14th century candle holder challenge from Daniel Moss

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  • This 14th century candle holder challenge comes from Daniel Moss. The goal was to complete the piece in under 20 minutes. If you're interested in participating check out Dan's video for details • How to make this epic ...
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  • @bentoombs
    @bentoombs 3 роки тому +26

    How dare that mean Mr. Moss make old people work hard😜 always fun to watching someone good at their craft work. Thank you John

    • @Volundur9567
      @Volundur9567 3 роки тому +5

      He is not old, he is seasoned.

  • @jamessell4490
    @jamessell4490 3 роки тому +30

    Hey round is a shape. Lots of us are round.

    • @treytaylor2430
      @treytaylor2430 3 роки тому +2

      Hahaha. Ive tried that one before, I was told be in shape, not a shape.

    • @Volundur9567
      @Volundur9567 3 роки тому +1

      I feel that.

  • @warrenclay7460
    @warrenclay7460 3 роки тому +36

    John, I actually like the format for these simple types of forgings. Seeing everything was nice. I like better your normal explanations and the videos you edit but I understand the time commitment. If you can incorporate more video of forging and cut down on your computer time, I think this would be a reasonable compromise. As I've said in the past, I really enjoy what you are teaching. Thanks

  • @jjppres
    @jjppres 3 роки тому +10

    My money was on you John. We're the same age and us old timers gotta stick together. Well done! Great job!

  • @KarlBunker
    @KarlBunker 3 роки тому +9

    This was fun, and I like the design of the candle holder. I was watching this as I ate lunch, and I found myself eating faster and faster as the timer got closer to 20 minutes. 😄

  • @ChristCenteredIronworks
    @ChristCenteredIronworks 3 роки тому +4

    Great go of it john! Really enjoyed this presentation format reminds me of when I first started into blacksmithing and went to monthly meetings at sofa (southern Ohio forge and anvil)

  • @wayneheitz8390
    @wayneheitz8390 3 роки тому +5

    Well done sir. No way I could do that and film at the same time. I did the challenge at right at 19 minutes. Hats off to you good sir.

  • @drakemoreland6684
    @drakemoreland6684 3 роки тому +3

    him-"I'm a little old and out of shape" also him - has absolutely shredded blacksmith arms lol

  • @ethanphillips8637
    @ethanphillips8637 3 роки тому +1

    Always nice to watch a skilled craftsman at his trade.

  • @danielmoss2089
    @danielmoss2089 3 роки тому +6

    Amazing job John what a great time. I think you did an excellent job. Can't wait to see it.

    • @danielmoss2089
      @danielmoss2089 3 роки тому +3

      Also thank you sooooo much for attempting the channel.

    • @BlackBearForge
      @BlackBearForge  3 роки тому +3

      It was fun. Do you have any information on what the spike may have been used for?

    • @danielmoss2089
      @danielmoss2089 3 роки тому +5

      @@BlackBearForge I guessed what you said but I'll find out what I can.
      Also you did everything spot on John. If you had have been at the college something might have been said about the flux but after that it was an epic job. Much faster than my entire. Well done sir.

    • @aliceharvey1226
      @aliceharvey1226 3 роки тому +3

      It looks good from here, nice to see it done completely in real time. Hmmm, `Now I’m watching to see what Roy comes up with,

    • @danielmoss2089
      @danielmoss2089 3 роки тому +3

      @@aliceharvey1226 he said he would try. We will see. John did a Stella job.

  • @jimtalbot3989
    @jimtalbot3989 3 роки тому +7

    Good to see a 'behind the scenes' type video once in a while. Gives a more natural view of the work process, other than the time aspect of course. But obviously I still prefer the tutorals. Its also great to see you back on the black bear channel, but I certainly didn't mind the break, there's alot of back videos to catch up on, and I've been reading the online Blacksmiths Journals as well. Thanks John!

