I always imagined Pebbles' slideshow was him looking up information on how to grant the mark of communication to the slugcat. Like he's just going through indexes, typing in search terms. Really my only reasoning is that the all caps he does right before the messy diagram is 7 characters long, and "slugcat" has 7 letters
Five pebbles: *WHAT TA F IS A SLUGCAT* His HD: bro chill Five pebbles: *HE IS EATING MY PEARLS AND HE LOOKS INTELLIGENT I WNAT HIM TO STOP BUT I DONT WANT TO KILL HIM!*
@@anthonythetophatter2834 not really more like searching his internal memory So if it even takes time to find the things FP must have lots of Petabytes(i think that is the name) of storaged memory, counting that their processing power is able to load thousands copies of their world in a small scale just to test if shit works Question:Why does FP has so much stuff I dont think he... *OH* i just said about the simulations
@@anthonythetophatter2834 but like They must have every single piece of data from their world like even atoms functionally so they have a statistically impossible chance of giving a fake triple affirmative Also *HOLY COW* how destructive is the scientific way to ascend?! if like SS got like 30 seconds before it exploded ascending everthing around and collapsing a *ENTIRE FREAKING INTERATOR CAN* man something like that would have been beyond the power of the Tsar Bomba maybe rival the power of all nuclear energy combined into a bomb
The red boxes as you call them in the pebbles slideshow might be different "marks". Pebbles gives you the mark of communication which allows you to understand the funny language, but who says there cant be more marks that do different stuff. One symbol is lit green cause it might be representing the mark of communication, and its selected to be readied up to be put into sugcat or smth. Just speculation tho ofc, could be pebbles ordering KFC for later and the different symbols being different menu items. You never know
The first pebbles image is instructions to ascend, entering subterranean(implied by the subway map) and having to obtain karma 10 (implied by the karma gate symbol, the two karma gate symbol with >) telling you that only creatures with karma 10 can ascend
i always thought that the ancient cities looked almost 3d printed... ancients loved their halfway robotic organisms and when i look at the city i thought it was something chrysalis or hive-like. i feel like that uneven stacking is maybe a result of an organic building material and some sort of purposed organism that would make them. maybe even it relates to the structures seen in shoreline? obviously im just speculating but that's what my initial thought was. cool video thumbs up
Oh I hate how much I’m liking this theory. I just have this absolutely cursed imagery in my head of those shoreline snake structures boring into rock with those drill snouts like some kind of nightmare robotic bobbit worm. With them then slithering over or even THROUGH an iterator can before defecating a prefab room segment out their back end atop the iterator’s back. Then returning back to their quarry to do it again… slowly layering an entire city that way.
It hadnt occured to me that pearls are the perfect form of data storage for a civilization that uses biological organisms for their tech. Its renewable, mass producable, and portable.
Although the only problem being that they probably have a strict limit on the data they can have in them. Like the pearls you can get read by iterators are just small text files if you think about it so they probably can't accomplish much. Also we probably don't actually know how renewable those are so there's that too lol
The snake-like structures in shoreline are most likely support beams, one of the white pearl texts reads "This is a blueprint for a support beam used for the construction of early industrial areas. You can see these in use not too far from here.", not sure what else Moon could be talking about with "You can see these in use not too far from here"
@@snailshaman7948 i would ask "why would the support beams be positionable, especially since moon was one of the first iterators around" but a bunch of different feasible reasons could be made so i'll see myself out.
@@ecogreen123 I don't exactly remember where but I saw someone suggest they might be support beams for part of moon's facility, which pretty much caved in on itself by the time the slugcats come around
The "serpents" near moon seem more like resource collectors or mining segments to me, they have spiraled prongs which could have been used for drilling, I think these are attached to moons super structure instead of being their own automatons, we all know about how the iterators had to provide for their cities, this could've been how they collected resources for them, they could have displaced and sucked up different materials to be processed in some part of the structure.
my theory was that they were the severed water pumps that cooled lttm. I think this because they come from the water and the 4 "eyes" remind me of turbine pumps.
My theory was that they were some kind of manipulators that Moon had lost control of or something, organizing or collecting products of the farms and subterranean so they can be transported up to the city.
Number 2: I work in highrise construction. To counteract building settlement over time from being initially poured concrete to fully cured concrete, the building will move and sag in certain spots, known as deflection. On a tall building the floor is setout in a direction to counteract this sagging so that it eventually sags into place directly ontop in a straight line. It could be that the ancients, because they were building well above the clouds, which would be 300m above sea level at least + 500m ontop for a structure going up, they just sagged into different spots over time. It is more likely that they were built wrongly at this height and it has become more obvious over the years. Sagging will show as a leaning structure, the way these are in and out is more likely bad construction engineering.
There's plenty of evidence that the Ancients built this entire structure and everything in it with only the vaguest interest in actually residing there long term-the whole complex of Rain World is simply designed to process Void Liquid for power (which is apparently all they needed for power) and to use that power to achieve enlightenment (Since the VL allowed them to reach a formless state but yet did not guarantee complete freedom if you were attached). Indeed, the material world by their own ideology didn't matter, and concentrating on it was considered something you shouldn't do-attachment to the material world and all that. By which is why they left all the management (of food, housing, and industry) to robots. And the Iterators didn't care about making buildings last that would shortly be unoccupied for all eternity, the same way they abandoned the idea of ascending critters and focused only on themselves.
