The Mk5 GTi still surprises me how good it is as an everyday shopping car. Every now and then I think about replacing it with a 7, but then I look at the used values and what we'd actually gain, then pretty soon I just stop looking. The Ed30 is very nice but our daily 5dr manual standard GTi on 17's is perfect transport. When you need to move it still shocks and sometimes embarrasses much newer and more expensive cars. Also- no finance. Edit- in Romania where we live you'll struggle to find a nice condition mk5 GTi for less than 6k euros. This is a complete bargain in the UK.
@@sparkplug964 On paper? Yes. In the real world? Absolutely not. I have driven several Mk7 GTIs on my local roads and i can't corner them any faster as i can with my Mk5 GTI. All the cars, including mine, got modded suspensions though so the biggest difference probably is when comparing an stock suspension Mk5 GTI vs an stock suspension Mk7 GTI since there's a massive leap in suspension development there of course. When both cars are on your typical coilovers though, there really isn't much in it. In tight first-second gear turns the variable steering rack and the locking diff from the Mk7 can become in super handy though. At the same time the steering of the Mk7 is awfully numb though whereas the Mk5 seemingly transfers the road into your hand. You could also always add an limited slip diff to the Mk5 of course. Something that's really annoying about the Mk7 is the stability control though. When i turn off the stability control in my Mk5 GTI and enter a corner really aggresive on the brake with additional turning the rear of that thing will absolutely swing on ya. Same goes for throttle lift off in a corner paired with additonal turning. If you do something like that in the Mk7, even with the stability control full turned off, there's always super annoying intervention which completely kills the fun of that otherwise pretty excellent chassis for me. The engines of the Mk7's are far superior though, no doubt. You can drive an IS38 setup, tuned to roughly 400hp, and got the same early spool as with an Mk5 GTI's K03 which of course is only capable of ~270-280hp.
Looking forward to the restoration. I have an Ed30, which I also bought as a trade sale in 2019 with 68k for £5900 (absolute bargain in hindsight). Had a soft spot for one since being a mechanic in the VW racing cup when these were new. Done 35k miles in it since and still puts a smile on my face down any B road. Looking forward to the next episode.
Love the Mk5, a nice project indeed. Not surprised the wings aren't original - I had an 06 plate Passat SE 2.0 TDi estate that had the front wings replaced under warranty by VW. Think the issue with the front wings bubbling up & rusting from within on the arch was pretty common in that era
Yeah the issue is that they have a sponge like material in that area of the wings, probably designed to reduce rattling, but unfortunately over time the soak in water and cause these spots to rust, right at the top of the wheels on the Mk5 Golf and just next to the door on the Passat. I recently bought a 06 Passat myself and the left wing completely rusted through in this spot and I now noticed the sponge myself.
Those wheels are the BBS VZ033 and not the OEM Pescaras, as you say. They were a good a alternative back in the day when Pescaras were notoriously hard to come by. Not only is the offset different, but the size of that wheel is 0.5inches wider than OEM. The VZ033 will poke out 13.4mm more than OEM.
Thanks Ross - I had a set of the VZ033 fitted to my old Edition 30 for track use, they were bright silver as they were bought lightly used and looked amazing, better than the silver grey originals so might go bright silver again.TBH the additional offset and width is a bonus as it looks great while still looking OEM. Sightly wider track should increase stability and traction too albeit marginally.
as a owner of a mk5 gti and having a new engine just put in. im happy that i can drive a manual 4 door top spec as well with the heated seats and all, she is a dream to corner and she sounds wonderful with a 72inch downpipe and res delete! people hear me from miles!
Glad to see a MK5 GTI back on the channel Andrew. It's the reason I started watching you and why I bought one of my very own a few years ago. Looking forward to the future content with this car 👌
Always loved an edition 30. The smaller ET on the wheels might not be factory spec, but I think it is a welcome upgrade, definitely looks and handles better. What a nice piece of kit this car is!
Thanks Vlad. Yes weirdly I fitted these very BBS VZ to my last one for track use. They were a crisp silver (not like the OEM wheels) and looked mega on that red 3 door. What colour do I go for now though?
@@volkswizard I ran for a few months a set of silver BBS CH0025 on my ex candy white mk6 GTI. I would go for a dark gunmetal grey. Looks really smart and shows the details of the wheels, unlike full black. However on black cars silver seems to be a nice match, but I'd keep these BBS wheels with smaller ET and lowered a bit with some lowering springs or coilovers, proper fitment. A refurb and they're good as new. Cheers mate!
I've got a 2008 Mk5 but it's the four door Jetta which I can't use as I need to replace the nearside driveshaft (split inner boot) and no one has been able to undo the driveshaft bolt - so far about three broken breaker-bars! I think the car itself is quite rare though: 1.9TDI DSG Blue with beige upholstery - immaculate, only 35,000 miles.
Great video! FYI there’s a really high pitched whine from about 3:40 Not sure if it’s the mic or maybe some other device interfering with the recording, but maybe something to investigate!
Thanks Joseph. This was filmed at an industrial area with a lot of background noise and possible interference which is out of my control so I'll just have to put it down to that. Does it do it all the way through from then on? I'm listening on my laptop speakers which aren't the best for detail.
mk5 has a fantastic chassis. I would say better than the stripped out, MQB efficiency driven in mk7. Feels solid like a rock, stable, planted and the suspension setup is great, doesn't feel hard and it also doesn't send shocks in the chassis on potholes.
I have a lovely Edition 35, bought it approved used last year with 40k 3 dr white, DSG with some lovely options. I love it, I don’t want to put any miles on it though 😂
Really like the Edition 30 golf although they are getting scabby these days. Surprising how much the mk5 rusts in comparison to a mk4 I owned for many years. Excellent choice 👍🏼
Looking forward to seeing more of this! Recently back into a MK5 (07 candy white GTi) after regretfully selling my last one I owned for near 8 years. Didn't realize how crusty these cars can get..not long after a full underbody resto, respray next!
