Repairathon 2022: Trying to repair a Super Socket 7 mainboard.
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- Опубліковано 22 жов 2022
- Continuing my repairathon and in this video it's all about the MSI MS-5169 Super Socket 7 mainboard for AMD K6-2 and K6-3 CPUs.
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Correction: 28:46 Sorry for rendering issues on transitions from this point on. - Наука та технологія
Hi guys, in the end of the video there are quite some rendering issues, which I unfortunately didn't notice :(
Very sorry about that, but YT doesn't allow to replace the video, only to create a new one.
Please remove the black screen transitions between cuts too. It's really annoying.
That's the rendering issues. There were no black screens during the editing, but the rendering went wrong and introduced that jumps and black screens. As I said, unfortunately, I can't fix it anymore, once the video is uploaded. YT allows only to delete the video and upload it as a completely new one.
It was a very entertaining and interesting video. The minor rendering issues didn't bother me. Keep up the great work!
@@necro_ware No worries. Keep it up.
Didn't even notice those, and had to watch back to see what this referred to. Didn't bother a bit! And I learned new stuff, thanks a a lot! :)
I am always blown away by how much work you put into trying to save these boards.
@@sulcusulnaris Its a hobby, done for fun and recreation. Not to be efficient.
@@sulcusulnaris I see it differently. It's a piece of history restored. It might not be something super rare or very special, it's quite a common motherboard, but they are getting less and less common every day.
@@sulcusulnaris Will you wait to stop saving hardware until it is impossible to find working boards? By that time, it will be too late.
ME TOO!!!! This man is a GENIUS!!! GET HIM A BEER!!!!
@@sulcusulnaris If you see full-size socket 7 boards with AGP kicking around in large numbers somewhere... I'd love to see it. Not only are they $250+ if your lucky, they're disappearing daily for those who don't understand the value and recycle them.
It only takes a tiny little speck of solder to cause big problems.
Great video, keep them coming. 👍
It only takes a tiny little speck of [anything] to cause big problems.
It's always fascinating to watch you go through the repair process on equipment like this. I have some older tech, though not quite as old as some of the stuff you feature on this channel; the oldest computers I have are from the era of 1996-1997 and I'm thankful to have not had any major issues with them, aside from one system with an Athlon XP that needs a power supply that I've had some difficulty sourcing due to needing a flexATX type. Absolutely love this channel.
I love those mangled boards, so challenging! And I’ve also recently stumbled into the ‘small speck of solder’ accident too!! Excellent video thank you!
Es gibt fast nichts besseres als ein Necroware Video am Sonntag Nachmittag. Habe selbst das Asus P5A, den Baby AT Bruder P5A-B und meine zwei Lieblinge NMC 5VM5 und QDI Titanium IB. Mit dem Softmenü ist dieses Brett super flexibel. Würde gerne 10 Likes für die Reparatur vergeben, aber das geht leider nicht.
Super Socket 7 is definitely the best platform for a retro machine imo, as you say there's so many options.
i love these types of videos, seeing how to fix the boards, testing them, its always just so interesting! i also collect old tech, well not that old but i have a pentium 3 motherboard, pentium 4 one, and a pretty old agp gpu.
Recently discovered discovered your channel and I'm hooked now, always wanted to know how to repair circuits and motherboards but never had the time/patience/money/tools at the same time to do it, but after starting to work with pcs again maybe soon I'll have it all, and I learn a lot from your videos! Thanks man
I love your videos. Your persistence and patience are amazing.
Nice to see someone repairs stuff instead of throwing it to the garbage
This mobo/CPU Combo was the basis for my first self-build PC back in my early teens. Great to see it featured and repaired here. :)
i was literally checking out your channel 10 minutes before this gone live
it is so funny
Excellent repair! I'm glad that you were able to find and own up to the small mistake you made. I really enjoyed the entire video!
