OSB instead of sheetrock?
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- Опубліковано 19 лис 2022
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A portion of our pole barn is dedicated to a wood working shop (He Said) and an art studio / refinishing space (She Shed). We are in the process of building out the interior of these maker spaces and are glad to have you join us for this journey. Today we take you through material choices for the walls plus some of our trials during painting and the remedies we chose for those bumps in the road along the way.
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Pro painter here. With OSB, you want to start with an oil base primer. Zinsser has many. Roll on one coat. Then, roll/spray on 2 coats of water base latex paint. The oil primer will not "swell" the OSB. (water base primer/paint WILL swell the osb sometimes) Also the oil primer bonds best, saturates further, and blocks all stains from the saps in the wood, as well as water stains, or most any stain really. Hope this helps someone!
Wow! Yeah, super helpful. Makes total sense that the swelling/puckering in spots come from the water! Thanks for sharing your expertise and thanks so much for watching!!
Can you recommend some good brands for the latex paint? Like from sherwin etc?
@@jroark101 It depends on what you are doing! What is the project? Inside, outside, cabinets? Stucco, wood, brick? I need some details to recommend a product. :)
I just did my 12x20 shed, can confirm oil based primer, then one cost of primer and paint all in one. Then on the floor I used a anti slip enamel paint
When gluing the 2 pieces together, use a paintable silicone in all the joints, let ooze out and sand when dry. Then apply oil based primer, and 2 coats of latex paint. Honestly using OSB on the wall is way more expensive than using drywall, given all the steps required to give it a level 5 finish!
LOL you two are so cute and funny! I really like seeing what you're up to. I've watched Becky's channel for quite a while now and just discovered yours. Congratulations on the new grandbaby!
Thanks for joining us, too! I'm loving being a grandma!
I buttoned all the buttons 🙋♀️ lol!! U two are absolutely great!! “Button” lol!!
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You are correct about some sort of glue that is used. It’s a structural strength glue they use to adhere all the levels of the strand panel together with the correct pressure applied to create a solid surface that is strong and reliable for moderate construction. That’s what makes it the perfect all around 7/16” strand board available. It’s very easy to work with and in many cases a forgiving panel to fit into your garage, dedicated shop or any studio. Basically any moderate typical structure. And a very useful panel to use for anything to be attached in the panel anywhere between the studs just as you have mentioned in your commentary! You have done a great job informing your audience with important information. It only lacks additional important information that would become useful in a more dedicated operation. Nothing the average weekend warrior will do in a single project. I hope this is helpful.
We really appreciate your additional information! Yes, we are definitely in the weekend warrior category! :)
This was so nice.. love it
Glad you enjoyed it!
I love how you guys add humor in to your blog post
Love it!
I love your banter,it shows what a close couple you are…..I can’t wait to see your artwork….I dibble in a few areas.
Thanks for the affirmation on that, csjackson76. Life is too short to take it too seriously. Well, at least not all the time. Thanks for watching!!
Lol. Love watching your series. I have been watching Becky for some time and subscribed after watching you prepare Christmas with her.
For a cool effect, after applying OIL based primer. OSB absorbs any water based products and swells and discolors. After primer, you can take a product like Thoroseal and with a hopper gun and add a splattered or textured effect to the all. You can always knock down the high spot with a steel trowel or wide blade drywall knife. The effect/texture is only limited by your mind! :) After that, you can add a couple of coats of your preferred color of any latex paint! Enjoy!
Well, dry wall texture came into vogue when we started to build track housing, In other words build many houses all in a row in a sub division. To speed up dry wall finishing, texture hides the imperfections of the finish work, ie joint and nail or screws.
I kind wondered if it wasn't something like that. Same reason I like to use "Hammerite" spray paint on some of my projects. The bumpy 'hammered metal' finish hides a multitude of sins.
Definitely use the Kilz on the first coat.
I loved the outtakes ...you two complement each other's personalities perfectly. I found your channel while watching Acre Homestead when Renee and Becky were cooking together. I came over and subscribed before watching because I had seen you on Becky's channel and knew I'd also enjoy your channel! ~Margie🤗⛄❄
I'm doing this now with my wife. Oil based kilz, 2 coats, then semi gloss latex.
Sounds like a good recipe. Let us know how it comes out. Thanks for watching!
@@hesaid-sheshed Im very happy with the result. I was unsure if i could get a semi smooth surface with what i had applied. I found that really pressing the roller on the second coat to get into the grooves and cracks really helps make a "uniform" surface. It almost looks like stucco.
I used osb to make some shelves last fall. I used a tub (yes all of it) of wood filler to smooth out the osb, then painted it.
Something this large, I would imagine if you used a filling primer prior to painting you would get better results
Hello Jseen. That's an interesting approach. I'm not familiar with "filling primer" though. Is there a specific brand/product you would recommend?
On the one hand, OSB is cheaper than fancier plywood products which is why I found it an attractive option for this build. In the back of my mind though I wonder whether I truly came out optimally in terms of end cost. By the time we ended up throwing so many coats of product on it to make it kinda presentable, I think about how those numbers might crunch if I'd have started with something less textured than OSB.
It's a done deal now and we're content with the outcome but I might do a bit more homework if I had this all to do over again.
Thanks for watching and especially for joining the conversation!
I did the same with the osb but I started with the kills then two coats of paint!
Thanks for sharing your experience. Looking back, we prolly should have started with the Killz. Thanks for watching, Michael!
I wonder to smooth out the osb woukd you reccomend troweling on drywall mud before painting to fill any voids?
Hmm. I suppose that would work but we did not attempt such a thing.
If you want/need that smooth finish, drywall might just be the right choice for you instead of OSB.
