Splatoon 3 - Nintendo Switch - The Digital Foundry Tech Review
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- Опубліковано 11 лип 2024
- Nintendo improves, refines and increases the scope of the Splatoon formula for its latest first-party Switch game. John Linneman stacks it up against prior Splatoon offerings, lauds the big improvements to the single-player portion of the game and focuses on the technological changes and rock solid performance.
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Seeing all these details broken down gives me such a greater appreciation for the work that goes into all these games
omg seargent spaceman
Yeah!! That’s the idea! Very cool indeed
I loved the Ike vid. Cool to see you here!
NO matter your view on Nintendo and their games I think we all have to appreciate the fact that they target 60fps in 90% of their exclusive games and that's on a mobile chip from 2015 with 3GB of slow af ram for games!
Like i always say i prefer framerate over graphics i mean obviously to a certain degree like I don't want 1p you know lol but 720p is fine to me we don't need 4k on any nintendo console tbh i just want 60 fps to be a standard with Nintendo that's it that's all it will take to satisfy me. Having said that i think this game should absolutely win the best multiplayer game award it's how a multiplayer game should be
I wish they did that with BotW and its sequel.
I'm glad Nintendo pushes FPS over anything else and usually never uses much anti-aliasing. They know what's most important.
@@company-income That i believe is way more ambitious than splatoon to be at 60 fps on the switch poor hardware that would require a substantial next-gen upgrade
@@TimelessWolf2077 yeah, agreed. The tegra x1 was already two years old or so in 2017.
The prebaked GI works wonders for the game's looks. It also makes it quite a bit more readable.
Happy to see you here Tim
@@gelso22 I'm a bona fide nerd ;)
These days I tend to forget how how good Switch games can look- but this reminds me they can look bloody great 😊
Something Splatoon 2 and 3 both do graphically is they simulate global illumination from light reflecting off ink. Characters and objects sitting on top of ink will pick up a bit of colored under-lighting from the color of the ink on the ground. Test it in the Lobby using the moving targets! Put some ink on the ground and notice how the targets get a bit of colored light underneath them when they move onto the ink. I think they might even do it on walls as well!
Even if I haven't played previous Splat games I think this one would be great in my collection 🙏🏽👍🏾
The first time I played any Splatoon was in the recent Splatfest trial. It was super fun despite my being absolutely terrible at and getting destroyed by clearly more advanced players. I only wish there was an actual local multiplayer option for couch co-op. Head to head battles would fun if it didn’t require a second Switch and game purchase.
Thanks for demonstrating the improvements in Splat 3 so clearly. Very excited for this release.
Same, never got into splatoon 2 but something about it grabbed me n from playing the splatfest, definitely a day 1 for me
@@ravkhar927 buying it on the switch with money
@@ramonandrajo6348 probably no multiplayer for a while for you then
@@ramonandrajo6348 that reply made no sense elaborate it to me better and why I'm a fanboy
@@ramonandrajo6348 How're you going to publically announce you pirating a game and not expect some people to tell you to buy it. IDC about piracy- specially if it's towards Nintendo. But that's insanely cringe, keep it to yourself and enjoy the game.
Hey John and DF, could you guys please start covering input latency in your analysis?
and network performance
It’s really not that big of a deal and people are blowing it way out of proportion
@@SmallHappyOtter You could say the same for literally everything DF cover yet here we are.
@@MerryBlind tbh I think they rarely are. Just a lot of the industry is kind of catty and like to have headlines like cod on Xbox less framerate worse game says DF lol were as if you watch there videos they just break them down very precisely and fairly unbiased although not entirely but I don't think anything can be really
I am sure the "nice looking water" guy from WiiU Miiverse would appreciate this water.
I played through the campaigns of Splatoon 1 and 2 and dabbled with the multiplayer. I am excited to play 3 and actually give this series more of an attempt. Actually get a little more involved, play the multiplayer a lot more.
@@ramonandrajo6348 What is wrong with you?
@@ramonandrajo6348 Not enough pesos to buy Nintendo games at full price Pedro?
Despite everything you can blame them for, i will never stop loving Nintendo. God i needed these colours and these vibes.
