People keep stealing my SH*T! (and what to do about it)
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- Опубліковано 17 вер 2019
- As photographers, we unfortunately have the odd occasion when we have to deal with other people using our images without permission.
This is often very frustrating, especially if it’s by professional organisations who should know better (or, even worse, other photographers).
Luckily for me, this is something that often gets brought to my attention by Karl Taylor Education members who are familiar with my work, but when I set out to create this video, I was surprised by just how much of my work is being used without permission!
Here I explain how you can identify websites or organisations using your images, resources you can use to learn more about the copyright laws in your country as well as the different steps you can take to safeguard your images.
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🔴 Search for your images using Google Reverse Image Search.
✔️Go to images.google.com and click the camera icon.
🔴 Getting help regarding copyright infringements.
✔️The Association of Photographers UK: www.the-aop.org/
✔️Professional Photographers of America: www.ppa.com/
🔴 Tracking your work and taking action against copyright theft.
✔️See where & how your images are being used online! www.pixsy.com/
✔️Find Stolen Photos & Illustrations. www.copytrack.com
🔴 Getting credit for your photography.
✔️Credit & Watermarking Service: www.exif.co/
🔴 Learn more about your rights as a photographer.
✔️The Copyright, Designs and Patents Act 1988 UK copyright law: www.copyrightservice.co.uk
✔️Copyright Law of the United States: www.copyright.gov/title17/
🔴 Embedding your own copyright information into the image metadata.
I use Adobe Lightroom or Photoshop for this but you'll find similar functions using your favorite image file managing or editing software. www.adobe.com
For further photography related business advice, check out our new blog post on what you should be charging for your work: www.karltayloreducation.com/p...
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Jared Polin contacted me and said his photoshoot was set up by Sony at a press event in NY. However as I said in my video it seems everyone get's 'inspiration' from everywhere, maybe Sony got the inspiration from me or from the Gary Numan album :)
So did did the press event write him the same lines in his video's the sames as in yours?
I think you libeled Jared Polin. I believe you came across his photo at the Sony Press event and thought he copied you. He has a ton of videos, shoots totally different from you, has not a single thing in common with you, and with the hundreds of videos he has out there, it would be easy to take a few words and say he copied you. It would be wise to concentrate on the people that actually copied your work, but I am sure I can find videos before yours which have similar scripts. What you complained about is something I have heard from a million people before you when they are trying to sell some course.
@@FelixCervantes Fro knows nothing about photo fanboy alert!
Karl Taylor Very interesting. The one thing that sets your channel apart from his and many other UA-cam channels is that his and those other UA-cam channels create subjects that have nothing to do with educating inspiring photographers about creativity, lighting techniques and directing. His and many of the other UA-cam channels boast about gear. And you made a rant video that I love about this topic. All these UA-camrs keep boasting about Sony vs Nikon vs Canon, how DSLRs are dead (like everyone should just sell/trade in all their DSLR equipment and convert to mirrorless) and which system everyone should buy. I will admit that I will watch those UA-camrs for entertainment purposes. I do not take them seriously. While on the other hand, there are some UA-cam photographers who are teaching, sharing knowledge and inspiring upcoming photographers that I take very seriously.
Good afternoon Karl & team.
Speaking of actually having the skills. I have a question about the lighting portion of your education platform:
I’ve heard and agreed with your emphasis on the importance of the mastering of light. I’ve read what is included in your lighting section.
Do you specifically cover calculating light intensity over distances when using modifiers?
For instance, how to understand and thereby use f-stop values at distances?
A typical example of what I mean is in the specs for a Siros 800:
- flash energy: 800 J
- f-stop at 2m distance, 100 ISO (6½ft)
-- with reflector L40: 32 ⁸/₁₀
-- with reflector P70: 45 ⁶/₁₀
P.S. - I appreciate the fact that you shared your discussion with Jared. That shows good character.
In few days on Fro channel "Everyone keeps stealing my work! (and what can I do about it)"
Lol
“If you want to be original, be ready to be copied.” Coco Chanel
A thought a was going to see people walking away with giant reflectors or battery packs under there arms. 😂
Same!
