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- Gohan is up against Cell... What is he going to do?? Can he defeat Cell?? Will Gohan be pushed to the edge?? Will he be able to finish the job????
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Also, Yamcha's wish was for EVERYONE killed by Cell on Earth to be brought back. That includes 17. If we argue semantics, you can say it should include 16 but that's assuming he had "life"
While he’s not included, the picture between the end credit scenes is meant, by TFS, to show that 16 did, indeed, have a soul, and went to heaven.
One one hand though, it makes sense that Shenron wouldn't be able to revive 16, since the body still needs to be intact for Shenron to bring somebody back to life. But then that creates problems with 17. So no matter how you slice it, it doesn't make a whole lot of sense.
17 was once human with a soul. 16 was purely artificial
If you want to be semantically nit-picky - and honestly, magic wishes usually do go all monkey's-paw over those sort of details - not actually being "alive," 16 couldn't be "killed," only "destroyed." So he couldn't be brought *back* to life.
@@trolleyfan but if he was rebuilt with the same personality and memories intact they could use shenron to theoretically BRING him to life
Kinda broke my heart that you said they dragged gohans transformation out, it's such a huge and tragic moment and you spent half if it talking about bulma
Prince15549 you cared enough to reply
@Prince15549 and he is still caring enough to reply
@Prince15549 and look at that he is still here not caring
@Prince15549 brother I'm not trying to make any point, you sent the first message remember
I love how Cell is portrayed in the final part. His calm and prideful demeanor have gone out the window and he’s clearly losing it. Though unlike Frieza’s more manic meltdown, Cell is more frightening. He’s still pompous and charming, but he’s screaming and more so than ever before, everything he says is just dripping murderous intent.
His “Worst case scenario, you die and get stronger. IT DID WONDERS FOR ME!” line is a great example of him just barely holding it together
17 was revived alongside everyone else, as he's just part mechanical (a cyborg), he was considered a living being.
I didn’t expect you to react to all three parts, but I’m looking forward to it.
It’s gonna be a long one…
I'm glad she did it that way, it's one of those things that just doesn't seem right to split up.
"Gonna be a long one" THATS WHAT SHE SAID (sorry)
@steph.reacts that's what she said
Steph: "Break his arm."
Yamcha: "Please don't break my arm."
Damian: "Mmm... No."
10/10
Such a Damian thing to do.. (Batman)
The reason Jimmy Firecracker is so hurt at being called a "talking head" is that it's a slang term for a pundit, someone on a news show blowing a bunch of hot air
What a journey from episode 1 to now
And it’s not the end!!!!
I know, I got on this train when Friza (lol) was getting smacked. Have loved the ride..
most iconic serious dbza moment: "wow they really dragged this out"
Right
and in the original cut the fight lasted like 10 episodes probably
I wouldn't say "most iconic", but definitely a big moment in the series. So yeah, they needed to give it time to breathe.
King Kai's line still gets me every time.
"Thanks for specifying 'on Earth' by the way! YAMCHA! YOU A**HOLE!"
Revenge for having Tien break his leg at the end of the Freeza saga
I always took Ox saying "You have another one coming" as an exclamation to her safety when she was dropping, like saying to be careful, you have one on the way. 😅
They dragged that scene out because it was the coolest motherfucking thing any 8 to 12 year old had ever God damn seen lmao. Still gives me chills especially with the TFS cover song.
The cell jr's explode as a way to censor their death. In the manga he straight up dismember them with each hit. It's flesh and blood.
Now all that's left is the Epilogue, dbz: kai abridged and the Buu Bits
And the DragonShortZ
"there you stand... the good man doing nothing" is such an amazing line, referencing that famous quote "all it takes for evil to win is for good men to do nothing".
That style of chip looks a lot like Ram. Which means that once power is lost, there's nothing on it. His personality and "self" died when the light went out.
- They had that music custom-made, so you are probably fine.
- The Cell Jrs were biological. The anime has them explode for censorship reasons. The scene was incredibly brutal in the manga.
Oh yes, he slices one so hard their head explodes, and you see an eyeball and brains go flying.
