😂 time to call in the royal lawyers to argue over which form qualifies for the promised annual wage perhaps, the one first presented when (by the implication of being there) she accepted the terms of employment or her second presented form 😁 though I might be a touch hesitant to push the argument to forcefully if she insisted on the second 😉
Dragon was smart. King couldn't afford her weight in gold. But an Heir, a Treasury and an Army to defend her treasure and herself? That'll do, King... That'll do.
@@maxpowers9129 not a whole lot different from some of the thrones of the elven lands .. a Gray Elf can live for 2,000 years in the rules as written when the the Forgotten Realms first came out, no idea if they've nerfed that since.
@@maxpowers9129 People really obsess on that. Churn of control is not really necessary unless there's some form of truly massive tech upheaval the old heads don't quite get.
I'm so glad that the story had a happy ending... I was worried that one of the wizards would take advantage of him or that he would lose sight of why he wanted to be young in the first place. Such a clever story.
Viscount Dorn Tallstag teleported dog poo to Mister Vangerdahast's residence near the zenith of the Goblin War at the behest of his paladin ally whom accepted this compromise in lieu of killing the most disagreeable high wizard.
Great story! I think that perhaps even if the king could have been made young again through magic, he would still think and act in a more mature way and, of course, still love tea! These traits would have put off those princesses who desire adventure and excitement like the one at the start. So, really becoming young wouldn't have solved his problems. Instead, finding a partner who shares his interests and values did! That his new Queen can gobble up assassins is just the icing on the cake!
One of my players in my current campaign is a wizard that accidentally lowered her level down to 4 from 17 with a failed spell to reverse her age so this story of the old king was great. :)
I'd like to see a vid of Ivan interviewing Ed (again?) and asking about how he's felt about the channel and how fast its risen as well as some of Ed's plans for FR that went in different directions at WotC or ideas for adventures, campaigns and books that he was looking forward to doing.
The idea that the king was desperate enough to be the direct target of a bunch of different spells from random wizards is terrifying (he could have at least required them to cast the spells on a different elderly target instead). It's funny that one of them was bold enough to use illusions, and ironic that the endeavor (partially) backfired (since the dragon probably ate the princess he wanted to marry to). This should be a problem you can solve with conjuration (Wish) or necromancy (Clone), but I also wonder about transmutation (True Polymorph), and chronurgy.
I understand the Hoover reference. Larry Correia did a very good alternate history version of him in his Grimnoir series (imagine an alternate timeline nineteen thirties where people have various forms of magic, Bronson Pinchot is the narrator for the audio books).
A tale of a tea-loving king. Very amusing. Speaking of tea, however, another "as a DM" question: Do you remember the late Mr. Gygax ever elaborating on any idiosyncrasies of tea culture on Oerth - which Elminster, and probably also Alustriel and Laeral, would know about? I'm asking for the purposes of a shake-up to my "PCs meet the Wizards Three" scenario: Ariel, my bard, is one of three out of five PCs with musical talent (the others are Titania, the moon elf sorceress, who plays a flute, and Trynnicus, the dragonborn cleric of Bahamut, who plays a lyre), and she will, no doubt, want to lead a musical performance for Alustriel and all who are present. At some point during the performance, a well-kitted-out Cult of the Dragon spy with Subtle Spell metamagic will assail Ariel with a *Phantasmal Killer* spell that makes her freak out onstage, and flee in humiliation once the spell ends and she sees the horrified looks on her audience's faces. (But rest assured, it won't actually be fatal; it'll only take Ariel down to just under half of her HP before Alustriel breaks the assailant's concentration with a *Hold Person* spell and Dalamar binds the illusionist's wrists in a set of shackles.) Remember how I mentioned that both Ariel and her wizard companion, Tristram, have had prior dealings with Tasha? Well, a piece of evidence will have come to light by then - and now, much to Mordenkainen's displeasure, a magically-induced bout of emotional distress has taken Ariel's voice, as it were, so he can't interrogate her at least until she has calmed down. (Well, he could, but since your portrayal of Mordenkainen indicates he's a stickler for etiquette as it applies to spellcasters, he probably doesn't want to offend Alustriel by further upsetting another guest under her roof.) He'll need to do a bit of making nice in order to gain Ariel's trust, and in this case, part of his strategy is to demand a large pot of tea from the kitchens on the distressed bard's behalf - since singers who are protective of their voices tend to respond better to offerings of tea than wine when upset. How best should the maid or errand-boy who fulfills the order interpret it, I wonder?