Hi Andrew, a guy that lives near me is selling his Mk 5 Gti in Tornado Red, he’s had it from new pretty sure it’s done between 10,000-20,000 miles. He also owned the Mk1 Golf Gti that VW uses as a press car ,
I'd be interested, if you can get him to email me andrew@volkswizard.co.uk I wonder if he had anything to do with the bodykit on that Mk1 that VW took off in 2004
@@volkswizard I’m pretty sure he had the Mk1 from Germany , he mentioned the rear windows were tinted darker , think it had a subtle body kit when he bought it. He’s probably in his 70s now , I haven’t seen him drive the Mk5 for years. Will go and see him over the weekend, we live In Newcastle Emlyn, West Wales.
I felt your pain looking at your face whilst you drove it home, it's so stressful limping home in a poorly car! Looks as though with a bit of Volkswizard tlc it'll be right as rain in no time and I know you know the mk5's very well 😊
I had a 2007 in silver here in the states. Loved that car… sold it when I bought my 2019 GTI. I like that you always drive a manual transmission as well.
Great video Andrew, looking forward to the restoration on your mk5, and definitely start a collection of the anniversary golf all manual transmission 💯, this would be great I'd love to see that happen 👍🏻
@volkswizard wish my wife would let me do what I want with my car buying. Before I met her, I had a Caterham 7, a very unreliable TVR V8 350i and a mk1 Cupra R (the only car I ever bought new). Now I have 3 kids and only one car 😭
I've had mine for 10yrs, driven nearly 120,000 miles and now its clocked over 200,000. Seeing you drive with those characteristics, from experience I knew what those faults would more than likely be! Don't forget there is TWO thermostats. Many doesn't realise this and the culprit for temp issues is the In-line Thermostat. It sits below the throttle body and easily accessible from under the car. 4E0121113 Part number.
Very nice! I have the late 09’ DSG MK5 GTI 5 door in black. Which is at 83k and it’s in very nice condition! Currently getting a new CV joint today. Will be interested to see your plans with the ED30.
Nice! 09 is late. Cv boots are so common, I guess the joints get damaged when the boot is open and letting in rubbish. Oh well, could be worse and otherwise tough 👍👍
Brings back great memories of when I had a new fully loaded GTI Edition 30 which I bought without seeing the spec. I can’t wait to see the restoration.
Nice project car. Your red Ed30 a few years back in the days of VW Motoring magazine had me following it (and you). I've still got my 07 Candy White Ed30 (3dr Manual) which this weekend comes up to 16 years...I still remember ordering it from the dealer. And yes you're correct Ed30 'Pescara' wheels were et51 and 7.5 wide...which were not great for getting chunky brakes behind..
13 years ago I was in the market for a mk5 gti but irish prices were 4-€5000 more than an equivalent fr leon (08 197bhp) never regretted it 👍 have you ever done a b2b review on one compared to a gti?,,,, great content 👌
R32 is a good car but it feels a bit slow these days while a remap to one of these brings modern day levels of performance for peanuts. R32 sounds better though and looks great 👌
Just the right amount wrong with it for that kind of money and will be a keeper once you've completed it with that mileage. When you come to that drivers side scab on the rear sill/wheel arch I hope it's not like my 06 4Motion where it's got in the folded edge at the bottom of the arch and will need cutting out, but look forward to following this one! Great content!
Nice mate was looking at editon 30s myself the other day. Have a regular mk5 gti atm - was debating whether or not to do a ko4 swap or just buy an edition 30 instead… subbed for the series !
Thanks! In my professional opinion buy the Edition 30 as it won’t depreciate and you’ll be investing in a classic every time you spend on it. Modify a normal one and all that cash will be wasted and may even devalue the car. Just my opinion though 👍👍
@@volkswizard yeah these are the things I’ve been contemplating… probably cheaper to get a second hand ko4 swap done but like you say the money is going no where.
Yes they have mentioned it before but it’s interesting to gauge how many people work it out. First owner had it until 2020 so it was since then, IIRC last owner put it on. He wanted extra for it, but when negotiating I wasn’t really that bothered but quite like it now
5 is really a 6 and yes I can see appeal of a 6, the 7 is good but the 6 was probably the last proper Golf even though it was really just a Mk5 that was tweaked to cost less to manufacture
Looking forward to this one! My old ed30 was one of my favourites, great cars. Would love to see a black 25th anni on the channel, guessing decent ones are hard to come by these days though 🤔
Another cool car mate! I saw a silver Mk5 R32 this morning (I had a black one for 5 years) and it made me want a Mk5! Looking for a GTD estate if you know of one with DCC mate.
Great video you got a steal there with that low mileage are you keeping it ? how come the Audi A3 is having a second came belt and water pump with such low mileage do you know something we don’t lol is it a precaution we should be taking ? Keep the videos coming 👏 don’t forget to change the cam follower and check the cam belt and the chain tensioners as the engine has a belt and a chain as l learnt after an expensive bill 😢👍🏽 also yeah start a collection of golf GTi that be nice as in the future it will be worth lot a money in the future.
Thanks Jernaine! Yes the car is staying for the forseeable future. I don't know where you are but cambelts are due every 5 years regardless of mileage here in the UK. Cambelt isn't due just yet on the GTI as it was changed under 5 years ago (same rule for pretty much every car). OK I'll start looking for a Mk4 next I think, I always tell people to not be too fussy about colour when looking for a good example of an older car but I'm going to have to ignore my own advice this time 🖤
Hi Fantastic I had a new one same spec but in red I put genuine tinted glass in it aswell as it had standard glass Absolutely loved it So much better than the standard gti of its time Keep up the good work Tim
I know you’re an expert but from bitter experience it’s worth checking behind the rear wheel arch liners for the sill ends.. the black plastic flap has two drain holes that block with compost….
It’s cool, not a lot has moved on with Mk7, until mk8 a GTI had same 230 PS. And it still has basically the same chassis as mk5. All mk5 misses is a clever diff
Not removing the plastic cover of the motor and inspecting the motor from every angle...... Makes us believe you know only VWs from looks..... And ugly rims. Yes, this IS criticism....