I'd like to see the video of the responses of the invoices sent!
"We're sorry. Unbeknownst to us, it seems one of our interns found your photo and mistakenly used it."
Your photography is too good - learn how to shoot like me and they'll stop ripping you off. Done and dusted.
This seems like a bulletproof solution. Copying me would work too. :D
I love the light-heartedness approach to this serious topic.
It makes it clear, that you understand that art *needs* inspiration and aspiration in the equal parts. But there is a clear line between inspiration and straight stealing.
Tony Northrup is smiling now ;)
Karl, I’ve always loved your work and advice; you were one of the first people I came across when I started to learn photography, and what a great place to start. I guess a sign of your success is people wish to emulate you, as the saying goes, imitation is a sign of flattery.
Admit it Karl, you want Jerod's hair.
Oddly, they're equally attractive.
Next video by Jarred and he has a bald head and an English accent
Um, no. I get that you're trying to be funny, but contrary to popular belief not many of us baldies actually give a sh!t, and are quite comfortable with having little to no hair. Even if I could grow hair like that, I'm pretty sure I'd still shave it all off, too.much hassle. 😂
@@MiaogisTeas Karl could change his 'schtick' to " No-Fro knows Faux-to ". I am totally comfortable with having no hair. 3 years ago I embraced the skin.
You have become one of my biggest inspirations since I found your channel! I really love your work and how you achieve what you've made!
Thank you so much
The sarcastic tone in the video says it all - feel honored if people use your images, it's a sign that you are on a good way.
Love your work Karl, and if there's anything I'd steal, it would be your Hasselblad lol.
Inspiration is generative, plagrism is regenerative. Keep inspiring.
No one has ever stolen anything I’ve done 😔
i simply love your way of teaching and your work.
This is a real issue that photographers face all the time. The main problem highlighted is people stealing the photographers actual images. The similarity of image styles is a much more knotty issue. Jared Polin's comments about his video are similar but fairly generic. Any photographer doing a tutorial video is likely to say, "I will take you right into the shoot as if you are there/my assistant/sitting on my lap" etc. Equally with images, some are very specific (the Halsman Dali image is so particular that you will only ever pay homage), but some - most - so generic that the principle in copyright law that you can't copyright an idea, only the manifestation of that idea, rings true.
How many whisky pictures looked like yours? Some were shot before you were even born. How much black perspex has been sacrificed on the alter of alcoholic beverages, back and side lit to subtly bring out the amber embrace of the magical liquid within? Well, the answer is lots. Those images are superbly executed but some of your examples are much more individual to you - to your style. Part of your USP is the 'event': the paint splash (an oblique reference to Harold Edgerton) or the bird of prey landing - all flawlessly realised. I'm sure many clients come to you for that skill in executing challenging situations. When people nick your actual image, then it becomes a problem.
When I use images for "inspiration" they are (you guessed it) usually from someone else's work. However, they are for inspiration and not re-creation which is a big difference as the end results usually aren't that close.
Love your work Karl...
Exactly.
GREAT VIDEO KARL. Thanks for sharing mate and calling out.
Thank you for this video!
Great video Karl informative and funny as heck! Cheers! 🥃
Hi Karl, I am one of your online students and I'd like to thank you for sharing so much important information.
I always like the expression that goes: If you copy one person it's plagiarism. If you copy a bunch of people it's called market research. When I started my drone aerial video business in 2004 I had a friend that also started a similar business a few months later. About a year into this I decided to check out his website only to find him damn near copying my text nearly word for word. Talk about being pissed. I have caught a few people over the years using my footage as their own in their demo reels. It's just the crazy world that we live in. Love your content. A ton of talent and wonderful content. Thank you.
Nice work brotha! I hear ya, I saw one of my images in a store. It was a small print on a plaque, they claimed ignorance as to its origin and I couldn’t prove it was mine on the spot so I let it go. I don’t post printable images so it was a mystery? Only thing I could think of was some computer tech taking liberties while performing maintenance on my laptop. What they fail to realize is, “You always reap what you sow.”
I think I'm pretty safe in saying my photo's will never be stolen.