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It's actually revealed in the manga that the Cell Jrs actually survived, and regenerated after everyone left. Eventually they found their way to the island Android 17 ranges/lives on, and he "tamed" them, they were actually who he trained with.
They run into Goten and Trunks and attack them, but once they realize they're Park Rangers, they apologize and leave them alone
Android 17 was in Cell's original body, which exploded, therefore 17 technically died. That's how he was revived.
Didn't (spoilers!!!!!) He come back in Super though? I haven't finished that series but I thought he was back as a park ranger like they joked around in Abridged?
@@Fat_Kids_Jiggle Spoilers for the Buu saga, but yeah you briefly see him as a park ranger. Then he makes a full return in Super.
@@Fat_Kids_Jiggle He was back as park ranger since his appearence in Boo saga, anime even expanded that by making him force two poachers to raise their hands for the final Genki Dama.
When 16 retorted to Jimmy Firecracker, he was referring to a different kind of talking head.
In media, a "talking head" is a reporter or commentator that is usually shown in a close view, their head. So instead of a full body shot, or showing them behind a desk, you're being reported or commentated to by a *talking head.*
Note that Jimmy didn't exactly *deny* it, either!😂
And the names of the Cell Jr's are the names of the voice actors that have played Cell over the years. The most prominent is Norio (named for Norio Wakamoto), but you can't forget Curtis (named for Curtis Arnott, AKA Takahata101, AKA *this* version of Cell). The only one not named for a Cell VA is Vegeta Jr Jr (named for one of Nappa's Saibamen (who was named for, and immediately murdered by, Prince Vegeta, who was named for his father, who, himself, was named for his father, who was, in turn, named for *his* father) from season 1).
I love how she made different counters for some stuff. Thanks Steph 🖤
TFS did such an amazing job with this episode, the writing, editing and music were all on point. MasakoX who voices both Goku and Gohan does an amazing job too. They really did go out on a high note.
I really liked the way they handled Goku and Gohan's relationship. There are way too many people piling on the "Goku is a bad Dad" or "Piccolo is Gohan's real Dad" memes. Goku is no Dad of the year by any means but maybe Piccolo is, the guy who threatened to snap Gohan's neck if he didn't stop crying and then threw him into a mountain, maybe Vegeta is, the guy who did not care when Bulma and baby Trunks were about to die, insults Trunks at every oppertunity and punches him in the stomach because Trunks said something he didn't like.
The truth is that Goku loves his son and wants the best for him, every time Goku is dead or training, it's usually to save the world which is kind of important as you know, they kind of live there. And the classic go to example is when Raditz shows up and kidnaps Gohan, Goku's first instinct is to go after Raditz to save Gohan even though in a 1 on 1 Goku would certainly die. He sacrificed himself so that Piccolo could kill Raditz in order to protect Gohan, does this sound like a bad Dad? Or a Dad who is willing to do anything in order to protect his son? When Goku arrives to the battle with Nappa the first thing he does is Gohan and Krillin a senzu, he does the same on Namek. In all these instances Goku is not there because he wants a good fight, he is protecting the people he loves.
No. 17 was absorbed by Cell, so when Cell died so did No. 17. When Yamcha wishes for all those killed by Cell to come back to life, No. 17 is included. Not sure if the absorbtion counted as him dying or Cell dying as him dying. In the original series they don't show No. 17 but I believe No. 18 does mention going to find him. He does not appear at all apart from a tiny cameo at the end of the series although he does return in Dragon Ball GT and Super.
Piccolo is a massive hypocrite
Due to 18 not dying when she was absorbed, I'm going to say 17 didn't die from it, either. Still, if he died when Cell exploded, then it doesn't make much sense that he would revive from a wish for everyone 'on Earth' killed by Cell to be revived, because he wouldn't have been on Earth at the time he died. Does the dragon allow some time to pass, or is it because he's from Earth, even though that wasn't what the wish specified? I dunno, I always saw 17's continued existence as strange.
@@kuggacouragegx6093 Someone changing isn't the same as being a hypocrite. He even admits that he was a jerk before.