  • @wesleymccravy901
    @wesleymccravy901 3 роки тому +1

    I am gonna say that was close enough. Better than I could have done in 20 minutes.

  • @brittinghammerforge9441
    @brittinghammerforge9441 3 роки тому +1

    You were wire brushing at 20. Your good. I was rooting for ya old man.

  • @Eaves1979
    @Eaves1979 3 роки тому +3

    Brilliant work you beat fans time and he did not get it stuck in the tongs

  • @pjamestx
    @pjamestx 3 роки тому +7

    So glad you decided to do this! I always appreciate it when the blacksmithing channels I like support each other (which they do all the time!), and also I'm trying to make a candlestick holder to go with the snuffer I recently made, so this is exactly the kind of project I'm looking for. Fantastic!

  • @samh7608
    @samh7608 3 роки тому +1

    I love the old school editing and uncut. Reminds me of watching tv when I was young.

  • @marcerivest6204
    @marcerivest6204 3 роки тому

    The old Bear still has it,l have been watching Dan for maybe 2years or so. Great job.

  • @dalekidd420
    @dalekidd420 3 роки тому +6

    That clock running really does change the game, doesn't it? That's why we see Master Bladesmiths fall apart on Forged In Fire so frequently... they go from careful and detail-oriented to rushed and stressed, and they fail spectacularly.

    • @billwoehl3865
      @billwoehl3865 3 роки тому +1

      Usually by skipping important steps like normalize before hardening or not hardening at the right temp.

  • @Jay-kk2rd
    @Jay-kk2rd 2 роки тому +1

    John, I really enjoyed this video, mostly because it was unedited and gave us a chance to see you work real time. You did a great job!

  • @treytaylor2430
    @treytaylor2430 3 роки тому +2

    As a hobby smith, that was absolutely amazing to watch, like watching a Peter Ross video. I'm glad you showed how to set it up at the end, I was trying to figure why it looked the way it did and why it had some of the elements it did. Again, wonderful to see.

  • @schmiedemesser_Jasmine
    @schmiedemesser_Jasmine 3 роки тому +11

    Sir, your forging was amazing! It is a joy to watch you make something like that candle holder so fast and precise! Really a work of art! Thank you for sharing that video! You are one of my favorite channels here on UA-cam and I hope to be half as good as you are... sometime in the future.

  • @MarkKelly1307
    @MarkKelly1307 3 роки тому +3

    John, good show!! I have learned so much from your channel. I appreciate your transparency and teacher’s heart. I am new to this craft, only a month or so in. I continually come back to your videos for guidance. Cheers, Mark

  • @humancattoy7767
    @humancattoy7767 3 роки тому +3

    This brings a smile to my face. My grandfather was an amateur blacksmith in his youth.

  • @NeilGraham.I.M.F
    @NeilGraham.I.M.F 3 роки тому +2

    I liked the uncut get it done challenge. Good run at the challange

  • @willlothridge3197
    @willlothridge3197 3 роки тому +1

    Once I get home from active duty orders I’m going to give this challenge a try. Kinda miss the UA-cam blacksmith challenges.

  • @michaeledwards7604
    @michaeledwards7604 3 роки тому +1

    Really nice John. Its adds a different dimension watching you work under pressure. I thought I was the only one that miss placed tools and dropped the work item on the floor.
    As I watch your excellent video's I find my constantly drawn to the other tools you have on the walls and hanging up around your work shop, I have a long way to go just in to go just in tool making alone. There's an adage here in Aus. 'he who has the most when he dies wins!!!' this goes for any hobby, sport or pastime.
    Love your work.

  • @jeffgrier8488
    @jeffgrier8488 3 роки тому +2

    I would say that candle holder turned out really well, especially in 20 minutes!

  • @nimikins
    @nimikins 3 роки тому +1

    John you did it faster than Dan did and I’m not sure we even agree when you were done. Excellent job nevertheless!