5am, can't sleep, let's enjoy some board repair
Awesome video! Funnily enough, I just did a very similar repair 2 days ago, on an MSI MS-6163 ver 2 Slot 1 motherboard. I replaced two shorted CEB703AL transistors, and then realized that the Semtech SC1153CSW controller was also shorted (a pretty common occurance when the transistors fail short), so I ordered one from eBay. So, I will hopefully be able to finish the job by the end of November. 😀
I'm working on a similar fix too. But in my case, one of the mostfets got so hot that it deaoldered itself enough to shift over. It also fused to the copper layer beneath and burnt the fr4.
What a find this board is! I'm very happy you were able to save it. I look forward to the next installment on this project.
As always, wonderful work. Every time something new and you are sure to make the correct diagnosis, I am delighted! Every video is very informative, thank you very much!
Amazing repairing. Have a very nice time watching, but not as much fun as you. Love your videos and the way you explain everything 🙂
I never thought I will enjoy looking at this repairs. Amazing work.
You are the man! Congratulations on the effort to repair this old motherboard. It sure was a tremendous job. Best regards from Brazil!
Very nice work! Great stuff as usual.
Brilliant - I purchased this board in around 1999 for my K6-III 450Mhz budget build. I used it with a 64Mb DIMM and 13Gb IBM Deskstar from my IBM 6x86L PR200+ system and added a 4Mb ATI Rage Pro AGP card and Soundblaster Vibra card. Used it for CD burning, USB printing and scanning with Windows 98SE.
These types of errors can drive one nuts. Good work & repair
This video helped so much with my first retro repair. I purchased one of these boards new old stock in 2013. By then, it had succumbed to the capacitor plague and blew up both MOSFETs, taking out the SC1152CSW with them just as you had initially suspected. I recapped the board and was able to find an equivalent SC1153CSW. I used two PSMN017-30BL,118 for the MOSFETs. As of yesterday, it's running happily for the first time since it was manufactured!
This was a truly epic repair. Thoroughly enjoyed this video.
Hello Necroware, this is the first video I watched from your channel. I'm surprised about all your knowledge; you earned a thumbs-up and a subscription. I look forward to bettering myself by watching your videos since it is a hobby of mine to try and restore trashed away computers. Keep up the good work👍
A very enjoyable mainboard repair. I really like the basic test equipment, instead of a Fluke. 😎 Thank you.
Beautiful work as always!
I learn so much from your videos! very good, keep up the great work!
Love this video.. like all of them .. could watch them all day
Another fantastic repair video and great explinations a pleasure to watch.
WOW, that was an amazing repair. Maybe you can do a video on Caps some time the Do's and Don'ts I mean. Love the content my friend, God Bless have a good one.
Nice content. Most people will just throw it away. Such dedication to revive old tech is really appreciated.
very awesome repair as always love watching keep it up
Good work there! I think you are too hard on yourself, every time you ask us to spot the mistake, I don't pick it up until you point it out. Appreciate how much effort it must be to cut/edit this, never mind the weirdness with the video, it's still very interesting and informative. Best of all, you resurrected and gave a second lease of life to a really versatile board! Plus, I learned quite a few things along the way which is a bonus. Thanks for taking the time to show us this.
This was a lot of fun to watch. And I think these aging commodity motherboards are worth preserving.
This is awesome. I love watching you figure things out, even if you made it worse in the process!
Excellent video!
Thanks for sharing mistakes! 👍
Yeah, they happen time by time..
Great repair!
Great job, I always wait for your videos, your voice is kind of relaxing
Another board revived from the grave .. Great repair again.. makes me think older hardware was built to last not like things today :)
No, these boards were dying like flies at the time.
Another great repair!
Very nice video! I really enjoyed watching it! 👍👍
Always love seeing respectable tech repaired and cared about ^.^
Congrat's. Nice fix.
You are so good at this and make it look so easy. I have a non-booting Slot 1 board I'm trying to get going and I wish I had even 10% off your skill. I can solder well but that's about it.
