On a whim I actually used it on a wider range 11-40T cassette as I was trying to save my cousin from having to buy a new rear mech for the 1x conversion of his commuter hardtail. And it works perfectly, perhaps due to that B-axle unit which you referred to as something that resembled a dropout extender. I'm currently using a single narrow wide ring in front w/ a 9 speed chain but I might try a 10 speed chain for better chain retention. For the meantime, I am running a seat tube mounted single chain guide to try and avoid chaindrops w/ the current chain.
Thanks for a close up of the clamp and the all round great explanation, couldn't for the life of me work out which way the cable went, now my gears change fine!
That shouldn’t work for 10s indexed road. The pull ratio changes above 9s. Some touring bikes, however, as using 9s mountain derailleurs with Sora 9s brifters. That works fine.
Shimano 10sp STI, except Tiagra 4700, front shifters are compatible with 9sp MTB derailleur. The Tiagra 4700 shifters are not compatible with 9sp or older 10sp derailleurs.
Yes thank you. I may also add that I don't think that 10s GRX shifters are compatible with 9s rear derailleurs also. They may have similar pull ratios to Tiagra 4700.
I have this shimano alivio and 9 speed shifter. The cassete is shimano 10s HG50-10. chainring is a single 44t (mid drive). Shifting is smooth from 9-4 but when i come to bigger sprocket, it a hit and miss situation. It can jump from 4 to 2 and 3 to 1. I solve this by not shifting to lower gear from 3 -1. Not ideal but it works for me going places. Can someone help :- - should i change sprocket or change derailleure? - is it common for 10x1 speed bike with 44t chaingring to have longer links? currently im using 118 links but my chain/derailleur is too stressed on 1st gear.
I don't have a video of the bike the alivio rear derailleur is on. I'm using a Shimano 105 ST-5700 Right 10-Speed STI Lever. It works great w/10s cassette!
I have this shimano alivio and 9 speed shifter. The cassete is shimano 10s HG50-10. chainring is a single 44t (mid drive). Shifting is smooth from 9-4 but when i come to bigger sprocket, it a hit and miss situation. It can jump from 4 to 2 and 3 to 1. I solve this by not shifting to lower gear from 3 -1. Not ideal but it works for me going places. Can someone help :- - should i change sprocket or change derailleure? - is it common for 10x1 speed bike with 44t chaingring to have longer links? currently im using 118 links but my chain/derailleur is too stressed on 1st gear.
It sounds like you're on an ebike. If so they have different chain lines so the biggest cog in the rear may be too far inward for ideal shifting. I'm not sure what you mean by "too stressed" in 1st gear. If the hanger is really stretched out then yes you may need more links on the chain
My bike is 2x9 but I need a new drivetrain. I bought a 10/11 speed crankset do you think it would work and could I put a clutched 10speed Deore on instead of my old Alivio?
I think your crankset would work best with a matching chain. I have an 11s dura ace crankset with 10s shimano Ultegra di2. I'm using an 11s dura ace chain and the combo works well. For the rear derailleur you need a matching, same speed shifter. I also have an 11s XT8000 crankset with 10s XTR. I have an 11s XT chain and that works well.
Si, yo estoy usando un casette de 11-42 y 50/34 en frente. Esta instalado en mi entrenador inteligente y lo he usado en una conversion de montañera a gravel. Ningun problema. Si tienes que mover el desviador un poquito mas arriba pero no afecta los cambios para nada.
I just ordered this rear derailleur to replace my Shimano acera rd- m3000. I haven't installed it yet but the mounting bracket is pointing straight up like in your video but I see other pictures where it's more horizontal which is how the acera is on my bike. Does it lock in that way or does the tension from the chain pull it like that?
The derailleur hanger extender built in is mounted almost horizontal when installed. I have a video showing how it looks installed: ua-cam.com/video/HLEN4S3FbbQ/v-deo.html
got the same idea to put that rd with road shifters so how good or bad work and what model are the shifters? (google say 6,7,8,9 road and mtb are compatible but 10,11,12 NOt)
Mine works well. Shimano 105 ST-5700 Right 10-Speed STI Lever. Yes, most 9 speed road and most 10 speed road work with this rear derailleur. I believe the new 10 speed road (tiagra & grx) do NOT work.
On a whim I actually used it on a wider range 11-40T cassette as I was trying to save my cousin from having to buy a new rear mech for the 1x conversion of his commuter hardtail. And it works perfectly, perhaps due to that B-axle unit which you referred to as something that resembled a dropout extender. I'm currently using a single narrow wide ring in front w/ a 9 speed chain but I might try a 10 speed chain for better chain retention. For the meantime, I am running a seat tube mounted single chain guide to try and avoid chaindrops w/ the current chain.
Thanks for the update. With 1x I don't see as much as a problem but with 2x the hanger might not have enough movement for all gears.
Thanks for a close up of the clamp and the all round great explanation, couldn't for the life of me work out which way the cable went, now my gears change fine!
You're welcome! Glad it works now.
It can handle more than 36t,, It actually can take up to a 42t sprocket.
Thanks, I've never tried it. For 42T I use an 11 speed with 11s equipped bike.
It's very informative. Thank you very much for your video.
2:37 I have exactly the same one, and the extender broke, I was Paddling and it just snapped
That shouldn’t work for 10s indexed road. The pull ratio changes above 9s. Some touring bikes, however, as using 9s mountain derailleurs with Sora 9s brifters. That works fine.
It works for me. 10s Shimano shifter brake lever with alivio 9 speed rear derailleur.