60fps and 1080p was good enough for me in SP 2 , so happy to hear that ! Iv got over 1000 hours in splatoon 2 , I’m very excited for 3 it has so much new stuff if your a hardcore fan
900+hrs myself, yes a lot of little things! I play mostly ranked, so would have loved a new ranked mode for launch. I guess that “new” experience is a little lacking across the board and a few missed opportunities. New stages are a bit samey and boxy so far. Great quality of life and aesthetic improvements though!
@@JonathanAnimate2 I agree with you I usually played ranked also S+ all over , inn X I got my ass kicked 😅 But the roadmap will certainly be good if not great . Im not the a huge DLC dude but I trust team squid will deliver som cool stuff . Woomy ,
@@yeppyepp111 X is hard to maintain that's for sure. DLC though could be tipping point for many to get the expansion pass. 2 years of updates... Makes you think about next gen plans, backwards compatibility etc.
John actually got me hyped on this game. This was really great. I just love the DF angle on games next to your standard reviews. Both are valuable
There's just something soothing about the way I feel every time I watch a digital foundry video
Fantastic video! Really enjoyed this, and can’t wait to play on Friday!!! It’s almost time!!!
I’ve never heard anyone call the first Splatoon drab. I bit dramatic. 😂
Use Motion controls!
It’s amazing of what devs are continuing to pull out of the switch hardware.
It’s barely noticeable between 2 & 3. Not hating either, I’m hyped af to play S3 but let’s call a spade a spade.
It looks pretty different to me, the lighting and colour palette, better resolution so the aliasing isn't as bad as 2....quite obviously a better looking game.
@@jlb4685 the upgrade isn’t massive by any stretch, but splattoon 2 was already a pretty game. I like the subtle improvements.
Bright neon contrasty graphics is part of the Splatoon appeal. I don’t want realistic looking squid kids.
That would be stuff of nightmares.
DF has never mentioned this, but Splatoon 3 uses FSR 1.0 to render the surfaces of ink and through transparent windows at a lower resolution (possibly 50%) as a subtle way of reducing the amount of pixels rendered. This FSR scaling is also forced on for the overhead and objective camera in replay mode as DRS in those scenes may have been too distracting.
The DRS implementation still uses bilinear scaling like previous games as FSR upscaling would lead to a noticeably blurrier image and its performance overhead may create a feedback loop and cause the game to lower resolution further.
thank u for the review. I had the impression that there was moving clouds in the sky making shadows on the maps of Splatoon 1 and 2 but not in the 3.
👍
I love Splatoon single player. I played it on WiiU first.
Octo Expansion for Splatoon 2 is fantastic.
that boss fight in the first game was insane fun.
@@ramonandrajo6348 why do you keep replying this same comment?
I replayed it so many times that I already know the background music at the beginning is from El Shaddai. XD
How it's even possible is a technical feet onto itself.
Splatoon 1 still has an active online community. Makes sense seeing how Splatoon 2 requires paid online. I went back to Splatoon 1 because of that. However, Splatoon 3 looks to be a proper sequel as opposed to a Splatoon 1+.
I played the Splatfest Premiere demo and I absolutely loved it. My only gripe would be how powerful the ranged attacks weapons like the Splatana and Brush have. Those attacks were a little irritating but I still had a blast playing and I'm looking forward to playing the final game. TEAM ROCK!!! Oh and I was genuinely impressed that I experienced minimal lag. Now maybe Nintendo should apply these servers to their other games.
2 games already use this new server tech.
MHRise and Pokemon Legends.
They were beta testing it as their new iteration to use for the forseeable future of online games. (Splatoon 3 seems like it will b the final test)
So expect full adoption of it on every game with multi, by next gen Nintendo hardware.
@@Daigon95 Well I was specifically talking about Smash and Mario Kart 8. I did play Smash online a little and experienced the lag. It was pretty bad. I wouldn't have kept playing it online anyway because I suck at fighting games. Mario Kart 8 I haven't played online but I've heard it's been kind of laggy lately.
@@SolidusSnake001 I've heard some ppl who are alot more tech savvy in online infrastructure and they say it can possibly b retrofitted into older games like Smash or MK8. But who knows if Nintendo will tbh.
On my personal exp, I havent really exp tht much issue with MK8D, maybe the occasional hiccup, grant it I havent played online alot the past year. So culd b due to the new tracks added into rotation tht is causing something.
Smash though I agree. lol Reason I stick to playing with friends since our general connectivity is stable-ish 95% of the time.