  • @mandolinman2006
    @mandolinman2006 3 роки тому +3

    You know, if your fire was a little hotter when you first started, it seemed to take a little while to see flames when the blower kicked on, you would've made it.
    Oh, I tried those bagels you recommended. They really are good.

  • @jalopywrench
    @jalopywrench 3 роки тому +1

    I watch a lot of your videos, almost nightly, and I enjoy your videos more than the rest. You have a great way of describing your work without being condescending or over explaining every detail. I have an old horseshoe forge and a 105# Haybud anvil. A few hammers and one pair of tongs. I like how you show things I can learn from as I go. Thank you for your great videos.

  • @totherarf
    @totherarf 3 роки тому +1

    Nice to see a real forging project!
    When I say real, I mean no setting up camera shots and angles, getting the script right .... just forging! Nicely done too!

  • @thijs3514
    @thijs3514 3 роки тому +4

    Well done John!! I also liked this style of video, no cuts, all action, we got to see the way you work. Very nice!

  • @1917Enfield
    @1917Enfield 3 роки тому +1

    Heck John, if you take into account the 15 seconds it took to get it out of the tongs and the 20 seconds for the touchmark, you would have another 35 seconds to work. So in my judgement, you did it in 19 min, 30 seconds.
    Well done!

  • @charminghollowforge1109
    @charminghollowforge1109 3 роки тому +2

    Well done John you and Dan have set the bar high

  • @forgelefemme
    @forgelefemme 3 роки тому

    Daniel is such a doll. What a darling challenge!

  • @johnjude2685
    @johnjude2685 3 роки тому +1

    Mr Moss's steel probably sold.in metrics and his measurements might be easier to fit than the difference size USA, Also the video taping must be a challenge.
    Good American effortr.Mr.John Switzer
    I'm proud to see this

  • @michaelhayes1678
    @michaelhayes1678 3 роки тому +1

    Well done. Very Courageous to accept the challenge, and a beautiful piece of work.

  • @marcogallazzi9049
    @marcogallazzi9049 3 роки тому +2

    Interesting challenge, shows the normal forging process without the video editing. Thanks for sharing it with us 👍🏼

  • @streetfabz687
    @streetfabz687 3 роки тому +3

    Love the video. Round is more aerodynamic than square. Round is faster down hill than square. I think you and I both win there. I am going to see if I have stock in the shop to try it. I don't think I can do 20 minutes, but I will try.

  • @jeremiahjohnson1325
    @jeremiahjohnson1325 3 роки тому +12

    The sounds are all part of the process love to hear them all

  • @none4174
    @none4174 3 роки тому +4

    Cool

  • @eliprice138
    @eliprice138 3 роки тому +1

    Gettin on it !!! Yah hooo !! I like to see this , gives most of us a good perspective of what it takes to do this ! Thanks John

  • @heatherrockwell9224
    @heatherrockwell9224 3 роки тому +2

    I really enjoyed watching this. I like that it shows that you do some of the same stuff I do. Drop stuff etc. Some days it seems like I get my exercise from picking up all the things I drop. But I never give up. I just finished my Black Bear Forge Binge watch! I really like the way you teach. Thanks for all you do.

    • @jimmysblacksmithing462
      @jimmysblacksmithing462 3 роки тому

      It's funny about dropping things. We all do or don't we? And it seems as though it's always if there's a slight hurry 😳🤣

  • @picklesnoutpenobscott3165
    @picklesnoutpenobscott3165 3 роки тому +2

    I loved this! Real is real, and great to see the nits and grits. Two great videos from some of my favorite teachers.

  • @SchysCraftCo.
    @SchysCraftCo. 3 роки тому +2

    Nice job turned out very well there. Keep up the great craftsmanship and hard work my friend. Forge on God bless.