Personally, a few of these remind me of the little floating thing that will follow the artificer in downpour Edit: i saw another comment saying that the red boxes might be marks like the mark of communication, which leads me to speculate that the floaty artificer thingy might also be a mark of some kind.
i really do wonder if the ancient's language is supposed to be understood, i'm thinking about this now with the knowledge about tunic's own languages (there are in fact multiple languages in it, not just the alphabet)
I certainly think it's a logographic (each symbol is a word/concept) language! Here's my reasoning/examples 1. Stolen Enlightenment achievement symbol, a mix of the karma 4 and monk symbols. We've inferred that karma 4 is gluttony based on the murals in Five Pebbles. So Stolen Enlightenment, where you eat one of Moon's neurons, is represented with a symbol group of "gluttonous/greedy monk" 2. The Scholar achievement, two symbols grouped together. One symbol is seen alone in the Wanderer achievement. So the Scholar symbols could be "wanderer/curious knowledge" 3. The Scavenger graffiti in Moon's chamber is multiple symbols. On the left is part of the Chieftain and Friend achievement symbols, it could mean "companion/non-violent". The symbols on the right look almost exactly like the Scholar achievement, so it could be the Scavs marked Moon as "friendly scholar"
@@arando689 so karma symbols would represent concepts and together they form larger concepts that represents actual things or groups of things in the world, that's an interesting language building for sure
I'm so glad someone is finally talking about the cabinet beasts. When I first played and saw these things I was so fucking scare of what they were. I thought that they were like the fetuses of some monolitic creature I'd have to face or somthing.
Let me try to think of some Rain World mysteries to ask about: 1) What do we know about the tree where the Survivor and the Monk lived with their family? 2) What can we learn about the ancients from the rare graffiti marks found around the world? 3) What were they manufacturing in the Industrial Complex, or growing in the Farm Arrays? 4) What is the history behind the Shaded Citadel? Was it a city where the ancients lived before building Pebbles and casting it into permanent shadow? 5) Did the Survivor recognize any of the slugcats he met after ascending, implying that his family ascended without him after being separated? This might be hinted at by the dream where several slugcat ghosts are watching him.
1. We don't know much about the tree, but I feel like it might be more metaphorical than a literal location, symbolizing the slugcats' old home 2. There isn't enough information about who made the graffiti either, although its likely that it was made by some of the last ancients during a pilgrimage to the void sea, however, there is graffiti of the rot present in outskirts, and the lore suggests that the ancients were long gone by the time pebbles created the rot, perhaps some are still out there? 3. Industrial complex was a factory that produced ritualistic bone masks, most likely the ones worn by vultures, and farm arrays was an automated agricultural site that produced nectar (a beverage we know very little about) and possibly other food items 4. The shaded citadel was a religious temple before the five pebbles structure was built above it, despite the wishes of its inhabitants. 5. It's kinda implied that survivor's family ascended before them, because of some of the cutscenes.
@@yakiyuki8924 2. I think it would make more since if scavengers were the ones who made some of the graffiti like the rot one and such. 3. I'm pretty sure the theory that the masks were for the vultures was debunked since in one of the pearls, moon talks about a factory called "Side House" which when described, fits Industrial Complex. In that same pearl, moon mentions how the masks were used to abate the self and that they were "excessively ornate and lavish" and some were probably very big as moon says some masks made it difficult for some persons to pass through narrow doorways. All those descriptions of the masks don't seem to fit the vulture masks so they're most likely the masks worn by the ancients (moon also mentions the masks are all gone with their owners. And when you bring her a vulture mask, she doesn't recognize it) 5. I don't think it would be possible that survivor's/monk's family ascended before them. There are plenty of theories about what exactly happened when the slugcats ascend but what I believe is that before they fully ascend and stop existing, they dream about they're most wanted desire or wishes. Just like how survivor wanted to find their family, monk wanted to find survivor, and hunter is a bit of a mystery but I think they wanted their disease to be cured and to reunite with their creator? That's my theory though.
My favorite part is when rain world says "its raining time" and proceeded to rain everyone Unironically though the rain is one of my favorite things in rain world
really good video. just one thing you missed - on the top of FP, in the last screen before you go inside, you can actually see the bottom of one of the ancients' tower blocks. you can see the floors on exactly the same plane as slugcat can see them. could help with figuring out the size of the ancients, from the looks of that, and how the background buildings are arranged in their wonky fashion, i doubt theyre any bigger than a scavenger
To explain the Ancient City layers, perhaps they appear so structurally "drab" due to the focus of dying permanently that the Ancients had around this time. The billionaires and political figures among them were most certainly focused on endorsing ways to die without becoming those weird echoes as oppose to construction, and thus material budgets would plummet.
The disorderly construction of the buildings on top of the iteratiors may be jagged bacause their construction was rushed, if they went up there to avoid the rain they most likely wanted to get up there as fast as possible
Considering the concept of purposed organisms, imagine if scorn and rain world are just different moments of the same story getting increasingly weird and disturbing
I always assumed the stuff at Shoreline was the wreckage of Moon. The one at 7:05 looks like it forms a ring, kinda reminds me of the destroyed support rings from the Space Elevator in Halo. As for the snaking ones, they may have been warped during the collapse, you also see similar snaking pipe structures during the climb up The Leg.
My guess for the serpents would still be moon supports, but more like giant cables. Since Moon is on the coast, and built earlier, they might have used a different can design.
I think the arms in shoreline are from Moon's structure before it was destroyed by pebbles, they probably supported some outside part of her facility given how large Pebble's is. The articulation would ensure flexibility under wind/rain along with some other benefits that come from having a raised structure.
Hello Daszombes! That was an amazing video! I've learned more things with these curiosities! If I would suggest one more topic, It would be the Graffitis made by the ancients. You can find a gif showing every graffiti in the steam community of RW. There's some of them that's really interesting!
Not going to lie I always thought the shoreline wormie background elements looked like legs. Like spider legs reaching out to try to lift a much larger main body up from where it collapsed and was covered in water. Always freaked myself out thinking about it.
Another thing adding to the "Liggy belongs to NSH" theory is, correct me if I'm wrong, but I'm pretty sure Liggy appears more often in the Hunter's time.
