Excellent video with great timing, I am sorting through some issues with form and recently had to change to a new tab due to a loss of a vital part of my old one. I focused today on proper finger pressure distribution. I do know when get tense or tired my third finger tends to have /put too much pressure
I was literally just today questioning my finger placement, on my third day shooting. This was very reassuring, because I did adopt a first joint placement eventually.
Thanks 😂 so many things as you say when learning I thought I was doing right changed my hook from middle to finger tips an wondered why I was plucking so much as I thought it would release better so informed teaching
I think I was closer to the 2nd knuckle joint when I started shooting heavier bows, but now I’m getting better at not doing that. Sometimes I have deliberately pinched the nock of the arrow before, but that’s because they were dodgy traditional wooden nocks that got worn over time and kept slipping off the string. I should probably find a way to fix those nocks so they fit tighter because I know pinching it is a bad habit. If they were plastic nocks I’d just plier them together
Left hand, right hand, fingers, wrist, arm, all aligned and muscles relaxed. I push my index finger on the arrow nock so the distance between my eye and nocking point is constantly the same. My middle finger is 3 to 4 millimeters below the arrow nock before pulling the string so the arrow is not risen at full draw.
At my club they teach 3 under, i used to shoot split but find free under more accurate and a better anchor feel. But that's just my experience. Ps i always have my top of my fingers on the string, i find it's a more smooth let go, rather than a snap, if that makes sense
When I shoot with sight, I shoot 3 under, but without a sight (either with my own compound on an event we've no sights are allowed, OR at the funfair with the recurves), then I feel more comfortable and accurate using split finger. I was taught split finger at first, but saw almost nobody use it at our club, so I asked why they teach it but not use it themselves. They all say that they over time transitioned, without any other reason than being more comfortable. Whether they do or don't use a sight, they always use 3 under, the weirdos :D
@@mvl8209 😅😅 I know mate. All clubs teach in extremely different way's. My club didn't bother about dominant eye, some clubs that's the first thing they learn to give you the correct bow. But if you're right handed as most are you shoot holding bow in left hand. But still, most people get that initial training in then adopt their way of shooting.
@@mvl8209 Oh I've not used sites, i refused to, I'm really into barebow, not that I'll never use them, but just like bearbow, not saying one is better or worse.
@digitaldogs233 same here: you're right handed? Use a right handed bow! You're a young child who's left handed? Oh, uhmmmm we have no bow that you can draw yet. Use a right handed one! It was only after watching this kind of videos and browsing reddit and archerytalk that I knew of dominant eye being a factor, let alone being almost more important than hand dominance! That was really a 🤯 moment
@@alexm2833Indeed, I’m a mix of Mediterranean split finger and eastern thumb draw but with a middle finger lock and the index finger pointing down the shaft stopping the arrow flicking
Oooh perfect timing, this is indeed what I was starting to doubt about! Question: Do your fingers lightly touch the arrow, or do you make sure there is space between your arrow, index and middle finger?
No , in fact with the Mediterranean split, with a finger tab you are likely to need to trim away some of the tab to prevent touching. The arrow is held in place by the tightness of the nock and the nock beads themselves
Your just pulling more with your ring finger ... It's not wrong. There's actually no wrong or right. I myself shoot like that and I have a callous on the top of my ring finger from drawing the string with most of the weight pulled by my ring finger. I also use finger savers on my string.
I wish I'd been able to watch this video 30 years ago. This other thing to bear in mind is relative finger lengths, my index finger is quite short and considerably stronger than the rest put together, and my middle finger is relatively long. The result is that I am only able to build the string on the pads of the index and ring finger whilst it's almost a very deep hook on my middle finger (the terminal joint of my index finger is level with the medial joint of my middle finger, whilst my ring finger....well it's almost as long as my middle finger, but is shaped like a tiny banana, so I hold a 60/30/10 proportion of weight on my fingers. I wish we were allowed to use a Mongolian release in Olympic Recurve as that feels far more natural for me and I don't think it conveys any overall advantage or disadvantage over the Mediterranean Release in terms of scores.
I know this is off topic but I'd like to know the regulation for taking archery equipment to Australia. Should I take it with me or send it by cargo or just buy new equipment once I settled there?