You may be interested in that but most people won’t be. You could criticise me for not showing the underneath of it too. It’s important to keep videos concise and punchy and also got to save stuff for later videos. My pedigree with VWs speaks for itself in past videos so criticising how much I know VWs from this one video just makes you look a bit silly 🤷
Still looks a nice car fair play, I remember almost buying the ed35 , just couldn't afford it at the time and put my money into my home instead... look forward to seeing its revival on the channel
The interior looks nice as the soft touch plastics have a tendency to wear. It's funny to me that you have to check for rust as I have never seen rust on even a MKIV Golf here in Australia. The biggest issue is the cost of timing belts and water pumps it really makes it an expensive used proposition even using an independent shop.
Good point re interior, the drivers door pull by electric window switches often gets trashed but this one is mint. It had 1 doctor owner until 2021 so maybe he didn't wear a ring and was pretty careful. Do your roads get salted? Here in the winter the roads are covered in salt which is very corrosive. It dries to a dust which is OK but time it badly and be on the road when the salt is rained on and you get this hideous corrosive solution that gets everywhere. Not helped by VW sticking a foam pad in front wings of Mk4 and 5 that soaks it all up and causes the wings to rust. Cambelt change and water pump every 5 years is a drag for sure, luckily I can DIY and on this later Mk5 with a 2 piece cambelt cover it's not that difficult.
I've not seen it on a Mk5 but have done a few on older cars, it usually pisses the owner off so much they decide to sell the car as garage used to find it hard to diagnose as they didn't have basic diagnostics 15 years ago. Got some good cheap cars because of G28 - unlike this one they weren't cheap because the labour to replace is massive as they were a lot easier on on older cars (B5 Passat and Mk4 Golf)
Ah! I thought the moss on the front bumper was coolant! Going to be an interesting project, yes start a collection. The one that got away for me was a Black Pirelli Edition in 2015 ☹️
Subbed! I've got a pirelli edition and love it...although I've got a baby on the way so unfortunately might have to let it go for a wagon. Anyone else comfortably driving around in a golf with a small family???
Had a mk 5 for ages and even with cutting back the water holding underfelt on the front wings, they still went. So yh, I'd assume they've been done....which saves you doing it! Black is easiest to match as well.
It’s a pain isn’t it. This car lived in Scotland for most of its life but Glasgow rather than Highlands so hopefully avoided the worst of the weather. Have seen underneath and it’s good but wings clearly had it early on. Can’t wait to wash it and see colour match. Maybe bonnet was painted. Match to doors could be interesting if not blended though as you say black is not the worst colour
@@volkswizard I'm in Scotland...and at the seaside. Salt everywhere. I slap waxoil on every couple of years and hope for the best. My 08 passat r36 is starting to bubble on front wings. Luckily they are bolt-on. And it's black... Good luck with project. Looking forward to watching.
7 seasons of spannering in the VW Racing Cup paddock I never saw a Powertrain failure on the Ed30. Most were mapped to around 260-280bhp. On one occasion one of the cars I was looking after the driver found 2nd instead of 4th and buzzed the engine to over 9k RPM only for the clutch to fail. New clutch and its was fine. Amazing really.
Great video. I had an edition 30 too in black, sadly it was written off when a 4x4 hit it at speed. Would love another one. Watching with interest. Good luck with sorting out the problems.
@@volkswizard What have the Romans ever done for us? I’m partial to a vanity plate though, so slightly biased. Someone would definitely buy it I’m sure.
Looks a lovely car, nice find, I’m seeing a lot of my 5 gti’s falling into the hands of those that drive them into the ground. Looking forward to seeing how you return this one to its former glory. I had to replace the crank sensor on an old tt we had, the bolt securing it snapped in the block and it was a royal pain to strip the front end to get a drill in - hope you don’t have the same issue.
Thanks Rob and thanks for that warning, I can totally see how that bolt could snap so I will treat it with respect when I get the spanner on it. It's a big enough job on Mk5 without stripping the front end off 😯
I called vw a few years ago for the price on a replacement gear gaiter on my old mk5 gti and they told me £326 I said if that’s the price for the standard mk5 gti what’s the price for the edition 30’s 😮
I could do with the cash so one day I might have to. Car Vertical provide some very interesting info and have caught a lot of dealers out which is good for the consumer. Never used it but probably ought to
@@volkswizard good to know, I’ve wanted to use it on this clubsport (HW17HPU) that’s been on auto trader for months for 18k, there must be a reason 🤷🏼♂️ ironically I’m looking to upgrade from my A38v tdi to one, just can’t justify the 25k for a decent one, I’d be interested to know of any you may have in stock in the future 👍🏻
The thermostat is faulty because it's not fully closing and therefore the radiator circuit is always open. Yes it will get to 90 at idle due to lack of air flow but as soon as you start driving it drops down which means the car is always running on choke - thermostat should only open at 80 degrees. In the past thermostats used to stick shut when they failed but thankfully VWG is now engineering them to be fail safe and stick open. You just have to read the signs and get it sorted. It's hard to fit but a relatively cheap part.
@@volkswizard oh I see now. Thanks for explaining. I will be watching the future episode on this car. I’ve had my ed30 for 9 years. I noticed the 70C temp in the last cold snap and was told it’s just cos it’s cold. You have now changed my mind back to a faulty stat. Thanks again
I had a similar experience being sold a car from a carsales place in badshot lea recently. Turns out the cutch is duff and the brakes were dangerous,injector leak and turbo . Dodgy people should be shut down.
Super excited for this project as i own an MK5 GTI (k04 converted by now) meself. Here's a free tip : regardless of how they might appear, do both the left and right engine mounts and thank me later.
Thanks for the tip, we used to replace mounts on the older Golfs all the time not so much on Mk5 and they can't last forever so makes sense a refresh will make car drive better - engine mounts are often overlooked but must have a key part in the way the car feels front shifting, to acceleration to refinement.