That would furthermore support the theory, that Hunter's sickness is part of NSH essence(?) trying to ascend by using Hunter as it's vessel. He positioned his overseer near the void sea to see if his mission was successful. That, plus neuron sent to the Moon by NSH through hunter is also of green colour.
One Question - didya have "Find all coloured pearls and bring it to Moon" run? I't would be nice to see how it goes... Although you must be weray about "friendly" Scavs which may follow you to the shelter - and then your colored pearls become THEIR colored pearls
My thoughts on the red floors in the ancient cities is that those were the rooms of ascended ancients, pretty much just saying “hey these are unoccupied” Edit: also on an unrelated note, I think that the weird leviathan like things in the backgrounds of shoreline are newer versions of garbage worms, although they were abviously more efficient they are clearly less long-term.
Well the itorators needed massive amounts of water so maybe in number 3 the tube like structure was a way of transferring water to moon and when moon collapsed they collapsed with her. Also, they don’t appear to have been designed to move at all so I don’t really think that they are an older version of the leviathan
At some point while five pebbles it trying to type at you, he uses a different font or script. Idk I just found that interesting. He also repeats something he says to you slower at some point. And he is totally insulting slugcat’s intelligence the whole time.
what if the cabinet beasts and void worms are connected? They look similar, the cabinet beasts store memories and the void worms are only visible when you eat memories via neuron fly, maybe they lead to the void sea because they remember the ancients desire to die
Gerard (???) is also seen in Drought, following Wanderer similar to Iggy as the slugcat adventures. As Wanderer was created/modified by Seven Red Suns, Gerard is most likely Sun’s overseer 👀
I haven't even played rain world, i refunded it after 1,5 hours because it was too slugish and i didn't want to invest as much time to git gud. However i watched a full longplay on youtube. It's a strangely intruiging game, and i love the community & creators such as you. The lore is really cool and the mood is unique. A shame i couldn't get into it but i think this way made me appreciate the game more rather than being frustrated with it.
I recently got into it, the controls are rough to learn but once you do, it is self intuitive and almost natural. The biggest challenge of the game is just not knowing where to go, I played a for a few hours, you will not know where anything is starting out. I still don't know how to find pebbles, funnily enough, I actually went to moon first via shaded citadel.
Would probably be very bare bones. The Ancients were monks who were spurning the material world as much as they could to prepare for Ascension. The mishmash jenga towers are exactly the sort of thing people would build only to keep the rain off their heads with little thought for long term habitation.
Huh heheheh, i never noticed that. I was always so confused going into 5 pebbles room just WAITING to get to understand him. That’s pretty funny he’s TRYING but you literally just don’t get it & he starts throwing all caps at u & insulting your brain size.
Number 3, Downpour Spearmaster spoilers. . . . . . . . . . . . . These snake-things are actually just part of Moon's tower. They are connectors that connected Moon to other Iterators.
I think that the weird "serpents" were possibly used to ark electricity between the two prongs attached to them. perhaps they were used for a long eroded power facility. sounds familiar to waterfront complex?
The "Worms" outside of moon are 100% support beams/remnants of Moon's leg(s). There's a pearl that gets her to talk about it and we can see them after (SAINT SPOILERS) 5P's can collapses in Saint's campaign nearby the remains of Shaded and around the Silent Construct
My biggest rain world mystery is: what the fuck is worm grass and what the fuck is it doing in farm arrays? They seem to have been here since before the self genocide of the ancients, as the Farm Arrays echo comments on the “grasses still swaying in the winds.” The presence of them seems to be intentional, or at least their being there was not something that the ancients cared about. One might think that worm grass is the source of the fabled “nectar” that is brought up in a few pearls, but if it is, then why is it carnivorous? The ancients can just genetically engineer anything, so why didn’t they genetically engineer the grass to not eat them? Was it to allow the plant to get nutrients through meat? If so, then why is one of the most common sources of meat in the game, green lizards, immune to it? The probable answer is that it’s an adaptation on the part of the green lizards, which actually makes sense, since the green lizards seem to have quite a number adaptations, (resistance to red lizard bites, low movement to conserve energy, immunity to centipede shocks, immunity to small rot cysts, etc.) however I have a different theory: green lizards are feral, and all of their adaptations are the result of domestication. Their taming difficulty being the lowest in the game, as well as them being relatively non-aggressive and loyal temperament lead me to believe that they were once the ancient’s pets. Their high aggression towards each other leads me to believe that they were used for something akin to dogfighting, and their aggression and resilience to other lizards might imply that they were used for protection against them. But now I’m going on an unrelated tangent, so back to worm grass: why the fuck do gooieducks repel worm grass? Moon says that they are some kind of spore deposit, but that doesn’t really say anything about why they repel worm grass. Maybe they were used as ways for the ancients to get across the worm grass safely, similarly to how we, and, if this theory is correct, possibly the ancients, use rain deer. There’s just one problem though: the Farm Arrays echo uses a strange adverb to describe the grass’s swaying: “gently”. Since “gently” doesn’t really describe eating everything that is too impatient to wait five eons for a rain deer to come to their side of the grass sea, this means that the worm grass didn’t want to eat the ancients. This makes no fucking sense, because if the worm grass was passive towards the ancients, then why the fuck do Rain Deer, the combination between a domesticated animal and a deer that lives on a fucking farm and serve a very specific purpose of letting you traverse the worm grass, exist. I’m sorry for this long-ass comment, I just needed to get this mystery off my chest.
8:26 my idea of these was that they are creatures that died and are trying to disappear, since some look like lizards or small animals. I don't know why I thought of this, I'm pretty sure now that the creatures can't disappear yet? they just cycle, right?