  • @patrickroy414
    @patrickroy414 3 роки тому +1

    John, since I discovered you on UA-cam I have very much enjoyed your videos and have tried out some of the projects you have demonstrated. Most recently (yesterday) I tried out the 14th centur candle holder. I didn't have the 1/4 x 1 x 4 flat stock so I calculated that I could procuce this using other stock on hand. I used 1/2" square stock and used my treadle hammer for a lot of the forging. Actually to make handling easier, I started with and 8" piece of stock and drew out the smaller section to the point that I could cut the two apart and handle the individual pieces conveniently. Both turned out well enough that critical artist wife was impressed with my work. I did not time myself, nor did I video the process
    I have recently used the same technique to produce some botttle openers that I found here as well. Thanks for the fine demonstrations.

  • @mattmoore1311
    @mattmoore1311 3 роки тому +3

    5:30 "Stuck in the tongs! That sort of thing happens to me anytime I'm demonstrating.

  • @olddawgdreaming5715
    @olddawgdreaming5715 3 роки тому +1

    Thanks for sharing with John, I like slow and steady much better 🤗👍👍👏🏻👏🏻

  • @RRINTHESHOP
    @RRINTHESHOP 3 роки тому +2

    Well done no matter what. Enjoyed.

  • @moreybandel5560
    @moreybandel5560 3 роки тому +1

    I was cheering for ya! Go John go! Seriously, I thought you did very good for the time allotted. Thanks for the Great video!

  • @40jmr
    @40jmr 3 роки тому +2

    Just got in two of your leaf finial holdfasts in, they are a great addition to my woodworking arsenal. Thank you!

  • @Larks01
    @Larks01 3 роки тому +1

    I really enjoyed watching you undertake Dan's challenge John and am very glad that you kept the video of it running on normal time, it was good to see the full process and to watch you work. And well done by the way, I was never in doubt but it looked like you even surprised yourself with the time - aside from the touch mark time, that one drop and the missing ruler must have lost you at least 30 seconds......:-)

  • @ValhallaIronworks
    @ValhallaIronworks 3 роки тому +3

    Awesome effort, John! I'm hoping to make my attempt for Dan this week!

  • @prestonfunkhouser1301
    @prestonfunkhouser1301 3 роки тому +1

    That was fun to watch. You do phenomenal work and are a great teacher. Thank you for sharing.

  • @chrisheinenoutdoors8880
    @chrisheinenoutdoors8880 3 роки тому +3

    Man I would love to see more call out videos. I loved every second of this!

  • @Rgreenacres
    @Rgreenacres 3 роки тому

    Just for the record, I love the sound of the forge.

  • @SavageSalvageSmithing
    @SavageSalvageSmithing 3 роки тому +3

    Considering how you took time to explain what you were doing at points, I would say that you got it under 20 minutes. Going to get propane today for some forging. Working on tent spikes as suggested.

  • @FornaxusCrucible
    @FornaxusCrucible 3 роки тому +2

    Well done, John! Doing anything at-speed is super challenging, and so many things can go wrong. You pulled it off!

  • @adampablodayc
    @adampablodayc 3 роки тому +1

    Daniel is a brilliant chap,thanks John for accepting and sharing this challenge.

  • @bawrytr
    @bawrytr 2 роки тому +1

    Valliant effort - the guy at Christ Centered Ironworks didn't get it done either, and he started with the piece hot, so an extra couple of minutes.

  • @billssmithy7352
    @billssmithy7352 3 роки тому +1

    Watched him first, now you. I might make one just to make it. I'm too old and lazy to try (or want to try) to do it in 20 minutes. Maybe a little now, a little later, until I'm done.

  • @thedixonway
    @thedixonway 3 роки тому +1

    Fantastic job John. I enjoyed this very much and it's good to see you doing these types of things. Take care and thanks again.

  • @ericcartrette6118
    @ericcartrette6118 3 роки тому +2

    Haha, I tried this yesterday. Thirty minutes into my practice run, I realized I didn't have anything that was the right diameter to use for a drift. So I spent the rest of y time making one. I'll have to give it a shot again when the weather clears and I can get back to the forge. Great job of yours! It looks really good.

