Reading Mipha's diary just hurts. Imagine being so devoted to confessing your love to somebody and never getting the chance to because you got screwed over by a demonized pool of strawberry jam that can be onshotted with a single arrow.
Personally I think that they would get infinite five star reviews on tears of the kingdom if they just brought Mipha back to life the gameplay could suck and everyone would still give the game five stars
Someone she met when she was an adult and he was a prepubescence kid..... Someone she watched grow up and helped take care of by healing. I'm sorry but the Mipha love story is plan creepy.
@@hmcloud8487 XD I don't even care about ganon right now I'm just running around trying to get all of the DLC stuff my brother bought for me, all the shrines, and maybe all the treasure chest. Once I'm done I'm gonna try and get some cool armor and weapons then go after ganon since idk how hard he is. So zelda is going to have to wait for months/years for me to save her
To be fair, in game, he can barely run either, it might not be skill holding him back. After a hundred years of inactivity and sleep, his muscles just aren't quite what they used to be.
Revali being a jerk in the forest cutscene is hilarious as ever. As a side note, i love that Teba, the only Champion's successor from the future without a direct family connection to the Champions, spends the whole game discovering that the hero of the Rito was kind of an ass.
However, you can still tell that Revali and Teba respect each other. I think for Teba it was more of a humbling experience, learning that his hero was just as much a real person as anyone from his time. "I got to see the real face of the Champion" comes off to me as finding Revali as an equal rather than as a legendary hero. In other words, Teba and Revali are more alike, it's just that Teba has had time to settle down while Revali is still young and has more to learn, as both a person and as a warrior.
The fact that Mipha says "Link, I knew you would come" in Age of Calamity and yet in Breath of the Wild he never came... Breaks my heart. She died probably died hoping he would show up.
I honestly wish we got Link’s thoughts upon reading Mipha’s diary. Imagine reading your childhood best friend had made engagement armour and wanted to propose to you before ultimately dying.
In the Japanese version, the mission descriptions are written in first person, mainly from links perspective. When hes talking about miphas, he tends to trail off and acknowledges that he is her loved one.
@@quantumprodigy9009 IIRC it's kind of a joke in game about how much Link eats and WHAT he can/will eat. In a way you could almost see it as his champion power, along side his time slowing power.
@@mafiyuus I don’t know if anyone else noticed this, but when link gets electrocuted in AoC he makes the same sounds as he does in skyward sword, weird huh?
In the japanese version of the game, where mission descriptions are written from links personal pov ,link writes "Illuminating in the light of the Luminous stones, Mipha's figure was even more beautiful than usual...". (for AoC)
She’s more the cool aunt figure. She was friends of the late Queen after all. She cares for Zelda much like her mother. She got to know her and Zelda did open up to her with her insecurities first.
@@RandoGrunt time to sell all my material belongings and sacrifice maidens to the calamity to get the money and skill to craft the perfect meal for this bimbo
I like how Daruk instantly gets whats going on with mipha and link and acts as a wingman (or rather a rockman) for Mipha, also are we sure Mipha didn’t propose to link? We don’t see the end of their “conversation” in Mipha’s Touch, the armor itself is measured exactly to link so it would be hard for mipha to measure him unless he knew about it and we only get the cutscene when we have the armor while staring at Mipha’s statue.
@@YaBoiL0721 Rockman is the Japanese version name for Megaman. Rockman - Megaman Blues - Protoman Forte - Bass Gospel - Treble Rightot - Auto Rockman X - Megaman X Irregular - Maverick Icy Penguigo - Chill Penguin (X1) Frame Stuggard - Flame Stag (X2) Shining Tiguard - Neon Tiger (X3) Magmard Dragoon - Magma Dragoon (X4) Burn Dinorex - Mattrex (X5) (Almost ALL the Irregulars/Mavericks got name changes, not sure with X6, X7, or X8) And there's others.
If Link just accepted anyone who proposed to him he’d be married to like everyone in hyrule edit: not me just realizing how many likes and comments dis got 🤦♀️
Link comes into Riju's room: Riju: HOW MANY TIMES DO I HAVE TO TELL YOU TO KNOCK? Link: Sorry! Riju: DID YOU SEE ANYTHING? Link: No ma'am! I didn't see you playing with your Sand seal again. Riju: Good!
Honestly, by the time you got to Mipha, I could care less who he was in love with, as I was far more fascinated by all the stuff you dug up about Link’s burden with being the destined hero, and becoming stoic and selectively mute in trying to bottle that stuff up. I never even knew these diary entries you referenced existed. Amazing stuff.
Pretty sure the champion diaries are from the DLC but zeldas diary is near one of the memories (the one in hyrule castle) it’s in a tower on the west side
BOTW Legend of Zelda: A game with teleportation, time-freezing, reverse aging, and plasma lazer technologies Zelda Theorists: Lets theorize about link's girlfriends
In AoC the Japanese phrasing of Links thoughts on the Zora armour parallels the Japanese phrasing of Miphas thoughts in her diary on her proposal. ‘Is it alright to accept this?’ and ‘Is it alright to give this?’. To me this indicates that the two are on the same wavelength, wanting to be with each other but ironically insecure as to whether they should or can be.
@@Punched0 mainly cause he has amnesia so he wouldn't truly understand mipha. He's not the same link so of course he would wonder if it's okay for him to have something as precious as that. I'm her case she was wondering out of love but links was out of uncertainty. Two completely different situations
@@Alli_B96 Honestly it doesn’t who he knows more what matters is that your comfortable, link obviously is comfortable with zelda he even tells Zelda about his worries and why he isn’t able to talk
@@Zeldom Y'know I'm not entirely sure lol. Dude works really hard - you can't become the land's greatest warrior without giving up a lot. And for what? To make one of the most difficult choices possible where he definitely hurts someone he's close to in order to love the other? Doesn't sound that lucky to me. "spoiled for choice" is a fantasy when you don't consider that you might be hurting people you care about by choosing one over the other...
@@r2020E I mean sure lol But in all seriousness most folks aren't confident enough for polygamous relationships. It's easy to feel like they're asymmetric, and to feel like you might be less loved than the other partner. Sexy in theory, stressful in practice IMO. Much more interesting in porn than real life.
I'm late, but before finishing the video this is my thoughts: I have always loved Mipha, I found her to be a sweetheart and an incredibly selfless character. I think that if time did play out naturally she and Link would have been a lovely couple. However, since she died, I believe Mipha and Link would have both have had time to heal from the loss, and she would want him to be happy. I believe Link and Zelda end up together and love each other dearly, but Link never forgets his dear friend and first love, as well as Zelda missing her too. Mipha was very close to the both of them. I ship ZeLink in the manner that does not disrespect their late friend, but honors her memory while they remain happy. I like to think that, just like during her monologue, Mipha looks down upon them and feels joy, having had all that time to heal and come to terms I say this because a lot of times I've seen people interpret it as a Mipha vs Zelda competition for not just Link's love but his respect. And I really think it doesn't mean one or the other necessarily. God, I love these characters.
I know! They are all so beautifully written. Also, i completely agree. I think Link and Zelda will end up together but will always have guilt for the loss of their loved ones.
Thank you!!! yes!!! Im a HUGE botw/totk zelink shipper myself, but there's no denying that Link cared deeply for both of them. I don't see why it has to mean one way or the other. Since Link's relationship with both of the girls are so valid in their own ways, not to mention that it's definitely not a case of Zelda vs Mipha, since they are both friends too.
You know, I can imagine some of the conversations Link and Zelda had after Breath of the wild. Z: I can't believe you read my diary! L: I lost my Memories! And while we're throwing blame around, you tried to make me eat a FROG! Z: It was for SCIENCE! And you eat EVERYTHING! Suddenly *that* was out of the question!? L: Those things give people warts, and you wanted to put it in my Stomach? Z: STOP YELLING AT ME! L: YOU STARTED IT! Love is a beautiful thing, isn't it?
@@alchemysaga3745 That doesn't make any sense; it's not like there's something stopping Sidon from trying to get with Link. He doesn't have a "boss". Also, they literally explained in the video that Sidon didn't have any love interest in him. I'm all for LGBT, but y'all ship 2 straight males together for no reason bruh. Please don't. Half of the people shipping Link and Sidon are literally weeb white girls who have barely played the game.
There's also a mission in Age of Calamity where it requires Mipha, it's called Heart's Escort where one of the First Clear Rewards is the Armor that Mipha made for Link. I see this mission as Mipha finally giving Link his Armor she made for her. I prefer Mipha-X-Link in Age of Calamity but Link-X-Zelda is probably the best bet for Breath of the Wild.
That's true. Like I said in other comments I doubt the side quests and missions are actually part of the story. There's 2 messages on the loading screens that lead me to think that only the main story is canon.
@@Zeldom Not even the loading screens. The game tells you that the battlefields are from other worlds, which is why you get the ethereal stones from them.
@@Zeldom it only means they fight ouder Dimension. I think "the other World" is BotW's Timeline, wich means she should be dead as this Sidequest appears in the Postgame.
I absolutely hate that people write off Mipha and Link because Mipha will outlive him” a lot of marriages end like that. You aren’t expected to die with your partner. UNTIL DEATH DO US PART
I really think the only trouble that stopped miphlink in BOTW was Mipha's death, as we know Link spent too much time with Zelda but that was mostly for his duty to protect her. Although, we know Link didn't have much free times but every time he had the chance he tried to visit Mipha voluntarilly, despite the times they had together was only few, those moments were special like the one where Link saved Mipha from a lynel and also not all Link's visits were mentioned at all like the ones about Kodah and others. Even Sidon conffesses that he was jealous of Link because he thought Link wanted to steal her sister and another zora says something similar that sometimes it appeared that Link wanted to steal Mipha, I still wonder how Mipha got the exact measurements of Link, in addition from the DLC, Mipha asks Link if he remembers what happened between them 100 years ago following by the question about if he knows why that zora armour fits him so perfectly, then she says there are a lot of things she wants him to remember but sadly those memories are gone of his mind, so I think they could easily be a couple before calamity. There are more details I can mention but I'm very sure that Link would accepted Mipha's proposal if she didn't died and now he barely remembers her. She was about to propose to Link after the calamity and I'm very sure they could be together as a couple if it wasn't by Ganon's fault..
I agree for the most part. Link and Mipha were still good friends in botw before she died, but I think the events led Link to grow away from Mipha while she was trying to hold on to him. It's truly sad, but I think Age of Calamity reverses that and made MiLink very likely.
@@Zeldom I like to think MiLink got together in aoc timeline and Zelink got together botw time. it makes perfect sense. I also think both Mipha and Zelda deserve to have a chance with the one they have sacrificed pretty much everything for.
@@thatguywithanumbrella Zelink in both timelines. The relationship between Mipha and Link was too underdeveloped in AoC and Zelink has way more development in AoC than MiLink. Even tho this isn't a reason, who would want to marry a GODDAMN FISH! More or less a watered down version of Undyne from Undertale
@@undeadhoundoom3263 Mipha is more like a humanoid with fish traits. Honestly after seeing Sonic (an antropomorfic hedgehog whose head as big as his body) getting into a romance with a human girl, Link falling in love with Mipha doesn't seem weird at all.
@@undeadhoundoom3263 aoc development for Milink is the same from botw. Childhood friends, then obvious feelings. Both ships are strengthened by the aoc timeline changes. With Link being more open and not as silent, as well as Zelda being more open and not so jealous. Narrative development doesn't change what we already know however, Zelink can easily be platonic in both timelines. And Mipha has no reason not to propose to Link in aoc timeline. She was planning on doing it after the group visited the spring of wisdom, the day of calamity and zelda's birthday in botw timeline. Mipha most definitely would have proposed thanks to her survival in aoc timeline. Why would Link say no? Mipha is a childhood friend he deeply cares for that he will take any chance he can off duty to spend time with. Just for a romance with the princess that develops over a few months comparatively in a narrative about her unlocking her power which is triggered by love and care... why? It also makes Zelda look selfish and full of herself if you think she would get between them when Mipha just got there first. True love doesn't steal, it earns. There are plenty of fish in the sea and Zelink can be platonic just fine as well as Milink. No pun intended since you think liking fish people is so weird, even though the idea of mermaids have been existing forever. Zelink has worked countless times platonically with just as much power and success defeating ganon before. There is nothing that suggests their love and care has to be romantic in order for their power to be just as strong. I'm a major Zelink shipper. But c'mon, Mipha clearly put all her heart into into Link and sacrificed everything for him. And Link clearly cares for her. It's just a matter of fact that in aoc timeline Mipha would have gotten to him first with a sweet engagement. It would be a pretty sour if he just turned her down after them all almost getting killed and losing everything. Though if you want to believe Zelink simply has more chemistry and Link just has fallen in love with Zelda so much he just couldn't marry Mipha, so be it. I just don't see why their has to be a competition on Links heart like there "has" to be in the real world. People can love multiple people at once without it leading to cheating and complications. Link clearly loves both women and has the right to choose of course, but when you love two people, naturally your bound to pick the one who calls first unless polyamory is involved. .... Also how you got Undyne from Mipha is beyond me. The only thing they even have in common is they are both fish people and care a lot about the ones they love, those traits don't make people copies of each other.