@@genostellar when did he admit he was a jerk? Also yes and no. Just cause u changed doesn't means u aren't a hypocrite at all nor anymore.
Piccolo started it. Gohan didn't wanted to fight nor train at all, he was literally a toddler when it began, meaning he literally have no right to be talking at all nor get in their business at all and bs, while Gohan consented to fight kn his own will to save his dad, the namekians and dende, to find the androids, to train with his dad, where piccolo forced him to fight and even Gohan in the abridged talked about how piccolo would let him fight cell while goku telling him not to go.
Goku didn't forced his son to do nothing at all. So yes goku was being a dad and piccolo was being a massive hypocrite
@@kuggacouragegx6093 "Just cause u changed doesn't means u aren't a hypocrite"
I never said that changing doesn't mean you're not a hypocrite, I said that in this case he wasn't being a hypocrite because what happened was that he changed. Being a hypocrite would be if he thought bad about someone for doing what he does, not for doing what he did and realized was not okay.
"when did he admit he was a jerk?"
He said he was "kind of a dick" if you want the actual words. Remember when he was trying to get Kami to fuse with him? That's when he said it.
"Gohan didn't wanted to fight nor train at all, he was literally a toddler when it began, meaning he literally have no right to be talking at all"
This is exactly my point. He wasn't being a hypocrite there, he changed. Learn the difference. People can think and do different things from what they thought or did in the past and that doesn't make them a hypocrite, it makes them different than they were before. A hypocrite is someone who tells you not to do something that they themselves would currently do. Piccolo has not only changed, but he has two other personalities in him influencing him. He isn't the same person who kidnapped Gohan before.
"Goku didn't forced his son to do nothing at all."
Actually, yeah he did. As Gohan told him, he didn't have a choice, he was given an ultimatum. And yes, Goku kidnapped him, so you really haven't been following this too closely.
So there are two main points here. You need to pay more attention and learn what the difference between a hypocrite and a changed man are.
For context on the Cell Jr.’s, they are organic. Gohan is just so strong that this is the impact he has on them.
And in the manga it was way more brutal
To be clear... Gohan is hitting the Cell Jrs so hard that they're just atomizing. He's _that_ strong there.
Not to mention he did the same to the two Henchgoons in Bojack Unbound! Where he used his Aura to slice them in Two!
Pretty sure it’s just a form of censorship for the anime.
Because in the manga, they don’t explode. It’s blood and guts.
17 was killed when cell blew himself up, so the Dragon brought him back to life when they made the wish.
Also they did an abridged version of the buu saga recently, although its heavily condensed in just a few episodes
but yamcha specified "on earth"... cell blew himself up on king kai's planet- so it shouldn't have brought him back
Dragon Shortz first then either HFIL or Buu Bits
@@craigimeI thought that too, but one could argue that they were "dead" while inside cell and c18 got "revived" after been spit out. Or Otherwise that c17 was part of the surviving semi perfect cell and got killed with perfecter cell by Gohan on earth.
@@Shunrar how do you argue that c18 was dead and got "revived "? How did that happen?
@@craigimeWell... Since it's a kind of soft fantasy it's not a perfect (hehe) explanation, but I think it's hard to believe that C17 and C18 stayed fully human formed inside Cell. Maybe the shock of the hit from Gohan was a trigger for Cells body not only to barf from the pain, but to repel the last thing he absorbed (like we throw up with food poisening) since it would have been a fast replication from his living tissue like a pregnancy, she got back "reborn" to her prior status.
I'm sure you've been told this, but due to a recent project, TFS came out with what's called the Buu Bits, where they did various scenes from the Buu Saga. It's not episodic and more like a series of 30 second to 2 minute clips.
The reason they stopped was mostly due to fatigue. They've been going for about 10 years at this point and while they were able to mostly agree with what they wanted to do with the series up to this point, a big case of writer's block hit around this time. It was mostly exposed when trying to write for the Bojack movie, which was nixed. Apparently, one of the big issues was the three main writers (Kaiserneko, Lanipator, and Takahata101) couldn't agree on how Buu should be. Also, the Buu Saga is the longest saga in the series. To put this into perspective, between episode 59 and 60, it took an ENTIRE year for them to have a script they were happy with, get the recordings done, and finish the editing. When episode 60 (part 1) aired, Kaiserneko was working on the finishing touches of part 2.