This is the best episode of The Bachelor EVER! XD. Was it an actual Sand Dragon? Because I find it hard to believe a Copper or Brass Dragon would eat a princess unless she reeeeeeeeeally insulated them to piss them off to make them eat her. I am happy for the king though. Normally, when the players come across one of my benevolent dragons, they befriended it. Only two things come from it. Life link: Where both dragon and partner share a life bond where both share the same life combining both their natural life cycles so a moral can live as long as a dragon plus their own. A sudo immortality. To have offspring with each other would have to be divinely granted by the dragon god and a member of a moral pantheon life deity. To keep interbreeding to a minimum. lol, so interspecies reviewers can't go too crazy with their work. :D
Hello again Ed, I come back to ask you once more about the Pirate Isles and if you have anything more in your pocket about them as I look forward to see what you have got. I was very happy with the book about Mulhorand.
I like the words they are easy to pronounce...phonetic? Anyway..another great tale Ed. My question is about the heirs..the dragoness and the king mated? Had children? More info about this line of dragonmen?
@@GrahamRocks i was not aware dragons COULD shapeshift. To my knowledge they can polymorph but that doesnt change their reproductive compatibility... Well not in faerun anyway..dragonlance i know its canon since well...fizban..but to my recollection dragons in the forgotten realms use magic to change shape not natural ability.
Did some refresher reading and found age has altered some memories..lol what i said about polymorph and shapeshift, reverse it and send it...which is to say, polymorph allows the recipient to fully transform to the altered form and be capable of reproduction, shapeshift is extraneous and cannot.
@@Keef_DGAF Only gold and silver (which appeared to be 'loosely' inspired by oriental mythological dragons rather than western style mythological dragons) could shapeshift in the original AD&D and that iirc did appear to be a natural ability, though seemingly constrained by the spell of the same names description apart from as otherwise noted? .. though nothing in any of the pre-forgotten-realms material I can recall ever seemed to suggest reproductive ability came with the shape shift, though nothing said it didn't either of course, which probably just means no one on that early development team ever thought about it as a possibility that needed any mention one way or the other. Of course there was also always the possibility of any rare spell using dragon (of any type able to have high enough spells, so Bronze and Red dragons) to have the spell and use that in place of the Gold and Silvers natural ability. If (as I always assumed) they're natural ability was supposed to be the Polymorph Self spell then I wouldn't think reproductive compatibility came with the form, Polymorph Other I would expect that it would, the two spells have different descriptions and tertiary elements that suggest that to me, though nothing is said explicitly either way on the subject of reproduction in either spell description. .. Howsoever, that's all from 1st edition AD&D, and memory with only a casual glance here and there at the books for reference, I've no idea what's in 3rd edition and upwards and only casual awareness of 2nd edition outside of the contents of the PH and DMG .. and I'm ignoring any of the novels.
@@pelinoregeryon6593 very nice reply, not so sure about the silver/gold thing though... Platinum/gold i know canon about bahamut and its 7 golden songbirds...
😂 Good story. I think the trick is to reincarnate or instants duration transform yourself into an elf, or (more difficult and expensive) celestial type of your choice. Still need a reliable mage, but easier than a wish spell as others suggested.
This tale made me consider something novel: although lichdom is achieved by spellcasters leveraging their capabilities to succeed in the necessary ritual, as far as I can tell the process never required the magic user performing the act to be the only acceptable target. I hereby introduce the concept of a quasi-lich. A quasi-lich is technically a lich in form and in undead state, and has their soul bound to a phylactery, but they themselves have no proficiency or training in the Art. This is one way to have an immortal ruler that always returns, no matter the number and skill of assassins set against them. Said undead monarch would then swiftly deal with the conspirators, exposed by their attempt at overthrowing their sovereign. These quasi-liches may still go through the motions of supping at feasts and sipping fine wines, but such delicacies stir not their senses nor fortify their frail-appearing and emaciated forms. Their phylacteries still must feast from time to time upon the souls of the common folk, a "necessary sacrifice" for continued stability of the realm at the hands of wise and patient (albeit twisted) rulers. Monarchs are the most likely to become quasi-liches, as they have the resources (in both funds and magic-weilding subjects), are in a stable enough positions in life to orchestrate the process, and have thr vested interest and ambition to overcome any fear of failure (or success). Yet, others may go through the process if they have the means; grandmasters of the martial arts, great heroes such as dragonslayers and legendary generals, one of a triumvirate of kingpins that run a region-spanning theives guild, etc.. Just a thought.