We need to bring back friendship ships. I love the idea of link being like a big brother to Riju way more than I like their romance. And I love the idea of Sidon and Link being like brothers. Basically becoming brothers in law despite Mipha’s death
@@spidergoat533 haha your most likely to old to date a fictional person I said most likely because I do not know you therefore I have no right to assume your age so I did not say a specific age I merely said you are most likely too old to date a fictional character made by Nintendo and I hope you aren't angry at me for not saying a specific age
It's not an open mouth smile or anything, but it's a small grin which is FAR more expressive than Botw where his face literally never changes unless he's cooking food
@@Zeldom actually, there are easily missable parts of botw where link shows expression, like the when lasli tells him that he’s “totally my type”. Link actually reacts with a bashful grin. Also, when Sidon greets Link at Zora’s domain, he grins and waves- he’s a bit far away, though, so you barely see it happen
As you said, Mipha dying was as definite as it can be. Before her death there's enough evidence to ship them, but alas her death is permanent in that timeline. I agree with all of that. However, I also think that part of what makes TLoZ so great is leaving plenty of space for people to fill gaps. For example using those alternative sidequests as "windows" to AU's, or figuring out actions that the characters probably did as narrated by NPC's (such as Sidon telling Link he stole Mipha). Great analysis. I do agree with you: No calamity = Link x Mipha. Calamity happened and so Mipha died= Link x Zelda. I do prefer Milink, but I prefer TLoZ style and leave the choice up to us. Love your content!
@@Zeldom By the way! there is something very important that I think basically confirms everything you say. In the book "creating a champion" the developers of BoTW explicitly say that Mipha's relationship with Link started to become so intense, they made her shy and quiet. They needed to tone her down a lot in order to balance things out. That fits perfectly with what you said about Mipha being too passive... it was on purpose. Mipha with the personality of Ruto would have make the ship with Link almost inevitable. And we know the big N doesn't like that on TLoZ. Which, to be honest, I'm glad they did. It makes Mipha more interesting
@@ernestoosuna4594 I actually came across that recently while reading through the book, but I don't know why that didn't click for me. Thanks for pointing that out!
@@Zeldom All in all, even though I am a big Miphlink fan, I do prefer how things turned out in BoTW (well, I don't like Mipha's death, but that's what it is). Link's tragic life and his duties pushes him forward. He eventually remembers a big deal about her, but unfortunately forgot probably the most important "details" as she mentions in a dialogue. A childhood-lifetime friends that Link loses, is a trope present in TLoZ in the past... and it is normally important for Link's development. That was the case here too and I really enjoyed how they crafted their relationship. And of course, thanks for AoC where Mipha is alive and that relationship isn't impossible, so my headcannon stays the same haha
My heart wishes there was extra dialogue between Mipha and Link if he was wearing the armor after her spirit was free 🥺 something like, “I’m glad the armor fits, the time was worth it. I’m glad we can spend time even if it’s in this way.”
A point for Prince Sidon: Link has amnesia when he enters Zora’s domain and doesn’t initially remember Mipha at all. Instead he meets Sidon who’s so happy to see him and instantly latches onto him. It must have been odd and intimidating when he first met Doraphon and everyone was telling him how he was meant for Mipha, who at that stage he doesn’t remember. It must have been an emotional time visiting Zora’s domain, and Sidon’s unfailing belief in Link must have been a comfort.
I dunno why, but Riju just seems like a perfect little sister. As an only child, I have never truly gotten to experience a relationship with someone similar to that which siblings share, but Riju gives me an idea.
my theory is that link actually spent a lot of time in zora's domain with mipha between like 4-10 years old and then just stopped going for reasons (probably because he went to the junior knight academy or something like that - considering that he's like seventeen in BotW and he already had a lot of sword experience, i wouldn't be surprised if they started this early) and he didn't saw mipha until he was like 15 also that would explain his more serious personality after growing up, he's been in the military since he was around 10 and there is a lot of pressure around it so he probably changed because of it
They are so cute I love them! I’m also a Mipha and Link shipper because omg mipha loved him so much and link clearly thought she was pretty and probably had feelings for her too
It really is a shame with Mipha. I feel like she's actually a great fit. She has genuine love and concern for him, and was willing to put him first. I get Zelda does the same thing, but it was after being forced together and shipped by a mutual friend. Mipha and Link are honestly such a tragic love.
I can't get behind Mipha because the game makes it clear she was an adult while Link was a kid and watched him grow up and helped care for him when he was a kid. and that's at best accidental grooming.
I remember playing the game and reading Mipha's diary, seeing that she was going to propose then later the calamity killed her and she never had the chance made me cry.
@@dugonman8360 Actually I'm very sure fictitious love stories don't lead by who is thiccer, so either Mipha or Zelda can be love interests for Link despite their different bodies. And I don't think in Hyrule, zoras or other races are seen like animals like our real life ideologies do. Anyway, if all these comments are just for fun let me tell you to stand behind Mipha's statue at zora's domain and you'll get a different way to think about Mipha ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)
Legend of Zelink: Breath of the Waifu - Ship of Calamity. In a massive plot twist, the entire calamity was a massive plot to get Zelda and Link together.
I love that moment when link pulls the master sword in AoC and just glares at Astor Like he may be silent but "try that again ***** I dare you" was fully conveyed
Is it just me or is “silent princess” describing the bond in Link and Zelda? Silent would refer to Link and how he never speaks, and princess referring to Zelda
One of my favorite things that you didn't mention was in the last cutscene for The Champions Ballad, where they're taking the picture. If you look at Mipha you can see her slowly scooching her way over to Link, in an attempt to get closer to him.
I like to think Link x Mipha is a thing in Age of Calamity specifically because it's not in Breath of the Wild. I mean it's only fair, Zelda shouldn't have Link in *both* timelines. Also I just want a timeline where Link & Sidon are brothers.
Mipha's story is so sad, at least in Breath of the Wild. I feel like it's more likely that Link ends up with Zelda (I mean Mipha is dead after all) but I would have loved to see Link with Mipha. Hopefully we get to see more of both ZeLink and MeLink in the Breath of the Wild sequel.
Way I see it, Mipha was the bigger contender for Link's heart in both games, especially given how much time is implied that Link spent in Zora's Domain, however upon the death of Mipha and through all the shared trauma Link and Zelda get put through, in addition to both being some of the only eligible single people that remember the Hyrule before Ganon and inside each other's visible age bracket/species and size then they're without a question going to be a match. That being said had Mipha survived then she'd be Links biggest match. Basically Zelink is canon over Miphas dead body.
41:02 that's my favorite cutscene in Age of calamity, Zelda is getting attacked, Teriko tries to save her and link just YEETS Teriko away. Absolutely hilarious
I agree with you saying Zelda for Breath of the Wild and Mipha for Age of Calamity. Zelda was much closer with Link in Breath of the Wild due to bonding over the burdens that they both have been carrying for years, which was not present in Age of Calamity and it's why they don't feel quite as close in that game. Sure they're friends but I don't think their relationship could go beyond that in Age of Calamity without the development they had in Breath of the Wild. As you said, Link is more attentive of Mipha in Age of Calamity and Mipha's dialogues in missions with Link have more of a romantic tone compared to Zelda's. Another reason on why I say Mipha for Age of Calamity are Sidon and King Dorephan's respective dialogues to Link in Breath of the Wild: "Had things turned out differently, you might have been my sister's husband...my brother-in-law..." - Sidon "A Zora princess falling in love with a Hylian swordsman... It reminds me of a Zora legend of old. That is why I welcomed the idea of you and Mipha becoming husband and wife. It is a shame you two never had the chance to see what might have been..." - King Dorephan Maybe it's just me wanting Link and Mipha to be a thing in Age of Calamity since it couldn't happen in Breath of the Wild due to her death. Sidon and King Dorephan would also be happy to have Link be part of the family and Mipha deserves a happy ending.
I couldn't agree more. I wish I remembered about that quote from Dorephan. I totally would have included that since he makes it sound like he believes Link had some degree of romantic interest in Mipha as well and that he may have accepted in Botw.
@@Zeldom i think Link would of accepted Mipha if it wasn't with the fact he lost most memories of their time growing up togeather and the fact she had died when they found each other again.
I feel like Link loves Mipha in Aoc because like you said in the Zora's domain mission, instead of staying with Zelda while talking with king Dorephan, he is with Mipha, in NBC's video when the calamity strikes and they are all in danger link wants to stay and help fight with the king instead of getting Zelda away from the castle but the king has to remind link of his duty to protect Zelda and tells them to run, and for the hearts escort mission can be interpreted from multiple perspectives, his initial hesitation can be because he knows how Zelda feels about him but he really cares about Mipha more.
I don't like to include the heart's escort mission since I doubt any of those side missions are actually part of canon. I'm pretty sure just the main story is canon
I agree whole heartedly, plus in botw I noticed that unlike with the other memories he sees, links chosen memory of Mipha was one where they were together with her healing him and him, looking into her eyes as she surges that they spend some time together (quite a romantic scene) when it's all over, rather than talking about the war like the other characters, she talks about him, and it's all triggered, not by seeing an object or a place where the memory happened, but just by seeing her face in the form of her statue, and when the zora king, or Sidon, or even Mazu talks about his possible love or marriage to mipha, he makes no effort (in hand gestures or otherwise) to correct them of this. Plus when it comes to Zelda and Link I really don't see it, yes they clearly have a unique bond, but I more see that as the type of bond long lost siblings have when they reconnect again, which makes sence as their destiny's are so similar and they are both reincarnations of two people who have been closed throughout history. Not to mention the fact that they look so similar in appearance (in most reincarnations) that they could practically be twins. Seriously its kind of creepy Probibly another reason I don't ship Zelink? Or Linda?...😂Linda!!! 😂 How's that for a ship name
I see a lot of comments which make me curious because from what I notice Mipha is played up as more romantic in English than in Japanese from what I see. So I just wanted to point some things out and some arguments I have seen. I'm not trying to rain on anyone's parade but if we look at the Japanese version of the game it's very different. Mipha doesn't say "Perhaps we can spend more time together" in a romantic way in Japanese. She says that perhaps Link could visit more. This is a very different context. Because it implies what we know that he had been getting more distant. In English it's way more romantic sounding and suggests they are already spending time together and now they get alone time. Also not to crush anyone hopes and dreams but the Japanese word for "someone special" is taisetsuna hito and it is not neccesarily romantic. It means precious, important person. But it can apply to someone's best friend, comarade in battle, or even grandmother, anyone really important. Basically Mipha doesn't need to be dating Link to be called this. We get told they grew up together, we get told they are close we get told he will be there for her. She is definitely someone special and that's enough to be reffered to like this. But she can be that even if he just sees her platonically as his very best friend too. And lastly the unrequited girl who sacrafices herself for her love is one of the most popular Japanese tropes. The connection between Ruto who is unrequited and Mipha shows this is where our minds are going. At least in Japanese as Ruto's legend is the reason she gets the courage to him the armor. Unbeknownst to her Ruto was rejected. So this is not the best sign. The "Mipha over me" thing happened when Link was younger. This is another common trope with little kids the girl tells her crush to choose her over someone else. Because she has a crush on him. Usually her crush is oblivious. It does not matter if her crush actually likes the other girl or not because the focus is the girl's feelings. Which confirms she indeed has feelings for her crush and the other girl is somehow important to her crush. So this is used to tell us Mipha is important to Link and set that up as his taisestu na hito but it still does not imply anything about his feelings as I said she COULD still just be his best friend and that's why his other friend sees her as a rival . Finally I think it's not surprising the English version seems to give Mipha more romantic words than the Japanese because most JRPGs do this. But in Japanese most of these things are very subtle and Mipha is shown to be shy so it's unlikely she is saying that because she is dating Link or is flirting even if she does like him. She is just happy to spend time with him. So the romance is definitely played up in English. While in Japanese she is framed more like an older sister or best friend than a love interest. How romance is presented in JP media is NOT the same way it is outside Japan. In Japan, it's usually more toned down and doesn't typically involve the bold romance and big dramatic mutual confessions we are used to in the West. In fact confessions like Mipha's are typically part of unrequited love girl tropes...so...yeah. It does seem harsh and sad. We get attached to a character and we want to see them happy not get their heart broken. I think localizations do consistently play up love interests and love triangles for this reason. Especially in the case of unrequited love characters. But the unrequited love girl is supposed to be seen as the most selfless love and it's considered sweet for her to not get the guy but love him forever anyway. Mipha fits this trope to a T. But this is not something we are used to seeing in the west so putting that in the English version would come off as too harsh. So I do think they were trying to make Mipha look like she had more hope than she does in the original, in the localization... And of course the story should not just flat out reject her like Ruto, so the original gave her a sweet story and showed how important she is to Link. Even though it's supposed to be tragic. Ship whatever you like but I think these are things to keep in mind during these debates. That said I think Mipha and her story are very sweet and I would love to know more about how things go for her after AOC whether she gets with Link or not because she is awesome on her own. Hopefully we get something. ~KS
These are excellent cultural points, thank you for pointing this out. I have seen these same tropes in anime and manga and it's one of the reasons why I see Mipha as a mother/sister figure to link as well. Just like Urbosa is Zeldas mother figure. Regardless, ship away peeps 👌🏻
Another thing to keep in mind is that yes the localization team not only translates, but re-interprets and even slightly rewrites some parts for the sake of... well, localization... It's important to keep in mind that translating the Japanese version to English will have different context and may use language that may seem to carry a different meaning, but we have a much different culture than the Japanese and our uses of similar terms may have different meanings. I think Link visiting more is basically an equivalent to 'spending more time together' if we think of it in terms of literal meaning. When Mipha says 'spend more time together' basically would mean him spending more time at the domain. The Japanese version still has basically the same context towards Link. But I agree that the evidence that Link feels mutually in Breath is definitely FAR weaker than the material I discussed for botw. Age of Calamity would make MiLink a bit more sense, but I mainly chose that since ZeLink was much weaker, no because MiLink got stronger.