What also got to them was the constant issues with copyright strikes. Around this time, it was almost every week they were getting different episodes pulled from youtube and would frequently have to fight to get them back up. With youtube constantly changing the way they do things, they weren't sure if they had the energy to deal with this issue anymore so they figured to quit on a high note where they can be proud with their work rather than drag it and possibly become miserable. Kaiserneko (the main editor and I think the main boss of TFS) even said that all the frustrations started leading them to HATE the series, which is never a good thing when they all started the project out of love the series.
At the time, they were riding on a high and initially thought they had the energy to do the Buu Saga. This quickly wore off though. If you re-watch not only Goku's goodbye to his son and friends, but his monologue with King Kai, you can get the feeling that all of that was TFS saying those things to US as the audience. They were ready to stop. And like they said, it wasn't forever as not only did we get the Shortz and HFIL, but also Buu Bits earlier this year.
Since then, they've worked on original artwork to make Dragonball Shortz (one episode involved Chichi giving birth to Goten) and HFIL (featuring Cell arriving in Hell). Since both of these had original animation, they didn't have to worry about copyright strikes AND they weren't limited on what footage already existed.
I don't think you should react to them, but they recently finished doing commentary for the entire series. They clue in some of the ideas and behind the scenes happenings on various parts. Definitely should give it a watch during your personal time.
Also check out my favorite series of theirs, UnAbridged.
1:01:40 Vegeta just doesnt want to be around them, in this parody version. In the actual story, Vegeta was having an existential crisis after Goku finally died for a second time, and knowing he wouldnt be able to come back, he finds himself unable to prove his might over Goku. Vegeta, all alone, swears to never ever fight again in his life, and (allegedly) sinks into depression.
It gets so bad that, in a non-canon movie that sadly we wont get from TFS, everyone is called to a special tournament where everyone is going to participate, even the "Z fighters", and Vegeta is just at home, watching TV. Sees the tournament on TV, and just changes channel.
In the actual series (at least in the dub), Cell's explanation for how he returned to his final form is that his nucleus had recorded the essence of his completed state, so when he regenerated from just his nucleus the cellular data that was replicated was that of his complete form. Not in those exact words mind you, but that's how it breaks down based on his explanation. The Super Saiyan 2 equivalent power and aura were the Zenkai Boost being added onto that.
Watch the epilogue and the buu bits. Afterwards check out Dragon Ball and Dragon Ball Super.
she said dragon ball super is the only one she'll watch since dragon ball and Z are too long... also she said that she'll watch a few (about 20) highly recommended episodes of the buu saga
Z is way too long. I get that. I mean the buu bits. Shortens the buu saga into 2 parts
Trunks and Vegeta flipping each other off is a TFS edit I'm pretty sure. Guys aren't typically too open with each other about affection because it feels like vulnerability, so they exchange mock displays of hostility instead. It's like how sarcasm is recognizable as "I mean the opposite of what I'm saying"; Trunks and Vegeta are saying "I regard you with the opposite of contempt".
yeah in the original they do the V for Victory sign to each other
I have totally enjoyed watching your reaction to this series. From your excellent guessing, reactions of babies, and many other moments I totally had a blast witnessing your reaction to each episode. Looking forward to be a longtime fan of your effort. ❤
The issue with 16's chip is it was removed from all power sources, which wiped it. Everything that made him who he was vanished into the ether and the dragon can only revive organic life, but with 17 the situation was a bit different, as he was killed by Cell on Earth and was partially organic. Also, a little point that is never explained, when someone has the crackling energy around them it means they've become Super Saiyan 2, which has twice the power multiplier. Then the end scene with Krillin, when he said he was a grower it was followed by a thud. Think he's doin' just fine for himself.
Sadly, TeamFourStar will never abridge the Buu Saga, and it's because they were burnt out after finishing season 3. They said that they preferred to end the series here rather than go on and make season 4 half-heartedly. However, they did abridge some clips from the Buu Saga for one of TotallyNotMark's videos, and they recently released a compilation of those clips called the Buu Bits. Definitely worth a watch, but it may be hard to follow if you haven't seen the full Buu Saga already.