You and me both 😂
sunnyside up Never say "never". Cheers.
people are welcome steal mine. I can't sell any, so that way I can make some profit through court))
The whole video and the "Fu**'s" effects where great but...the top of the top moments in this video is your face after Sinead song, hahaha tha was incredible, great !!! Thanks for sharing !!
At 2:30 that shoot I believe was set up by sony for the a7r4 demo
I wasn't aware of that, maybe Sony took inspiration from my images to set that up in the first place then?
@@VisualEducationStudio well I think Jared polin would be flatter if he thought someone thought he had the capacity to set up something like that.
@@VisualEducationStudio sorry that isn't enough. If you are going to make an accusation on that level you need to do at least a basic level of research to substantiate it. In this case you are just plain wrong and won't admit it.
it is very common that artists have similar ideas and make similar works not just for photographs even in larger scales for example short animation "Brain Divided" and the animated movie "Inside out" , I love Karl Taylor and his videos but we should not take it hard on other artist shooting photos with similar elements, even if they are inspired by our work we should not expect people to remember every inspiration they had and mention it, i'm sure it happend to everyone that you make something and you know you saw it somewhere but you just can't remember
The light tube setup was from a Sony press event for the A7R IV. Many photogs shot that scene on that day.
so Sony robbed it from Hasselblad at Photokina 2014 🤔 the plot thickens - "coincidence or inspiration, I guess we'll never know" 😂
🤔 maybe Dexter has a point
And it was used in a feature film about a punk band in the early 80’s.
I was going to say it was for the Sony event. it is a pretty cool looking.
@@andinbriwel1092 And in the Gary Numan album I showed in the video which is where I probably got the idea from! There's nothing new left :)
In the US you can bulk register your photos with the US copyright office. You need to do this prior to filing suit. It’s pretty cheap to do for any images you own the rights to.
This is correct. However, the US Copyright Office (USCO) has *updated* its copyright registration procedure to register photographs.
As of September 21, 2019, you can register up to 750 published OR unpublished images in one eCO Registration System (aka, on-line or e-Filing). You can NOT mix published and unpublished images in the same application. It cost $55 to register up to 750 images. Filing fees will likely increase in 2020.
The new procedure *REQUIRES* each photograph to include an image title and image file name (and date of first-publication for published works) and that can take quite a bit of time to complete thoroughly and accurately!
If you just want to register ONE image, published or unpublished, where you’re the sole author that’s not part of a work-for-hire arrangement (you created the image yourself; it does NOT include any third-party media; not created by a corporation), then it’s $35.
To have the full force of US law for both US and international photographers, they MUST *timely* register their copyrights either BEFORE the infringement starts or within THREE calendar months of FIRST-publication to be able to pursue statutory damages and recoupment of attorney fees and legal costs against the US-based infringer (at the court’s discretion). If you miss that registration window, you can ONLY pursue actual money damages AND you can NOT recoup your attorney fees from the infringer, making it economically challenging (impossible???) to pursue US-based infringers without having a timely registered copyright in-hand.
If your images have been infringed once, then they are susceptible of being repeatedly infringed: You’re still encouraged to get your photographs immediately registered to go after new infringers.
If you choose NOT to timely register your photo copyrights, at the very least affix them with robust watermark LOGOS, metadata, image title, and other “Copyright Management Information” (CMI). Infringers who knowingly cover up, remove, or change any CMI to hide their infringements or induce others to infringe can be liable from $2,500 to $25,000 in statutory damages PLUS attorney fees PLUS legal fees (at the court’s discretion). The *GOOD* News: You do not have to timely register your copyright claims to pursue CMI violators.
I will admit when you do walkthrough of how you do a shot I see what I have laying around to do similar shots and always credit you and usually link the video you do the walkthrough on this has been my greatest classroom.
thanks Justin, yes as an educator in photography I recognise that people will use the lighting setups I show whilst they learn but once they reach a level they understand that depending on what is they have to shoot the setups will likely need to be tweaked or adapted to better enhance that subject, I believe it becomes an issue when its a direct replication with no credit to the original
@@VisualEducationStudio I started off as a stylist but it was watching your videos that taught me how to get started making those images for myself. I even credited (or blamed) you when I got my hasselblad... and yeah old albums are amazing for inspiration.