@@Zeldom I think that makes sense. Even saying all that it would have been nice to see her actually give him the armor in the story itself. I like Mipha and it's such an important moment so for better or worse they should have at least gone all the way and made it a proper cutscene. Even if it ended in rejection it would be nice to see her character development and courage and if it ended in marriage then she gets a happy ending. But I do still think they were just trying to not have Mipha's route be too similar to Ruto's. Honestly it would have made me mad had they just made her Ruto 2.0. So I'm so glad they give her her own unique sweet story plus she gets treated so fondly by Link in both games. That's the same reason why the just randomly getting the armor with no cutscene feels kinda messed up to me. But oh well, it would be nice to see more of her just as a character. Because both girls have so much more going for them than being a love interest. Can't wait to see what they do with this story!
@@catalyst2034 Thanks, yeah it's something I think we just have to keep in mind with these things but I do think the Mipha/Link ship is super sweet and refreshing. Whether it's canon or not shouldn't matter. I think their story is beautiful whether it be mutual, or her selflessly loving him and I love the way it's told in BOTW. I don't like how they make her just Zelda's rival in AOC and her proposal doesn't even get a proper cutscene but seeing Mipha alive and happy still wins points in my book.
@@KageSakura yeah I agree. Having them be rivals just seems so wrong to me. Especially since after you release Miphas spirit from her divine beast, she keeps her distance, out of respect and tells Link to save the princess. I feel that like Paya, if Mipha was aware that Link had feelings for Zelda, she would prioritize his happiness over her own and support his decision to be with her. That is part of the tragedy of her character and why I respect the Mipha ship, even if I dont agree with it. 👍🏻
Supposedly Riju is "around" 12. I had the sense she gets a crush on Link, which isn't that strange considering he is probably the only young man she has ever met apart from her father. That and Link is a legendary hero.
Yeah, I read that in Creating a Champion a couple days before this went live... oh well. To be fair though the only source that claims this is a quote from one of the artists in the book. Wasn't even a lead artist. Developer intent doesn't mean something else can't pertain to the lore and the fact that only a single artist said she's 12 makes it possible that can vary, though it does make alot of sense. In that case they would have to be much older for Riju and Link to get together
Entering the Zora domain for the first time after awakening and remembering all that once was always struck me as sad. It must have been heartbreaking for Link.
Yeah a second meaning I've seen and that makes a lot of sense is that hope. In Age of Calamity there's that quick shot I mentioned of the flower right before they go back to seal the calamity. That sudden blossoming could be a symbol foreshadowing their victory and that the people of Hyrule have united together to bring enough hope to conquer the calamity
maybe it's a sign of percistance? it may be an endangered species but it's held off extinction for who knows how long and maybe the sign of love is a symbol for your persistence for your desire to be with someone coming through.
A good point for you did you know that when you complete Heart's escort quest where Mipha has to save Link from an Hinox and after you get the Zora armor, Zora armor's description in French tells "do we really have the right to wear it?". As the meaning of the original Japanese sentence "Is it really OK to wear it?" is difficult to grab, I think French wording can indicate the spirit of this sentence. It's possible that as Link is a simple knight and Mipha a princess, he feels insecurities or not worthy of wearing the Zora armor. It would echo his insecurities in BOTW. It's my personal interpretation of it.
I honestly feel like it was meant to be Milink if Ganon hadn’t won the first time, simply due to all the evidence and prior history they had together, and that Milink history was further solidified in AoC, so I think it’s Zelink for BOTW, and Milink for AoC.
This theory is pretty weak, let's be honest. Just because TP Link was a farmer, doesn't mean that Malon was his maternal descendant as he's the only Hylian in Ordon. Either TP Link was adopted or his parents moved to Ordon prior to having him, but sadly perished when he was young.
In AoC, the gal who makes the first move wins. Mipha had an entire marriage proposal prepared, plus a childhood friendship with Link, while Zelda had nothing. Mipha wins
what if link decided not to speak to mipha about his problem because he cared for her and didnt want to involve her in it because he didnt want her to worry
For the BotW one. I think it's a case that Mipha and Link were friends and there was affection there, but Link ended up distancing himself from Mipha. He still sees her as a friend, but he's too wrapped up in his own stuff to see her as more than that. For Zelda, she somehow slipped past his guard as he saw her as a kindred spirit. But I definitely agree with you for the Warriers timeline. It's interesting to see how people change and the relationships we might take if a few things change.
Plot Twist: - Terrako was a MiphaxLink shipper. So when he used his time travel powers and saw Mipha’s demise, he was like “Oh hell nah”. Not only going back in time to alter the events of the Great Calamoty, but sending help to the Champions long enough for Link to rescue them. Thus ensuring Mipha’s survival.
28:56 the Music for Divine beat Vah Ruta actually unlike it's other counter parts gets more ominous as the dungeon goes on. potentially symbolizing Mipha's anxiety that Link might be Killed by water blight, just like she was. or maybe anticipating link's reaction to her death. I'm pretty sure anyone dead would want to see the reaction of something they loved to their death. lol imagine if they didn't care about the dead person how heart breaking that'd be.
@@thelastpagan4999 Oh hell, naw. The last time we had a new Ganondorf, we got Four Swords Adventures. Not even Breath of the Wild knows what to do with Four Swords Adventures on the timeline. Hell, Four Swords Adventures probably comes after Breath of the Wild.
Riju is about 12. You've got to remember that her people are tall. Just because she looks close to the same height as Zelda from the flashbacks doesn't mean they are about the same age. She's just a kid.
I'm totally honest here If I was Link I'd choose Mipha I don't even care that she's a Zora She's so sweet and wholesome Her voice actress also did a great job in giving her a personality And the way she slowly moved closer to Link when they took a group picture just to stand besides him on it So cute! Plus of course everything said in this video I must add that the fact that she couldn't propose to him before she died to Ganons Watercurse and also what she says when you free her spirit. That she just wished to see Link once more and that she can rest in peace now. It broke me it really did
Link and Zelda being in love is, as far as I'm concerned, a core part of the series. Courage, sacrifice and love overcoming evil, even if they can't be together they will always be drawn to each other each time they are reincarnated.
They're supposed to fight evil together but actually they've been romantically involved in very few games. Skyward Sword yes but in Twilight princess they barely interact, in Ocarina of time he is with Malon...
No to be honest in most games in the series, Link and Zelda only worked together, they rarely become close, let alone fall in love, since Zelda is a princess and Link is only a knight. In Skyward Sword though Zelda is his childhood friend and it's pretty clear they are in love.
My first Zelda was windwaker when I play it in my dads GameCube ages ago Such a good game I quite like the design of toon link, too bad he’s the worst link in smash so I Main Young Link instead, though I did spend hours learning bomb combos for adult link to realise he was slow and I preferred young Link
I’ve been waiting for part 2 of this for so long, and it did not disappoint! I’m a full supporter of MiLink, but I agree with your belief that it wouldn’t work in BoTW. The thing is, Riju, Zelda and Mipha are the only actual ships. The rest of them were all just for the meme. You did so well on this, and I can’t wait for part 3!
Thanks I'm glad you liked it! I'll make sure it's not another 4 months until the next. Plus the others will be shorter since I won't be jamming them into one video. Paya is also a legit one. I didn't know until afterwards that Riju is 'supposed' to be 12 from Creating a Champion/Masterworks. It is important to keep in mind that the quote was from one of the artists, not even the lead character designer so whether that is accurate in the lore is debatable.
I personally think that mipha is links true love for one reason in the final battle with Ganon in age of calamity you can hear bits of mipha song from her level can be heard.
One thing in Aoc that may hint at Link and Mipha getting together is that the second phase of the final boss theme is pretty much a rearrangement of Mipha's theme.
My personal interpretation: BotW and AoC are two parallel universes. In BotW Link has been known as the hero since he was 12, in AoC the kingdom never bloody figured it out until the calamity is at their doorstep. *This changes absolutely everything.* in botw's timeline, Link's early reveal as the hero thrusts him into a life of discipline and unwanted fame. He was a kid! He followed in his dad's footsteps and trained to be a knight like him, and he WAS exceptional, but he had no idea what the world's got in store for his ass. Him pulling out that sword at 12 didn't just get him into the military, it drew him away from travelling hyrule with his father (and thus straining his friendship with mipha) and probably exposes him to court life and life as a public figure in general. That is a LOT to put on a kid, and he shuts down over the years, going selectively mute. Thus, shared burden, yadda yadda, personal knight spends all his time with Zelda and seems to only ever opened up to her about his personal thoughts, died and came back to life a more talkative person (because memories are gone, yes this is in the masterworks) -> bam, "I wish to see her smile again with my own eyes" Meanwhile in AoC, he was just a knight. A very talented one yes, but one of many. The whole time, just living his life on track as he always thought it would. His dad was a knight, he trained to be a knight, and now there he was. Wondering where the hell the hero is like anyone else. This for one, gives him a few extra years with Mipha as he enlisted older (and got normal soldier duties and off days). As you said, Mipha seems more confident when interacting with Link in this game, too. So up until he pulled the master sword in this timeline he had absolutely no reason to hang around Zelda at all, and didn't share her great burden because he was literally some guy. She never initially resented him because well he never did anything wrong. Or anything at all. They're just immediately cool with each other. So yeah no trauma due to massive burden, no spending time with Zelda, no "oh shit I was being a jerk to him I will make up for it" + Mipha's friendship being more certain this time around -> "Mipha's figure is even more beautiful than usual." 'Nuff said. Funnily enough, the Pot Lid Incident that made Link the princess' personal knight is different, too. In botw she was watching regular guardian testing when they accidentally caused a malfunction and the guardian fired off. Link apparently took a pot lid and deflects the beam protecting Zelda, and this was so damn impressive the king was like "yeah okay you follow her around now". Meanwhile in AoC, he protected her while on duty from a genuinely malicious guardian. :p
9:29 I always put Riju's trust in Link being more a result of her having been told stories about him growing up and though that, knowing he is trustworthy. Plus a bit of hero worship.