Great content. And well done is repairing that board :)
Great fix. 👍 I built my first system around that same MSI board. I still have it and the K6-2 400 it was paired with. 🙂
Good job saving another one destined for the scrap pile! 👍That's a nice motherboard to have. I use a tnt2/voodoo2 and k6-2 500mhz on mine, very flexible machine.
Thank you for the vid. Great way to entertain when doing boring coe cleanup work ;-)
Wow. Found this video by accident and I have this exact board with K6. I think it had some caps blow in past as it wasnt working right back in a day. Great video to look into reviving my old PC
Well done! And can totally relate to missing the obvious. Always have to remind myself of the OSI model. :)
Great job and a entertaining watch, thank you Necroware:)
About the "glass needle"-offspring that you found so annoying, left over by your glass-fiber-pen: Those little guys find a vacuum-cleaner even more annoying;)
Of course, I mean that as a little tip: A small workshop vacuum cleaner, preferably in an antistatic version for electronics technicians and with all sorts of accessories such as brushes and needle-fine suction nozzles, is always very useful. When it comes to cleaning old retro-stuff, vacuuming up oxidized electrolytes/copper, dirt or the liquid and cleaning fumes from e.g. isopropanol. Then such a little helper is immediately of use and at hand. Not only after this nasty stuff has flown or blown through the whole workshop:)
Well, that might be a bit tricky for UA-camrs, so with the noise. But there are also solutions for this. Kind regards and thank you for the heroic rescue of beloved hardware!:)
Great Job. You are a True Professional. Thank you for the Video
Thank you, but I'm not a professional. I'm a software engineer and this is just a hobby :)
Great work. Again. Board is definitely worth saving,
Excellent Video.
Those rubberized abrasive polishing points are really nice.
legendary effort! another necroWIN!
Excellent work !
incredible perseverance!!
Really enjoyable content. Thank you!
Good job, as usual.
Awesome work!
Great success after a long chase...
Great video! Learned a lot, thanks!
As someone with basically no soldering experience, it's mind blowing how easy he makes this look
When I watch these m/b's being fixed -----> 🤩🤩🥳🥳🥳
I use one of those Weller type soldering guns for the tabs on those surface mount power transistor. Works well. The soldering gun does a nice job of removing electrolytic capacitors. The tip is big enough to bridge both capacitor pins at the same time and has enough heat capacity to quickly de-solder the pins without heat soaking the board.
These are great boards! I have the gigabyte model with pretty much the exact same layout (GA-5AX rev 4.1), It's probably just based on a reference design ALi provided at the time. It's running with a K6-III+ clocked at 600mhz, and a geforce 2 ultra graphics card.
BEAST
Impressive, great video.
Nice Job. Thanks for the Video.
I love Super Socket 7. I started to appreciate amd from this platform.
Great stuff, keep it up!
This was mindblowing.
That is a stunning board - that ALi 1541C chipset really is the one for a K6-2 550. I have one myself.
I used to have a K6-2 450mhz, with a Nvidia TNT 2 graphics card, these were great times!
J'adore!
You are definitively a great hacker!
Kiss from France!
ohh, really good! a new video!!!
Always found the music you use dope AF
Well done 👍
Well-saved, again!
I had luck. I found an DFI K6XV3+/66 and it works Well. It Runns with an AMD K6-2 With 550 Mhz.
Thank you for that video.
Another excellent repair video. Your troubleshooting techniques are great, and your honesty about mistakes is refreshing! Too bad you can't get that 30 minutes back. :( Thank you for all of your repair videos.
well done! 💪
exelent work . nice coat!
I've got the same board on my bench. Lots of leaky and bulging capacitors on mine. The seller had video of it working and I verified that myself, but it's waiting on new capacitors to arrive
I love the dejavu edit!
Nice one!