  • @alexandertrotsky1506
    @alexandertrotsky1506 3 роки тому

    Some of us are cheering when you mentioned it.

  • @MrFuckthegravity
    @MrFuckthegravity 3 роки тому +2

    Very interesting.
    Happy to see the good spirit between the blacksmiths!
    To be continue. Who and what's the next?
    Thank u,
    Be safe🙏,
    Wear your 🤓.

  • @joegassen8756
    @joegassen8756 3 роки тому +1

    Awesome job as usual. Inspires the rest of us.

  • @stankrieger3598
    @stankrieger3598 Рік тому

    The best part of this, you made me fell good on just how much time it takes me on a project, I am by no means as fast but I do bring in a respectful time frame.. but darn the old age.wish I had started a few years ago. Haha (MANNY YEARS) merry Christmas to all that may read this. God's speed everyone
    Stan

  • @frankgaletzka8477
    @frankgaletzka8477 3 роки тому +3

    Hello John
    What a great challange .
    You have Made it in Time and it looks very good .
    So all is right and well
    I like this Form of Video very much
    It Shows everything how you forge how you prepare your tooling the whole process .
    Thank you very much
    Take care and good bless
    Yours Frank

  • @reigninoel
    @reigninoel 3 роки тому +1

    I do agree that the time spent to put on your touchmark shouldn't "count", unless it was specified in the challenge that the piece must be touchmarked(and based on how you said that I kind of assume it was not). I say "mission accomplished".

  • @southron1861
    @southron1861 3 роки тому

    Great little project. Reminds me of using my bayonet as a candle holder on reenactment campaigns. Enjoyed watching 👍🏻

  • @mannaz3322
    @mannaz3322 3 роки тому +3

    What an amazing job you' ve done. Thumbs up from Germany. Really excellent.

  • @gurvinderkau1e5w18
    @gurvinderkau1e5w18 3 роки тому +1

    Candle holder came out cool.Nice design. Great video 👍👍🔥🔥

  • @Kleinschmiede
    @Kleinschmiede 3 роки тому +1

    Wow! Great job, John! It took me (as "one of the younger guys") 30 minutes to the half of it. And I produced scrap :-) I think, I've got to train a little bit more on Dans candlestick holder. I'm looking forward to your next video! Michael :-)

  • @rbaker1423
    @rbaker1423 3 роки тому

    That was fun! You should do some of this more often. Maybe not with the clock running, but it's fun to watch a good smith just working efficiently at speed; to see how he moves and performs various operations with minimal effort. That is something that is lost when doing step by step instructional demos, yet there is a ton of important instructional content there too. Just enough commentary to say what is happening, but without breaking up the action.

  • @Redneckemtb
    @Redneckemtb 3 роки тому

    Wow! I never realized how much flame actually goes up your flew.

  • @hughcupples1279
    @hughcupples1279 3 роки тому +1

    Great video, great challenge... I’m finding it very rewarding watching the different methods and styles people have to accomplish the same exact goal.. very interesting and enjoyable to watch

    • @hughcupples1279
      @hughcupples1279 3 роки тому

      Two people would come to mind would be incredible additions to this challenge, Joey van der steeg and Brian brazeal, would be interesting to watch the hammer styles and approach to the project

  • @dadegroot
    @dadegroot 3 роки тому +1

    Nicely done. I was looking forward to this one having seen Dan's original video.
    Now that I've almost finished a commission I'm working on, I *might* have a crack at this, maybe.