Mipha is the best, she cared for him even in death...zelda took way too long to come around to him even though he did so much for her. Classic anime trope of the childhood friend vs the current love interest
Imo when I read the conversations between Riju and link it felt way more like a sibling relationship, as in Riju sees link as kind of an older brother kinda figure. I feel like that would fit more and is also quite wholesome
What about the memory in botw where Zelda is entrusting the master sword to the great deku tree? If the great deku tree didn't cut off her message to Link, I'm confident she would have said something like "tell Link I love him".
I think even in BotW Mipha and Link’s relationship was a bit more serious than you’re maybe implying. The Zora Armour may be just one piece of evidence but it’s some pretty big evidence of something fairly mutual I feel. You don’t generally prepare to propose to a crush
thats what i thought immediately too "wait, were they already dating or not?" because I read that after seeing something about her having feelings for him from sidon, and that usually implies that they werent already dating, but i think they were secretly dating, at least sidon didnt know about it, so it makes sense.
@@-letspretendidontexist-8479 if she wanted marriage they were probably already dating, as you suggest by “wanting to jump straight to marriage” don’t you think they would have at least talked about it? And as she says in an ending after fighting waterblight ganon in the champions ballad dlc “do you remember what happened between us 100 years ago? do you know why the zora armor fits you so perfectly? I truly hope you remember, if you do not… I suppose it cant be helped. As for me, I will never forget” so obviously SOMETHING regarding the zora armor that is given to a zora princesses future husband, not really saying if it is as a marriage proposal or as a wedding gift thing, which implies very strongly that link reciprocated her feelings towards him.
@@-letspretendidontexist-8479 point 3 can easily be disproven if they had not told anyone else, the zora for the most part were very racist to hylians. And “do you know why that zora armor fits you so perfectly” after asking about memories very much implies he had known something about the armor at the time. And telling him directly that they were dating is risking an overload of information. And why would something like that be added to the English version when the English version is known to hide any form of proof of shipping, they would more likely censor that than add it. Though I have no access to the Japanese version, I bet there is something that proves my point that at least link knew about her feelings for him.
I think Mipha and Link were absolutely dating, but then Link pulled the Master Sword and everything changed. Maybe I’m completely wrong, I have no idea. That’s just how I’ve always seen it
@@seograt963 keep in mind that a loading screen message while the main story hasn't been completed says that Terrako somehow opened an alternative dimension or something which allows for the trainings to exist. I HATE that message and that's not an exact quote, but that's the jist of it. I think it would've just been better of to not address it in the game and let us interpret whether the side missions are canon or not, but they basically confirm from that message that they are not
@@Zeldom Fair point. But... I forgot that Terrako can LITERALLY summon people from different times at anywhere it wants? So why couldn’t it just time-travel Link into an alternate time, where he could train?
i think it's worth mentioning that mipha tried to give zelda advice about how to unlock her power- i always assumed that it had something to do with love, since we only ever see mipha using her power to heal link, and zelda using hers to save him.
Reading Mipha's diary just hurts. Imagine being so devoted to confessing your love to somebody and never getting the chance to because you got screwed over by a demonized pool of strawberry jam that can be onshotted with a single arrow.
Personally I think that they would get infinite five star reviews on tears of the kingdom if they just brought Mipha back to life the gameplay could suck and everyone would still give the game five stars
@@magmawarlord9992 that would be too far reach, but I do hope so too..
Mipha deserved better
This was very sad 😢
Poor Mipha
Someone she met when she was an adult and he was a prepubescence kid.....
Someone she watched grow up and helped take care of by healing.
I'm sorry but the Mipha love story is plan creepy.
@@EighmyLupin the zora have diffrent againg. It is weird, but she's like around his age in her terms.
Link: "I want to save her as quickly as possible"
Me: "Hold up zelda let me go get all of these shrines and hidden treasure chests first."
I mean
I dont know if you tried defeating ganon with a spoon yet but
Id like to be stacked before saving the world XD
*REVS UP CHAINSAWSWORD*
@@hmcloud8487 XD I don't even care about ganon right now I'm just running around trying to get all of the DLC stuff my brother bought for me, all the shrines, and maybe all the treasure chest. Once I'm done I'm gonna try and get some cool armor and weapons then go after ganon since idk how hard he is. So zelda is going to have to wait for months/years for me to save her
@@spiritsong4026 Is Zelda still waiting?
Don't forget the God damn Korok Seeds
You’ve been waiting for a hundred years surely you can wait for me to get every collectible first right Zelda?
You’d think with as much time Link spent in Zora’s Domain he’d be able to FRICKIN SWIM FASTER!!!!!
To be fair, in game, he can barely run either, it might not be skill holding him back. After a hundred years of inactivity and sleep, his muscles just aren't quite what they used to be.
@@leonbyrne1927 well that explains why he moves so fast in age of calamity
or to dive ):
He swims better than most of us prolly . Like I don’t think he’s Michael Phelps or whatchumacallim. He probably just rode Mipha 😳🤨
@@vora300 yep
Zelda and urbosa: having a deep chat about not comparing yourself to others
Meanwhile Daruk to Link: EAT THE ROCK! EAT THE ROCK!
Meanwhile Revali to Link: WHATS WRONG? CANT FLY?! CANT TALK TO A GIRL?!
@@Cell_reverted_egg CAN'T TALK?
@@rubbegameing5370 More like Nintendo wants to keep their legacy of the silent warrior
@@Cell_reverted_egg “NO WINGS?” “NO BITCHES?”
Legit average girl friends vs average bros
Revali being a jerk in the forest cutscene is hilarious as ever. As a side note, i love that Teba, the only Champion's successor from the future without a direct family connection to the Champions, spends the whole game discovering that the hero of the Rito was kind of an ass.
However, you can still tell that Revali and Teba respect each other. I think for Teba it was more of a humbling experience, learning that his hero was just as much a real person as anyone from his time. "I got to see the real face of the Champion" comes off to me as finding Revali as an equal rather than as a legendary hero. In other words, Teba and Revali are more alike, it's just that Teba has had time to settle down while Revali is still young and has more to learn, as both a person and as a warrior.
lol ikr
and this is why you should never meet your childhood hero kids
"I bet if u put down those maracas you'd make it out without a sound
Lmao literallyyyy! Also I don't belive Riju and Urbosa are actually related by blood. As far as we know Urbosa never mentioned any children =[
The fact that Mipha says "Link, I knew you would come" in Age of Calamity and yet in Breath of the Wild he never came... Breaks my heart. She died probably died hoping he would show up.
Well at least it was a quick death with her getting stabbed in the back
She actually says that to him in vah ruta
She was like dude what took you so long er I mean I knew you'd come.
The whole BotW/AoC story is so heartbreaking
@@EdAteABalloon In vah ruta I thought that was Zelda too but I found out later that it was actually Mipha's voice they sound really similar
Urbosa: ships ZeLink
Daruk: ships MeLink
Am I the only one who would want to see these two argue about their OTPs?
That would be an awesome debate!
botw impa just walks in but ends up joining the debate
Revaly: ships Link and the Bench
@@guedesbrawlfor one, its Revali, for two, could you please explain which bench?
Lmao yes
I honestly wish we got Link’s thoughts upon reading Mipha’s diary. Imagine reading your childhood best friend had made engagement armour and wanted to propose to you before ultimately dying.
Also if you re fight Waterblight she straight up tells Link to not read it
Might accept, might reject because if the weight of his duty
Link doesn't wanna marry a fish
In the Japanese version, the mission descriptions are written in first person, mainly from links perspective. When hes talking about miphas, he tends to trail off and acknowledges that he is her loved one.
@@jameskozy7254 Why not? That fish is hot and has a wonderful personality. A fish is fine too.
Link has two Princesses who are in love with him. That dude's lucky
His pull game is crazy. He doesn't even try
He can only have one per timeline though.
@@goroakechi6126 well link from ocarina marries the farm girl
a true chad!
And if you really think about it Paya is next in line for the Shika, that kinda makes her a princess.
Urbosa: Zelda's wingman
AoC Deruk: Mipha's wingman
Revali: I hate all of you
Theory : revali hates link because link gets all of the b*tches and he doesn’t
“hate you… hate you both”
@@sentientmustache8360 "that's it killing you both"
@shunra cringe
@@mihaimercenarul7467 Cringe.
Imagine all those beautiful girls falling for Link, and then he suddenly speaks and has the "EXCUUUUUSE ME PRINCESS" voice and personality.
lmao
Lmfao
“OH BOY, SMOOCHING TIME!!!”
Oh BoY! smOOcHIng TiMe
I LOLed very quietly, its midnight
43:45 i love this cutscene because Zelda is being so serious and comparing herself to Link and then Link is just over there eating rocks
Wait foreal? I haven't played AoC yet
Link eats rocks twice is AoC and it is my favorite thing in the entire world.
@@quantumprodigy9009 IIRC it's kind of a joke in game about how much Link eats and WHAT he can/will eat. In a way you could almost see it as his champion power, along side his time slowing power.
I feel bad for link when he gets man handled by the fairies. I mean, the guy just wants his upgrades
if it was me I'd be okay with it..it has been 100 years after all 😂
I don't mind the 1st and 2nd upgrade but the 3rd and final upgrade is just too far
I mean, sex is cool, but have you ever heard of *Set Bonus Upgrade?*
I know. He works his butt off getting those star fragments and Lynel parts just so he could get dragged underwater by a giantess
@@BigHuskyGG Imagine spending 100 years in a private spa like Link and not missing anything
I asked him why he barely spoke. He finally opened up and said "hyup HYAA!"
Pfff..u deserve a like
HYAAA (that's thank you in Linkish)
@@Zeldom Huo hyah yaaah hyah hyaaaaaa hup yaah hyah hyah uh yaah hyah? Yaah hyah hup yaah huo yaah hyah!
I feel so fokn ennerved by this because Link confirmly talks onscreen since OoT as yes and no got Dynamcly replaced by Synonyms on Ocasion
@@mafiyuus I don’t know if anyone else noticed this, but when link gets electrocuted in AoC he makes the same sounds as he does in skyward sword, weird huh?
In the japanese version of the game, where mission descriptions are written from links personal pov ,link writes "Illuminating in the light of the Luminous stones, Mipha's figure was even more beautiful than usual...". (for AoC)
DAMN LINK A FREAK FR FR
@@Punched0 luckily for him, Mipha likes freaky.
@@pokemonfanmario7694 it's always the shy/quiet ones who are the freakiest.
I know that from experience!
I know this was unrelated but anybody else confused with why Mipha was made so much shorter than all the other characters in AOC?
@@SmeargleStuff maybe Zora females are just overall shorter?? Idk, probably just a design choice. It feels weird to imagine Mipha any taller
Urbosa's role in all of this honestly feels like a mom who's trying to get her daughter with the guy she approves of.
She’s more the cool aunt figure. She was friends of the late Queen after all. She cares for Zelda much like her mother. She got to know her and Zelda did open up to her with her insecurities first.
@@acgearsandarms1343 Fair.
Urbosa is the cool lesbian aunt
@@Acornsgo😂
Everybody asks who loves link but nobody asks who link loves
I cyr evytm
We all know that it's food. Give him food and he'll love you forever!
@@RandoGrunt time to sell all my material belongings and sacrifice maidens to the calamity to get the money and skill to craft the perfect meal for this bimbo
lik dis if u cri evrtim
He says her name every day.
HYUP HYAAH
I like how Daruk instantly gets whats going on with mipha and link and acts as a wingman (or rather a rockman) for Mipha, also are we sure Mipha didn’t propose to link? We don’t see the end of their “conversation” in Mipha’s Touch, the armor itself is measured exactly to link so it would be hard for mipha to measure him unless he knew about it and we only get the cutscene when we have the armor while staring at Mipha’s statue.
Me too. I loved their interactions
So hes Megaman now?
I’m sorry what? I never played the games so I don’t get the reference
Quite the matchmaker, yeah.
@@YaBoiL0721 Rockman is the Japanese version name for Megaman.
Rockman - Megaman
Blues - Protoman
Forte - Bass
Gospel - Treble
Rightot - Auto
Rockman X - Megaman X
Irregular - Maverick
Icy Penguigo - Chill Penguin (X1)
Frame Stuggard - Flame Stag (X2)
Shining Tiguard - Neon Tiger (X3)
Magmard Dragoon - Magma Dragoon (X4)
Burn Dinorex - Mattrex (X5)
(Almost ALL the Irregulars/Mavericks got name changes, not sure with X6, X7, or X8)
And there's others.