Some thing was going on with your editing towards the end... you were skipping back and forth between scenes and the part that drove me nuts was that the video would go to a black screen between each scene, and this would cause my TV to instantly go into it's energy mode for some reason and turn the back-lights all the way off, but then the black screen would go away and my TV would turn back on.... and it did this a whole bunch of time in a row... I had to get out of full screen for it to stop doing that to my TV LOL
It all started around the time you successfully booted.... just a bit before that.... I'm only telling you so you can diagnose what happened and make sure it doesn't happen again :D
- - - THANK YOU for another AMAZING GRAVEYARD RESTORATION!!!! You have SO MUCH KNOWLEDGE that (lets be honest here) doesn't really have much of a place in the current computer world :( - But this is what I grew up learning... and now that I'm 40 I don't get to put it to use either... so it is REALLY MIND BLOWING to see someone on such a HIGH LEVEL of SKILL, TALENT, and KNOWLEDGE still putting it to good use :)
THANK YOU FOR YOUR VIDEOS!!!! I get excited every time I see your thumbnails!!!!
Yes, I'm very sorry for the issues. Something went wrong with the rendering and I didn't notice it. Unfortunately YT doesn't allow to fix such things, I'd have to delete the video completely and re-upload it again.
Great repair job !
Speaking of super socket 7 I have a similar board (ATX gigabyte with VIA MVP3, so basically the next best choice for this platform), which doesn't turn on, except when I force it with the green wire to ground trick. There it will beep error codes about the RAM (even when RAM is present). I think this board could be saved, but it seems the southbridge is bad, or so have I been told. I checked the power on pins and they go into the southbridge, so that must be true.
Someone salvaged a southbridge for me so I need to check that out now
Good luck with that board. Sound similar to a broken board I have here! FIC PA-2012, IIRC...
It has the older VP3 chipset, so no 100 MHz FSB... But still decent for Socket 7. AGP, ATX format, etc.
Mine also does not turn on unless I short green to black, but even then it doesn't do anything, no POST code. The southbridge (VT82C586B) heats up, but it also heats up abnormally just from +5Vsb with the board "off". The Winbond Super IO also warms up a bit, but I hope it is fine. When I find a broken board with a different defect to salvage the south bridge from or finally place an order on UTsource, hopefully the repair will succeed.
GREAT SUCESS!! HIGH FIVE!!
Отличная платформа, я как-то обходил стороной супер7, предпочитая слот1, ведь они практически ровестники. Правда сейчас очень редки, даже в неисправном состоянии.
This 2.2V thing... Congratulations for your persistence my friend. I am happy you found the problem.
супер атмосфера! шикарная музыка!
старое железо рууулит)
Lovin your retro trouble shooting vids. I have this ga-6bx7 rev.2.4. just don't have the time to fix it atm. I think it's some or a bad cap. This intel mobo has 2 isa 16bit slots with 4 pci and one agp. Awesome board. Have you got this mobo and can you do a breakdown on it pls.
Great Work!
I have your determination but not your skill in electronics.
Maybe if I watch enough of your videos it will rub off onto me.
Thanks for explaining everything so well.
Dave
Great video and awesome rescue operation! What is the tester you used to test transistors and caps?
Search on Ebay or Aliexpress. I boght it long time ago and it was slightly broken.
There are inserts made of brass or steel available for the eraser pen inserts. I prefere the brass ones over the glass brushes. They are not as abrasive but give you much less pain ;).
I have the same board with exactly the same fault. Both transistors are shorted, main capacitors leaked on board. I think that there was some design flaw - when those capacitors lost capacity, there will be voltage pulses and transistors get shorted.
Mad props to you for your dedication to and understanding of these old boards. Also, again, the music is really good. It is made by your brother or something, or did I misunderstand from your last video that that was the case? Does he have his music available on Bandcamp or Soundcloud perhaps?
He has, but his music only tracks are not publicly available, only the albums, which he released with his band before the war. I already made up with him to add those tracks to his bandcamp account, but he is currently going through some hard times, that's why we postponed it a bit. You can find the link to his bandcamp account in the video description.
@@necro_ware So sorry to hear that. I have no problem with buying albums, I like supporting artists if I enjoy their work. I will check out the link. If possible, wish your brother all the best from a fan of his (their) work and may good fortune come his way soon. Thank you.