this year. And I remember how last year I was kinda worried that it took longer then I expected to get to me and I left a comment under one of the vlogbrothers' videos about it (i rarely ever comment on videos) and a few people replied with words of support and kindness, it was so cool and unexpected, and it still warms my heart to this day. Love you guys, DFTBA

  • @NateandNoahTryLife
    @NateandNoahTryLife 5 років тому +22

    John this author thing is a bit played out maybe you should be a pro gamer

    • @flaming6
      @flaming6 5 років тому

      You dare discourage an artist from their art?! A person from their self care?! Dishonor on your cow!

  • @themaskedcrusader
    @themaskedcrusader 5 років тому +3

    John asks the Important Questions.

  • @kateparker8546
    @kateparker8546 5 років тому

    I used to play this Tetris spin-off where the pieces, rather than falling, came by on a conveyor belt and you had to load them into a boat like cargo. It had the same spatial challenges, urgency, and increasing difficulty of Tetris, but I loved that if you closed off an empty space, you could still fill it. Rows didn't disappear once completed, so perfection was achieved when every space on the boat was full. Many hours were spent loving that game!

  • @harley1063
    @harley1063 5 років тому

    I've been watching vlogbrothers since 2012 and I think the reason I've kept this such a consistent part of my life is because you and Hank both have this relentless optimism, that you both acknowledge the bad and the way the world is changing for the worse, and yet you still find ways in which its changing for the better and go out of your way to share that with others. It's something that shaped me as a person as a depressed 14-year-old and it reminds me of who I want to be. Thank you for choosing to make this your voice in the world.

  • @qfuh8199
    @qfuh8199 5 років тому +4

    *BOOM Tetris for Jeff*

  • @swagzilla3000
    @swagzilla3000 5 років тому +5

    Think joseph has made it to level 33

    • @ArlanKels
      @ArlanKels 5 років тому +2

      He has indeed. He's also trying to get good enough to start at level 29 and go 100 lines. I think the last I Saw he was at 66 lines at 29 speed.

  • @enduringbird
    @enduringbird 5 років тому

    I rarely admire the way you are able to take a random example of something, coherently extract the main themes, and apply them to a larger idea. You do it so well time and time again. I really admire you.

  • @Linkman95
    @Linkman95 5 років тому

    The ability for folks to connect and share more than they could in the past is one of my main explanations on why "vanilla" World of Warcraft didn't have some special difficulty inherent to the content. People don't realize how much the community has changed how people interface with the game.

  • @thelastcube.
    @thelastcube. 5 років тому +3

    TETRIS championship was something I previously thought was something a lame person would watch (despite being into speedcubing which is already a niche thing)
    After watching the Jonas vs Jeff video though
    Me : Jeff is pretty skilled in figuring himself out of complicated situations and has a rather aggressive playstyle while Jonas has a pretty calm playstyle, he patiently clears the field and then attacks when the right block comes
    Which lead me to the VR TETRIS video and eventually I ended up watching the livestream of this year's tournament, what started as a BOOM TETRIS FOR JEFF slowly became something I now really enjoy watching.

  • @lawrencecalablaster568
    @lawrencecalablaster568 5 років тому +21

    I love these Anthropocene Reviewed-style discussions of small facets of human culture :)

  • @OrenMilman
    @OrenMilman 5 років тому

    Extremely inspiring. Thank you John :)

  • @MathHacker42
    @MathHacker42 5 років тому

    Man, you guys are always so thoughtful and valuable, I don't know how you keep it up.

  • @claytonj2695
    @claytonj2695 4 роки тому +3

    Why do the best tetris players have a name that starts with J

  • @kinleybowman7069
    @kinleybowman7069 5 років тому +3

    It’s going to be my first pizzamas as a nerd fighter I’m so excited.

  • @carterhanson8101
    @carterhanson8101 5 років тому

    This feels like a classic Vlogbrothers video. I love when you guys just talk about the nerdy stuff that you like, but give it a depth that makes it so much more.

  • @MichaelSmith-iv2rp
    @MichaelSmith-iv2rp 5 років тому

    This is the most inspiring thing I have ever heard anyone say about the internet. I might be starting to tear up. Thank you!!