If Link just accepted anyone who proposed to him he’d be married to like everyone in hyrule
edit: not me just realizing how many likes and comments dis got 🤦♀️
Facts! He can have anybody he wants...
No, if Nintendo did this then they would do everyone BUT Mipha, Sidon and Zelda just to piss off most of the shippers
@@michaellogozzo2073 Sidon deserves best than better so he must have greater link
Link the harem protagonist
Everyone knows it's only midna
Link comes into Riju's room:
Riju: HOW MANY TIMES DO I HAVE TO TELL YOU TO KNOCK?
Link: Sorry!
Riju: DID YOU SEE ANYTHING?
Link: No ma'am! I didn't see you playing with your Sand seal again.
Riju: Good!
Ayy, spaceballs reference
you have no door riju
Riju: .....WAIT A DAMN MINUTE
Honestly, by the time you got to Mipha, I could care less who he was in love with, as I was far more fascinated by all the stuff you dug up about Link’s burden with being the destined hero, and becoming stoic and selectively mute in trying to bottle that stuff up. I never even knew these diary entries you referenced existed. Amazing stuff.
Ikr?
Pretty sure the champion diaries are from the DLC but zeldas diary is near one of the memories (the one in hyrule castle) it’s in a tower on the west side
He forgot the infamous Get Laid% for Paya.
Dang u right...
Forgot abt thattt
Oh god yes
honestly I mean they did sleep together soooo 🤷
That's a real category? Dang.
BOTW Legend of Zelda: A game with teleportation, time-freezing, reverse aging, and plasma lazer technologies
Zelda Theorists: Lets theorize about link's girlfriends
also how dare there be a train in zelda
These are the important things.
@@Nbjk01 spirit tracks > OOT
I have thoroughly analyzed your criticism and find it invalid.
@@donweatherwax9318 who?
Zelda: Link, you must hurry.
Link: no *proceeds to get 100% in-game*
MUST....GET....KOROK SEEDS
@@SpartanFore fr bro
Goes into real-estate. Gotta buy a house. Build a town.
In AoC the Japanese phrasing of Links thoughts on the Zora armour parallels the Japanese phrasing of Miphas thoughts in her diary on her proposal. ‘Is it alright to accept this?’ and ‘Is it alright to give this?’. To me this indicates that the two are on the same wavelength, wanting to be with each other but ironically insecure as to whether they should or can be.
Interesting observation!! Will steal!!
@@cardboardking577 Hoho! You can't steal it when I am giving it for free!
That seems kind of like a stretch?
@@NuiYabuko Really why?
@@Punched0 mainly cause he has amnesia so he wouldn't truly understand mipha. He's not the same link so of course he would wonder if it's okay for him to have something as precious as that. I'm her case she was wondering out of love but links was out of uncertainty. Two completely different situations
The only characters that are explicitly in love with Link are Mipha, Zelda, and Paya, in the order that he meets them.
There's many others that have suggestive lines, but yeah those are the ones that are obviously in love with him
Actually no he met Mipha way before Zelda I believe I could be wrong tho 🤷🏽♀️
@@Alli_B96
I got the order right; he met Mipha as a child, Zelda possibly around his teenage years, and Paya after the Slumber of Restoration.
@@Alli_B96 Honestly it doesn’t who he knows more what matters is that your comfortable, link obviously is comfortable with zelda he even tells Zelda about his worries and why he isn’t able to talk
he met / encounter's mipha while on his way to the castle - swimming
"Like 80% of the other characters in the game" a the beauty of being the main character lol
Lol he's a lucky dude
I wish all the NPCs around me were programmed to be attracted to me
@@Zeldom Y'know I'm not entirely sure lol. Dude works really hard - you can't become the land's greatest warrior without giving up a lot. And for what? To make one of the most difficult choices possible where he definitely hurts someone he's close to in order to love the other?
Doesn't sound that lucky to me. "spoiled for choice" is a fantasy when you don't consider that you might be hurting people you care about by choosing one over the other...
@@monsieurdorgat6864 solution: polygamy lmfao
@@r2020E I mean sure lol
But in all seriousness most folks aren't confident enough for polygamous relationships. It's easy to feel like they're asymmetric, and to feel like you might be less loved than the other partner.
Sexy in theory, stressful in practice IMO. Much more interesting in porn than real life.
I'm late, but before finishing the video this is my thoughts:
I have always loved Mipha, I found her to be a sweetheart and an incredibly selfless character. I think that if time did play out naturally she and Link would have been a lovely couple. However, since she died, I believe Mipha and Link would have both have had time to heal from the loss, and she would want him to be happy. I believe Link and Zelda end up together and love each other dearly, but Link never forgets his dear friend and first love, as well as Zelda missing her too. Mipha was very close to the both of them.
I ship ZeLink in the manner that does not disrespect their late friend, but honors her memory while they remain happy. I like to think that, just like during her monologue, Mipha looks down upon them and feels joy, having had all that time to heal and come to terms
I say this because a lot of times I've seen people interpret it as a Mipha vs Zelda competition for not just Link's love but his respect. And I really think it doesn't mean one or the other necessarily.
God, I love these characters.
I know! They are all so beautifully written. Also, i completely agree. I think Link and Zelda will end up together but will always have guilt for the loss of their loved ones.
@shunra right of course, Kass is the final word on how people he never knew who lived 100 years before his time feel about each other.
@@maddoxwilton4134 well i mean there’s a lot of things that suggest it, kass’s teacher is just another apple in the basket
Thank you!!! yes!!! Im a HUGE botw/totk zelink shipper myself, but there's no denying that Link cared deeply for both of them. I don't see why it has to mean one way or the other. Since Link's relationship with both of the girls are so valid in their own ways, not to mention that it's definitely not a case of Zelda vs Mipha, since they are both friends too.
You know, I can imagine some of the conversations Link and Zelda had after Breath of the wild.
Z: I can't believe you read my diary!
L: I lost my Memories! And while we're throwing blame around, you tried to make me eat a FROG!
Z: It was for SCIENCE! And you eat EVERYTHING! Suddenly *that* was out of the question!?
L: Those things give people warts, and you wanted to put it in my Stomach?
Z: STOP YELLING AT ME!
L: YOU STARTED IT!
Love is a beautiful thing, isn't it?
I laughed so hard from this. Thank you😂
@@Zeldom My pleasure my man.
True for zelda bc Zelda said this will be for the perfect study and zelda said taste it when she grabbed the frog
Well excuuuuuse me princess
oh imagine how that conversation would go if link mentioned he read the king’s diary
Man I feel so bad for Mipha. Literally ready to propose, but her boss swept in and took her lifelong friend/love.
F.
Yeah, and then she dies. I'm sad, but at the same time AoC makes MiphLink possible and that makes me very happy.
#MiphLink
I bet her brother wasn’t far either
@@milfhunter6881 ...? what, Sidon isn't even dead.
@@cashwin45 Think they mean that Sidon wouldn't have been far off from going for Link if Mipha had chose not to.
@@alchemysaga3745 That doesn't make any sense; it's not like there's something stopping Sidon from trying to get with Link. He doesn't have a "boss". Also, they literally explained in the video that Sidon didn't have any love interest in him. I'm all for LGBT, but y'all ship 2 straight males together for no reason bruh. Please don't. Half of the people shipping Link and Sidon are literally weeb white girls who have barely played the game.
There's also a mission in Age of Calamity where it requires Mipha, it's called Heart's Escort where one of the First Clear Rewards is the Armor that Mipha made for Link. I see this mission as Mipha finally giving Link his Armor she made for her. I prefer Mipha-X-Link in Age of Calamity but Link-X-Zelda is probably the best bet for Breath of the Wild.
That's true. Like I said in other comments I doubt the side quests and missions are actually part of the story. There's 2 messages on the loading screens that lead me to think that only the main story is canon.
@@Zeldom what messages are those?
@@Zeldom Not even the loading screens. The game tells you that the battlefields are from other worlds, which is why you get the ethereal stones from them.
@@Zeldom it only means they fight ouder Dimension. I think "the other World" is BotW's Timeline, wich means she should be dead as this Sidequest appears in the Postgame.
Tbh I honestly don't care about the shipping I just want the timeline to not be shitty and actually be straight forward for once.
Mipha: "I_if you find my diary... Don't you dare read it Link!"
Link and Sidon: *We're gonna do what's called a pro gamer move*
She’s no longer around to stop them.
💀💀💀💀💀
Ultrahand time
I absolutely hate that people write off Mipha and Link because Mipha will outlive him” a lot of marriages end like that. You aren’t expected to die with your partner. UNTIL DEATH DO US PART
FACTS
Yeah, I entirely agree, I still like zelda though... cause, y'know
*looks at her ass*
R e a s o n s
Hold it, hold everything! Purah figured out how to reverse aging so technically for time and all eternity.
@@baronvonpandavi2423 She did but given the result in BOTW. the result in AoC will lead to baby Mipha and probably Fetus Link lol.
Yep, zoras and gordons live a long time
I really think the only trouble that stopped miphlink in BOTW was Mipha's death, as we know Link spent too much time with Zelda but that was mostly for his duty to protect her. Although, we know Link didn't have much free times but every time he had the chance he tried to visit Mipha voluntarilly, despite the times they had together was only few, those moments were special like the one where Link saved Mipha from a lynel and also not all Link's visits were mentioned at all like the ones about Kodah and others.
Even Sidon conffesses that he was jealous of Link because he thought Link wanted to steal her sister and another zora says something similar that sometimes it appeared that Link wanted to steal Mipha, I still wonder how Mipha got the exact measurements of Link, in addition from the DLC, Mipha asks Link if he remembers what happened between them 100 years ago following by the question about if he knows why that zora armour fits him so perfectly, then she says there are a lot of things she wants him to remember but sadly those memories are gone of his mind, so I think they could easily be a couple before calamity.
There are more details I can mention but I'm very sure that Link would accepted Mipha's proposal if she didn't died and now he barely remembers her. She was about to propose to Link after the calamity and I'm very sure they could be together as a couple if it wasn't by Ganon's fault..
I agree for the most part. Link and Mipha were still good friends in botw before she died, but I think the events led Link to grow away from Mipha while she was trying to hold on to him. It's truly sad, but I think Age of Calamity reverses that and made MiLink very likely.
@@Zeldom I like to think MiLink got together in aoc timeline and Zelink got together botw time. it makes perfect sense. I also think both Mipha and Zelda deserve to have a chance with the one they have sacrificed pretty much everything for.
@@thatguywithanumbrella Zelink in both timelines. The relationship between Mipha and Link was too underdeveloped in AoC and Zelink has way more development in AoC than MiLink. Even tho this isn't a reason, who would want to marry a GODDAMN FISH! More or less a watered down version of Undyne from Undertale
@@undeadhoundoom3263 Mipha is more like a humanoid with fish traits. Honestly after seeing Sonic (an antropomorfic hedgehog whose head as big as his body) getting into a romance with a human girl, Link falling in love with Mipha doesn't seem weird at all.
@@undeadhoundoom3263 aoc development for Milink is the same from botw. Childhood friends, then obvious feelings. Both ships are strengthened by the aoc timeline changes. With Link being more open and not as silent, as well as Zelda being more open and not so jealous.
Narrative development doesn't change what we already know however, Zelink can easily be platonic in both timelines. And Mipha has no reason not to propose to Link in aoc timeline. She was planning on doing it after the group visited the spring of wisdom, the day of calamity and zelda's birthday in botw timeline.
Mipha most definitely would have proposed thanks to her survival in aoc timeline. Why would Link say no? Mipha is a childhood friend he deeply cares for that he will take any chance he can off duty to spend time with. Just for a romance with the princess that develops over a few months comparatively in a narrative about her unlocking her power which is triggered by love and care... why? It also makes Zelda look selfish and full of herself if you think she would get between them when Mipha just got there first. True love doesn't steal, it earns.
There are plenty of fish in the sea and Zelink can be platonic just fine as well as Milink. No pun intended since you think liking fish people is so weird, even though the idea of mermaids have been existing forever.
Zelink has worked countless times platonically with just as much power and success defeating ganon before. There is nothing that suggests their love and care has to be romantic in order for their power to be just as strong.