"My only gripe would be how powerful the ranged attacks weapons like the Splatana and Brush have."
The trick is to not go to their faces and to shoot at distances so you don't get hit lol
@@Vyz3r Kind of hard to do that when most weapons range is about the same as the ranged attack of those weapons.
12:48 Do you think Splatoon 2's renderer was working in gamma space, and 3 maybe linear space? The lost detail in sky and clouds in 2 could be down to aggressive post processing, but the hot whites also remind me of gamma space blowouts 🤔
Either way, the bounced light in the shadows makes a huge readability difference for the better.
High respect to them for not showing spoilers unlike the leakers!
Splatoon is like having fun in an aquatic park using super soakers XD
I love digital foundry and especially John's work. I always look forward to his videos.
Will there be an analysis of multiplayer modes? I notice a LOT of prolonged frame drops in battles and especially salmon run.
12:38 the only thing that kinda bothers me is the lighting on the old stages, i'll probably get used to it after a while but the colours just look a bit dull compared to splatoon 2
10:03 "Deez nuts" lmao
I prefer the WiiU look of the colors. Fits better the overall tone of the game.
Not for me but I'll always prefer the ink over there in terms of detail and lighting. It looks like mayonnaise on 2 and 3
I think 3 looks better than 2. But yeah, i think the artstyle in the original worked best
same
i personally like the look of the newer fames but i see what you mean
If someone asked me to do a word association with “Nintendo” I’d have to say the first word that comes to mind is “Polish”. Whether the games are your cup of tea or not the games are polished to a bright glow by release. If only more devs had that knack
They’re probably the last ones to release 1.0 versions that are perfectly playable through and through. Doesn’t apply to all their games (BOTW had its share of patches), but they’re definitely very reliable when it comes to polishing their games.
This is so accurate! 👍
Weird, I'd think "Japanese" rather than "Polish."
Thank you for making this review. I like that Splatoon 3 makes improvements over predecessors.
Surprised that you never mentioned Salmon Run in neither Splatoon 2 or 3. At higher difficulties, the frame rate can drop a lot when there are many bosses on-screen at a time. The mode really pushes the Switch to its limits.
This one is such an improvement in playability everything is fast and snappy could do with less errors like
I preorder it a few minutes ago. It’ll be my first splatoon game
10:42 What's the music name??
What bout the tracks that were in the splatfest is that music in the full game
Being able to overclock the switch and erase the dynamic resolution was great for me.
Me to bro plus with reverse nx you can get max 1080p 60fps in handled bro try it out i'v just tested out
Well Johnny boy I think you sold me on getting the game, nice video
By far, the best breakdown of this game. Thank you
Getting a Switch OLED soon. I haven't played a Nintendo game since the original Wii when I bought it just to play Mario Galaxies. So many games to catch up on. Haven't even played Breath of the Wild yet..
What is the song that plays at 9:13 ?
Did you figure it out?
"The way cutscenes are presented is kinda not much of an improvement from the other games, BUT hey! At least there's a nice Bokeh Depth-of-field in use here".
Made me chuckle. 🤣. That's a very Digital Foundry humour right there..
I'm honestly impressed by the massive hub world this time. Just think about it, the map is almost 4 times larger and significantly more complex than the previous game running on the exact same hardware, and they didn't compromise on the visual fidelity or performance targets at all. Not to mention Big Run takes place in this hub world now, so there's another version of this same map in the game that is optimized for 60fps Big Run gameplay. With these results, I wouldn't be too surprised if someone ported the Splatoon 2 map to Splatoon 3's engine and got it running at 60fps with the ability to ink the map as if inside a match. There's some significant software optimization improvements here, FidelityFX or not.
Can you guys do a video on the Sony Inzone M9 please
Finally the switch should see real usage again. My wife has been waiting over a year for this.
It is going to be my first Splatoon game. Im excited
>stick controls
lol, lmao even
Is this a MP only game?
for my eyes, the water in first splatoon reminds me of the sea rendered in Xenoblade 3.
Love your work but found it odd you made most of your comparisons of S3 to S1 and not S3 to S2 given S2 is the direct predecessor.
It's because they were comparing maps and most of the returning maps are from 1 not 2
Honestly runs really well. I got some gameplay
I want digital Foundry to make a Video about Dreamlight Valley game
Non motion control gameplay always makes me so irrationally uncomfortable why do you do this to me.