What a journey this has been! Glad to have been here for it!
Dragonball Z Abridged is a deep felt family drama as a non-profit, fan-based parody. You actually picked up the first time they spoke the theme, in the episode they first speak it.
Team Four Star actually did something called Buu Bits which is a two part thing of the Buu Saga for a video series totally not mark did. You can find a compliation of both parts
The Cell Jr exploding in smoke is only in the anime. In the comics, there is blood and guts.
"I think we missed a few steps there." Not really. 17 was killed by Cell. So the wish brought him back.
17 was killed with cell on kaio's planet. the wish brought back everyone that was killed "on earth". so yes, they missed a few steps.
@@craigimeGohan killed cell, on Earth
The problem with the teleportation technique is that Goku cannot teleport anywhere anywhere or just emptynsoace, he needs a ki to go to. So he went to a god who was meant to be immortal that he knew.
38:14 I'm SOOOOOO glad you didn't see that coming xD
There is also the Cell vs. Videos, HFIL, and Buu bits.
Your the realist youtube reactor on the platform i think! Watched the whole series in a couple days and you def earned my subscription thank you for the content!
Welcome aboard man!!! Much MUCH more to come!!!
@@steph.reacts look forward so much to the buu saga ima get caught up tonight!
Also goku had no idea about ssj2
He tought gohan's anger wouldve make him go full force, cuz gohan already had enough power, ssj2 was basically overkill
in the Dragon Ball Manga, Cell Jr doesn't blow up, instead you see their organs like eyes popping out and brains, The Anime got some censorship going on for sometimes
Well it’s been a wild ride since episode 1…
The owned counter started with Krillin getting slammed into Kame house. And it ended with Krillin slamming in Kame house.
Android 17 died when Cell self destructed and then when they asked Shenron to revive all of Cell’s victims it included 17 because he was one of them.
1:05:37 there’s a very subtle detail in the special thanks segment of the credits where they show android 16 with some birds.
Before the picture fades out, you can see that there’s a halo over his head.
Meaning, that 16 truly did have a soul
That song was written and recorded for this piece specifically. There should be no copyright claim, as TeamFourStar would have to bring it against you, which is anathema to what they do.
If you mean the song that plays during Gohan's transformation then no that song wasn't specifically written for DBZA because that's the song from the original Japanese version TFS just made an english cover for it to use in episode 60.
26:34 they explode for censoring, search up gohan killing the cell JRs in the manga in colour cuz it is brutal
1:01:27
To play devils advocate
Trunks future has been nothing but death and destruction by the androids.while most of the cast have been fug ups in there own way since he got there(especially the legendary GOKU) krillin not only wanting to get with 18,but also almost sacrificing the entire planet for her…….yeah I wouldn’t have much love for him either 🤷🏾♂️
Fun side note because you made the comment about epilepsy with all the flashing lights? Through the entire series Scott (Trunks' voice) always made sure they avoided the colors and speed of flashing that triggers epilepsy. So none of those shots are unsafe for anyone who has that issue.
43:51 Although from the fact he cares more about Trunks, I feel like it's also all the accumulation of the fact he feels useless. His rival that gave him a reason to keep pushing himself up is dead, with his 11 yo son (Gohan) being the strongest at that point, and couldn't even protect his own son.
Knowing Vegeta and his pride, he just felt like total shit after all that, so he just tried whatever he could, but nothing... So going through all that, all he had to say was "sorry" in the end.
17 is brought back to life. We don't see him again until much later.
TFS did make Buu Saga recently, though just one one short clip show, possibly not enough to get the whole plot from
Cell Jrs exploded because of anime censorship, in the manga Gohan just dismembered them.
Still weird that 16s death is the reason that pushed Gohan past the brink when he has seen people die all the time, including his friends. And for someone he has never even talked to at all.
They should’ve killed off goku to push him to ssj2
It's less about 16 and more about his words.