I'm a major Zelink shipper. But c'mon, Mipha clearly put all her heart into into Link and sacrificed everything for him. And Link clearly cares for her. It's just a matter of fact that in aoc timeline Mipha would have gotten to him first with a sweet engagement. It would be a pretty sour if he just turned her down after them all almost getting killed and losing everything. Though if you want to believe Zelink simply has more chemistry and Link just has fallen in love with Zelda so much he just couldn't marry Mipha, so be it.
I just don't see why their has to be a competition on Links heart like there "has" to be in the real world. People can love multiple people at once without it leading to cheating and complications. Link clearly loves both women and has the right to choose of course, but when you love two people, naturally your bound to pick the one who calls first unless polyamory is involved.
....
Also how you got Undyne from Mipha is beyond me. The only thing they even have in common is they are both fish people and care a lot about the ones they love, those traits don't make people copies of each other.
We need to bring back friendship ships. I love the idea of link being like a big brother to Riju way more than I like their romance. And I love the idea of Sidon and Link being like brothers. Basically becoming brothers in law despite Mipha’s death
Haha yeah. Sidon and Link. Friendship. Friendship with Fish Husband. Good.
also, isnt riju more like 12 years old
Plus, their is a four year difference, since riju is confirmed to be twelve, and pre-calamity link is 16
@@spidergoat533 haha your most likely to old to date a fictional person I said most likely because I do not know you therefore I have no right to assume your age so I did not say a specific age I merely said you are most likely too old to date a fictional character made by Nintendo and I hope you aren't angry at me for not saying a specific age
don't forget Ravioli and tone deaf knight rivalry
Sidon and Link definitely have a bromance and I’m all for that.
link has bromance with lots of people
@Tblazer hid literal special ability in AoC is boundless optimism. You can't get more gigachad than that
Sidon is the definition of a himbo
@@Elden-Bearkass is up there
Well had Mipha survived and they got married, he would have been links brother in law
Zeldom: He gives her a smile
Link: :|
It's not an open mouth smile or anything, but it's a small grin which is FAR more expressive than Botw where his face literally never changes unless he's cooking food
@@Zeldom Link and Food ship?
@@michaellogozzo2073 100% :)
He did like a :| :/
@@Zeldom actually, there are easily missable parts of botw where link shows expression, like the when lasli tells him that he’s “totally my type”. Link actually reacts with a bashful grin. Also, when Sidon greets Link at Zora’s domain, he grins and waves- he’s a bit far away, though, so you barely see it happen
As you said, Mipha dying was as definite as it can be. Before her death there's enough evidence to ship them, but alas her death is permanent in that timeline. I agree with all of that. However, I also think that part of what makes TLoZ so great is leaving plenty of space for people to fill gaps. For example using those alternative sidequests as "windows" to AU's, or figuring out actions that the characters probably did as narrated by NPC's (such as Sidon telling Link he stole Mipha). Great analysis. I do agree with you: No calamity = Link x Mipha. Calamity happened and so Mipha died= Link x Zelda. I do prefer Milink, but I prefer TLoZ style and leave the choice up to us. Love your content!
Thank you :)
@@Zeldom By the way! there is something very important that I think basically confirms everything you say. In the book "creating a champion" the developers of BoTW explicitly say that Mipha's relationship with Link started to become so intense, they made her shy and quiet. They needed to tone her down a lot in order to balance things out. That fits perfectly with what you said about Mipha being too passive... it was on purpose. Mipha with the personality of Ruto would have make the ship with Link almost inevitable. And we know the big N doesn't like that on TLoZ. Which, to be honest, I'm glad they did. It makes Mipha more interesting
@@ernestoosuna4594 I actually came across that recently while reading through the book, but I don't know why that didn't click for me. Thanks for pointing that out!
@@Zeldom All in all, even though I am a big Miphlink fan, I do prefer how things turned out in BoTW (well, I don't like Mipha's death, but that's what it is). Link's tragic life and his duties pushes him forward. He eventually remembers a big deal about her, but unfortunately forgot probably the most important "details" as she mentions in a dialogue. A childhood-lifetime friends that Link loses, is a trope present in TLoZ in the past... and it is normally important for Link's development. That was the case here too and I really enjoyed how they crafted their relationship. And of course, thanks for AoC where Mipha is alive and that relationship isn't impossible, so my headcannon stays the same haha
Who knows?
BotW 2 might have Link and Zelda gathering the Triforce and bringing back everyone who was killed in the Great Calamity.
My heart wishes there was extra dialogue between Mipha and Link if he was wearing the armor after her spirit was free 🥺 something like, “I’m glad the armor fits, the time was worth it. I’m glad we can spend time even if it’s in this way.”
Ik... they leave us hanging showing their relationship exists, but not showing us hardly any of their actual interactions :(
@@Zeldom :( right cmon Nintendo! Please!
Ikr. I'm so glad I'm not the only person who thinks this
@@heroofangst Right, I still wish for just a little more dialogue.
This comment broke me a little bit, jesus
A point for Prince Sidon: Link has amnesia when he enters Zora’s domain and doesn’t initially remember Mipha at all. Instead he meets Sidon who’s so happy to see him and instantly latches onto him. It must have been odd and intimidating when he first met Doraphon and everyone was telling him how he was meant for Mipha, who at that stage he doesn’t remember. It must have been an emotional time visiting Zora’s domain, and Sidon’s unfailing belief in Link must have been a comfort.
Also all the old Zora's being mad at Link and blaming him for Mipha's death when he doesn't even remember
Sidon is married
@@ReadilyAvailibleChomper currently
@@laravioliiii2832 how desperate are you to watch link kiss the fish man
@@ReadilyAvailibleChomper yes
I dunno why, but Riju just seems like a perfect little sister. As an only child, I have never truly gotten to experience a relationship with someone similar to that which siblings share, but Riju gives me an idea.
Riju is way too calm to be a good little sister.
my theory is that link actually spent a lot of time in zora's domain with mipha between like 4-10 years old and then just stopped going for reasons (probably because he went to the junior knight academy or something like that - considering that he's like seventeen in BotW and he already had a lot of sword experience, i wouldn't be surprised if they started this early) and he didn't saw mipha until he was like 15
also that would explain his more serious personality after growing up, he's been in the military since he was around 10 and there is a lot of pressure around it so he probably changed because of it
Im personally a big fan of Zelink because of those botw animations made by shar, they're just so damn cute
Ye
Personally don't ship it but I totally agree!
Right?! I've never shipped anyone but when it comes to Link and Zelda I cant help myself!!!
They are so cute I love them! I’m also a Mipha and Link shipper because omg mipha loved him so much and link clearly thought she was pretty and probably had feelings for her too
My shipping for zelda typically goes with the zora love interest, and if that doesnt go well return to zelink
It really is a shame with Mipha. I feel like she's actually a great fit. She has genuine love and concern for him, and was willing to put him first. I get Zelda does the same thing, but it was after being forced together and shipped by a mutual friend. Mipha and Link are honestly such a tragic love.
yes!
100%
I see zelda more as the annoying sister that grows on you.
@@sup1602 Hm, I can see that. I suppose my view of their relationship is a bit tainted from decades of people shipping them haha.
I can't get behind Mipha because the game makes it clear she was an adult while Link was a kid and watched him grow up and helped care for him when he was a kid.
and that's at best accidental grooming.
I remember playing the game and reading Mipha's diary, seeing that she was going to propose then later the calamity killed her and she never had the chance made me cry.
The one thing we do know officially about link and his love life is, he's definitely a Butt guy.
I mean look at where he stares when Paya bends over... pure facts
@@Zeldom just saying it obviously wasn't miphas bust that made link taste some spicy tuna, she was as flat as a fish.
Very true. Zelda would be the winner of the 'thiq' contest
@@dugonman8360 Pfft! Well Link is certainly a man of culture.
@@dugonman8360 Actually I'm very sure fictitious love stories don't lead by who is thiccer, so either Mipha or Zelda can be love interests for Link despite their different bodies. And I don't think in Hyrule, zoras or other races are seen like animals like our real life ideologies do. Anyway, if all these comments are just for fun let me tell you to stand behind Mipha's statue at zora's domain and you'll get a different way to think about Mipha ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)
Legend of Zelink: Breath of the Waifu - Ship of Calamity.
In a massive plot twist, the entire calamity was a massive plot to get Zelda and Link together.
XD I wish
Mind = blown
Master Kohga and Sooga were really onto something huh
Zelda ended up with terrako instead
We’ll get more zelink action in botw2 since mipha is dead meat 😌☕️👌✨
I love that moment when link pulls the master sword in AoC and just glares at Astor
Like he may be silent but "try that again ***** I dare you" was fully conveyed
Yes
@@shunra3978bro has a good sense of D U T Y
Is it just me or is “silent princess” describing the bond in Link and Zelda? Silent would refer to Link and how he never speaks, and princess referring to Zelda
OMG secret unleashed
Yeah I'm pretty sure it's a mix of "the silent knight" and "the divine princess."
Literally was thinking the same thing today
mipha is a princess aswell, checkmate
@@wackyanimations3326 yes but Mipha didn’t have any interest in plants and Zelda did meaning the flower is supposed to represent Zelda. Checkmate.
One of my favorite things that you didn't mention was in the last cutscene for The Champions Ballad, where they're taking the picture.
If you look at Mipha you can see her slowly scooching her way over to Link, in an attempt to get closer to him.
I like to think Link x Mipha is a thing in Age of Calamity specifically because it's not in Breath of the Wild.
I mean it's only fair, Zelda shouldn't have Link in *both* timelines. Also I just want a timeline where Link & Sidon are brothers.
Yeah I think it would also be cool for Link and Sidon to be brother-in-laws
I like that, milink is probably my favorite ship
@@astral_void6010 I prefer the ship name ‘Lipha’
@Vihaan Reddi as a German i disaprove because "mief", wich is pronounced just like Miph, is a Term in Germany to describe a very bad smell.
@Vihaan Reddi do what you like, i actully surpressed a laughter to not wake up my Family over here were it's Night right now 😂
Mipha really grew to my heart as a character. Going to her statue in totk with her theme playing made me literally tear up from missing her.
Mipha's story is so sad, at least in Breath of the Wild. I feel like it's more likely that Link ends up with Zelda (I mean Mipha is dead after all) but I would have loved to see Link with Mipha. Hopefully we get to see more of both ZeLink and MeLink in the Breath of the Wild sequel.
Exactly my feelings
Way I see it, Mipha was the bigger contender for Link's heart in both games, especially given how much time is implied that Link spent in Zora's Domain, however upon the death of Mipha and through all the shared trauma Link and Zelda get put through, in addition to both being some of the only eligible single people that remember the Hyrule before Ganon and inside each other's visible age bracket/species and size then they're without a question going to be a match. That being said had Mipha survived then she'd be Links biggest match.
Basically Zelink is canon over Miphas dead body.
Lol quite literally XD
@@Zeldom hi
Silent Princess is the best ship name for Zelink ever
i agree.
I object : Linda
@@SomeCertainMycorian 💀
41:02 that's my favorite cutscene in Age of calamity, Zelda is getting attacked, Teriko tries to save her and link just YEETS Teriko away. Absolutely hilarious
I agree with you saying Zelda for Breath of the Wild and Mipha for Age of Calamity. Zelda was much closer with Link in Breath of the Wild due to bonding over the burdens that they both have been carrying for years, which was not present in Age of Calamity and it's why they don't feel quite as close in that game. Sure they're friends but I don't think their relationship could go beyond that in Age of Calamity without the development they had in Breath of the Wild.
As you said, Link is more attentive of Mipha in Age of Calamity and Mipha's dialogues in missions with Link have more of a romantic tone compared to Zelda's. Another reason on why I say Mipha for Age of Calamity are Sidon and King Dorephan's respective dialogues to Link in Breath of the Wild:
"Had things turned out differently, you might have been my sister's husband...my brother-in-law..."
- Sidon
"A Zora princess falling in love with a Hylian swordsman... It reminds me of a Zora legend of old. That is why I welcomed the idea of you and Mipha becoming husband and wife. It is a shame you two never had the chance to see what might have been..."
- King Dorephan
Maybe it's just me wanting Link and Mipha to be a thing in Age of Calamity since it couldn't happen in Breath of the Wild due to her death. Sidon and King Dorephan would also be happy to have Link be part of the family and Mipha deserves a happy ending.