It's a fun story though poor princess. I mean she was rude but as a women I can empathize with wanting to shut down much older suitors as clearly as possible because hints sadly don't always work.
lets see the king demands to my she wizard" Make me young again" Ishtiana( my she wizard) ok and cast magicks king regains youth and goes to open his mouth Ishtiana laughs, oh you should ahve been more specific, you said to make you young again, you didnt say young what. young king looks at Ishtiana with evil itent Istiana smirks I did as you comanded and made you young again, made you a deaf mute 16 year old princess and do learn to live with yourself and do remember the specifics matter as she turns leaving in a puff of smoke. the young princess looks upon herself and unable to say anything turning to her staff...... DM careful what you ask for... hahaha
I was afraid the king would end up paying 3 times a dragon's weight in gold yearly. Good save!
I was thinking the exact same thing!
😂 time to call in the royal lawyers to argue over which form qualifies for the promised annual wage perhaps, the one first presented when (by the implication of being there) she accepted the terms of employment or her second presented form 😁 though I might be a touch hesitant to push the argument to forcefully if she insisted on the second 😉
Dragon was smart. King couldn't afford her weight in gold. But an Heir, a Treasury and an Army to defend her treasure and herself? That'll do, King... That'll do.
@@allenkeith7160 She got all the gold in the Kingdom. And Tea. Clever Dragon.
When mages call someone a "witch" you know her magic is real.
A near-immortal queen regent would be a stablizing force.
Yes but it would also prevent progress in the long term.
@@maxpowers9129 not a whole lot different from some of the thrones of the elven lands .. a Gray Elf can live for 2,000 years in the rules as written when the the Forgotten Realms first came out, no idea if they've nerfed that since.
@@maxpowers9129 People really obsess on that. Churn of control is not really necessary unless there's some form of truly massive tech upheaval the old heads don't quite get.
I'm so glad that the story had a happy ending... I was worried that one of the wizards would take advantage of him or that he would lose sight of why he wanted to be young in the first place. Such a clever story.
Viscount Dorn Tallstag teleported dog poo to Mister Vangerdahast's residence near the zenith of the Goblin War at the behest of his paladin ally whom accepted this compromise in lieu of killing the most disagreeable high wizard.
Great story! I think that perhaps even if the king could have been made young again through magic, he would still think and act in a more mature way and, of course, still love tea! These traits would have put off those princesses who desire adventure and excitement like the one at the start. So, really becoming young wouldn't have solved his problems. Instead, finding a partner who shares his interests and values did! That his new Queen can gobble up assassins is just the icing on the cake!
One of my players in my current campaign is a wizard that accidentally lowered her level down to 4 from 17 with a failed spell to reverse her age so this story of the old king was great. :)
How can you not love Ed?
I'd like to see a vid of Ivan interviewing Ed (again?) and asking about how he's felt about the channel and how fast its risen as well as some of Ed's plans for FR that went in different directions at WotC or ideas for adventures, campaigns and books that he was looking forward to doing.
I love a good bedtime story! Thank you so much.
Alright that ending was sweet.
Very fun story.
I enjoy all of Ed Greenwood videos yeah original short story
15:16
"...and why is Herbert Hoover on your telephone?"
"He is on everyone else's, why can't he be on mine?"
Love the princess accent. Old huh? 😮 Kids those days. 😊
a Truly enchanting tale, thank you for sharing it.
I love hearing dnd stories! You should do some more of them!
The story was adorable
Bravo bravo wonderful job. I can’t get enough
Thank you for the tale!
That was a fun listen! Would be cool to hear more Faerunian fables and mythology.
The idea that the king was desperate enough to be the direct target of a bunch of different spells from random wizards is terrifying (he could have at least required them to cast the spells on a different elderly target instead). It's funny that one of them was bold enough to use illusions, and ironic that the endeavor (partially) backfired (since the dragon probably ate the princess he wanted to marry to). This should be a problem you can solve with conjuration (Wish) or necromancy (Clone), but I also wonder about transmutation (True Polymorph), and chronurgy.
Mr. Greenwood, I was fully expecting to hear Volo making a cameo in this tale.
None of those wizards nor the dragon had a wish spell? :-P
I figure most the good wizards stayed home.
Where exactly was 'The Dragon Realm' though? I don't know of any reference to it before today
Cormyr perhaps? Though that is referred to as the Land of the Purple Dragon, and this dragon was not purple.