In the past it was only zenkai and he wasn't as powerful as right now ( cell saga ) . And then Goku isn't the strongest anymore , it's all on Gohan , and everyone is about to die at the same time unlike in the past .
Gohan is exposed to people dying all the time but 16 was the most senseless death for him. He was just an android who loved life. It would be like killing a baby, an unnecessary death like that is what ultimately pushes Gohan
They left out when Cell powered up to full power, shaking the planet (probably 2-3x powerful), and Gohan catching 2 large full powered Destructo Disks with his fists. When Gohan folds Cell with 2 punches, that is after he powered up.
The Cell Jrs. are actually organic. In the Manga there is blood and organs flying around, they just toned it down for the Anime. ✌
26:35 The anime actually censored the Cell Jrs deaths with smoke because in the manga Gohan just hits them so hard their insides just kinda spill out, eye balls, brain matter, intestines. So yes the Jrs are bio-mechanical and infact living things.
when in doubt, remember: the magic wish granting dragon did it
If you're looking for more too watch, there is always Sword Art Online Abridged, for dbz there are the HIFL episodes, TFS made a Final Fantasy 7 abridged series, and there's also Goblin Slayer Abridged. If you want my opinion, Sword Online Abridged is widely regarded as one of the top Abridged series
17 dies when he is absorbed by Cell, not when Cell dies when he gets disintegrated by Gohan. The wish was to revive everyone on Earth killed by Cell, so 17 comes back.
At least I'm pretty sure lol
who told you that? 18 was still alive when she got absorbed by cell, so it would follow that 17 was too... so 17 died when cell blew up on kaio's planet- so the wish shouldn't have brought him back
Oh ur right actually lol, but I'd argue that Cell blowing himself up and killing 17 in the process should be considered 17 dying by Cell.
I can't imagine Cell reproducing machine parts, unless it's like organic super conductors. It's sci fi but even in something in the line of synthetic people/androids it feels weird to think they're fully mechs.
Glad you enjoyed the show, it's a whole trip in itself. Sadly Buu saga was canceled because of burn out but they made a segment of shorts from gags they had. You could also speed watch the kai segments that are just a shortened version of their abridge (Kai being the shortened no filler version of DBZ, hence Kai Abridged is just a few minutes or the missing segment of the Garlic Arc)
if you're thinking of the cell jrs, then they're organic
To answer your question to how 17 lived,its because he also died With goku and others when cell blew up
So when they made there wish to ring evryobe back,he also returns
Also rip 16 😔
17 didn't die on earth
@@Elijah17439 plot hole then in the original series
@@sonicboii7378 It's not, 17 died when Cell died on Earth, not when he blew himself.
Android 17 was destroyed with Cell, however he was revived by the Dragon Balls with the wish to revive everyone killed because of Cell.
but the wish was to revive people killed on earth- cell died on kaio's planet
The thing that poured out of 16 could be considered oil, but Im sure its supposed to me simbolical, as in the only one that was fully machine in this entire situation was the one that was the most human person.
Cell and his cell juniors are all bio-engenniered. The animation toned it down with the explosions, because the manga panels were very gory, with their eyes and entrails spilling all out.
Adding to the chorus that's pointing out that the wish was to bring back everyone killed by Cell, and that did technically include 17.
To be completely fair though, it's not really clear in the original series either (TFS actually made it clearer with the bit of him waking up in the field). The implication is there in the manga/anime (there's actually a whole bit TFS yeeted into the sun where 18 yells at Krillin because he assumed she and 17 were a couple, because them being siblings was not actually established), but 17 isn't actually shown as being alive until basically the end of the whole series.
On another note... So TFS did end up doing SOME of the Buu saga, with what are known as the "Buu Bits", but I can't honestly recommend them for you. They're not really the whole saga... they're just little tiktok-y gags that let them do all the jokes and scenes they regretted not getting to, but without knowing the story they're going to be pretty meaningless. For fans like me who know the story they're great, but they aren't really meant for stand-alone viewing.
That said, they are also continuing, sort of, with two other shows set in the DB universe: Dragon Shorts and HFIL. The former is hit or miss (I love the Vegeta one, Yamcha one is meh), but HFIL is where they've been focusing the last few years and it's really fun.