  • @dragonstonegemironworkscra4740
    @dragonstonegemironworkscra4740 3 роки тому

    Mr John that was a very good watch and a very worthy entry in the challange. Stuck in the tongs lost a pretty good but of time and gave need of another heat as I see it. Touch mark was just at 10 seconds so not a real issues.
    Cudos for not starting over when you got stuck in the tongs n lost time. Marks of a real blacksmith and class act creator!
    🙏 Blessed day and well wishes Sir
    Crawford out 🔥⚒️🧙🏼‍♂️

    • @BlackBearForge
      @BlackBearForge  3 роки тому +1

      No starting over allowed. Even though no one would know, I didn't want to cheat

  • @MrPinkfarts
    @MrPinkfarts 3 роки тому +1

    Love this type of video. Great fun.

  • @lonewolfforge7603
    @lonewolfforge7603 3 роки тому +1

    I saw the video from TMIB, where he was talking about this challenge. I think this camaraderie is awesome! I would love to participate but not until I do your previous challenges. Need to hone my skills to improve confidence..lol.

  • @yeagerxp
    @yeagerxp 3 роки тому

    Excellent work👍👍👍. Thanks for sharing. As far as the noises go I rather hear them as they are part of work being done than music

  • @stoneinthefield1
    @stoneinthefield1 3 роки тому

    I like the actual work flow videos.

  • @twistedironprojects8814
    @twistedironprojects8814 3 роки тому +1

    Thank you for all of the great work you do it really helps beginners like me get into the trade. Great challenge and video. im looking forward to trying this out.

  • @TheFlypress
    @TheFlypress 3 роки тому +2

    great effort. Nail biting but you made it..I see it as me in 10 yrs time (if I'm lucky :))

  • @lowellsewell3192
    @lowellsewell3192 3 роки тому

    Thank you!!

  • @kensmapleleafretirement
    @kensmapleleafretirement 3 роки тому

    That was great, John... Class act... Thanks...

  • @louislarose6613
    @louislarose6613 3 роки тому

    Great to get it so close to time !

  • @tomblasdell8589
    @tomblasdell8589 3 роки тому +1

    You did very good thank you for letting us earth you work buddy

  • @gilauth6791
    @gilauth6791 3 роки тому +2

    Your Guys are the best Way to go.

  • @johnnywoodbine9092
    @johnnywoodbine9092 3 роки тому

    I wish I had my forge built and running for a while now, I'd probably have joined in. Oh well, it'll be a good practice peice to get my eye (and shoulder!) back in the habit come April when I can get it all put together

  • @brendanesposito
    @brendanesposito 3 роки тому

    This challenge is very cool!

  • @williamsultana3848
    @williamsultana3848 3 роки тому

    You done well love the show

  • @curtisatnoblepursuitironwo5979
    @curtisatnoblepursuitironwo5979 3 роки тому

    👏 what a a show John.

  • @mtyson9004
    @mtyson9004 3 роки тому

    Nice work John! Thanks and God Bless you sir!

  • @olofjansson9356
    @olofjansson9356 3 роки тому

    While the socket provides better stability for a tall candle, the spike or "pricket" I believe is for placing and burning the candle stub which might otherwise be wasted in the socket. That said, it's a good idea to let the spike protrude above the socket enough to comfortably stick the stub on it. This allows it to be almost completely consumed. Being a lighting junkie, I had to try out this fun little project and then give it some practical testing. Despite Hollywood depictions, candles were an expensive commodity in early times and people sought to get the most out of them if they could afford them. Thanks for yet another great presentation!

  • @BrianDaleNeeley
    @BrianDaleNeeley 3 роки тому +1

    I think if you would have left your touch mark (and one other thing no one I've seen) out, you would have made it. I am excited to see how some of the others fare with this challenge.

  • @pauloalex
    @pauloalex 3 роки тому

    Thumbs up from Portugal

  • @dennyjudson2165
    @dennyjudson2165 3 роки тому

    Nice job!

  • @ibewsparky98
    @ibewsparky98 3 роки тому +2

    Great job bud

  • @DavidKirwanirl
    @DavidKirwanirl 2 роки тому +1

    Loved this ;D