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the weird shoreline snakes to me have always been either weird architecture for the sake of being weird or were either grabbing claws/ involved in some long-lost process carried out by the ocean. maybe they were involved in maintaining stuff in the ocean or around it but were either decommissioned early on being tied down with those metal strings or were destroyed by the rain and now languish in pieces
I think the green overseers are NSH's and i do think green is a hint at that. Moon had yellow overseers and yellow neuron flies, 5P has blueoverseers, and when his neuron flies are not rainbow, they are blue. Hunter carries a neuron fly from NSH to restore Moon, and its colour is green.
Now we know (amongs other things) the symbol talked near the end was the gate symbol (its now on every pipe leading to gates with downpour,remix edition)
Personally I think the “serpents” are some kind of construction tool. This explains the articulation, as they would need to bend and be able to somewhat move around. The prongs could be used to grab and or cut material, maybe even function as drills?
What if the subway map is literally a map of the void fluid transport systems in subterranean and they appear on five pebbles’s google slideshow as the destination slugcat has to go to to access the depths? Could also be a map of the filtration system with its winding pipes
Funny enough, the Monk playthrough takes place canonically after survivor (the white slugcat). So FP doesn't have to google search Slugcats, he already did.
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My issue with this video is that it focuses on knowledge which can be deducted by referencing the game itself. Assuming that RW's universe has same set of universal physical laws as our own, there are a bunch of interesting observations can be made: Why iterators (even older models, when rain wasn't an issue) are all places high above ground on legs, if water is crucial for their sustainability? Delivering water higher is obviously way less efficient than doing so from ground level. Why lizards have such a weird snake-like eye placement? It grants a major disadvantage during hunting by not allowing them to see their prey when it is directly in front of their jaw. This feature is present in some reptilians, however, larger species have eyes moved further back into the skull and more focused on frontal space. They're also located in one of the sturdiest parts of the body (sturdy enough to make spears ricochet that would otherwise go right through the entire body (because pinning creatures to walls is possible)), which doesn't make sense why such a giant weak point is there. Rain cycle as a whole. For it to rain such regularly, large amount of vapour has to accumulate really quickly during the time between hybernations (which i find unlikely because it is plainly stated in-game that iterators no longer run at full power and even that there are less of them than there are used to be), or there has to be a single supercyclone in the local area of constant rain which is moved by wind and sustained by running iterators, and rain-less period is time when cyclone has passed.
6:55 considering the 'single eye-mouth' bit, I think the giant robo-snakes are the _only_ thing she could be describing. After all, there's nothing else in the game with any kind of eye-mouth, as far as I know.
I personally have the head-canon that void spawn are a plankton equivalent of the void. Going along with this idea I also like to think that the void worms feed on them, like filter feeders, Which could explain their more docile behavior.
My theory: The karma symbol from the release date trailer isnt actually for the Wanderer achievement, but the item needed to get the region as an unlock for the Safari mode.
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What’s what’s the music you used in 1:47?
Damn
@@ka-boom2083 Believe it is 'Black Moonlight' from the OST
So, if people _don't_ give you money, you'd actually sell out to RAID? Jesus Christ, talk about a loose sense of morals.
@@commanderfoxtrot gamer I need to eat food to live
I always imagined Pebbles' slideshow was him looking up information on how to grant the mark of communication to the slugcat. Like he's just going through indexes, typing in search terms. Really my only reasoning is that the all caps he does right before the messy diagram is 7 characters long, and "slugcat" has 7 letters
Five pebbles: *WHAT TA F IS A SLUGCAT*
His HD: bro chill
Five pebbles: *HE IS EATING MY PEARLS AND HE LOOKS INTELLIGENT I WNAT HIM TO STOP BUT I DONT WANT TO KILL HIM!*
so what you're saying is that he's *fucking googling it?*
@@anthonythetophatter2834 not really more like searching his internal memory
So if it even takes time to find the things FP must have lots of Petabytes(i think that is the name) of storaged memory, counting that their processing power is able to load thousands copies of their world in a small scale just to test if shit works
Question:Why does FP has so much stuff I dont think he... *OH* i just said about the simulations
@@B.L.U.S dang, it's still pretty funny
@@anthonythetophatter2834 but like
They must have every single piece of data from their world like even atoms functionally so they have a statistically impossible chance of giving a fake triple affirmative
Also *HOLY COW* how destructive is the scientific way to ascend?! if like SS got like 30 seconds before it exploded ascending everthing around and collapsing a *ENTIRE FREAKING INTERATOR CAN* man something like that would have been beyond the power of the Tsar Bomba maybe rival the power of all nuclear energy combined into a bomb
The red boxes as you call them in the pebbles slideshow might be different "marks". Pebbles gives you the mark of communication which allows you to understand the funny language, but who says there cant be more marks that do different stuff. One symbol is lit green cause it might be representing the mark of communication, and its selected to be readied up to be put into sugcat or smth.
Just speculation tho ofc, could be pebbles ordering KFC for later and the different symbols being different menu items. You never know
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@@B.L.U.S aw :)
Sugcat
I wonder if a scavenger could hold a conversation if you got the mark of communication onto one
@@Stanfordscienceman Surprisingly this is answered by Downpour!
Dumbass still tries to use handsignals.
The first pebbles image is instructions to ascend, entering subterranean(implied by the subway map) and having to obtain karma 10 (implied by the karma gate symbol, the two karma gate symbol with >) telling you that only creatures with karma 10 can ascend
i always thought that the ancient cities looked almost 3d printed... ancients loved their halfway robotic organisms and when i look at the city i thought it was something chrysalis or hive-like. i feel like that uneven stacking is maybe a result of an organic building material and some sort of purposed organism that would make them. maybe even it relates to the structures seen in shoreline? obviously im just speculating but that's what my initial thought was. cool video thumbs up
Oh I hate how much I’m liking this theory. I just have this absolutely cursed imagery in my head of those shoreline snake structures boring into rock with those drill snouts like some kind of nightmare robotic bobbit worm. With them then slithering over or even THROUGH an iterator can before defecating a prefab room segment out their back end atop the iterator’s back. Then returning back to their quarry to do it again… slowly layering an entire city that way.