@@volkswizard Yep, it's in fact quite amazing how much difference these can make, especially in terms of cabinet noises and vibrations. I mean the youngest MK5's are ~14 and the oldest ~19 year old cars. On such ages you really should replace engine mounts just for the sake of it. I in fact had a conversation with an MK7 (R, manual) enthusiast once and he said that he replaced his engine mounts when his car was just 4 years old and that even there it made a noticable difference in terms of refinement on the car.
Mk5's had a recall for the front wings as they rusted at the top of the Arch. So that would explain why it has newer wings. Had mine done on my Mk5 GTI.
It wasn’t a recall, for the first 10 years it was done under warranty no quibbles of customer complained. For years 11 and 12 Vw only funded of cost of you had a good history of being exploited by your local main dealer when it came to servicing and repairs. If you sensibly used a specialist then you were on your own even though car came with a 12 not 10 year warranty - typical behaviour of VW post dieselgate making their customers suffer for their devious behaviour. Also if VW had replaced wings they’d be VW stamped which these aren’t. No bad thing as VW don’t blend paint into door so colour match rarely very good.
@volkswizard sorry didn't mean a recall as such. What you described is right from memory. Looking forward to seeing the progress on this. I currently have a Manual 3 door Golf R Mk7 and still fancy a project gti to work on.
Cracking buy, I paid 700 less for a standard mk5 gti with double the miles 🤣, has all optional extras though and in pretty good knick so thats why I took the gamble on the mileage.
Total coincidence Tony! Don’t know I’m doing a week ahead so planning that back in November would have been impossible. However some subconscious want factor led to this conclusion and that pic no doubt
@@volkswizard oh I've been out of the wheel game for 10 years. I seem to remember BBS launched them in response to all the cheap CH reps. They kind of did a rep of their own wheel. They're 8J rather than 7.5J and unlike a proper CH they're gravity cast, rather than pressure cast. The nicest of the OEM CH style wheels was CH028 from B7 Audis.
I think this is different to all that stuff because it’s the cheapest low miler, not just ‘the cheapest’plus it’s an Edition 30 plus it’s an inaugural episode of a series by a specialist
The Mk5 GTi still surprises me how good it is as an everyday shopping car. Every now and then I think about replacing it with a 7, but then I look at the used values and what we'd actually gain, then pretty soon I just stop looking. The Ed30 is very nice but our daily 5dr manual standard GTi on 17's is perfect transport. When you need to move it still shocks and sometimes embarrasses much newer and more expensive cars. Also- no finance. Edit- in Romania where we live you'll struggle to find a nice condition mk5 GTi for less than 6k euros. This is a complete bargain in the UK.
The Mk7 is a big step forward in power and chase performance.
Am gasit eu un ed30 la 6000. De 20k km merg cu el fara probleme:)
you can use pretty much any hatchback as a shopping car, don't need a GTi for that
@@sparkplug964 On paper? Yes. In the real world? Absolutely not.
I have driven several Mk7 GTIs on my local roads and i can't corner them any faster as i can with my Mk5 GTI. All the cars, including mine, got modded suspensions though so the biggest difference probably is when comparing an stock suspension Mk5 GTI vs an stock suspension Mk7 GTI since there's a massive leap in suspension development there of course.
When both cars are on your typical coilovers though, there really isn't much in it.
In tight first-second gear turns the variable steering rack and the locking diff from the Mk7 can become in super handy though. At the same time the steering of the Mk7 is awfully numb though whereas the Mk5 seemingly transfers the road into your hand. You could also always add an limited slip diff to the Mk5 of course.
Something that's really annoying about the Mk7 is the stability control though. When i turn off the stability control in my Mk5 GTI and enter a corner really aggresive on the brake with additional turning the rear of that thing will absolutely swing on ya. Same goes for throttle lift off in a corner paired with additonal turning. If you do something like that in the Mk7, even with the stability control full turned off, there's always super annoying intervention which completely kills the fun of that otherwise pretty excellent chassis for me.
The engines of the Mk7's are far superior though, no doubt. You can drive an IS38 setup, tuned to roughly 400hp, and got the same early spool as with an Mk5 GTI's K03 which of course is only capable of ~270-280hp.
@@NoName-st6zc Thanks for a good comparison hands-on post 👍
Looking forward to the restoration. I have an Ed30, which I also bought as a trade sale in 2019 with 68k for £5900 (absolute bargain in hindsight). Had a soft spot for one since being a mechanic in the VW racing cup when these were new. Done 35k miles in it since and still puts a smile on my face down any B road. Looking forward to the next episode.
Love the Mk5, a nice project indeed.
Not surprised the wings aren't original - I had an 06 plate Passat SE 2.0 TDi estate that had the front wings replaced under warranty by VW. Think the issue with the front wings bubbling up & rusting from within on the arch was pretty common in that era
I’ve still got Gaffer tape on both front wings to hide the rust 🤣🤣
Yer had my mk5 golf wings done under warranty too. Was something crazy like 10 or 15yr warranty, and vw honoured it. Fair play to vw!
Yeah the issue is that they have a sponge like material in that area of the wings, probably designed to reduce rattling, but unfortunately over time the soak in water and cause these spots to rust, right at the top of the wheels on the Mk5 Golf and just next to the door on the Passat. I recently bought a 06 Passat myself and the left wing completely rusted through in this spot and I now noticed the sponge myself.
@@Waldreth Yep I think SPONGE is the word 👍
Those wheels are the BBS VZ033 and not the OEM Pescaras, as you say. They were a good a alternative back in the day when Pescaras were notoriously hard to come by. Not only is the offset different, but the size of that wheel is 0.5inches wider than OEM. The VZ033 will poke out 13.4mm more than OEM.
Thanks Ross - I had a set of the VZ033 fitted to my old Edition 30 for track use, they were bright silver as they were bought lightly used and looked amazing, better than the silver grey originals so might go bright silver again.TBH the additional offset and width is a bonus as it looks great while still looking OEM. Sightly wider track should increase stability and traction too albeit marginally.
as a owner of a mk5 gti and having a new engine just put in. im happy that i can drive a manual 4 door top spec as well with the heated seats and all, she is a dream to corner and she sounds wonderful with a 72inch downpipe and res delete! people hear me from miles!