Yandex reverse image search is even more aggressive in finding duplicates of photos than Google's version! Keep that in mind :)
I once found one of my illustrations being sold as a t-shirt on Amazon.
My biggest dream is to learn from you... I started my photography career watching your tutorials and you will not believe maybe, that i become one of the best product photographer in my town. But Sir Karl, you are always my inspiration and i believe that one day i will meet you insha ALLAH
Great video and some sick burns!! Cheers
Best photography channel, solid contents, professional! No wander someone would do this. Many fashion designers have to spend months from nothing to the actual pice. It is the ground zero of knock off, copy, plagiarisms… Sue them? sure, they have hundreds of lawyers waiting, and they will make enough money from your idea before the case closed no matter what.
Imitation is the sincerest form of flattery. Stealing images for commercial gain is not imitation though.
Concise, amusing and highly useful.
Thank you :)
Great references and despite of not having any impact in the industry, I've seen already some unfortunate consequences of not water marking my work! For instances, from a trial shoot, in which was just a test, saw later the use of those pictures by some that didn't showed any gratitude , what so ever. To be honest thought that they didn't like it...however, a few weeks later found those pictures on their social platforms!!! Sad! Cheers (Great wakeup call!!!)
😂 sorry just finished laughing out loud! I’ve put up with this outrageous behaviour for years now.....I’m off to send some invoices 💰💰💰💰💰💰💰💰💰💰💰💰💰💰
Glad you enjoyed it Barry and get those invoices out! :)
3:57 except that sites like Facebook strip the metadata.
Very good one and good information :-)
Dude... You are the best
Karl made a video about plagiarism, and it is as entertaining as it is informative. Kudos!
I shoot portraits using the exact same lighting setup from your tutorials. Thievery?
thnks fstoppers for introducing me to him in ur website..now im his new subscriber!
Thanks for finding us, check out some of our previous live youtube Q&A replays with Ashleigh, these are usually quite educational and entertaining!
Karl, Very serious subject but thank you for approaching it with some humor.
Karl, this was very informative. Thank you. I am sorry people steal your work. I love your hawk picture, and the episode where you described it .
thanks, yes it was a lot of fun, one of the first shoots we did in this studio
Comical presentation well done of a serious issue. I like the reverse image search feature.
yes, we wanted to suggest the problem without being too aggressive, glad you appreciated it and yes its very handy for photographers
Great little video about a pesky and important issue!
I've been saying this for years and it's only gotten worse and worse. All these photographers who spend ALL their time hocking crap or trying to become a "brand ambassador". None of their channels have anything to do with actually teaching anything or photography and they're constantly just rehasing the same shit from each other over and over cause the horse has long been dead. I remember when the art of photography podcast was actually about photography appreciation and teaching and not about sucking up to sony and hasselblad to get some free gear and sell silly jackets.
That’s Internet ... I guess that means you do great work!
Fro knows.... er Karl Taylor!?
I used to follow Jared Polin, watch his videos, and learn from him. I waste hours and weeks learning from him and 0 inspiration because I have not seen 1 video about his work, all I see his afro, stupid T-shirt (I ShOoT rAw) and criticize other photographers, until one day a friend of mine showed me a youtube video of shooting whiskey bottle that shot inspired me to the level that I said YES! that's what I'm looking for, and here I am proud to be Karl Taylor student and there's no shame about it.
Thank you for this great info Mr. Karl :) Thing I personally hate is when people take something without asking , is that so difficult to contact, to ask for photo?! Ufff, I have also found my photo, it was written my name as copyright on photo but someone was used PS to crop a photo and upload on webste... anyway.. Karl thank you so much for this links and time for sharing :)
Ilija
Great video Karl! Copywrite and intellectual property isn't taught enough nor reinforced.
Really much keep on eye on it, but also I like the fact the fans will call out this imposter.
Its take a community. Thank you for the great content.
Thank you Nathalie.