It hadnt occured to me that pearls are the perfect form of data storage for a civilization that uses biological organisms for their tech. Its renewable, mass producable, and portable.
That right there is a triple affirmative.
Although the only problem being that they probably have a strict limit on the data they can have in them. Like the pearls you can get read by iterators are just small text files if you think about it so they probably can't accomplish much. Also we probably don't actually know how renewable those are so there's that too lol
The snake-like structures in shoreline are most likely support beams, one of the white pearl texts reads "This is a blueprint for a support beam used for the construction of early industrial areas. You can see these in use not too far from here.", not sure what else Moon could be talking about with "You can see these in use not too far from here"
support beams for what?
@@ecogreen123 construction of early industrial areas
Yeah aren't they literally the failed support beams of Moon's complex? Surely Moon's complex was once posititoned ABOVE Shoreline, and collapsed?
@@snailshaman7948 i would ask "why would the support beams be positionable, especially since moon was one of the first iterators around" but a bunch of different feasible reasons could be made so i'll see myself out.
@@ecogreen123 I don't exactly remember where but I saw someone suggest they might be support beams for part of moon's facility, which pretty much caved in on itself by the time the slugcats come around
The "serpents" near moon seem more like resource collectors or mining segments to me, they have spiraled prongs which could have been used for drilling, I think these are attached to moons super structure instead of being their own automatons, we all know about how the iterators had to provide for their cities, this could've been how they collected resources for them, they could have displaced and sucked up different materials to be processed in some part of the structure.
my theory was that they were the severed water pumps that cooled lttm. I think this because they come from the water and the 4 "eyes" remind me of turbine pumps.
I think either they are pylons or supports for moon.
i originally thought this was the case, but i have seen a couple other really good ideas.
My theory was that they were some kind of manipulators that Moon had lost control of or something, organizing or collecting products of the farms and subterranean so they can be transported up to the city.
they might just be bits and pieces of debris from when moon collapsed
Number 2: I work in highrise construction. To counteract building settlement over time from being initially poured concrete to fully cured concrete, the building will move and sag in certain spots, known as deflection. On a tall building the floor is setout in a direction to counteract this sagging so that it eventually sags into place directly ontop in a straight line. It could be that the ancients, because they were building well above the clouds, which would be 300m above sea level at least + 500m ontop for a structure going up, they just sagged into different spots over time. It is more likely that they were built wrongly at this height and it has become more obvious over the years. Sagging will show as a leaning structure, the way these are in and out is more likely bad construction engineering.
There's plenty of evidence that the Ancients built this entire structure and everything in it with only the vaguest interest in actually residing there long term-the whole complex of Rain World is simply designed to process Void Liquid for power (which is apparently all they needed for power) and to use that power to achieve enlightenment (Since the VL allowed them to reach a formless state but yet did not guarantee complete freedom if you were attached). Indeed, the material world by their own ideology didn't matter, and concentrating on it was considered something you shouldn't do-attachment to the material world and all that. By which is why they left all the management (of food, housing, and industry) to robots.
And the Iterators didn't care about making buildings last that would shortly be unoccupied for all eternity, the same way they abandoned the idea of ascending critters and focused only on themselves.
True but in downpour we get to see looks to the moons iterator city and it doesn’t have any of this sagging
@@cloudydays4825Moon obviously had more care put into her. She seems to be more compasionate on purpose
But moons city is described as shoddily built and that’s why pebbles’ city was more popular to live on among the ancients
What if all the symbols in the red boxes represent different creatures, and the lit up green one represents a slugcat? Idk just a thought
Personally, a few of these remind me of the little floating thing that will follow the artificer in downpour
Edit: i saw another comment saying that the red boxes might be marks like the mark of communication, which leads me to speculate that the floaty artificer thingy might also be a mark of some kind.
@@vanillawaffle7303 if the red boxes are marks of communication, then he *was* looking up how to give them to slugcats!
@@vanillawaffle7303 The mark of FISSION!
i really do wonder if the ancient's language is supposed to be understood, i'm thinking about this now with the knowledge about tunic's own languages (there are in fact multiple languages in it, not just the alphabet)
I certainly think it's a logographic (each symbol is a word/concept) language! Here's my reasoning/examples
1. Stolen Enlightenment achievement symbol, a mix of the karma 4 and monk symbols. We've inferred that karma 4 is gluttony based on the murals in Five Pebbles. So Stolen Enlightenment, where you eat one of Moon's neurons, is represented with a symbol group of "gluttonous/greedy monk"
2. The Scholar achievement, two symbols grouped together. One symbol is seen alone in the Wanderer achievement. So the Scholar symbols could be "wanderer/curious knowledge"
3. The Scavenger graffiti in Moon's chamber is multiple symbols. On the left is part of the Chieftain and Friend achievement symbols, it could mean "companion/non-violent". The symbols on the right look almost exactly like the Scholar achievement, so it could be the Scavs marked Moon as "friendly scholar"
That's interesting, and I agree, though it does imply that scavengers and intelligent enough to learn language.
@@arando689 so karma symbols would represent concepts and together they form larger concepts that represents actual things or groups of things in the world, that's an interesting language building for sure
Some people have asked the devs about this and they sort of implied that in general, the symbols have meaning
I'm so glad someone is finally talking about the cabinet beasts. When I first played and saw these things I was so fucking scare of what they were. I thought that they were like the fetuses of some monolitic creature I'd have to face or somthing.