Kind of related but rather different question here. I just watched the series Rings of Power and in season 1, episode 2 the Elb draws his bow backhanded because like that he could draw faster. Is there any historical backing for that?
No. The back quivers used in the show are the Hollywood variety and would not have been used in real life, so the inverted draw and grip would have no purpose. Even if this was used, it isn't necessary, or desirable, to shoot with that level of speed. Strong bows require proper technique to draw, not the CGI-enhanced elastic props that the actors are given.
@@NUSensei I was thinking about trying this draw with my bow just for funsies, but I'm not sure about potential injuries (got a 60 pound bow and I am not that well trained)
Hey Nu, i've been practicing archery for 2 years but its been a couple months (about 3) since the last time i practiced and after practicing the last two days i noticed my ring finger on my drawing hand feels slightly numb at the tip despite it never having happened before. I use a finger tab with Mediterranean draw and hook at the first joint of my fingers so i don't know what changed to cause this to happen. Do you have any advice?
Im really not sure where to go on this, half the videos say dont sit on the joint as its to thin and doesnt protect the nerve. So they recommend going mid finger tip. Yours seems to be the opposite as the joints give better strength. Its a tricky choice.
Frankly, I don't know who would recommend mid-finger. Ask any archery club and community and they recommend deep hooks. Finger protection negates the weakness of the joint against nerve damage.
As a person just starting out in archery, with interest in recurve you're videos has been a great watch.
Excellent video with great timing, I am sorting through some issues with form and recently had to change to a new tab due to a loss of a vital part of my old one. I focused today on proper finger pressure distribution. I do know when get tense or tired my third finger tends to have /put too much pressure
I was literally just today questioning my finger placement, on my third day shooting. This was very reassuring, because I did adopt a first joint placement eventually.
finally a video on this, thanks
0:45 oh wow, it's fortunate that I caught this early on; i always underestimate the damage on my fingers for not using protection.
Thanks Sensei! 👍🏻👍🏻
Thanks 😂 so many things as you say when learning I thought I was doing right changed my hook from middle to finger tips an wondered why I was plucking so much as I thought it would release better so informed teaching
hahahah i've been subbed to your channel since you taught when i was at school. Keep up the good vids
this is timely, I am messing with this right now and it is good to have.a coach!
I think I was closer to the 2nd knuckle joint when I started shooting heavier bows, but now I’m getting better at not doing that. Sometimes I have deliberately pinched the nock of the arrow before, but that’s because they were dodgy traditional wooden nocks that got worn over time and kept slipping off the string.
I should probably find a way to fix those nocks so they fit tighter because I know pinching it is a bad habit. If they were plastic nocks I’d just plier them together
Awesome video, I assume all this works for 3 under and overhand as well.
Excellent explanation, thank you. 🙂
see, you really are the cool aussie guy who archerys
Thanks for this one.
Thanks! Great video
Left hand, right hand, fingers, wrist, arm, all aligned and muscles relaxed. I push my index finger on the arrow nock so the distance between my eye and nocking point is constantly the same. My middle finger is 3 to 4 millimeters below the arrow nock before pulling the string so the arrow is not risen at full draw.
At my club they teach 3 under, i used to shoot split but find free under more accurate and a better anchor feel. But that's just my experience. Ps i always have my top of my fingers on the string, i find it's a more smooth let go, rather than a snap, if that makes sense
When I shoot with sight, I shoot 3 under, but without a sight (either with my own compound on an event we've no sights are allowed, OR at the funfair with the recurves), then I feel more comfortable and accurate using split finger.
I was taught split finger at first, but saw almost nobody use it at our club, so I asked why they teach it but not use it themselves. They all say that they over time transitioned, without any other reason than being more comfortable. Whether they do or don't use a sight, they always use 3 under, the weirdos :D
@@mvl8209
😅😅 I know mate. All clubs teach in extremely different way's. My club didn't bother about dominant eye, some clubs that's the first thing they learn to give you the correct bow. But if you're right handed as most are you shoot holding bow in left hand. But still, most people get that initial training in then adopt their way of shooting.
@@mvl8209
Oh I've not used sites, i refused to, I'm really into barebow, not that I'll never use them, but just like bearbow, not saying one is better or worse.
@digitaldogs233 same here: you're right handed? Use a right handed bow!
You're a young child who's left handed? Oh, uhmmmm we have no bow that you can draw yet. Use a right handed one!