I'm also wondering which country this is meant to be.
Great Story!
i have a "Dragon Queen" myself but she likes more the ice coffee than tea!
I absolutely love this story! Well done good sir!!!
Thank you ! I'll do more Edtime Stories when I can!
Aaah, happy memories and warm tea. What more can anyone want? Oh wait, I don't like tea and don't have any happy memories. Damn.
Thanks
I understand the Hoover reference.
Larry Correia did a very good alternate history version of him in his Grimnoir series (imagine an alternate timeline nineteen thirties where people have various forms of magic, Bronson Pinchot is the narrator for the audio books).
I might include this in my own setting. Perhaps a coastal city ruled by a bronze half-dragon.
14:16 - Gods help you if those steaks were served anywhere above medium-rare.
Love love love love it. ❤
Wonderful. Can we PLEASE get an Edtime Stories seminar at Gary Con??
A tale of a tea-loving king. Very amusing.
Speaking of tea, however, another "as a DM" question: Do you remember the late Mr. Gygax ever elaborating on any idiosyncrasies of tea culture on Oerth - which Elminster, and probably also Alustriel and Laeral, would know about?
I'm asking for the purposes of a shake-up to my "PCs meet the Wizards Three" scenario: Ariel, my bard, is one of three out of five PCs with musical talent (the others are Titania, the moon elf sorceress, who plays a flute, and Trynnicus, the dragonborn cleric of Bahamut, who plays a lyre), and she will, no doubt, want to lead a musical performance for Alustriel and all who are present. At some point during the performance, a well-kitted-out Cult of the Dragon spy with Subtle Spell metamagic will assail Ariel with a *Phantasmal Killer* spell that makes her freak out onstage, and flee in humiliation once the spell ends and she sees the horrified looks on her audience's faces. (But rest assured, it won't actually be fatal; it'll only take Ariel down to just under half of her HP before Alustriel breaks the assailant's concentration with a *Hold Person* spell and Dalamar binds the illusionist's wrists in a set of shackles.)
Remember how I mentioned that both Ariel and her wizard companion, Tristram, have had prior dealings with Tasha? Well, a piece of evidence will have come to light by then - and now, much to Mordenkainen's displeasure, a magically-induced bout of emotional distress has taken Ariel's voice, as it were, so he can't interrogate her at least until she has calmed down. (Well, he could, but since your portrayal of Mordenkainen indicates he's a stickler for etiquette as it applies to spellcasters, he probably doesn't want to offend Alustriel by further upsetting another guest under her roof.) He'll need to do a bit of making nice in order to gain Ariel's trust, and in this case, part of his strategy is to demand a large pot of tea from the kitchens on the distressed bard's behalf - since singers who are protective of their voices tend to respond better to offerings of tea than wine when upset. How best should the maid or errand-boy who fulfills the order interpret it, I wonder?
That was a GREAT story told by a great story teller!
This is the best episode of The Bachelor EVER! XD. Was it an actual Sand Dragon? Because I find it hard to believe a Copper or Brass Dragon would eat a princess unless she reeeeeeeeeally insulated them to piss them off to make them eat her. I am happy for the king though. Normally, when the players come across one of my benevolent dragons, they befriended it. Only two things come from it. Life link: Where both dragon and partner share a life bond where both share the same life combining both their natural life cycles so a moral can live as long as a dragon plus their own. A sudo immortality. To have offspring with each other would have to be divinely granted by the dragon god and a member of a moral pantheon life deity. To keep interbreeding to a minimum. lol, so interspecies reviewers can't go too crazy with their work. :D
Are there any Khelben stories to share? I'm sad there isn't any more on him as a character.
Another entertaining tale 🎉
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Hello again Ed, I come back to ask you once more about the Pirate Isles and if you have anything more in your pocket about them as I look forward to see what you have got. I was very happy with the book about Mulhorand.
Awesome story as usual and congrats of reaching 50k subs! 100k will come soon I'm sure, Godspeed!
Should have 2 million subs!
@@sebbonxxsebbon6824 Yes!
I like that you use the coronation portrait of king Oscar II of Sweden to represent the king.
Lesson learned tell a dragon the truth!
I like the words they are easy to pronounce...phonetic? Anyway..another great tale Ed. My question is about the heirs..the dragoness and the king mated? Had children? More info about this line of dragonmen?
Draconic ancestry is possible for humanoids, certainly, especially given the fact that Faerunian Dragons can shapeshift into humanoids.