Let me try to think of some Rain World mysteries to ask about:
1) What do we know about the tree where the Survivor and the Monk lived with their family?
2) What can we learn about the ancients from the rare graffiti marks found around the world?
3) What were they manufacturing in the Industrial Complex, or growing in the Farm Arrays?
4) What is the history behind the Shaded Citadel? Was it a city where the ancients lived before building Pebbles and casting it into permanent shadow?
5) Did the Survivor recognize any of the slugcats he met after ascending, implying that his family ascended without him after being separated? This might be hinted at by the dream where several slugcat ghosts are watching him.
The pearls reveal that the farm arrays produce nectar, which seems to be an alcoholic drink or something similar.
@@SunShine214_2and they also reveal that industrial used to make masks
1. We don't know much about the tree, but I feel like it might be more metaphorical than a literal location, symbolizing the slugcats' old home
2. There isn't enough information about who made the graffiti either, although its likely that it was made by some of the last ancients during a pilgrimage to the void sea, however, there is graffiti of the rot present in outskirts, and the lore suggests that the ancients were long gone by the time pebbles created the rot, perhaps some are still out there?
3. Industrial complex was a factory that produced ritualistic bone masks, most likely the ones worn by vultures, and farm arrays was an automated agricultural site that produced nectar (a beverage we know very little about) and possibly other food items
4. The shaded citadel was a religious temple before the five pebbles structure was built above it, despite the wishes of its inhabitants.
5. It's kinda implied that survivor's family ascended before them, because of some of the cutscenes.
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2. I think it would make more since if scavengers were the ones who made some of the graffiti like the rot one and such.
3. I'm pretty sure the theory that the masks were for the vultures was debunked since in one of the pearls, moon talks about a factory called "Side House" which when described, fits Industrial Complex. In that same pearl, moon mentions how the masks were used to abate the self and that they were "excessively ornate and lavish" and some were probably very big as moon says some masks made it difficult for some persons to pass through narrow doorways. All those descriptions of the masks don't seem to fit the vulture masks so they're most likely the masks worn by the ancients (moon also mentions the masks are all gone with their owners. And when you bring her a vulture mask, she doesn't recognize it)
5. I don't think it would be possible that survivor's/monk's family ascended before them. There are plenty of theories about what exactly happened when the slugcats ascend but what I believe is that before they fully ascend and stop existing, they dream about they're most wanted desire or wishes. Just like how survivor wanted to find their family, monk wanted to find survivor, and hunter is a bit of a mystery but I think they wanted their disease to be cured and to reunite with their creator? That's my theory though.
One of the white pearls has a complaint from the inhabitants of shaded citadel. The general gist is
"Yo don't build five pebbles over our church"
My favorite part is when rain world says "its raining time" and proceeded to rain everyone
Unironically though the rain is one of my favorite things in rain world
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I’ve been wondering about those orange void eggs, spent forever trying to look up what they were called thank you so much for clarifying
really good video. just one thing you missed - on the top of FP, in the last screen before you go inside, you can actually see the bottom of one of the ancients' tower blocks. you can see the floors on exactly the same plane as slugcat can see them. could help with figuring out the size of the ancients, from the looks of that, and how the background buildings are arranged in their wonky fashion, i doubt theyre any bigger than a scavenger
To explain the Ancient City layers, perhaps they appear so structurally "drab" due to the focus of dying permanently that the Ancients had around this time. The billionaires and political figures among them were most certainly focused on endorsing ways to die without becoming those weird echoes as oppose to construction, and thus material budgets would plummet.
The disorderly construction of the buildings on top of the iteratiors may be jagged bacause their construction was rushed, if they went up there to avoid the rain they most likely wanted to get up there as fast as possible
It took generations to build the Iterators, and the puppet didnt come online until everyone was settled I believe
So it may just be aesthetic
Considering the concept of purposed organisms, imagine if scorn and rain world are just different moments of the same story getting increasingly weird and disturbing
What if the giant mech worms in shoreline are five pebbles way of sucking up moons water
Seems like something he'd do...
I always assumed the stuff at Shoreline was the wreckage of Moon.
The one at 7:05 looks like it forms a ring, kinda reminds me of the destroyed support rings from the Space Elevator in Halo.
As for the snaking ones, they may have been warped during the collapse, you also see similar snaking pipe structures during the climb up The Leg.
I had no idea that those cages had flesh tubes in them! And i love that pearl theory considering pearls normally having a biological origin.
My guess for the serpents would still be moon supports, but more like giant cables. Since Moon is on the coast, and built earlier, they might have used a different can design.
Pebbles was 100% yelling slurs at you, can confirm.
That's in character.
I think the arms in shoreline are from Moon's structure before it was destroyed by pebbles, they probably supported some outside part of her facility given how large Pebble's is. The articulation would ensure flexibility under wind/rain along with some other benefits that come from having a raised structure.
Hello Daszombes! That was an amazing video! I've learned more things with these curiosities!
If I would suggest one more topic, It would be the Graffitis made by the ancients. You can find a gif showing every graffiti in the steam community of RW. There's some of them that's really interesting!
Not going to lie I always thought the shoreline wormie background elements looked like legs. Like spider legs reaching out to try to lift a much larger main body up from where it collapsed and was covered in water. Always freaked myself out thinking about it.
i always presumed they were old mining equipment incapacitated by water
This is the coolest video ever it explains all my questions
Another thing adding to the "Liggy belongs to NSH" theory is, correct me if I'm wrong, but I'm pretty sure Liggy appears more often in the Hunter's time.
That would furthermore support the theory, that Hunter's sickness is part of NSH essence(?) trying to ascend by using Hunter as it's vessel. He positioned his overseer near the void sea to see if his mission was successful.
