Final Fantasy 14 - From PS3 to PS5 - Every Console Version Tested - The Complete Saga!
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- Опубліковано 30 вер 2024
- When we asked Marc 'Try4ce' Duddleson from My Life In Gaming to take a look at Final Fantasy 14 on PlayStation 5 for us, we were looking forward to an expert analysis from someone who knows the game inside out. And we got that... and so much more. This isn't just a tech breakdown of FF14, it's the story of the game from its early beginnings, through its troubled launch, to its relaunch and deployment across multiple generations. It's a video we're proud to share with you!
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Thank you all for watching this very special video on FFXIV from our friends at My Life in Gaming! Do you play this or any other MMO? What are your thoughts on these kind of collaborations? Are there other channels you want us to team up with? Do you want to see My Life in Gaming tackle another game with us? Let us know in the comments!
My Life in Gaming covering modern ports/emulation of older titles on current gen with a little more technical angle on DF would be super awesome!
Ive been watching Digital Foundry an My Life in Gaming for years now an wouldn’t Know anything about Retro Gaming if it wasn’t for them I love these Collaborations Keep up the Good work!!
Iam really hoping that SE will upgrade and optimise PS5 version! It can run better and look better! And thank you for the video!
I like the guy from My Life In Gaming..so no complaints from me.
Hire him in the team
You know how you can tell this is a DF video? Because the host says BESPOKE.
true😂👌🏻
@@neqaa1 I was about 20 years old before I learned what 'bespoke' meant. I thought it meant, like, 'not spoken about'. Which made little sense.
also all of these "rather"s
Yeah but he also said "darn tootin"
@@CLabmusic it's not the only phrase that can characterise these videos, MIND YOU
This is an extraordinary effort, and hugely enjoyable and informative. Well worth the Patreon subscription!
This video isn't free?
@@temuujinsukhbaatar7345 It is but if it wasn't for people supporting in some way they would never be able to make them.
@@temuujinsukhbaatar7345 patreon subscribers could watch a day early
@Pro-Facts Anti-BS If the video is sponsored then there will be a disclaimer stating that.
Like DF is some small indie operation being under Eurogamer and is somehow in need of extra dough besides what is paid by advertisers and sponsored content. So easily fooled.
My Life In Gaming is awesome! :D
Hey rerez, are you gonna review a Final Fantasy game in a "IT'S JUST BAD" video?
By the end of the video I had completely forgotten this wasn't a My Life In Gaming video. I thought it was strange when he mentioned Digital Foundry...
Hey it's Rerez!
Your life is pathetic with a crap console like ps5 which is destroyed by the series x. LOL
@@lordmaster2562 XSX is just lovely, but Im about to by a PS5 just to see the difference. I don’t know if I can live without quick resume and smart delivery. Also 800gb which goes down to 600gb SSD with no real opportunity to upgrade, is just a disgrace.
Now THIS is a surprise…
A most welcome one, of course. I love FFXIV.
Good for you. Game is shite.
I wanted to try it until I saw the monthly subscription, so then i said I'm good and moved on
Awesome game
@@XZ-III You can try the base game and first expansion entirely for free with no subscription if you like, that way you can still try it out and see what you think :)
@@cosmancho2959 Thank god then, that you always got EA’s Star Wars MMO to play, along with the nine people that are left there.
The fact that DF can use something like Patreon to hire an outside person to help construct a video for them that was directly asked for by Patreon supporters is pretty fantastic, IMO. It's also highly topical as FFXIV is getting a lot of press right now after announcing its latest expansion and we've seen a TON of new players trying the game out as of late.
after that interview from preach with ion and the state of warcraft expect more players
New player who just joined here and I can't wait to get stuck in
@@urbansamurai261 well if you buy the game (shadowbringers complete edition) and get to lvl 50 I think you can unlock samurai job
@@eriuz noted
I'm not playing because I don't have time to grind 😆. And I'm on summer break too. Definitely won't have time after I go back to school and get a job.
2:50 minutes without saying "acclaimed Heavensward expension up to level 60 without any time restriction" a true WoL fren
[Try4ce] Haha I actually discovered that this whole "free trial includes Heavensward" thing was a meme after I wrote about it already. But I ran with it anyway! I mean, I can understand why people won't shut up about it. It's a great deal and gives you a taste of why the game is worth playing just for the story alone if that's all you wanted to do.
@@mylifeingaming I am level 30 and can you tell me about questing... I am slightlyconfused as I am overwhelmed by the amount of quests there are. WHat should I focus on? Should I be clearing every quest in towns and villages or just focus on MSQ and blue+ quests?
How should I progress?
[Try4ce] You can sometimes get additional level-appropriate armor (and some lore insights) by doing regular quests, but it's usually not that necessary. These days I usually skip over those myself. The main quests I do while working though each expansion (aside from the main story) are the blue ones, but usually only when they offer aether current attunement, which is required for flying in expansion areas (ARR flying is freely available now with no questing if you have a mount for it). So yeah if you feel overwhelmed by the number of quests, I'd say just do main story, but if a particular NPC piques your curiosity, no harm in seeing what they have to say. But for the most part I'd say such quests aren't critical for keeping yourself leveled and equipped. Doing Duty Roulette is a faster way to level if you happen to fall behind.
@@sermerlin1 Just do the Main Quest. Side quest dont give you anything aside from some immersion, unless they're Blue side quest those actually unlock things/features.
@@bophadesknutz7798 Yeah... I did a lot of side quests (blue+ and regular) and I was so overleveled that the game doesn't feel challenging at all even at lvl 30.