@@GrahamRocks i was not aware dragons COULD shapeshift. To my knowledge they can polymorph but that doesnt change their reproductive compatibility... Well not in faerun anyway..dragonlance i know its canon since well...fizban..but to my recollection dragons in the forgotten realms use magic to change shape not natural ability.
Did some refresher reading and found age has altered some memories..lol what i said about polymorph and shapeshift, reverse it and send it...which is to say, polymorph allows the recipient to fully transform to the altered form and be capable of reproduction, shapeshift is extraneous and cannot.
@@Keef_DGAF Only gold and silver (which appeared to be 'loosely' inspired by oriental mythological dragons rather than western style mythological dragons) could shapeshift in the original AD&D and that iirc did appear to be a natural ability, though seemingly constrained by the spell of the same names description apart from as otherwise noted? .. though nothing in any of the pre-forgotten-realms material I can recall ever seemed to suggest reproductive ability came with the shape shift, though nothing said it didn't either of course, which probably just means no one on that early development team ever thought about it as a possibility that needed any mention one way or the other.
Of course there was also always the possibility of any rare spell using dragon (of any type able to have high enough spells, so Bronze and Red dragons) to have the spell and use that in place of the Gold and Silvers natural ability.
If (as I always assumed) they're natural ability was supposed to be the Polymorph Self spell then I wouldn't think reproductive compatibility came with the form, Polymorph Other I would expect that it would, the two spells have different descriptions and tertiary elements that suggest that to me, though nothing is said explicitly either way on the subject of reproduction in either spell description.
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Howsoever, that's all from 1st edition AD&D, and memory with only a casual glance here and there at the books for reference, I've no idea what's in 3rd edition and upwards and only casual awareness of 2nd edition outside of the contents of the PH and DMG .. and I'm ignoring any of the novels.
@@pelinoregeryon6593 very nice reply, not so sure about the silver/gold thing though... Platinum/gold i know canon about bahamut and its 7 golden songbirds...
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Good story. I think the trick is to reincarnate or instants duration transform yourself into an elf, or (more difficult and expensive) celestial type of your choice.
Still need a reliable mage, but easier than a wish spell as others suggested.
This tale made me consider something novel: although lichdom is achieved by spellcasters leveraging their capabilities to succeed in the necessary ritual, as far as I can tell the process never required the magic user performing the act to be the only acceptable target. I hereby introduce the concept of a quasi-lich.
A quasi-lich is technically a lich in form and in undead state, and has their soul bound to a phylactery, but they themselves have no proficiency or training in the Art. This is one way to have an immortal ruler that always returns, no matter the number and skill of assassins set against them. Said undead monarch would then swiftly deal with the conspirators, exposed by their attempt at overthrowing their sovereign.
These quasi-liches may still go through the motions of supping at feasts and sipping fine wines, but such delicacies stir not their senses nor fortify their frail-appearing and emaciated forms. Their phylacteries still must feast from time to time upon the souls of the common folk, a "necessary sacrifice" for continued stability of the realm at the hands of wise and patient (albeit twisted) rulers.
Monarchs are the most likely to become quasi-liches, as they have the resources (in both funds and magic-weilding subjects), are in a stable enough positions in life to orchestrate the process, and have thr vested interest and ambition to overcome any fear of failure (or success). Yet, others may go through the process if they have the means; grandmasters of the martial arts, great heroes such as dragonslayers and legendary generals, one of a triumvirate of kingpins that run a region-spanning theives guild, etc..
Just a thought.
Good vid Ed! 💯👍
Well done! Thank you!
now was it Vagys daughter or grand daughter that took over for him?
I'm here, I'm here.
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Just to show us, that all nobles are lizard people.
Not going to lie.. this was the better option lol
He was looking for copper, but found gold.
I wish he was my Dm.
It's a fun story though poor princess. I mean she was rude but as a women I can empathize with wanting to shut down much older suitors as clearly as possible because hints sadly don't always work.
lets see the king demands to my she wizard" Make me young again"
Ishtiana( my she wizard) ok and cast magicks
king regains youth and goes to open his mouth
Ishtiana laughs, oh you should ahve been more specific, you said to make you young again, you didnt say young what.
young king looks at Ishtiana with evil itent
Istiana smirks I did as you comanded and made you young again, made you a deaf mute 16 year old princess and do learn to live with yourself and do remember the specifics matter as she turns leaving in a puff of smoke.
the young princess looks upon herself and unable to say anything turning to her staff......
DM careful what you ask for... hahaha
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