  • @fatihmehmetbeyaz9030
    @fatihmehmetbeyaz9030 5 років тому +8

    Baris ozcandan gelen işsiz var mi

  • @No0utlet
    @No0utlet 5 років тому +7

    66 people disliked this video so they could be part of a more tight-knit community.
    4 people liked this comment to be even more tight-knit.

  • @LXRS_
    @LXRS_ 5 років тому

    How can you possibly make 3 minutes so interesting and entertaining, I’ve never been interested in Tetris at all but you made it sound so interesting and I kinda want to check it out now! John Green you are incredible!

  • @torben4339
    @torben4339 5 років тому

    Once you start noticing John turning his head to the left every now and then, it is almost impossible to unsee it

  • @Midrule
    @Midrule 5 років тому +12

    Why it’s impossible to win Tetris 99 if you’re not a pro

    • @DreckbobBratpfanne
      @DreckbobBratpfanne 4 роки тому

      I wouldn't say that, it is possible. I've done it 13 times now, it is very hard and sometimes if 9 people attack you at once you have no chance, but it is possible with some training even without doing all those weird tricks like All clears and t spin towers and chains and what not. Tetris 99 Invictus is a different story, this is hardcore stuff, but i would say you could grind it even if you're not a pro.

    • @sink9035
      @sink9035 4 роки тому +1

      Dreckbob Bratpfanne I disagree with the more people attacking you the worse, it gives you a great boost in kills and badges

    • @DreckbobBratpfanne
      @DreckbobBratpfanne 4 роки тому

      @@sink9035 it does but still if you make one mistake in such circumstances you're done.

    • @sink9035
      @sink9035 4 роки тому

      Dreckbob Bratpfanne true

  • @sadgiraffe6669
    @sadgiraffe6669 5 років тому +4

    Imagine if the the title said fish instead of humans

    • @yveltalsea
      @yveltalsea 5 років тому

      i would be very very concerned

  • @bradleysampson8230
    @bradleysampson8230 5 років тому

    There are tons of communities online just like this and I find them so beautiful and fascinating! For instance, in the last 10 years the world record average for solving a 3x3 Rubik's Cube has gone from 11.28 to 5.80 seconds. As an amateur speedcuber, I can now regularly achieve times that would have been the best in the world just a decade ago, all thanks to the passionate community that has been working together towards a common goal.

  • @KFaria27
    @KFaria27 5 років тому

    Easily one of my top five vlogbro videos. Love it!

  • @3rkid
    @3rkid 5 років тому +3

    This was definitely about the Dream lol.

  • @Aabil11
    @Aabil11 5 років тому +10

    Who knew the meta for a 30 year old game could still be evolving

  • @neverthelessthesun1428
    @neverthelessthesun1428 5 років тому

    John and Hank make my internet better, and the personal internet spheres of thousands, if not millions of us. Thanks for making my internet better.

  • @mooky01
    @mooky01 5 років тому

    Joseph seems to be a legend. He just beat the seven time world champion.
    That man was world champion when Joseph was 9 years old.
    Mind-Blown.

  • @nickshpiece9441
    @nickshpiece9441 5 років тому +25

    I can’t watch this video with John calling the NES “Ness”

    • @RottingDragon
      @RottingDragon 5 років тому +4

      A lot of people call it that.

    • @19amm
      @19amm 5 років тому

      How do you say it?

    • @nickshpiece9441
      @nickshpiece9441 5 років тому +6

      Àngels you say the letters so “En” EE” “ES”

    • @19amm
      @19amm 5 років тому +1

      @@nickshpiece9441 thank you

    • @kovatoro
      @kovatoro 5 років тому +3

      Most people don’t “N” “A” “ S” “A”. They say NASA, so it makes sense that people would say NES instead of awkwardly spelling out the acronym.

  • @thundermover4258
    @thundermover4258 5 років тому +4

    My hypothesis is that latency is much lower and inputs are much much better

    • @snoboreddotcom
      @snoboreddotcom 5 років тому +1

      Depends on if it's emulator or classic. Emulator that may easily factor in. But tournaments are generally played on NES with and NED controller, so there should be almost no difference

  • @fep1023
    @fep1023 5 років тому

    I've never watched competitive Tetris before in my life, but I was on the edge of my seat watching Joseph in those finals.

  • @stickbugorozzie6371
    @stickbugorozzie6371 4 роки тому +1

    Okay but like Joseph is like breaking his own records every day even a year after this video. Hes at like what... level 35? This kid is insane.