Glad to see a MK5 GTI back on the channel Andrew. It's the reason I started watching you and why I bought one of my very own a few years ago. Looking forward to the future content with this car 👌
I like it when people change cam belts by time as well as mileage. So many people forget it’s 5 years OR 75k
I often use that as a negotiation tactic when buying cars, not enough people realise that rubber deteriorates with time not just with use lol
Very under-rated cars. I have a Sunflower Yellow Pirelli Edition with 29k miles and the future is bright 🌞
Cool car, Jap import?
Yes. Immaculate underneath too👍🏻
I just use a soft toothbrush to remove the mould, it don't damage the paint, never use a jet wash!!
Always loved an edition 30. The smaller ET on the wheels might not be factory spec, but I think it is a welcome upgrade, definitely looks and handles better. What a nice piece of kit this car is!
Thanks Vlad. Yes weirdly I fitted these very BBS VZ to my last one for track use. They were a crisp silver (not like the OEM wheels) and looked mega on that red 3 door. What colour do I go for now though?
@@volkswizard I ran for a few months a set of silver BBS CH0025 on my ex candy white mk6 GTI. I would go for a dark gunmetal grey. Looks really smart and shows the details of the wheels, unlike full black. However on black cars silver seems to be a nice match, but I'd keep these BBS wheels with smaller ET and lowered a bit with some lowering springs or coilovers, proper fitment. A refurb and they're good as new. Cheers mate!
I've got a 2008 Mk5 but it's the four door Jetta which I can't use as I need to replace the nearside driveshaft (split inner boot) and no one has been able to undo the driveshaft bolt - so far about three broken breaker-bars! I think the car itself is quite rare though: 1.9TDI DSG Blue with beige upholstery - immaculate, only 35,000 miles.
Great video! FYI there’s a really high pitched whine from about 3:40 Not sure if it’s the mic or maybe some other device interfering with the recording, but maybe something to investigate!
Thanks Joseph. This was filmed at an industrial area with a lot of background noise and possible interference which is out of my control so I'll just have to put it down to that. Does it do it all the way through from then on? I'm listening on my laptop speakers which aren't the best for detail.
mk5 has a fantastic chassis. I would say better than the stripped out, MQB efficiency driven in mk7. Feels solid like a rock, stable, planted and the suspension setup is great, doesn't feel hard and it also doesn't send shocks in the chassis on potholes.
Agreed 👍👍👍👍👍
I have a lovely Edition 35, bought it approved used last year with 40k
3 dr white, DSG with some lovely options.
I love it, I don’t want to put any miles on it though 😂
They are great cars and slightly off the radar 👌
Really like the Edition 30 golf although they are getting scabby these days. Surprising how much the mk5 rusts in comparison to a mk4 I owned for many years. Excellent choice 👍🏼
My 2008 mark 5 Golf has not a hint of rust :) . Its got 64k on the clock but is a match not a gti .
Looking forward to seeing more of this! Recently back into a MK5 (07 candy white GTi) after regretfully selling my last one I owned for near 8 years. Didn't realize how crusty these cars can get..not long after a full underbody resto, respray next!
Hi Andrew, a guy that lives near me is selling his Mk 5 Gti in Tornado Red, he’s had it from new pretty sure it’s done between 10,000-20,000 miles. He also owned the Mk1 Golf Gti that VW uses as a press car ,
I'd be interested, if you can get him to email me andrew@volkswizard.co.uk I wonder if he had anything to do with the bodykit on that Mk1 that VW took off in 2004
@@volkswizard I’m pretty sure he had the Mk1 from Germany , he mentioned the rear windows were tinted darker , think it had a subtle body kit when he bought it. He’s probably in his 70s now , I haven’t seen him drive the Mk5 for years. Will go and see him over the weekend, we live In Newcastle Emlyn, West Wales.
I felt your pain looking at your face whilst you drove it home, it's so stressful limping home in a poorly car! Looks as though with a bit of Volkswizard tlc it'll be right as rain in no time and I know you know the mk5's very well 😊
Those will be BBS VZ033 which where a VW Votex/Drivergear option in period. 18x8 ET44.
I had a 2007 in silver here in the states. Loved that car… sold it when I bought my 2019 GTI. I like that you always drive a manual transmission as well.
Great video Andrew, looking forward to the restoration on your mk5, and definitely start a collection of the anniversary golf all manual transmission 💯, this would be great I'd love to see that happen 👍🏻
Your wife must be very understanding. You just bought that lovely 66 plate GTI, and then you turn up in that!
My wife would be like, "You're dead!"
She is indeed very understanding and has been for the past 25 years but I do pull my weight in other areas, including the washing up 😥
@volkswizard wish my wife would let me do what I want with my car buying. Before I met her, I had a Caterham 7, a very unreliable TVR V8 350i and a mk1 Cupra R (the only car I ever bought new). Now I have 3 kids and only one car 😭
I've had mine for 10yrs, driven nearly 120,000 miles and now its clocked over 200,000. Seeing you drive with those characteristics, from experience I knew what those faults would more than likely be! Don't forget there is TWO thermostats. Many doesn't realise this and the culprit for temp issues is the In-line Thermostat. It sits below the throttle body and easily accessible from under the car. 4E0121113 Part number.
Very nice! I have the late 09’ DSG MK5 GTI 5 door in black. Which is at 83k and it’s in very nice condition! Currently getting a new CV joint today. Will be interested to see your plans with the ED30.
Nice! 09 is late. Cv boots are so common, I guess the joints get damaged when the boot is open and letting in rubbish. Oh well, could be worse and otherwise tough 👍👍
This’ll be a great series on restoring an ED30, looking forward to it. The number plate on it is a nice addition, too.
Brings back great memories of when I had a new fully loaded GTI Edition 30 which I bought without seeing the spec. I can’t wait to see the restoration.
They were bargains new!