I couldn't agree more. I wish I remembered about that quote from Dorephan. I totally would have included that since he makes it sound like he believes Link had some degree of romantic interest in Mipha as well and that he may have accepted in Botw.
@@Zeldom i think Link would of accepted Mipha if it wasn't with the fact he lost most memories of their time growing up togeather and the fact she had died when they found each other again.
well put and on point
I feel like Link loves Mipha in Aoc because like you said in the Zora's domain mission, instead of staying with Zelda while talking with king Dorephan, he is with Mipha, in NBC's video when the calamity strikes and they are all in danger link wants to stay and help fight with the king instead of getting Zelda away from the castle but the king has to remind link of his duty to protect Zelda and tells them to run, and for the hearts escort mission can be interpreted from multiple perspectives, his initial hesitation can be because he knows how Zelda feels about him but he really cares about Mipha more.
I don't like to include the heart's escort mission since I doubt any of those side missions are actually part of canon. I'm pretty sure just the main story is canon
Exactly
I agree whole heartedly, plus in botw I noticed that unlike with the other memories he sees, links chosen memory of Mipha was one where they were together with her healing him and him, looking into her eyes as she surges that they spend some time together (quite a romantic scene) when it's all over, rather than talking about the war like the other characters, she talks about him, and it's all triggered, not by seeing an object or a place where the memory happened, but just by seeing her face in the form of her statue, and when the zora king, or Sidon, or even Mazu talks about his possible love or marriage to mipha, he makes no effort (in hand gestures or otherwise) to correct them of this.
Plus when it comes to Zelda and Link I really don't see it, yes they clearly have a unique bond, but I more see that as the type of bond long lost siblings have when they reconnect again, which makes sence as their destiny's are so similar and they are both reincarnations of two people who have been closed throughout history. Not to mention the fact that they look so similar in appearance (in most reincarnations) that they could practically be twins. Seriously its kind of creepy
Probibly another reason I don't ship Zelink? Or Linda?...😂Linda!!! 😂 How's that for a ship name
I see a lot of comments which make me curious because from what I notice Mipha is played up as more romantic in English than in Japanese from what I see. So I just wanted to point some things out and some arguments I have seen.
I'm not trying to rain on anyone's parade but if we look at the Japanese version of the game it's very different. Mipha doesn't say "Perhaps we can spend more time together" in a romantic way in Japanese. She says that perhaps Link could visit more. This is a very different context. Because it implies what we know that he had been getting more distant.
In English it's way more romantic sounding and suggests they are already spending time together and now they get alone time.
Also not to crush anyone hopes and dreams but the Japanese word for "someone special" is taisetsuna hito and it is not neccesarily romantic. It means precious, important person. But it can apply to someone's best friend, comarade in battle, or even grandmother, anyone really important.
Basically Mipha doesn't need to be dating Link to be called this. We get told they grew up together, we get told they are close we get told he will be there for her. She is definitely someone special and that's enough to be reffered to like this. But she can be that even if he just sees her platonically as his very best friend too.
And lastly the unrequited girl who sacrafices herself for her love is one of the most popular Japanese tropes. The connection between Ruto who is unrequited and Mipha shows this is where our minds are going. At least in Japanese as Ruto's legend is the reason she gets the courage to him the armor. Unbeknownst to her Ruto was rejected. So this is not the best sign.
The "Mipha over me" thing happened when Link was younger. This is another common trope with little kids the girl tells her crush to choose her over someone else. Because she has a crush on him. Usually her crush is oblivious. It does not matter if her crush actually likes the other girl or not because the focus is the girl's feelings. Which confirms she indeed has feelings for her crush and the other girl is somehow important to her crush.
So this is used to tell us Mipha is important to Link and set that up as his taisestu na hito but it still does not imply anything about his feelings as I said she COULD still just be his best friend and that's why his other friend sees her as a rival
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Finally I think it's not surprising the English version seems to give Mipha more romantic words than the Japanese because most JRPGs do this. But in Japanese most of these things are very subtle and Mipha is shown to be shy so it's unlikely she is saying that because she is dating Link or is flirting even if she does like him. She is just happy to spend time with him. So the romance is definitely played up in English. While in Japanese she is framed more like an older sister or best friend than a love interest.
How romance is presented in JP media is NOT the same way it is outside Japan. In Japan, it's usually more toned down and doesn't typically involve the bold romance and big dramatic mutual confessions we are used to in the West. In fact confessions like Mipha's are typically part of unrequited love girl tropes...so...yeah. It does seem harsh and sad. We get attached to a character and we want to see them happy not get their heart broken.
I think localizations do consistently play up love interests and love triangles for this reason. Especially in the case of unrequited love characters.
But the unrequited love girl is supposed to be seen as the most selfless love and it's considered sweet for her to not get the guy but love him forever anyway. Mipha fits this trope to a T. But this is not something we are used to seeing in the west so putting that in the English version would come off as too harsh. So I do think they were trying to make Mipha look like she had more hope than she does in the original, in the localization...
And of course the story should not just flat out reject her like Ruto, so the original gave her a sweet story and showed how important she is to Link. Even though it's supposed to be tragic.
Ship whatever you like but I think these are things to keep in mind during these debates.
That said I think Mipha and her story are very sweet and I would love to know more about how things go for her after AOC whether she gets with Link or not because she is awesome on her own. Hopefully we get something.
~KS
These are excellent cultural points, thank you for pointing this out. I have seen these same tropes in anime and manga and it's one of the reasons why I see Mipha as a mother/sister figure to link as well. Just like Urbosa is Zeldas mother figure. Regardless, ship away peeps 👌🏻
Another thing to keep in mind is that yes the localization team not only translates, but re-interprets and even slightly rewrites some parts for the sake of... well, localization... It's important to keep in mind that translating the Japanese version to English will have different context and may use language that may seem to carry a different meaning, but we have a much different culture than the Japanese and our uses of similar terms may have different meanings.
I think Link visiting more is basically an equivalent to 'spending more time together' if we think of it in terms of literal meaning. When Mipha says 'spend more time together' basically would mean him spending more time at the domain. The Japanese version still has basically the same context towards Link. But I agree that the evidence that Link feels mutually in Breath is definitely FAR weaker than the material I discussed for botw. Age of Calamity would make MiLink a bit more sense, but I mainly chose that since ZeLink was much weaker, no because MiLink got stronger.
@@Zeldom I think that makes sense. Even saying all that it would have been nice to see her actually give him the armor in the story itself. I like Mipha and it's such an important moment so for better or worse they should have at least gone all the way and made it a proper cutscene. Even if it ended in rejection it would be nice to see her character development and courage and if it ended in marriage then she gets a happy ending. But I do still think they were just trying to not have Mipha's route be too similar to Ruto's. Honestly it would have made me mad had they just made her Ruto 2.0. So I'm so glad they give her her own unique sweet story plus she gets treated so fondly by Link in both games. That's the same reason why the just randomly getting the armor with no cutscene feels kinda messed up to me. But oh well, it would be nice to see more of her just as a character. Because both girls have so much more going for them than being a love interest.
Can't wait to see what they do with this story!
@@catalyst2034 Thanks, yeah it's something I think we just have to keep in mind with these things but I do think the Mipha/Link ship is super sweet and refreshing. Whether it's canon or not shouldn't matter. I think their story is beautiful whether it be mutual, or her selflessly loving him and I love the way it's told in BOTW. I don't like how they make her just Zelda's rival in AOC and her proposal doesn't even get a proper cutscene but seeing Mipha alive and happy still wins points in my book.
@@KageSakura yeah I agree. Having them be rivals just seems so wrong to me. Especially since after you release Miphas spirit from her divine beast, she keeps her distance, out of respect and tells Link to save the princess. I feel that like Paya, if Mipha was aware that Link had feelings for Zelda, she would prioritize his happiness over her own and support his decision to be with her. That is part of the tragedy of her character and why I respect the Mipha ship, even if I dont agree with it. 👍🏻
Supposedly Riju is "around" 12. I had the sense she gets a crush on Link, which isn't that strange considering he is probably the only young man she has ever met apart from her father. That and Link is a legendary hero.
though we don't know how gerudo aging works.
Well 100yo is not that young 😅🤣alot of people forget that Link and Zelda are 100yo and more even if their didn't they still are more than only 17-18yo
Plot Twist: Link only loves himself
OH SNAP!
And his cooking! 😂
Self love is best love ❤️
Plot Twist: Link is gay
@@limhx-6734 BUM BUM BUM!!!!!
The way he just emotionlessly reads the lines from characters that are so full of emotion cracks me up.
Riju seems more like 11-12 years old to me
I actually checked, and because the Gerudo age faster than Hylians, Riju is actually 12 years old, sooooooooo
Yeah, I read that in Creating a Champion a couple days before this went live... oh well. To be fair though the only source that claims this is a quote from one of the artists in the book. Wasn't even a lead artist. Developer intent doesn't mean something else can't pertain to the lore and the fact that only a single artist said she's 12 makes it possible that can vary, though it does make alot of sense. In that case they would have to be much older for Riju and Link to get together
I could've sworn she was said to be 14, but I haven't seen anything to prove that haha
@@g00fy_516 they Age faster? I thought she's 11-12 because Gerudos are Generaly bigger then Hylians.
Her canon age is in fact 12.
Entering the Zora domain for the first time after awakening and remembering all that once was always struck me as sad. It must have been heartbreaking for Link.
The silent princess could stand for hope instead of love.
Yeah a second meaning I've seen and that makes a lot of sense is that hope. In Age of Calamity there's that quick shot I mentioned of the flower right before they go back to seal the calamity. That sudden blossoming could be a symbol foreshadowing their victory and that the people of Hyrule have united together to bring enough hope to conquer the calamity
maybe it's a sign of percistance? it may be an endangered species but it's held off extinction for who knows how long and maybe the sign of love is a symbol for your persistence for your desire to be with someone coming through.
A good point for you did you know that when you complete Heart's escort quest where Mipha has to save Link from an Hinox and after you get the Zora armor, Zora armor's description in French tells "do we really have the right to wear it?". As the meaning of the original Japanese sentence "Is it really OK to wear it?" is difficult to grab, I think French wording can indicate the spirit of this sentence. It's possible that as Link is a simple knight and Mipha a princess, he feels insecurities or not worthy of wearing the Zora armor. It would echo his insecurities in BOTW. It's my personal interpretation of it.
I've Played AoC Like 12,000,000 Times, WHAT IS THAT QUEST
I honestly feel like it was meant to be Milink if Ganon hadn’t won the first time, simply due to all the evidence and prior history they had together, and that Milink history was further solidified in AoC, so I think it’s Zelink for BOTW, and Milink for AoC.
Could've been. We'll probably never know for sure
Malon crawled so Midna could walk, and Midna walked so Mipha could run
But malon was the most successful.....
@@frandurrieu6477yup she was probably the one who got together with OOT link and had kids with him
This theory is pretty weak, let's be honest. Just because TP Link was a farmer, doesn't mean that Malon was his maternal descendant as he's the only Hylian in Ordon.
Either TP Link was adopted or his parents moved to Ordon prior to having him, but sadly perished when he was young.
im zelink all the way in almost every single zelda game. but in botw mipha and link are SO CUTE together that i feel obligated to ship them
I love mipha so much
In AoC, the gal who makes the first move wins. Mipha had an entire marriage proposal prepared, plus a childhood friendship with Link, while Zelda had nothing. Mipha wins
He also mentioned Mipha last. He also said she had to be in every video. Mipha wins.
Also my Waifu made me a zora set, best drip in game.
@@laharlkent Zora armor may have the drip, but it would absolutely suck as armor! The thing leaves your whole torso exposed!
what if link decided not to speak to mipha about his problem because he cared for her and didnt want to involve her in it because he didnt want her to worry
Could be the case
That’s probably the case
That's my theory.
Yeah
Yes
For the BotW one. I think it's a case that Mipha and Link were friends and there was affection there, but Link ended up distancing himself from Mipha. He still sees her as a friend, but he's too wrapped up in his own stuff to see her as more than that. For Zelda, she somehow slipped past his guard as he saw her as a kindred spirit.
But I definitely agree with you for the Warriers timeline. It's interesting to see how people change and the relationships we might take if a few things change.
mipha couldn't get link to open up that sort of tells me that he only saw her as a friend
Plot Twist:
- Terrako was a MiphaxLink shipper. So when he used his time travel powers and saw Mipha’s demise, he was like “Oh hell nah”. Not only going back in time to alter the events of the Great Calamoty, but sending help to the Champions long enough for Link to rescue them. Thus ensuring Mipha’s survival.