It's more common in these times. Companies and ppl stealing photos
“Send them an invoice” 99% they won’t even respond, and due to different international copyright laws, it is almost impossible to get your money if this happends over seas. You would need lawyers, translators etc that all need to be paid as well. Tony Northtrup did a video about a little while ago.
It's still worth doing. Some will do the right thing and pay up even if most will just ignore it.
Lol Karl is trying to become the Gordon Ramsay of photography
To be fair I’ve never heard of darrin haddad
Until this video..Yet my style of photography is very very similar with the bold colors. When we as artist and creators get influence from the internet we almost never know who made it but it registers in our heads and we go with it.
This happens everywhere with music, design etc.
Great video! Useful info at the end too - thanks Karl :)
Nothing compares to your and Sinead's haircut
do you think I need to credit her?
1:45 lmao oh snap not the fro sensei
It's just unbelievable and shameful !
Stealing a picture is one thing but copying educational material is a hard thing not to do, my profession is health and safety and everything I have in my keynote presentations was all stolen from UK and local regulations and ACOP’s, when giving a presentation about light and ISO I bloody well hope you all give the same information as the light doesn’t change from one person to the next..
fair point, but I was more making a suggestion at how similarly the script was worded rather than that actual educational content
@@VisualEducationStudio It be like people accusing you of stealing from Tony Northrup because they did a video about people stealing their photos. In a 2 hour video about photography words are going to be close.
The shot with the LED tubes was set up by Sony at their camera launch event. Everyone has that same shot including me
I didn't know that but does that suggest Sony took inspiration from the images I took back in 2014 for Hasselblad's Photokina?
excuses :D ;) :P
Sony=BIG invoice
Manny the Sony sell out.
@@VisualEducationStudio Everyone takes inspiration from you Karl. When it comes to cool concepts and how to get that impossible shot, you pretty much invented the wheel. But do we actually have the copyright to the composition and design of an image? What about if the colours are changed, or the subject posed slightly differently. We do not have a patent on the image as this would be impossible. Is this not the inevitable outcome of showing everyone for a decade or more how to shoot your work. I'm not saying this is right, but simply spit balling.
Hahahahaha , its very good sign Carl, never mind , there is a big deference between a creative mind and copy cat mindset , you will always have a steps forward while they will be only following, actually its the story of human being, when I was singing in weddings there was this guy who was always copying me, but I was so happy cause he pushed me to have always new ideas
Karl the bestes of the best. Thank you so much for KTE. See You!
Thank you Vadim
Again Karl , thanks for file info tip :)
Gavin Hoey has been stealing your accent for some time now.
But a question, is a periodic google search for the image a routine you use to find if people are stealing your work?
Even if it's subject I'm not looking for information on, yours and Gavin's videos are ones that I'll watch just for pleasure or to see what you're doing. Cheers to you both.
that's why you are the best
Shots fired!
Love the idea of using the chicken sound
The Sinead O'Connor album photo, inspired by Ingmar Bergman close up stills. How do you protect copyrights from Chinese plagiarism though?
That could be an idea for another video.
How does that phrase go? "Stealing is the sincerest form of flattery"? No, that can't be it.
IDK about the scripts but that shoot was heavily inspired
Respected sir,
I am amateur product photographer from India. Want to review my images, where do I post the same. Please guide me.
Hi Karl interesting video. Thought to share some additional info. I have a photographer insurance that also includes copyright infringement. For other photographers check if they have this. If not might be useful to have.
Same in music. I even get asked to give my music for free to a big film... Well they asekd but for free? C´mon!! I am so tired of this shit in the field of art.
I guess Fro doesn't know! Good Job Karl!
I bought some of your very first dvd courses and they have been ripped off by the BIGGEST photography UA-camrs. I wish i could stay as calm as you when work is blatantly stolen lol
sad very sad i hope you work things out with them well thanks for showing me how to copyright my image in PS
no problem
Fro steals photoooo dot com 🤣
what a great video!! very entertaining !!! hahahaha
The problem of photography these days is trash talking and using this term (I can do much better job than him/her) and ends up copying a shitty version of original concept or remix , the solution for that is use social media as a power tool to spread more than those guys/girls to let everybody knows that this is your original work , the thing is that those shitty people became the so called (Social media influencers) and us photographers who are really doing the job should spread more than those fake photographers , the problem is universal to be honest
The people only copy the best artists 😎
Genuine question - did you license the use of the album cover images in this video, or the snippets of music? If not, are you expecting a C&D notice or invoice from the record company?