@@ramonandrajo6348 I said its irrational as I understand they aren't for everyone but the game looks so cursed with no aim assist stick gameplay
Looks great. On a side note... will there be another DF analysis video on the new CP2077 1.6 patch?
Lol no one plays that shit anymore
I wonder how haters react to a DF Tech Analysis of a Switch game.
8:11 what's the name of the track playing in the background?
I'm really hoping someone will reply, the track is very good and I'd like to know as well.
Darude - Sandstorm
*sees intro*
Is this Metro Exodus?
12:22: Completely beside the point, but is that the same jellyfish making the same painting?
13:28: Again, completely beside the point but I am really enjoying that shade of purple (and, checking, I think it's a new Salmon Run colour - The S2 colours were Pink - a more fusciaesque shade than anything resembling that purple, Orange and Blue (which while a purpley shade of blue was, again nowhere near that shade of purple)
Great vid, as usual! But it's not paint, it's ink.
I'm glad they didn't change the formula. I could ask for more but the way things go nowadays, I'm glad we have an excellent game on a better format.
This might be an unpopular take, but I actually slightly prefer a few shots from the original Splatoon, not taking texture quality into account. The hotel map upon the water for example, its water while yes, bloomy, looks miles better than the warbling mess in 3. The Museum map as well, I feel, looks much more stylized. It's not a bit preference but that's just how I feel right now.
Yeah I do too, I think it's due to the harsher shadows throughout the game.
Yeah same. I like when games have bloom. I know people got tired of it especially during the ps3 360 era but imo it loons nicer
Wait how does it use AMD Fidelity FX when it have an Nvidia SOC?
I must say I like the water from Splatoon 1 more than in 3, but other than that it looks very good
Switch was made for games like this.
@@ramonandrajo6348 A 2022 game its a old game for you?
@@ramonandrajo6348 nah i didnt mean old games its the game style colorful and simple but very efective.
I miss the the hazy look of Splatoon 1 and the bloom as well as the little particles in the air in inkopolis square
Also the returning maps are kinda disappointing
I loved the idea of hammerhead bridge having more of an arena-like design
So it “finishing construction” is disappointing
The grates really added some new strategies which other Splatoon maps really lack
Splatoon maps are too open for my liking
I love a lot of the game not just hating on it but I def got problems
@@ramonandrajo6348 I dunno about that but I’m not too fond of the art style change or the changes to maps like hammerhead
Like I never thought Splatoon’s maps could get any smaller (looking at Mahi mahi)
can you test the input latency especially the gyro, seems to be the same as Spaltoon 2 which feels quite sluggish
The latency is the same
Smoothing has been reduced
I played Splatfest and its incredibly smooth even in MP
That's a hardware limitation, so no. The gyro in the Wii U gamepad was better and more precise than any other currently available controller, so it will sadly not feel as good as S1 in that aspect
@@VagrantValmar no
It's that Nintendo isn't willing to fix their game engine
Fast RMX (on the switch) has 3 frame latency like Splatoon 1
The gyro is good, connect it to a PC and map the gyro to the mouse and you'll see it w/o any dumb smoothing
12:20 feel it in my plummsss...
Man this game looks great, especially with the minimized bloom effect. But why won't they just give us a 60fps hub ;c
@@ramonandrajo6348 can you play multiplayer? or just single player
im guessing its just too busy for them to do that
@@ramonandrajo6348 Pretendo is a solution for Wii U and 3DS devices for non-Nintendo servers. If you pirate either of those systems you can play online no problem without Pretendo. Pretendo has nothing to do with Splatoon 3 nor any Switch game or device
@@ramonandrajo6348 ???
@@ramonandrajo6348 i'll send you money to buy it if you promise to stop spamming.
Does anyone know the song that plays at 8:11?
Trying it find it as well, got anything so far?
Sadly no, I tried looking through all the Splatoon ost's and I couldn't find it.
Its not actually paint you are spraying. Its ink. Hence the squids.
10:03 DEEZ NUTS
I have a feeling that this game’s paid expansion is going to be phenomenal.
Way too early to begin thinking about that
@@ErenTheWarcriminal I'm positive they already confirmed there will be one though, simply didn't show it but money is on another campaing ala Octo expansion.
Soul Hackers 2 next gen comparison next plz
Can yall test Fsr 2.0 in RDR2?