That, plus neuron sent to the Moon by NSH through hunter is also of green colour.
Next video idea: Look at all the graffiti. Some are clearly from the old ones but others are helpfull markings of fellow "wildlife".
Well, knowing that Moon is a fallen iterator in the sea, one can assume that the "serpents" for number 3 could be parts for Moon's can before it fell.
One Question - didya have "Find all coloured pearls and bring it to Moon" run? I't would be nice to see how it goes... Although you must be weray about "friendly" Scavs which may follow you to the shelter - and then your colored pearls become THEIR colored pearls
My thoughts on the red floors in the ancient cities is that those were the rooms of ascended ancients, pretty much just saying “hey these are unoccupied”
Edit: also on an unrelated note, I think that the weird leviathan like things in the backgrounds of shoreline are newer versions of garbage worms, although they were abviously more efficient they are clearly less long-term.
Ngl, you kinda remind me of mossbag, but for rain world. I mean that in a good way btw
3:01 thats why this is the memory crypts?
Well the itorators needed massive amounts of water so maybe in number 3 the tube like structure was a way of transferring water to moon and when moon collapsed they collapsed with her. Also, they don’t appear to have been designed to move at all so I don’t really think that they are an older version of the leviathan
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They didn't lie, that world can rain
yes, you did it, you finally said iterator right! good job das
id love to hear an update on number 2 now that we actually know what that city looks like from the inside
At some point while five pebbles it trying to type at you, he uses a different font or script. Idk I just found that interesting. He also repeats something he says to you slower at some point. And he is totally insulting slugcat’s intelligence the whole time.
Okay the real question tho:
Do the slugcats purr?
At the top of the wall, you can see the moon ( not the iterator) that is identical to the moon on earth
Why wasn't there the Albino leviathan
what if the cabinet beasts and void worms are connected? They look similar, the cabinet beasts store memories and the void worms are only visible when you eat memories via neuron fly, maybe they lead to the void sea because they remember the ancients desire to die
Regarding architecture - this is how Russian panel housing is looking like.
I say any Rain World content from you is gold, favorite RW related youtuber, you rock!
Daszom Little Inferno dlc. The pink logs are real!
Those weird constructs in shoreline reminds me of the destroyer from terraria
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Gerard (???) is also seen in Drought, following Wanderer similar to Iggy as the slugcat adventures. As Wanderer was created/modified by Seven Red Suns, Gerard is most likely Sun’s overseer 👀
I haven't even played rain world, i refunded it after 1,5 hours because it was too slugish and i didn't want to invest as much time to git gud. However i watched a full longplay on youtube. It's a strangely intruiging game, and i love the community & creators such as you. The lore is really cool and the mood is unique. A shame i couldn't get into it but i think this way made me appreciate the game more rather than being frustrated with it.
I recently got into it, the controls are rough to learn but once you do, it is self intuitive and almost natural.
The biggest challenge of the game is just not knowing where to go, I played a for a few hours, you will not know where anything is starting out. I still don't know how to find pebbles, funnily enough, I actually went to moon first via shaded citadel.
@@halinaqi2194 shaded citadel seems like the part where i would've given up lmao
I always wanted to see that city close-up, the last days of ancients, to see their apartments, rooms, the look from upper floors, streets, etc.
Would probably be very bare bones. The Ancients were monks who were spurning the material world as much as they could to prepare for Ascension. The mishmash jenga towers are exactly the sort of thing people would build only to keep the rain off their heads with little thought for long term habitation.
I think the ancient city looks the way it does is because they were all horribly depressed and sort of half given up on building anything.
Thought this was gonna be about bladee
Huh heheheh, i never noticed that. I was always so confused going into 5 pebbles room just WAITING to get to understand him. That’s pretty funny he’s TRYING but you literally just don’t get it & he starts throwing all caps at u & insulting your brain size.
The void spawn appearing after the neuron fly consumption can probably be a reference to insight in Bloodborne/HP Lovecraft's work
You know what else is a rain world curiosity?
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These snake-things are actually just part of Moon's tower. They are connectors that connected Moon to other Iterators.
I think that the weird "serpents" were possibly used to ark electricity between the two prongs attached to them. perhaps they were used for a long eroded power facility. sounds familiar to waterfront complex?
The "Worms" outside of moon are 100% support beams/remnants of Moon's leg(s). There's a pearl that gets her to talk about it and we can see them after (SAINT SPOILERS) 5P's can collapses in Saint's campaign nearby the remains of Shaded and around the Silent Construct
My biggest rain world mystery is: what the fuck is worm grass and what the fuck is it doing in farm arrays? They seem to have been here since before the self genocide of the ancients, as the Farm Arrays echo comments on the “grasses still swaying in the winds.” The presence of them seems to be intentional, or at least their being there was not something that the ancients cared about. One might think that worm grass is the source of the fabled “nectar” that is brought up in a few pearls, but if it is, then why is it carnivorous? The ancients can just genetically engineer anything, so why didn’t they genetically engineer the grass to not eat them? Was it to allow the plant to get nutrients through meat? If so, then why is one of the most common sources of meat in the game, green lizards, immune to it? The probable answer is that it’s an adaptation on the part of the green lizards, which actually makes sense, since the green lizards seem to have quite a number adaptations, (resistance to red lizard bites, low movement to conserve energy, immunity to centipede shocks, immunity to small rot cysts, etc.) however I have a different theory: green lizards are feral, and all of their adaptations are the result of domestication. Their taming difficulty being the lowest in the game, as well as them being relatively non-aggressive and loyal temperament lead me to believe that they were once the ancient’s pets. Their high aggression towards each other leads me to believe that they were used for something akin to dogfighting, and their aggression and resilience to other lizards might imply that they were used for protection against them. But now I’m going on an unrelated tangent, so back to worm grass: why the fuck do gooieducks repel worm grass? Moon says that they are some kind of spore deposit, but that doesn’t really say anything about why they repel worm grass. Maybe they were used as ways for the ancients to get across the worm grass safely, similarly to how we, and, if this theory is correct, possibly the ancients, use rain deer. There’s just one problem though: the Farm Arrays echo uses a strange adverb to describe the grass’s swaying: “gently”. Since “gently” doesn’t really describe eating everything that is too impatient to wait five eons for a rain deer to come to their side of the grass sea, this means that the worm grass didn’t want to eat the ancients. This makes no fucking sense, because if the worm grass was passive towards the ancients, then why the fuck do Rain Deer, the combination between a domesticated animal and a deer that lives on a fucking farm and serve a very specific purpose of letting you traverse the worm grass, exist. I’m sorry for this long-ass comment, I just needed to get this mystery off my chest.