Shimano 10sp STI, except Tiagra 4700, front shifters are compatible with 9sp MTB derailleur. The Tiagra 4700 shifters are not compatible with 9sp or older 10sp derailleurs.
Yes thank you. I may also add that I don't think that 10s GRX shifters are compatible with 9s rear derailleurs also. They may have similar pull ratios to Tiagra 4700.
@@pedalpowercycling That is correct. GRX is 11sp. Tiagra 4700 is essentially a 10sp version of 11sp drive train - cable pull ratio is the same.
I have this shimano alivio and 9 speed shifter. The cassete is shimano 10s HG50-10. chainring is a single 44t (mid drive). Shifting is smooth from 9-4 but when i come to bigger sprocket, it a hit and miss situation. It can jump from 4 to 2 and 3 to 1. I solve this by not shifting to lower gear from 3 -1. Not ideal but it works for me going places. Can someone help :-
- should i change sprocket or change derailleure?
- is it common for 10x1 speed bike with 44t chaingring to have longer links? currently im using 118 links but my chain/derailleur is too stressed on 1st gear.
Jockey is bit bent to right side. I think because Shadow and long cage
Nice...!😊
Do you have a vid of the Alivio road bike? What STI shifters did you pair it with, and did it work smoothly?
I don't have a video of the bike the alivio rear derailleur is on. I'm using a Shimano 105 ST-5700 Right 10-Speed STI Lever. It works great w/10s cassette!
Hello where is the clutch system button, when we want to change the wheel?
No clutch on this one.
Hello sur i have shimano acera m3000 9-speed rear derailleur , can i replace it with this one in the video
You should be able to since they're the same speeds.
Hi. Can I use any Shimano Deore 9 speed derailleur on a 3x9 setup? What do you recommend for a GT Avalanche from around 2006? rear derailleur wise.
I'd look for a long cage to accommodate all the gears. 9 speed mountain bike derailleur should work.
I have this shimano alivio and 9 speed shifter. The cassete is shimano 10s HG50-10. chainring is a single 44t (mid drive). Shifting is smooth from 9-4 but when i come to bigger sprocket, it a hit and miss situation. It can jump from 4 to 2 and 3 to 1. I solve this by not shifting to lower gear from 3 -1. Not ideal but it works for me going places. Can someone help :-
- should i change sprocket or change derailleure?
- is it common for 10x1 speed bike with 44t chaingring to have longer links? currently im using 118 links but my chain/derailleur is too stressed on 1st gear.
It sounds like you're on an ebike. If so they have different chain lines so the biggest cog in the rear may be too far inward for ideal shifting. I'm not sure what you mean by "too stressed" in 1st gear. If the hanger is really stretched out then yes you may need more links on the chain
My bike is 2x9 but I need a new drivetrain. I bought a 10/11 speed crankset do you think it would work and could I put a clutched 10speed Deore on instead of my old Alivio?
I think your crankset would work best with a matching chain. I have an 11s dura ace crankset with 10s shimano Ultegra di2. I'm using an 11s dura ace chain and the combo works well. For the rear derailleur you need a matching, same speed shifter. I also have an 11s XT8000 crankset with 10s XTR. I have an 11s XT chain and that works well.
Se puede usar con un piñón de 40T ?
Si, yo estoy usando un casette de 11-42 y 50/34 en frente. Esta instalado en mi entrenador inteligente y lo he usado en una conversion de montañera a gravel. Ningun problema. Si tienes que mover el desviador un poquito mas arriba pero no afecta los cambios para nada.
Peddal- amazing job- goodbye!! =)
I just ordered this rear derailleur to replace my Shimano acera rd- m3000. I haven't installed it yet but the mounting bracket is pointing straight up like in your video but I see other pictures where it's more horizontal which is how the acera is on my bike. Does it lock in that way or does the tension from the chain pull it like that?
The derailleur hanger extender built in is mounted almost horizontal when installed. I have a video showing how it looks installed: ua-cam.com/video/HLEN4S3FbbQ/v-deo.html
@@pedalpowercycling thanks for reply when I took the old one off I noticed that but it's good to see it in a video.
got the same idea to put that rd with road shifters so how good or bad work and what model are the shifters? (google say 6,7,8,9 road and mtb are compatible but 10,11,12 NOt)
Mine works well. Shimano 105 ST-5700 Right 10-Speed STI Lever. Yes, most 9 speed road and most 10 speed road work with this rear derailleur. I believe the new 10 speed road (tiagra & grx) do NOT work.
@@pedalpowercycling my doubt right now 9s chain would pass through the 105 rd
@@testdirver I'm using a SRAM 1051, 10s chain, it works well.
Is it compatible for 8speed sprocket with 8 speed shifter?
It should be if they're both also Shimano.
Alivio m3100 is it the same as the old deore m592?
They work very similar. I think the main difference is the look and design.
When this product have been produced?
You can still currently purchase these at Shimano dealers.
Is it okay to use 36t chain ring 1by?
I don't see why not. Just make sure your chain is sized appropriately.
How much in USD
I think I got mine for around $40-$50 at REI.
Shadow ? It mean can lock
Yes, per Shimano "The SHADOW PLUS derailleur design utilizes a spring-loaded lower pulley cage that can be locked out with an on/off switch."
@@pedalpowercycling how do i lock it ??
@@chenciecocouce No this doesn't have Shadow+. I said "yes" when you asked if shadow meant it could lock, not this rear derailleur unfortunately.
@@pedalpowercycling owalah jadi ʸᵃⁿᵍ bisa Dᵢ lock tuh hny shadow ples