Nice project car. Your red Ed30 a few years back in the days of VW Motoring magazine had me following it (and you). I've still got my 07 Candy White Ed30 (3dr Manual) which this weekend comes up to 16 years...I still remember ordering it from the dealer. And yes you're correct Ed30 'Pescara' wheels were et51 and 7.5 wide...which were not great for getting chunky brakes behind..
13 years ago I was in the market for a mk5 gti but irish prices were 4-€5000 more than an equivalent fr leon (08 197bhp) never regretted it 👍 have you ever done a b2b review on one compared to a gti?,,,, great content 👌
Considered one of these but went for a R32 (Mk5) as I was coming from a Mk4 1.8T. Would like one of these one day.
R32 is a good car but it feels a bit slow these days while a remap to one of these brings modern day levels of performance for peanuts. R32 sounds better though and looks great 👌
@@volkswizard yeah it’s deffo slow for the engine size but the noise is so unique. Looking forward to following this car.
Just the right amount wrong with it for that kind of money and will be a keeper once you've completed it with that mileage. When you come to that drivers side scab on the rear sill/wheel arch I hope it's not like my 06 4Motion where it's got in the folded edge at the bottom of the arch and will need cutting out, but look forward to following this one! Great content!
Nice mate was looking at editon 30s myself the other day. Have a regular mk5 gti atm - was debating whether or not to do a ko4 swap or just buy an edition 30 instead… subbed for the series !
Thanks! In my professional opinion buy the Edition 30 as it won’t depreciate and you’ll be investing in a classic every time you spend on it. Modify a normal one and all that cash will be wasted and may even devalue the car. Just my opinion though 👍👍
Thanks for sub🖤
@@volkswizard yeah these are the things I’ve been contemplating… probably cheaper to get a second hand ko4 swap done but like you say the money is going no where.
I had 3 standard non ed30s you will always lust after the ed30/Pirelli edition
Sorry, someone’s probably already said this, but the numberplate: Model Year 07 Mark 5 - I wonder who owned this previously? Demo/VW/enthusiast?
Yes they have mentioned it before but it’s interesting to gauge how many people work it out. First owner had it until 2020 so it was since then, IIRC last owner put it on. He wanted extra for it, but when negotiating I wasn’t really that bothered but quite like it now
Love the Mk5....drove them for ten years..loved them..recently bought a mk6gti and have to say I've grown to love it....better than the 7 imo
5 is really a 6 and yes I can see appeal of a 6, the 7 is good but the 6 was probably the last proper Golf even though it was really just a Mk5 that was tweaked to cost less to manufacture
@@volkswizardwhy was the 6 the ‘last proper golf’?
Great price for that mileage. Similar low mileage ones from Germany and you're looking at 10k euro+
Looking forward to this one! My old ed30 was one of my favourites, great cars.
Would love to see a black 25th anni on the channel, guessing decent ones are hard to come by these days though 🤔
Thanks. 25th not as hard to find as a 20th. Love the looks of black 3dr Mk4 Anni 👌
I can't wait to see how this MK5 GTI ED:30 project goes...Really glad to see another vid like this....
The Edition 30 will be great content I'm biased tho. Mk5 was a sweet spot still looks classy today it will clean up a treat👌
Wish we got the Clubsport S or Edition 30 in Australia! Would absolutely own a Clubsport S.
Another cool car mate! I saw a silver Mk5 R32 this morning (I had a black one for 5 years) and it made me want a Mk5! Looking for a GTD estate if you know of one with DCC mate.
Silver Mk5 R32 is a stunner. DCC on a GTD Estate?! Unicorn but you never know so keep looking, I doubt I'll find one but if I do I'll let you know.
Great video you got a steal there with that low mileage are you keeping it ? how come the Audi A3 is having a second came belt and water pump with such low mileage do you know something we don’t lol is it a precaution we should be taking ? Keep the videos coming 👏 don’t forget to change the cam follower and check the cam belt and the chain tensioners as the engine has a belt and a chain as l learnt after an expensive bill 😢👍🏽 also yeah start a collection of golf GTi that be nice as in the future it will be worth lot a money in the future.
Thanks Jernaine! Yes the car is staying for the forseeable future. I don't know where you are but cambelts are due every 5 years regardless of mileage here in the UK. Cambelt isn't due just yet on the GTI as it was changed under 5 years ago (same rule for pretty much every car). OK I'll start looking for a Mk4 next I think, I always tell people to not be too fussy about colour when looking for a good example of an older car but I'm going to have to ignore my own advice this time 🖤
Hi
Fantastic
I had a new one same spec but in red
I put genuine tinted glass in it aswell as it had standard glass
Absolutely loved it
So much better than the standard gti of its time
Keep up the good work
Tim
Thanks Tim, and love to hear about peoples’ old cars👏🏻
One of my favourite editions of the VW Golf, enough said.
I know you’re an expert but from bitter experience it’s worth checking behind the rear wheel arch liners for the sill ends.. the black plastic flap has two drain holes that block with compost….
Took my mk5 gti on a track one of the best handling cars ever so amazing
It’s cool, not a lot has moved on with Mk7, until mk8 a GTI had same 230 PS. And it still has basically the same chassis as mk5. All mk5 misses is a clever diff
@@volkswizardgoes to show the mk5 was ahead of its time not just in the chassis but engine and dsg too
I've never used a laptop in the open air in the rain before. I can't imagine that would be safe for long.
When you are filming you have to ignore things like that to get the job done
Do you think a edition will be obtainable still in 1-2 years time or get a 7.5 by then ?
Not removing the plastic cover of the motor and inspecting the motor from every angle...... Makes us believe you know only VWs from looks..... And ugly rims. Yes, this IS criticism....
You may be interested in that but most people won’t be. You could criticise me for not showing the underneath of it too. It’s important to keep videos concise and punchy and also got to save stuff for later videos. My pedigree with VWs speaks for itself in past videos so criticising how much I know VWs from this one video just makes you look a bit silly 🤷
These mk5 gti’s still look great!
Can not argue with that! Black 3 door helps I think 😍
Great video. Notice it has the highline clocks. You could easily add the steering wheel buttons i reckon this would be a good cheap upgrade.