17 was killed on kaio's planet along with cell... the wish was meant to bring everyone back who died "on earth"
@craigime the whole thing is screwy in the manga and in tfs. Kaioshin supposedly declined resurrection in the manga, but that makes no sense because he was already in the afterlife and could have traveled with Goku regardless of having a halo, and his actions in both the afterlife filler arc AND Super make it clear he wasn't a fan of being dead at all. Tfs specifying on earth makes things a bit neater and more consistent.
That said, you can hand wave it in one of two ways. Either he effectively died when cell absorbed him (thus why he appeared in the same island) and the dragon counted that OR whatever dna remained of him as part of Cell's genetic template finally died when Gohan blew Cell up, making Cell responsible for his death while he was on earth.
And before you go "that's a stretch" the Manga had Guru come back to life because he died early due to grief over the namekians. 17 being allowed a resurrection on that kind of technicality is hardly a first.
Team 4 star did make a group of shorts called Buu Bits. It was a collection of scenes from the Buu saga jokes they made.
Super duper saiyan aka gohan's iconic Super Saiyan 2 transformation
Goku took Cell to King Kai because to teleport he needs to home in to someone else's energy, he can't teleport to an empty place.
vegeta didn't go to the lookout with them.
in the original after piccolo talks to him he says he is no longer a true warrior or something as he helped gohan kill cell even though it was needed and flies off
21:16 it wouldn’t matter if they rebuilt 16. It wouldn’t be the same 16, because everything _that_ 16 learned and loved about Earth died with him. It’s like if they rebuilt Arnie from T2. The moment he’s online, he’s basically in factory reset mode, everything he learned is gone and he’d have to relearn it again, with no guarantee that 16 has the same feelings and personality this time
Actually tfs added that 17 scene, the original didn't even hint at that, 17 was just there later on
Team Four Did an abridged of the Abridged Buu Saga; it's called the 'Buu Bits' Give them a go after you finish up the Epilogue and Christmas jazz.
Also, Congrats on completing this and being a part of the DBA community; peace!
I'm sad you missed the Death Note reference. I'm also sad that you missed the biggest father moment Goku had with Gohan when he sacrificed himself. I'm super sad you skipped Cell's version of My Way. TFS didn't do the full Buu Saga because they were suffering from burnout and copyright issues. They did do some Buu Saga clips when TotallyNotMark did a Buu Saga review, you should check those out. 17 was revived in both the abridged and main series from the dragon balls.
She didn't skip it, it's in her Patreon
Always interesring to see fans come up with sometimes better explanations for perfecter cell
"Talking head" used to refer to news people/commentators. They're a talking head on the screen.
How did 17 leave Cell.... I have no idea. I kind of assumed he just needed a chip or programing that was contained in each android to finish his development into a perfect fighter, so he'd just digest the rest of them. Why he had the whole android in is weird. I sort of like the idea he got punched so hard he had the perfect knocked out of him or have like a 17 egg with her face on it, again it comes down to why keep the full body inside him.
Can you tell this is the part the editor made a bunch of changes, how it seems to pivot between the androids, the other androids, Cell and then Cell without big lips.
that makes no sense
@38:15 that's the biggest reaction I've ever seen from you Steph! 😂😂😂
I can't be the only one who thinks Trunks' death would have been the perfect catalyst for Vegeta to achieve his own Super Saiyan 2 state, right? He winds up achieving it in the timeskip, presumably through the same forced method that is discovered/detailed by the Universe 6 Saiyans, but am I alone in thinking that it would have been poetic if this menace from the future ultimately sealed his fate by killed a second iteration of Future Trunks, this time in front of a past iteration of Trunks' dad, and then said father lost it, went Super Saiyan 2, and basically one-shot Cell with a massive Big Bang Attack or something?