It was only after watching this kind of videos and browsing reddit and archerytalk that I knew of dominant eye being a factor, let alone being almost more important than hand dominance! That was really a 🤯 moment
Howard Hill, the greatest ever used two under Mediterranean.....so will i
He used what was best for him. We are all slighltly different though...i am experimenting currently
@@alexm2833Indeed, I’m a mix of Mediterranean split finger and eastern thumb draw but with a middle finger lock and the index finger pointing down the shaft stopping the arrow flicking
Oooh perfect timing, this is indeed what I was starting to doubt about!
Question: Do your fingers lightly touch the arrow, or do you make sure there is space between your arrow, index and middle finger?
No , in fact with the Mediterranean split, with a finger tab you are likely to need to trim away some of the tab to prevent touching. The arrow is held in place by the tightness of the nock and the nock beads themselves
I have a problem when using split fingers, after about 100 shot i find an abrasion on my ring finger. What am i doing wrong?
Your just pulling more with your ring finger ... It's not wrong. There's actually no wrong or right. I myself shoot like that and I have a callous on the top of my ring finger from drawing the string with most of the weight pulled by my ring finger. I also use finger savers on my string.
I wish I'd been able to watch this video 30 years ago.
This other thing to bear in mind is relative finger lengths, my index finger is quite short and considerably stronger than the rest put together, and my middle finger is relatively long. The result is that I am only able to build the string on the pads of the index and ring finger whilst it's almost a very deep hook on my middle finger (the terminal joint of my index finger is level with the medial joint of my middle finger, whilst my ring finger....well it's almost as long as my middle finger, but is shaped like a tiny banana, so I hold a 60/30/10 proportion of weight on my fingers. I wish we were allowed to use a Mongolian release in Olympic Recurve as that feels far more natural for me and I don't think it conveys any overall advantage or disadvantage over the Mediterranean Release in terms of scores.
Cool bow though
Nice shirt btw. Greetings from Norway
Is this for 20-30lbs bows? Do you have to use a release on a 50lbs bow?
I know this is off topic but I'd like to know the regulation for taking archery equipment to Australia. Should I take it with me or send it by cargo or just buy new equipment once I settled there?
is your finger suppose to touch the arrow or nock when pulling the string back when shooting split finger?
@@kpay10 No contact.
Kind of related but rather different question here. I just watched the series Rings of Power and in season 1, episode 2 the Elb draws his bow backhanded because like that he could draw faster. Is there any historical backing for that?
No. The back quivers used in the show are the Hollywood variety and would not have been used in real life, so the inverted draw and grip would have no purpose. Even if this was used, it isn't necessary, or desirable, to shoot with that level of speed. Strong bows require proper technique to draw, not the CGI-enhanced elastic props that the actors are given.
@@NUSensei I was thinking about trying this draw with my bow just for funsies, but I'm not sure about potential injuries (got a 60 pound bow and I am not that well trained)
Hey Nu, i've been practicing archery for 2 years but its been a couple months (about 3) since the last time i practiced and after practicing the last two days i noticed my ring finger on my drawing hand feels slightly numb at the tip despite it never having happened before. I use a finger tab with Mediterranean draw and hook at the first joint of my fingers so i don't know what changed to cause this to happen. Do you have any advice?
What's your opinion on curling the fingers? How far do you curl in your fingers?
If you keep the string around the first joint, you won't need to curl much. Excessive curling happens when the hook is too deep.
Its impossible for me to put the ringfinger loose to the string, its always under tension.
Any tips on someone shooting with half a missing middle finger… 😅 my realise is terrible
Im really not sure where to go on this, half the videos say dont sit on the joint as its to thin and doesnt protect the nerve. So they recommend going mid finger tip.
Yours seems to be the opposite as the joints give better strength. Its a tricky choice.
Frankly, I don't know who would recommend mid-finger. Ask any archery club and community and they recommend deep hooks. Finger protection negates the weakness of the joint against nerve damage.
Yep. He's right as usual folks. My ring finger is hardly doing anything.....except fouling my release of course. Ha ha. Good times.
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Ещё один глупыш пытается рассказать о том, о чём понятия не имеет 🤪
Как же много развелось таких неумех "теоретиков" 🤣
Минус естественно.