Thank you for this first video on Project Ed30. I will enjoy all the coming videos on this car - makes me miss my mk5 I had 😢.
Not too late to get another Darren but with a 7.5 PP why would you really? 🤔
@@volkswizard I should have kept it (9.5 years I had her) i have been looking at mk5 and mk6 inc ed35…… the mk7.5pp is something special
Still looks a nice car fair play, I remember almost buying the ed35 , just couldn't afford it at the time and put my money into my home instead... look forward to seeing its revival on the channel
Property always a better bet :)
looks like you've got your work cut out there!
Well it's all good content and more worthwhile doing all the work when it's such a low miler
The interior looks nice as the soft touch plastics have a tendency to wear. It's funny to me that you have to check for rust as I have never seen rust on even a MKIV Golf here in Australia.
The biggest issue is the cost of timing belts and water pumps it really makes it an expensive used proposition even using an independent shop.
Good point re interior, the drivers door pull by electric window switches often gets trashed but this one is mint. It had 1 doctor owner until 2021 so maybe he didn't wear a ring and was pretty careful. Do your roads get salted? Here in the winter the roads are covered in salt which is very corrosive. It dries to a dust which is OK but time it badly and be on the road when the salt is rained on and you get this hideous corrosive solution that gets everywhere. Not helped by VW sticking a foam pad in front wings of Mk4 and 5 that soaks it all up and causes the wings to rust.
Cambelt change and water pump every 5 years is a drag for sure, luckily I can DIY and on this later Mk5 with a 2 piece cambelt cover it's not that difficult.
@@volkswizard No Snow=No Salt 😁
Great Video Andrew.. a Black Anniversary Editon collection would be amazing.
Front wings look a slightly different shade of black
I was expecting that but couldn’t see in that light and dirty but will be checking carefully when clean 👍
Got the same problem with my gti ed30 with the thermastat, as per my old ones if it doesnt sit at 90 and drops below its normally the thermastat
£22 delivered from KMS on eBay, OE quality Mahle and correct 80 degrees one for the 30👍
Excellent! One of my all time favourite GTI's Really looking forward to part 2!
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Had a lovely 3 door black Gti with bbs ch slammed back in the day was a good car
The G28 sensor is notorious for failing
I've not seen it on a Mk5 but have done a few on older cars, it usually pisses the owner off so much they decide to sell the car as garage used to find it hard to diagnose as they didn't have basic diagnostics 15 years ago. Got some good cheap cars because of G28 - unlike this one they weren't cheap because the labour to replace is massive as they were a lot easier on on older cars (B5 Passat and Mk4 Golf)
Great video as always , I had the same issue on my 20V anniversary golf and it was a scary journey home to say the least!
Ah! I thought the moss on the front bumper was coolant! Going to be an interesting project, yes start a collection. The one that got away for me was a Black Pirelli Edition in 2015 ☹️
Subbed! I've got a pirelli edition and love it...although I've got a baby on the way so unfortunately might have to let it go for a wagon. Anyone else comfortably driving around in a golf with a small family???
Map sensor 2 needs changing…I think
Had a mk 5 for ages and even with cutting back the water holding underfelt on the front wings, they still went. So yh, I'd assume they've been done....which saves you doing it! Black is easiest to match as well.
It’s a pain isn’t it. This car lived in Scotland for most of its life but Glasgow rather than Highlands so hopefully avoided the worst of the weather. Have seen underneath and it’s good but wings clearly had it early on. Can’t wait to wash it and see colour match. Maybe bonnet was painted. Match to doors could be interesting if not blended though as you say black is not the worst colour
@@volkswizard I'm in Scotland...and at the seaside. Salt everywhere. I slap waxoil on every couple of years and hope for the best. My 08 passat r36 is starting to bubble on front wings. Luckily they are bolt-on. And it's black...
Good luck with project. Looking forward to watching.
Great content! my favourite of the golf's the 30s
Glad you enjoyed it Ryan, there will be more where that came from :)
I still have a soft spot for an Edition 30. I think if I was looking for a track car it would be one of these I looked at.
7 seasons of spannering in the VW Racing Cup paddock I never saw a Powertrain failure on the Ed30. Most were mapped to around 260-280bhp. On one occasion one of the cars I was looking after the driver found 2nd instead of 4th and buzzed the engine to over 9k RPM only for the clutch to fail. New clutch and its was fine. Amazing really.
@@danphipps7011 that’s brilliant 👌🏼 I knew they where good but didn’t realise they where this good
i bought my mk5 golf 2.0 SDI 06 plate for a grand and i thought mine was pretty clean but your golf gti is mint especially for the year.
This makes me love my Ed35 even more now… ❤
Great video. I had an edition 30 too in black, sadly it was written off when a 4x4 hit it at speed. Would love another one. Watching with interest. Good luck with sorting out the problems.
Amazing privite plate too!! Didn't these come with Xenons?
Not in the Uk, one of the many options 👍
@@volkswizard arhh good to know. I have always fancied an Ed30 look forward to seeing your progress on this.
MY O7 MK V, great number plate!
I hated it at first, I mean Roman numerals!! But I hate it less now though would still sell it
@@volkswizard What have the Romans ever done for us? I’m partial to a vanity plate though, so slightly biased. Someone would definitely buy it I’m sure.
Looks a lovely car, nice find, I’m seeing a lot of my 5 gti’s falling into the hands of those that drive them into the ground. Looking forward to seeing how you return this one to its former glory. I had to replace the crank sensor on an old tt we had, the bolt securing it snapped in the block and it was a royal pain to strip the front end to get a drill in - hope you don’t have the same issue.