The Egg,man only ships
EGGI 3 LEGGI BOI IS MEEEE lmao
now that I think about it, that makes sense! he wanted link to stay away from the princess so he could hang out with another princess lmao
So... He broke linier time so that two people he didn't know could get together.
@@liamdalemon1525 ultimate wingman
28:56 the Music for Divine beat Vah Ruta actually unlike it's other counter parts gets more ominous as the dungeon goes on. potentially symbolizing Mipha's anxiety that Link might be Killed by water blight, just like she was. or maybe anticipating link's reaction to her death. I'm pretty sure anyone dead would want to see the reaction of something they loved to their death. lol imagine if they didn't care about the dead person how heart breaking that'd be.
If Vilia is a Gerudo male, then it's actually kinda tragic that he has to disguise himself to enter the town. He just wants to be among his people.
He should have become the new ganondorf
@@thelastpagan4999
Oh hell, naw.
The last time we had a new Ganondorf, we got Four Swords Adventures.
Not even Breath of the Wild knows what to do with Four Swords Adventures on the timeline.
Hell, Four Swords Adventures probably comes after Breath of the Wild.
He is very likley not Gerudo
@@aprinnyonbreak1290 What happened to you?
@@Jaydenisthegoatoffortnite hmm?
Mipha was a masterpiece and I think Nintendo was scared that people would like mipha more and KILLED HERRR
Tbf they killed all the champions
Where there's a will, there's a way
Well......she dead now so....Zelda can have him - or Paya-
or it was a win win, having a dramatic but cute love story while still keeping up the possibility for link and zelda
Grand javelin time
Riju is about 12.
You've got to remember that her people are tall. Just because she looks close to the same height as Zelda from the flashbacks doesn't mean they are about the same age.
She's just a kid.
Mipha was decades old before Link was asleep for 100 years
Please Stop and Get Help
Kids have one-sided crushes on celebrities.
I just ship Mipha with Link cause she's a cute fish girl
Who needs more reason than that ;)
I just love links and Zeldas relationship. Platonic or romantic, idc! They definitely care for eachother somehow 💖
For sure :)
agreed ✨
I'm totally honest here
If I was Link
I'd choose Mipha
I don't even care that she's a Zora
She's so sweet and wholesome
Her voice actress also did a great job in giving her a personality
And the way she slowly moved closer to Link when they took a group picture just to stand besides him on it
So cute!
Plus of course everything said in this video
I must add that the fact that she couldn't propose to him before she died to Ganons Watercurse and also what she says when you free her spirit. That she just wished to see Link once more and that she can rest in peace now.
It broke me it really did
I totally agree
I disagree. Zelda is hot.
Yeah i cried a good 10 minutes after i beat vah ruta in my first playthrough
@@glutentag5853 two informative and highly convincing arguments by both sides.
@@unnecessarilyepic1107 I know
Probably the most thorough analysis of Link's love pentagon. Seriously, this man can't keep the ladies away from him!
Ik... like I thought making Link an avatar for the players was supposed to help it be more immersive. I don't have Link's pull game
@@Zeldom Ha ha, ditto!
@@TheBreadPirate same
@@Zeldom Lmaooo
@@Zeldom Same, BoTW Link is a freaking chick magnet!
Link and Zelda being in love is, as far as I'm concerned, a core part of the series. Courage, sacrifice and love overcoming evil, even if they can't be together they will always be drawn to each other each time they are reincarnated.
They're supposed to fight evil together but actually they've been romantically involved in very few games. Skyward Sword yes but in Twilight princess they barely interact, in Ocarina of time he is with Malon...
No to be honest in most games in the series, Link and Zelda only worked together, they rarely become close, let alone fall in love, since Zelda is a princess and Link is only a knight. In Skyward Sword though Zelda is his childhood friend and it's pretty clear they are in love.
Meh...link prolly likes food
I’m glad to see another Zelda fan who appreciates spirit tracks
ST is so underrated. I have some ideas for some ST theories. I may try to start working on some of those soon
@@Zeldom - omg yes! I would definitely tune in :3 It was my first Zelda.
My first Zelda was windwaker when I play it in my dads GameCube ages ago
Such a good game I quite like the design of toon link, too bad he’s the worst link in smash so I Main Young Link instead, though I did spend hours learning bomb combos for adult link to realise he was slow and I preferred young Link
@@someguynamedtom2111 I actually main young link in smash lol
@@Zeldom please do some spirit tracks deserves a lot more love
I personally think that Links and Sidons relationship is more of a bromantical one than a romantical one
Like...what is said in the video?
I’ve been waiting for part 2 of this for so long, and it did not disappoint!
I’m a full supporter of MiLink, but I agree with your belief that it wouldn’t work in BoTW.
The thing is, Riju, Zelda and Mipha are the only actual ships. The rest of them were all just for the meme.
You did so well on this, and I can’t wait for part 3!
Thanks I'm glad you liked it! I'll make sure it's not another 4 months until the next. Plus the others will be shorter since I won't be jamming them into one video.
Paya is also a legit one. I didn't know until afterwards that Riju is 'supposed' to be 12 from Creating a Champion/Masterworks. It is important to keep in mind that the quote was from one of the artists, not even the lead character designer so whether that is accurate in the lore is debatable.
YOU DARE SAY PAYA IS A MEME SHIP? (Prob tbh)
MiLink is probably one of my favourite ships in the franchise
@@risk_limao There is a meme speedrun involving Paya (getlaid%)
@@Cretaceous158 yeah i know now lmao. funny thing is that it showed up on my feed like 3 days after this comment
I personally think that mipha is links true love for one reason in the final battle with Ganon in age of calamity you can hear bits of mipha song from her level can be heard.
Damn it, why does these stupid games make me cry about a fish women
Same wtf?
For real ;-;
I feel bad for eating sushi now-
fish wife
@@suuters I’m laughing so hard
One thing in Aoc that may hint at Link and Mipha getting together is that the second phase of the final boss theme is pretty much a rearrangement of Mipha's theme.
My personal interpretation: BotW and AoC are two parallel universes. In BotW Link has been known as the hero since he was 12, in AoC the kingdom never bloody figured it out until the calamity is at their doorstep. *This changes absolutely everything.*
in botw's timeline, Link's early reveal as the hero thrusts him into a life of discipline and unwanted fame. He was a kid! He followed in his dad's footsteps and trained to be a knight like him, and he WAS exceptional, but he had no idea what the world's got in store for his ass. Him pulling out that sword at 12 didn't just get him into the military, it drew him away from travelling hyrule with his father (and thus straining his friendship with mipha) and probably exposes him to court life and life as a public figure in general. That is a LOT to put on a kid, and he shuts down over the years, going selectively mute.
Thus, shared burden, yadda yadda, personal knight spends all his time with Zelda and seems to only ever opened up to her about his personal thoughts, died and came back to life a more talkative person (because memories are gone, yes this is in the masterworks) -> bam, "I wish to see her smile again with my own eyes"
Meanwhile in AoC, he was just a knight. A very talented one yes, but one of many. The whole time, just living his life on track as he always thought it would. His dad was a knight, he trained to be a knight, and now there he was. Wondering where the hell the hero is like anyone else. This for one, gives him a few extra years with Mipha as he enlisted older (and got normal soldier duties and off days). As you said, Mipha seems more confident when interacting with Link in this game, too. So up until he pulled the master sword in this timeline he had absolutely no reason to hang around Zelda at all, and didn't share her great burden because he was literally some guy. She never initially resented him because well he never did anything wrong. Or anything at all. They're just immediately cool with each other.
So yeah no trauma due to massive burden, no spending time with Zelda, no "oh shit I was being a jerk to him I will make up for it" + Mipha's friendship being more certain this time around -> "Mipha's figure is even more beautiful than usual."
'Nuff said.
Funnily enough, the Pot Lid Incident that made Link the princess' personal knight is different, too. In botw she was watching regular guardian testing when they accidentally caused a malfunction and the guardian fired off. Link apparently took a pot lid and deflects the beam protecting Zelda, and this was so damn impressive the king was like "yeah okay you follow her around now". Meanwhile in AoC, he protected her while on duty from a genuinely malicious guardian. :p
9:29 I always put Riju's trust in Link being more a result of her having been told stories about him growing up and though that, knowing he is trustworthy. Plus a bit of hero worship.
Mipha is the best, she cared for him even in death...zelda took way too long to come around to him even though he did so much for her. Classic anime trope of the childhood friend vs the current love interest
Team Mipha!
Couldn’t agree more!😆
No@@Zeldom She's 12 Not 16
Same
Imo when I read the conversations between Riju and link it felt way more like a sibling relationship, as in Riju sees link as kind of an older brother kinda figure. I feel like that would fit more and is also quite wholesome
Plus, I’m pretty sure Riju is like 12-13 years old in Breath of the Wild, not 16-17. I’ve always seen it as a brother/sister relationship, too.
Silent stress is huge, it’s actually remarkable that this is a huge theme in Link’s maturity.
Link is basically a harem anime protagonist
What about the memory in botw where Zelda is entrusting the master sword to the great deku tree? If the great deku tree didn't cut off her message to Link, I'm confident she would have said something like "tell Link I love him".
I think even in BotW Mipha and Link’s relationship was a bit more serious than you’re maybe implying. The Zora Armour may be just one piece of evidence but it’s some pretty big evidence of something fairly mutual I feel. You don’t generally prepare to propose to a crush
thats what i thought immediately too "wait, were they already dating or not?" because I read that after seeing something about her having feelings for him from sidon, and that usually implies that they werent already dating, but i think they were secretly dating, at least sidon didnt know about it, so it makes sense.
@@-letspretendidontexist-8479 if she wanted marriage they were probably already dating, as you suggest by “wanting to jump straight to marriage” don’t you think they would have at least talked about it? And as she says in an ending after fighting waterblight ganon in the champions ballad dlc “do you remember what happened between us 100 years ago? do you know why the zora armor fits you so perfectly? I truly hope you remember, if you do not… I suppose it cant be helped. As for me, I will never forget” so obviously SOMETHING regarding the zora armor that is given to a zora princesses future husband, not really saying if it is as a marriage proposal or as a wedding gift thing, which implies very strongly that link reciprocated her feelings towards him.
@@-letspretendidontexist-8479 point 3 can easily be disproven if they had not told anyone else, the zora for the most part were very racist to hylians. And “do you know why that zora armor fits you so perfectly” after asking about memories very much implies he had known something about the armor at the time. And telling him directly that they were dating is risking an overload of information. And why would something like that be added to the English version when the English version is known to hide any form of proof of shipping, they would more likely censor that than add it. Though I have no access to the Japanese version, I bet there is something that proves my point that at least link knew about her feelings for him.
I think Mipha and Link were absolutely dating, but then Link pulled the Master Sword and everything changed. Maybe I’m completely wrong, I have no idea. That’s just how I’ve always seen it
@@tmalecki1521 Whoaaaa no, no, no, that is definitely not the case at all.
I like how it’s canonically confirmed that Zelda loves link and that her love for him is what makes her power work
In "Age of Calamity" are we all forgetting that Link accepted Mipha's Engagement Zora Armor?
I don't think that the side quests are part of the canon story though. I've gone into more detail in previous comments
Wait what huh when did this happen I-
@@Zeldom Link would probably know Zora customs, and the Both and AoC devs are very detailed... I think MiLink Confirmed!!!
@@seograt963 keep in mind that a loading screen message while the main story hasn't been completed says that Terrako somehow opened an alternative dimension or something which allows for the trainings to exist. I HATE that message and that's not an exact quote, but that's the jist of it. I think it would've just been better of to not address it in the game and let us interpret whether the side missions are canon or not, but they basically confirm from that message that they are not
@@Zeldom Fair point. But... I forgot that Terrako can LITERALLY summon people from different times at anywhere it wants? So why couldn’t it just time-travel Link into an alternate time, where he could train?
i think it's worth mentioning that mipha tried to give zelda advice about how to unlock her power- i always assumed that it had something to do with love, since we only ever see mipha using her power to heal link, and zelda using hers to save him.
When it comes to Zelda and Mipha, both would make for lovely couples with Link. Truly, it just comes down to in both games “right person, wrong time”.