8:26 my idea of these was that they are creatures that died and are trying to disappear, since some look like lizards or small animals. I don't know why I thought of this, I'm pretty sure now that the creatures can't disappear yet? they just cycle, right?
The top left icon pebbles Seoul subway thing does not contain the karma 2 because pebbles is an iterator and iterators can’t do karma 2
Would you do a new lore, flora, and fauna video when downpour comes out? Dear mossbag of the world of rain. I really like your content, and wish you well :D
Don't worry about sponsors, if it allows you to be in abetter position its fine by me
Maybe you could do a poll asking if your community minds sponsors ?
12:30 the symbols in the red square grid... those kind of remind me of the lightbulb thingmabob artificer has in place of an overseer?
the weird shoreline snakes to me have always been either weird architecture for the sake of being weird or were either grabbing claws/ involved in some long-lost process carried out by the ocean. maybe they were involved in maintaining stuff in the ocean or around it but were either decommissioned early on being tied down with those metal strings or were destroyed by the rain and now languish in pieces
I think the green overseers are NSH's and i do think green is a hint at that. Moon had yellow overseers and yellow neuron flies, 5P has blueoverseers, and when his neuron flies are not rainbow, they are blue. Hunter carries a neuron fly from NSH to restore Moon, and its colour is green.
Void spawn could be a remnant of those who ascend kind of like echoes but you know, much less. Maybe that is what infant void worms are as well
You should make more of these also there’s the vulture mask drawing on the wall in ski island
Gerard is my canon now. Thank you.
Now we know (amongs other things) the symbol talked near the end was the gate symbol (its now on every pipe leading to gates with downpour,remix edition)
Personally I think the “serpents” are some kind of construction tool.
This explains the articulation, as they would need to bend and be able to somewhat move around.
The prongs could be used to grab and or cut material, maybe even function as drills?
5:44 I always thought these were long dead leviathans.
The serpents near moon might be a way to give the livithen its head witch would imply that there might be livithens without the head
My brother has a theory that the Sepent-like things on shoreline are old transit towers for a tram system
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What if the subway map is literally a map of the void fluid transport systems in subterranean and they appear on five pebbles’s google slideshow as the destination slugcat has to go to to access the depths? Could also be a map of the filtration system with its winding pipes
the last symbol in pebbles' last projection seems to highly resemble the third karma symbol but with a line down the middle
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Hmm 40 $ is that worth Some trolling 🤔
WOOOO ANOTHER DAS VIDEO! :D
What the heck was that slideshow thing, when I met five pebbles he didn’t do any of it :( (maybe because I played monk difficulty?)
Funny enough, the Monk playthrough takes place canonically after survivor (the white slugcat).
So FP doesn't have to google search Slugcats, he already did.
No number 3 are destroyers from Terrairia
4:13 those are bar codes on the left there scan em
Wy do you use the owofied texts still?
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Time to get that slugcatussy
please someone make him do a in depth video about his profile picture
great vid btw:D
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My issue with this video is that it focuses on knowledge which can be deducted by referencing the game itself. Assuming that RW's universe has same set of universal physical laws as our own, there are a bunch of interesting observations can be made:
Why iterators (even older models, when rain wasn't an issue) are all places high above ground on legs, if water is crucial for their sustainability? Delivering water higher is obviously way less efficient than doing so from ground level.
Why lizards have such a weird snake-like eye placement? It grants a major disadvantage during hunting by not allowing them to see their prey when it is directly in front of their jaw. This feature is present in some reptilians, however, larger species have eyes moved further back into the skull and more focused on frontal space. They're also located in one of the sturdiest parts of the body (sturdy enough to make spears ricochet that would otherwise go right through the entire body (because pinning creatures to walls is possible)), which doesn't make sense why such a giant weak point is there.
Rain cycle as a whole. For it to rain such regularly, large amount of vapour has to accumulate really quickly during the time between hybernations (which i find unlikely because it is plainly stated in-game that iterators no longer run at full power and even that there are less of them than there are used to be), or there has to be a single supercyclone in the local area of constant rain which is moved by wind and sustained by running iterators, and rain-less period is time when cyclone has passed.
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6:55 considering the 'single eye-mouth' bit, I think the giant robo-snakes are the _only_ thing she could be describing. After all, there's nothing else in the game with any kind of eye-mouth, as far as I know.
WORM GRASS
oh my god its worm grass
the small ones were light trash for personal use and the big ones are heavy trash and industrial use!!! thats why they eat everything!!
I personally have the head-canon that void spawn are a plankton equivalent of the void. Going along with this idea I also like to think that the void worms feed on them, like filter feeders, Which could explain their more docile behavior.
I had never actually noticed the cabinet beasts until you brought it up in this video. I guess I’ll be looking for them on my next playthrough.
My theory:
The karma symbol from the release date trailer isnt actually for the Wanderer achievement, but the item needed to get the region as an unlock for the Safari mode.