So 17 and 18 were originally humans, so wishing them back with the dragon balls as people killed by Cell would still work. 17 was still killed by cell hence he woke up on the island where he was absorbed :)
"Poor guy," she says after the thud of his junk hitting the floor. Lol
Nice reaction as always, Steph, there’s the epilogue, Dragon Shortz, HFIL, and they did kinda do the Buu saga in a part called Buu Bits
The thing with Cyborg 16 (yes, Cyborg) is that he was purely mechanical and his conscience was just a glitch. That's also why Gero kept him in the basment.
If you rebuild him, it will just be a new 16 without what makes the original what he was.
Also yes, he had organic parts but was mostly mechanical unlike 18 and 17.
So, no resurrection. That's why is death is so impactfull. You can't revive him.
Also... Oh yeah, cell is organic. So are his cell junior. The smoke and explosions are here to cover what the manga showed: they are gored. Like YEAH! Really gored by Gohan.
They focused on the chip to illustrate that 16 has completely died.
41:29 "It looked like they exploded Kami's planet."
King Kai's planet, actually. You probably just misspoke, but just in case.
Also, while TFS didn't make a Buu saga, they DID make a clip show called The Buu Bits, so you could react to that. It won't tell you everything that happened, but it should still be fun.
0:37 I agree but goku named Gohan becoz his adopted grandpa name is Gohan. So It kinda sentimental
17 was brought back to life from the first wish, just like all the normal humans Cell completely absorbed into himself while he powered up first form...not having a body wasn't a problem here.
the first wish specified "on earth". 17 died on kaio's planet with cell
3:09 the point was he's telling her to be careful because she's expecting, not that it'll be a replacement
Orange Hillbilly: given his childhood..... preeeeetty accurate
When trunks does in the original it's epic when vegeta flips out. U should watch the original series.
Goku’s speech about not coming back but maybe someday was a love-letter to the fans. TFS weren’t sure at the time whether they would do season 4 or not. But, then at the end there was an announcement that they were doing season 4. However, while working on the Bojack movie, they later announced they wrote and rewrote and rewrote the script and just were not happy with it, and they finally came to the conclusion that they were burnt out. So, instead of putting out subpar content and maybe even risking coming to resent Dragon Ball, which they loved, they changed their minds about continuing and made their announcement. The announcement was clipped from the end of the episode. It is sad, but I respect it. At least it led to Dragon Shortz and HFIL which was not bound by previous stories and was all their ideas.
Also, more recently, Totally Not Mark did a deep study and TFS made new DBZA content in the form of Buu Bits for it which they later bundled into a long video on their own channel.
There's is no full season 4 covering the buu saga,HOWEVER they made buu bits witch does cover the arc in there abriged stylr,and is the closest thing they have to a season 4
I hope youll react to that after the epliouge
Also check out the Tfs Kai series
This is peak gohan
To the fanbase’s disdain.
"You peaked."
Tfs did the abridged version of some parts of the Buu Saga
17 came back as well he appeared at the area I think cell absorbed him and later we see him in the buu arc towards the end and in Super he joins the universe 7 team in the universal tournament of power
In the real show, Vegeta throws a hissy fit about how he'll never fight again as he flies off after Cell is defeated. So he doesn't go to the tower.
Yea his arc was completed as this was the original ending for DBZ
@@hustler666100 idk about all that. But it was an ending to an arc.
Any plans for "Dragon shorts" also made by TFS? Also HFIL which is about Cell in Hell? O: TFS also made Buu Saga clips, but I guess if you haven't seen the Buu Saga itself, it would make almost no sense. They were part of a collab with another youtuber TotallyNotMark, who did in depth reviews of all the Dragon ball sagas.
Very well could be misreading it but I think ox king meant for chi-chi to try and calm down so she doesn't lose two in one day. (Intense emotions occasionally can induce labor and/or lead to miscarriage)
What you were talking about is so true, cause.. Gohan kinda hates Goku and him becoming the final villian at some point? Would be amazing, def. better then the Boo Saga.
Are you talking about abridged series or DBZ in general? Gohan loves Goku in original.
@@helloasa9296 Abridged of course..but the other way around is way more interesting.
17 was killed by cell. He got brought back.
Abridged:
SAO
Goblin Slayer
Log Horizon
How to be an Adventurer
What's the poison?
God there are so many Go Lin Slayer Abridges out there.