If you're needing the best of both worlds though, the mud would of course adds time, mess and expense to the project.
Note that there might be lighter mud/filler products out there other than drywall mud that would do a good job of hiding the OSBs texture very nicely. Unfortunately, I don't have a specific product to refer you to. Come back and let us know though if you found something suitable. Good luck with your project and thanks for watching!
@@hesaid-sheshed yes mamm thank you. ❤️
I’ve just used four coats of vinyl silk emulsion to coat osb
We've never tried that product before. Did any of the oil resin or glue bleed through?
@@hesaid-sheshed yes I had the yellow resin coming through but it did cover eventually.
White paint actually has great coverage. It contains the largest percentage of titanium dioxide (TDo), the mineral responsible for not only the whiteness, but opacity. It is used in 90% of paint products and colors, but the addition of other pigments dilutes the TDo, hence the ability to cover.
Any time you suspect stains, go right to an oil based stain covering primer. I've had bad luck with any water based brand, sometime barely any better than standard latex primer. Even so, test a small area. I've had oil based stain primers fail. Then you go to the ultimate--white, shellac based primer. NEVER had it fail. I sometime keep a spray can with me to touch up bleed through when other primers are covering most, but not all stains (like knots).
You should never have to resort to oil based finish paint for stain suppression--that is the job of your primer (I'm not even sure if would be any better--never needed it). Normally one coat of the proper primer, two coats of latex top coat. At worst, a few touch-up spots on the primer before top coating. Ciao!
Wow! This layering methodology makes so much sense. Thanks for making the time to write this up and summarize it for the community. Several great tips here.
Oil based primer.
If you skimcoat it, will look nicer than drywall.
We use sheetrock because it used to be cheap. It’s expensive now. But still cheap looking
Good thoughts there but does the skim coat product plus the OSB come close to adding up to drywall? Just curious. I'd still go with USB given the utilitarian use case here (hobby space/workshop/outbuilding). Thanks for sharing your expertise!
Would you skim coat after priming with oil based primer?
@@hesaid-sheshed nope. Now OSB is more expensive than drywall when I am though 😂
@@murrrrr16 I would skim first. If you’re using bucket mud then yes prime after.
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Love the video. Did you insulate the walls before putting up the OSB. Thank you
Hello and thanks for watching! We did indeed insulate. That along with a lot of other work in this space lead up to this video (painting day). If you're interested in all the gory details of the insulation phase of the project, check out this link. Skip forward to around 9:10 if you like or just watch the whole darn thing. Thanks for being here!
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Personally I prefer drywall, OSB has less of a insulation value than drywall and you can’t hide the joints. 34 years in the metal frame drywall system industry, Im biased.
Totally hear you! We decided to go with sheetrock for the ceiling to create that seamless look. We will be posting that video soon.
@@hesaid-sheshed very nice, I’m sure it will look great.
No, don’t ever feel like your making a boring video, you are teaching many people on HOW TO PAINT, and specifically plywood, anything on how to do something I couldn’t thanks someone enough for giving me tips and teaching me how to do something.
Used this paint once for outside shed that I redone. It didn't cover well and faded/changed colors after two month and in 6 months I had to redo the entire job. MHO is maybe the worst paint to use for at least outdoor use.
Eww. Bummer. I'm sorry to hear that. Hopefully we have better long term experience with indoor. It's not climate controlled out there though. We only fire up a space heater or two when we've got projects afoot so that may impact things. Thanks for the insights.
Hi, what type of painting? Name it, please. Thank you.
Hm. I'm not sure I understand your question. Can you elaborate, please? I'd love to help if I can but I want to understand better what you're asking for.
We talked at length during the video about the type we used (water based) vs. the potential advantages of oil based. If we had it to do over again, we'd probably go with an oil base paint. Was there some particular topic we didn't cover during the video? Thanks for watching!
I never understand the texture thing. I'm in Canada. And near me. NO ONE textures the walls. They are always smooth unless your house is super old. And most people remove texture walls. If your walls are not smooth is looks dated and old here.
That is so interesting! Smooth walls would be easier for patching and repairing. No need to retexture something.
I’m also in Canada…same…smooth walls.
Feels twice as heavy and half as durable as plywood in my experience of using it.
That is true. OSB was more cost-effective for us and we needed a LOT for these spaces. We were fortunate to have purchased everything before prices went CRAZY!
@@hesaid-sheshed and if you aren't using it for consistent pressure like a dance floor. It does the job. I would have just hated being the one unloading it into that space. Lol
Please tell me where do you find 1/2” OSB. All that is available is 7/16” OSB. DO you source it some where super special? Nobody sells 1/2” OSB. DID YOU KNOW ITS ONLY A DIFFERENCE OF 1/16” of an inch? Do you think it makes that much of a difference? I will tell you there isn’t any measurable structural difference. For those that haven’t worked with this thickness before, you are perfectly fine using 7/16” of an inch because I don’t recommend using 3/4” of an inch because it’s such of an over kill of resources. 3/4” of an inch is used in heavy construction. Unless you are building a commercial building you will not have a need for its structural strength.
Oi! I stand corrected, sir. It is indeed 7/16" material. 1/2" just rolls off the tongue so easily.
Our application for it definitely wasn't structural which was another reason to 'cheap out' and forego the 3/4" sheets. The big beams from the initial construction of the building do the structural/load bearing bit. The OSB was purely about hiding the studs of the partition walls we constructed at the interior and hiding the wind girts at the perimeter walls. Oh, and they make for a handy cavity to hide the insulation and electrical wiring in.
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Not fire rated! Number one reason for Drywall is it's fire rating! Talk to your insurance agent or City Code person first.
That's a really good point, dearborndawg. Thanks for contributing to the conversation here.
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