Wouldn't a quantum leap be really really really small?
So what’s the one game that’s worth having stadia for?
I think Splatoon drops frames in salmon run fairly often. I also experienced a lower framerate in some situations in ranked battle
It might need a more aggressive dynamic resolution to compensate imo
Is John okay? He sounded really tired in this video
I know for a fact that it goes to 45 fps or below in the hub area
Somewhat ironic that the Switch uses Nvidia tech, but they're forced to use AMD's upscaling tech instead of Nvidia's.
If they keep with the hybrid system for their next gen system. Then they will most likely use one of the 2 most recent iterations of the Tegra chipset.
Which both hav tensor core hardware built in, so they can easily use DLSS.
@@one_step_sideways *APU not iGPU.
Also the Tegra X1 is using 2nd generation Maxwell architecture, which is along the GTX 900 series. (not saying equal in power, but saying architecture) Where the GTX 700 series was 1st gen.
2nd gen Maxwell is able to support real time voxel global illumination, so it prevents it from being hard on performance, which the Crysis 2 remaster port on Switch uses. (also has dx12 support where 1st gen doesnt)
There’s a reason why Microsoft and Sony ditched Nvidia.
Awesome! This is my first Splatoon and glad to hear the single player is meaty because during Splatfest multiplayer a couple weeks ago I got whooped.
Play more wins aren't even that common in competitive play, just have fun even if you don't win
@@AsecasJavi that's good to hear! Yep just have fun that's the ticket.
I hate online competitive games, but I love splatoon. I played 2 a bunch and it's one of the few online games that I actually still have loads of fun when I'm getting totally whooped
The singleplayer in Splatoon usually is the best starting point for new players because it gives you a bit more time and space to play with the mechanics without so much pressure.
I also highly recommend checking out srb2dude's video titled: How to Optimize Aim & FIX Motion Control Issues For Splatoon 2 (BEST Motion Control Guide 2020)
Even though this video is for Splatoon 2, most of the same principles will apply to Splatoon 3, and they'll help the controls feel a lot more consistent!
@@AKA-Latromi ohh I saw some of his videos thanks ill check that video out! Also I saw his character in my hub world during splatfest haha.
And do you know what guys? Splatoon 1 online is still up, free, and playable today! (avoid to play late night though, when matchmaking struggles more)
I like how they call it "hair"
The fact Splatoon looks as great as it does while running on an ancient chip is outstanding! Easily my favorite Switch and Wii U games by a mile. They sold the consoles for me they're so insanely fun
They are masters when it comes to art direction i mean don't believe me look at Windwaker It is a gamecube game and it looks amazing and aged incredibly well and looks like a modern day game. I think botw will also be looked at like that in 5 years time or even TOTK (Tears Of The Kingdom)
@@TimelessWolf2077 Funny you say that since Miyamoto actually hated the art style when he first saw it. The dev team knew he and many people would so they actually hid it until further in development when it couldn't be changed as easily. Initial reactions of the public were mixed but almost everyone has come around to love it now
@@willwunsche6940 huh interesting
@@TimelessWolf2077 Completely agree most artists at Nintendo are masters at art direction though. So many amazing looking games that hold up today with such charm and polish
Game looks fantastic , but it can’t really improve graphically much further without sacrifices .
But now for the real question
Are you team rock, paper, or scissors?
Great to see a 60 FPS / high res game on the Switch, there have been quite a few games in recent times that don't bother.
@@ramonandrajo6348 You don't make any sense. Saying it's great to see a 60 FPS / high res game is nowhere near "defending Nintendo at all costs."
@@logicalfundy just ignore him. he's a spam troll. but I do agree with you, I think more switch games should make use of AMD fsr like splat 3 and switch sports are using.
easy mistake, but it's ink not paint.
Ok but why there is comparison between first Splatoon and Splatoon 3?
I guess it means that I don't have to upgrade my S2 :)
How are people getting the game early?
Review copy
Hey Rockstar, this is how it's done, three new titles on one system. Not one old title spread over three generations! Noted was on WiiU but still the same 😁
Finally... Something interesting.
Can you skip the news segments in 3?
You can! Just press the left stick after the title screen and you'll be able to hear the news in the background as a radio channel.
00:35 Lol that is an amazing ironic reference… kasumi Ninja… what a Shitshow of a game.
Prior installments not prior versions