Cutters and reiners make great dressage horses. I ride an appendix who is from a cutting line and he is competing at 4th and going PSG next year. The beauty of quarter horses is that they have incredible minds, unequaled willingness, and work ethics galore. I've ridden quarter horses my whole life and probably always will. Ask a quarter horse to do something and he'll ask you how many times you'd like that done. They are great.
I had a beautiful QH and I rode him to Prix St. George he had the best pirouettes ever ......(could have gone higher but he had Cushing's) I owned him for 23 years .... he was a fantastic horse ........ people always thought he was a warmblood but he was bred to be a cutting horse .......
I have a quarter horse bred for cutting. She is amazing, so light on her feet - everyone thinks she is a thoroughbred. I switched her to dressage after an injury.... and wanting us both to progress. I've had *so much crap* and nastiness from the other dressage people at the barn. It makes me sad - I support all disciplines and anyone doing right by their horse and learning and would never judge - and never saw this before getting into dressage. I wish there were more Jeremy's out there to promote learning and doing the best you can without judgment.
I had a QH that I rode at lower levels long ago, and I actually took lessons with Jeremy Steinburg with that horse, he was quite fond of how my guy went. : -) A QH might not wow the judge with the movement a WB has but they are usually so trainable that the movements can be very correct and still place very well.
I've often wondered why the Quarter Horse has been overlooked in these types of disciplines. First, I am the first to say knowledge regarding the ins and outs of Dressage is below average. However, it's obvious that athleticism, intelligence, and trainability in a horse is an absolute must! The Quarter Horse possesses all three. Their athleticism is beyond incredible. Additionally, appendix QH's contain Thoroughbreds. Am I just WAY off in my thinking? I would sincerely love both pro and con feedback.
HEMI Momma well, I'm not an expert, but i know a bit. Warmbloods, (specifically Dutch Warmbloods) have been bred for dressage years and constantly place in Grand Prix/Olympics. They are associated with dressage and show jumping for good reason. They naturally have large floaty trots and uphill, forward, canters. While QHs have all the qualities you listed, and those are vital, they often have slower jogs and very smooth( and not uphill) lopes. They are associated with Western sports, as they are the best overall bred for them. QHs are also smaller than most Warmbloods or even PREs which means less movment. The average comformation is very different too with Warmbloods built for maximum collection and extension. QHs tend to be small and rounder. QHs have a hard time to compete with Warmbloods at higher levels. And if you are going that high, you want a horse you know will place. Im no expert in QHs, dont really know much about them, but from a personal standpoint they aren't built very well for dressage. If you were to compare Valegro to Firewater Flit, the differences are pretty big.
As someone that has endured so much negativity from other dressage riders with warmbloods - I think sometimes you get bullied into believing you have to have a warmblood. Two other women at my barn (one has an Andalusian and another a mixed breed) have also endured this. It's so sad to me. I've been at Western barns and Hunter barns and no one was ever like this until I got to a dressage barn.
Hey Hannah. I think your comment provides lots of insight and makes a lot of sense. I've been toying with the idea of buying a friend's QH and training him for dressage. We would be competing at the lower levels, mostly hoping to increase both he (the horse) and I's knowledge of collection,lengthening, aids,etc. Do you think I'd be ok with working with this guy for these purposes? Would love an English rider's input:all my friends ride Western out here.
@@hannahc6049 I jump quarter horses and believe me they are totally capable for English sports and even recognized in them. The AQHA has are old horse show where they have Hunters and equitation over fences. Believe me these horses can be just as good as any warmblood.
@@quarterhorseprofection5613 Capable, yes. And the look of stock HUS/Eq over fences vs english hunters is quite similair if you compare two HUS bred horses from each world. Ultimately they are very different horses and that's a good thing. It means everyone can have a horse that matches them. Even the most english looking HUS stock horse (AQHA or APHA) will not match a standard dressage bred warmblood/Baroque horse. Different breeds with different goals. A stock horse can do a wonderful trot in place or maybe even piaffe bit they won't match a lipizzaner/KWPN when it comes to collection and the ability to move uphill. The flat knee desired and smooth lope in western pleasure/HUS is opposite from the uphill action seen in the sport/Baroque horses for instance.
That's a high Thoroughbred content appendix QH that moves more like a TB than a stock horse. Probably one of those bred for hunter under saddle, they like them with longer movements.
I had a foundation stock QH that looked just like this. Everyone thought he was TB or WB but nope. He excelled in dressage/eventing but sadly I didn't get into it until he was way into his later years so didn't get to do much with him.
she's not flexing the back of the horse's neck too much is she? I don't remember what it's called but the dressage enchanted me until I discovered that many people used excessive force to abusively flex the poor horse's neck. Is it really necessary to flex the horse's neck?
Cutters and reiners make great dressage horses. I ride an appendix who is from a cutting line and he is competing at 4th and going PSG next year. The beauty of quarter horses is that they have incredible minds, unequaled willingness, and work ethics galore. I've ridden quarter horses my whole life and probably always will. Ask a quarter horse to do something and he'll ask you how many times you'd like that done. They are great.