Thanks Rob and thanks for that warning, I can totally see how that bolt could snap so I will treat it with respect when I get the spanner on it. It's a big enough job on Mk5 without stripping the front end off 😯
I called vw a few years ago for the price on a replacement gear gaiter on my old mk5 gti and they told me £326 I said if that’s the price for the standard mk5 gti what’s the price for the edition 30’s 😮
Cam follower
One for the to-do-list 👍
Was nice to watch a car review talking about mileage without a car vertical plug 😂👍🏻
I could do with the cash so one day I might have to. Car Vertical provide some very interesting info and have caught a lot of dealers out which is good for the consumer. Never used it but probably ought to
@@volkswizard good to know, I’ve wanted to use it on this clubsport (HW17HPU) that’s been on auto trader for months for 18k, there must be a reason 🤷🏼♂️ ironically I’m looking to upgrade from my A38v tdi to one, just can’t justify the 25k for a decent one, I’d be interested to know of any you may have in stock in the future 👍🏻
Why is the thermostat faulty?
Can you leave the engine idle at standstill for 20mins and see if it reaches >90C.
The thermostat is faulty because it's not fully closing and therefore the radiator circuit is always open. Yes it will get to 90 at idle due to lack of air flow but as soon as you start driving it drops down which means the car is always running on choke - thermostat should only open at 80 degrees. In the past thermostats used to stick shut when they failed but thankfully VWG is now engineering them to be fail safe and stick open. You just have to read the signs and get it sorted. It's hard to fit but a relatively cheap part.
@@volkswizard oh I see now. Thanks for explaining. I will be watching the future episode on this car. I’ve had my ed30 for 9 years. I noticed the 70C temp in the last cold snap and was told it’s just cos it’s cold. You have now changed my mind back to a faulty stat. Thanks again
Mk5 and eml on is a tale as old as time
I absolutely loved my tornado red edition 30. Stage one map was perfect for an all round car
I had a similar experience being sold a car from a carsales place in badshot lea recently. Turns out the cutch is duff and the brakes were dangerous,injector leak and turbo . Dodgy people should be shut down.
This is the year you buy all the anniversary cars. A good start so far!
Thanks Josh, weirdly looking forward to a black mk4 1.8T Anni, very good looking for a mk4 but the seats give me back ache 🤕
Super excited for this project as i own an MK5 GTI (k04 converted by now) meself. Here's a free tip : regardless of how they might appear, do both the left and right engine mounts and thank me later.
Thanks for the tip, we used to replace mounts on the older Golfs all the time not so much on Mk5 and they can't last forever so makes sense a refresh will make car drive better - engine mounts are often overlooked but must have a key part in the way the car feels front shifting, to acceleration to refinement.
@@volkswizard Yep, it's in fact quite amazing how much difference these can make, especially in terms of cabinet noises and vibrations. I mean the youngest MK5's are ~14 and the oldest ~19 year old cars. On such ages you really should replace engine mounts just for the sake of it. I in fact had a conversation with an MK7 (R, manual) enthusiast once and he said that he replaced his engine mounts when his car was just 4 years old and that even there it made a noticable difference in terms of refinement on the car.
Always liked the Ed30. Easily the best looking version of the Mk5.
It’s a shame they’re so prone to crusty arches.
Yess! I just bought a mk5 gti too! Great stuff
Nice one!
Can't go wrong collecting black manual three door golfs.
Right, I’m on it then Charlie 👍👍
Nice car certainly. All black anniversary models yes
Mk3 and mk4 also nice
The hunt begins 🖤
I also had the engine speed sensor on mine. Was ok when poodling but when flooring it it would splutter
Edition 35 for the win!
Mk5's had a recall for the front wings as they rusted at the top of the Arch. So that would explain why it has newer wings. Had mine done on my Mk5 GTI.
It wasn’t a recall, for the first 10 years it was done under warranty no quibbles of customer complained. For years 11 and 12 Vw only funded of cost of you had a good history of being exploited by your local main dealer when it came to servicing and repairs. If you sensibly used a specialist then you were on your own even though car came with a 12 not 10 year warranty - typical behaviour of VW post dieselgate making their customers suffer for their devious behaviour. Also if VW had replaced wings they’d be VW stamped which these aren’t. No bad thing as VW don’t blend paint into door so colour match rarely very good.
@volkswizard sorry didn't mean a recall as such. What you described is right from memory. Looking forward to seeing the progress on this. I currently have a Manual 3 door Golf R Mk7 and still fancy a project gti to work on.
That Limited Edition 240 GTI is out there somewhere Andrew. Rarest of the Rare!
Never heard of that slakka, tell me more !
Cracking buy, I paid 700 less for a standard mk5 gti with double the miles 🤣, has all optional extras though and in pretty good knick so thats why I took the gamble on the mileage.
Hi Andrew. That's going to be an interesting project. Is it a coincidence that the March 23 calendar picture is a black Mk 5? Just saying😊
Total coincidence Tony! Don’t know I’m doing a week ahead so planning that back in November would have been impossible. However some subconscious want factor led to this conclusion and that pic no doubt
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Love the Mk5 Golfgbti content really looking forward to you breathing a bit of life back into this one ..
Those wheels are the cheapo BBS VZ033
Any significance difference to the Pescaras apart from offset aside from missing the OEM tax?
@@volkswizard oh I've been out of the wheel game for 10 years. I seem to remember BBS launched them in response to all the cheap CH reps. They kind of did a rep of their own wheel. They're 8J rather than 7.5J and unlike a proper CH they're gravity cast, rather than pressure cast.
The nicest of the OEM CH style wheels was CH028 from B7 Audis.
Although gravity cast rather than low pressure cast, they'll barely be any heavier I think - within a pound of a CH029 / CH024.
Would be awesome to see a collection of every generation black 3 door anniversary cars!
Great video Andrew looking forward to the renovation
Thanks Rob!
Isn’t the headlight switch from a mk6?
Hoovie you've done something different with your hair? Suits you though looking really well!
Nice golf too 🙂
I LOVE THIS CAR
Cool!
Just what UA-cam needs. Another 'I bought the cheapest Mk5 Golf GTi' video
I think this is different to all that stuff because it’s the cheapest low miler, not just ‘the cheapest’plus it’s an Edition 30 plus it’s an inaugural episode of a series by a specialist
Love the Mk 5 great project car looking forward to the journey ahead👍
Thanks Jay👍