The majority of music in this is clearly stock music, the album cover images are clearly being utilised under ‘fair dealing’ and as for the music from the albums only 2-3 seconds were used also clearly under fair dealing. They clearly know what they’re doing. You tried to call them out and you just made yourself look like a idiot. Shut up and sit down
woooooo!!!! Love you Karl! good work calling out the fro guy. Never again watching his channel, I cannot stand anyone stealing and then pretending.
A very funny and informative video. Thanks Karl.
haha glad you enjoyed it
Sorry Karl, I did the whisky shoot too with the Balvenie bottle 🙄
Prove it!
Jared Polin has borrowed your work... I just subscribed to your channel. I can't believe I missed to know you all this time
The conclusion of Karl Taylor’s video uses approx. three-seconds of Gary Numan’s “Cars” sound recording. I see that specific usage as being less Fair Use commentary and more of way for Karl to “esthetically” end his video. And to make his point about finding new photo inspirations from his music album covers, Karl should have dropped in a still image of an album cover (that he admires and that supports his concluding video commentary) rather than re-play the “Cars” music track!
We did include the Gary Numan album cover (and a Sinead album cover) earlier in the video to give example of how they may have inspired my own work. It would have been odd to repeat it again at the end.
I'm also sorry for plagiarizing your hair do
expect an invoice
@@VisualEducationStudio yes I know but you owe You Brynner more
@@davejenx HA HA yes
Now that you mention it, my hairline has started moving toward Karl's look ever since I joined KTE!
I'm curious. Let me know what you think.
So straight up ripping someone else's work is wrong, but what about recreating the image? And is so how different must it be before it's accepted as not a rip off or copy?
I suppose it depends on the purpose. In the one example of Darrin Haddad's shot I explained to my audience that this was a complex shot and I wanted to demonstrate the techniques on how it is possible to reproduce it. On the Philipe Halsman 'Dali Atomicus' shot it was an historical reproduction for the BBC of this very old and famous image. In those contexts I think it is acceptable as the original creator is always credited, in many ways I suppose it like a musician doing a cover of someone's song. I would also add that amongst professional photographers there is a lot of 'inspiration' and many similar shots, either by coincidence or simply the ideas are just re-spun slightly differently. Often the photographers don't even have a choice as an art director or advertising agency will come with a brief and say 'I want this' and what they show you is another photograph or idea that they want you to replicate but with their product. I think it can be considered not a rip off or copy if it brings something new or an additional element of difference to the shot.
Really rude to steal pictures like that! 😠😠
When it comes to take inspiration from another photog I think it's not a big deal. If you plagiarize someone completely I think it's best you say where the original idea came from
hahaha good video! Jared Polin even saids the same about squarespace!!!
😂 yes I should put that in the video as well! (haha of course I'm joking)
@@VisualEducationStudio I know! Good vibes for you! I follow you since 2010, great inspiration for me! Greetings from Uruguay!
I hate it when they steal your pictures. Pay 💰 me.
That Russian over-dub on the video was incredibly audacious! I cannot believe it.
It's another Russian scam website. None of them cares about copyright and the whole webpage is always ready to be taken down. They'll just make a new one.
Wooohh.. That insane.. Why so many people use your photographs without permission.. Its really not a good thing to do..
nope, I don't get any shoots done either with all these invoices that need typing up now
its even worse then u think. Some stock photography sites might not even check if photos are stolen or not and people might buy them thinking its good (while not doing their research themselves.. ). That would be a serious legal maze to go through.
How the F will someone replicate the exact same image/conditions if a client wants the version that saw on your website? Its another thing to steal, and another to be stupid AF :sigh
That's why IP firms exist. People have no respect for others' works. However, How do we differentiate Inspiration and Copy?