Thank you for your comment❣ Amazing telling of your journey with your wonderful Quarter Horse❤
I had a beautiful QH and I rode him to Prix St. George he had the best pirouettes ever ......(could have gone higher but he had Cushing's) I owned him for 23 years .... he was a fantastic horse ........ people always thought he was a warmblood but he was bred to be a cutting horse .......
Any chance you have video? The fans are asking for an example.
I have a quarter horse bred for cutting. She is amazing, so light on her feet - everyone thinks she is a thoroughbred. I switched her to dressage after an injury.... and wanting us both to progress. I've had *so much crap* and nastiness from the other dressage people at the barn. It makes me sad - I support all disciplines and anyone doing right by their horse and learning and would never judge - and never saw this before getting into dressage. I wish there were more Jeremy's out there to promote learning and doing the best you can without judgment.
I’ve always been a huge fan of nontraditional dressage breeds in dressage (eg, Fjord ponies, draft breeds, QHs)
I had a QH that I rode at lower levels long ago, and I actually took lessons with Jeremy Steinburg with that horse, he was quite fond of how my guy went. : -) A QH might not wow the judge with the movement a WB has but they are usually so trainable that the movements can be very correct and still place very well.
I've often wondered why the Quarter Horse has been overlooked in these types of disciplines. First, I am the first to say knowledge regarding the ins and outs of Dressage is below average. However, it's obvious that athleticism, intelligence, and trainability in a horse is an absolute must! The Quarter Horse possesses all three. Their athleticism is beyond incredible. Additionally, appendix QH's contain Thoroughbreds. Am I just WAY off in my thinking? I would sincerely love both pro and con feedback.
HEMI Momma well, I'm not an expert, but i know a bit. Warmbloods, (specifically Dutch Warmbloods) have been bred for dressage years and constantly place in Grand Prix/Olympics. They are associated with dressage and show jumping for good reason. They naturally have large floaty trots and uphill, forward, canters. While QHs have all the qualities you listed, and those are vital, they often have slower jogs and very smooth( and not uphill) lopes. They are associated with Western sports, as they are the best overall bred for them. QHs are also smaller than most Warmbloods or even PREs which means less movment. The average comformation is very different too with Warmbloods built for maximum collection and extension. QHs tend to be small and rounder. QHs have a hard time to compete with Warmbloods at higher levels. And if you are going that high, you want a horse you know will place. Im no expert in QHs, dont really know much about them, but from a personal standpoint they aren't built very well for dressage. If you were to compare Valegro to Firewater Flit, the differences are pretty big.
As someone that has endured so much negativity from other dressage riders with warmbloods - I think sometimes you get bullied into believing you have to have a warmblood. Two other women at my barn (one has an Andalusian and another a mixed breed) have also endured this. It's so sad to me. I've been at Western barns and Hunter barns and no one was ever like this until I got to a dressage barn.
Hey Hannah. I think your comment provides lots of insight and makes a lot of sense. I've been toying with the idea of buying a friend's QH and training him for dressage. We would be competing at the lower levels, mostly hoping to increase both he (the horse) and I's knowledge of collection,lengthening, aids,etc. Do you think I'd be ok with working with this guy for these purposes? Would love an English rider's input:all my friends ride Western out here.
@@hannahc6049 I jump quarter horses and believe me they are totally capable for English sports and even recognized in them. The AQHA has are old horse show where they have Hunters and equitation over fences. Believe me these horses can be just as good as any warmblood.
@@quarterhorseprofection5613 Capable, yes. And the look of stock HUS/Eq over fences vs english hunters is quite similair if you compare two HUS bred horses from each world. Ultimately they are very different horses and that's a good thing. It means everyone can have a horse that matches them. Even the most english looking HUS stock horse (AQHA or APHA) will not match a standard dressage bred warmblood/Baroque horse. Different breeds with different goals. A stock horse can do a wonderful trot in place or maybe even piaffe bit they won't match a lipizzaner/KWPN when it comes to collection and the ability to move uphill. The flat knee desired and smooth lope in western pleasure/HUS is opposite from the uphill action seen in the sport/Baroque horses for instance.
is it a 100% quarter horse or an appendix quarter horse? It looks more like an appendix quarter horse
I think so too. It must be an Appendix Quarter Horse.
That's a high Thoroughbred content appendix QH that moves more like a TB than a stock horse. Probably one of those bred for hunter under saddle, they like them with longer movements.
Also could possibly be something bred for barrel racing. I have seen a lot of Foundation bred that have Frenchman's Guy move like that as well.
I had a foundation stock QH that looked just like this. Everyone thought he was TB or WB but nope. He excelled in dressage/eventing but sadly I didn't get into it until he was way into his later years so didn't get to do much with him.
How on earth does this video have two down votes? 🤦♀️
Literally just people who hate me. They also report every single fb post I make. 😂
Probably Warmblood owners :)
l totally agree.chris
This was 5 years ago. Did the horse get to Grand Prix? Speaker said it was very likely. My kid is 5’9” do you think he can play pro basketball?
she's not flexing the back of the horse's neck too much is she? I don't remember what it's called but the dressage enchanted me until I discovered that many people used excessive force to abusively flex the poor horse's neck. Is it really necessary to flex the horse's neck?