I'm just literally "timer" waiting for NPCs to die with no sense of danger or needing to interupt/CC as they're like 8+ lvls lower then me.
So I suppose I should just do MSQ with blue+ quests?
FFXIV base PS4 version feel more smooth on PS5, then the PS5 version of XIV beta build. "On Performance mode" And this video proves it`!!!!🤔
The PS5 version was officially released on May 25th. Hugely disappointing that the game went from beta to retail without a noticeable difference in performance.
@@drunkendevil I do get that it is what it is because of the state the world is in, but the PS5 version feels more like a downgrade. will play the PS4 version on the PS5 until they fix it. Let's keep our fingers crossed that it will be sorted out when the Endwalker is released.
Is it possible to run a new test now that the game has added dynamic resolution options for PS5 as of patch 6.2 (August 23, 2022)? Personal experience, I've seen far less framerate drops in the common areas where they occurred before, but still some stuttering at times.
1:16, it looks like Rich found a time machine and went back in time. His accent was different back then.
Ha! I also saw a young Richard instantly.
They even talk with their hands.
To help explain the dual sense haptics, the haptics use voice coil actuators in the pad to produce the vibrations. These are high powered speakers that vibrate the pad.
As a result the haptics API uses sounds and sound waves to vibrate the pad. And not the standard vibration signals.
In this case the game is simply sending the sound of the footsteps to the haptics engine as is. Which is why the haptics change depending on distance and on the surface you're running on.
If you put your ear to the pad you can actually hear the sounds Coming from the haptic motors.
As a side note, because of this you can plug your dual sense into your PC and make the pad vibrate by using it as a speaker (windows recognises the dual sense haptics as an external USB speaker).
@@0uttaS1TE yes actually they do. Install VB audio and use that to route in-game audio to the pad. Your pad will basically vibrate in tune with what happening on screen. For Metro Exodus you even get full haptics and resistive triggers on PC.
@@0uttaS1TE that's what I wonder as well. The dual sense has some suspiciously robust PC support. The built in Mic can be used as a microphone as is with no additional drivers (I use it in all my work calls), the haptics I like to use them when listening to music or gaming.
Resistive triggers I think it's a custom API Sony gave them because I doubt these guys are cheesing any emulators or backdoor drivers.
Imagine buying a console and caring about how the controller vibrates, is this N64?Unless you just started playing games do you still even notice the vibration’s?
@@jlink1391 if you truly didn't care why are you leaving a comment? in fact if you don't care about minutiae like this why are you even watching this channel
@@jlink1391 lol can tell you haven’t used a haptic controller 😂😂😂
Final Fantasy XIV may be my favourite game of all time. It's a decent MMO, but it's an INCREDIBLE Final Fantasy game.
Why? What about the story is incredible? Everyone says the story was great but it just never stands out to me.
@@Jbayz How far have you got? It only really starts picking up in the second half of the Heavensward expansion in my opinion, and most people would say it's Shadowbringers that is the pinnacle of the story.
If you've got that far and still don't really like it... well, that's fine, opinions will always differ :)
@@Jbayz A realm reborn was alright somewhat decent. Heavensward and Shadowbringers were really where it all shines
@@rogerarteaga2665 well the problem I had is that the first part was so tedious that I had a hard time paying attention to the story at a certain point. I have a level 70 summoner and I can't tell you much about the story.
I think the problem is also there was so much bloated dialogue. I dunno. I feel like wow has more casual ways of delivering story to people. I want to get into lore, maybe I'll try again.
Seeing those original version cutscenes makes me so very sad about what we have lost.
we have the bread technique now x), and the animations from the latest patch is top notch
Yeah, but what we have gained though. A playable game
FF 14 🤝 GTA V
Spans for 3 generations of consoles
Crysis 1 and wait till bugthesda rerelease Skyrim
Wow spans... 4 generations. So what you gon' say 'bout that huh?
@@sermerlin1 WoW is not even playable in Console
Are we really looking for numbers instead of the actual game?
If something is too old, ppl just gonna drop it or kick on it actually.
This is great work. Serious props to My Life In Gaming!
Hahhahaahaha ps5 video's lol. Pathetic
The reason for the big difference in performance between the native ps5 app and the ps4 pro version is due to the high quality ambient occlusion that is used on the ps5 app. This is a killer on pc as well at higher resolutions and is completely absent on the ps4 and ps4 pro version. Amazed to see this overlooked in a digital foundry video but ah well.
Would be really nice to see a 4k option for the game that scales back things like ambient occlusion and other taxing visuals features to allow for a mode that gets closer to that 60fps goal at 4k.
Are you saying the ambient occlusion is higher quality on the PS5 version or that it isn’t present at all in the PS4 version?
Because the PS4 version does have ambient occlusion and the last time I played on PC there was no option for changing its ‘quality’.
I can run this game in max settings, 1080p at 50-60FPS on 7 year old hardware
@@rickybobby5153 It's not that it's the ambient occlusion itself is the killer but the quality, nvidia hbao+ option is stupid heavy and barely changes from FFXIV native "strong" option, at this point we just have to wait and hope that the graphical update coming in 7.0 (the next expac after endwalker) is gonna fix most of these weird graphics problems along with the other very weird, archaic and very confusing menu for said graphics options
@@Pietro-nr5pq they work on a graphic update for ps5? Can you tell me some more pls?
@@thedoublegwiggler a massive graphics overhaul and improvement is coming in version 7.0. However it’s estimated that we won’t see this next big expansion until 2024.
@Pietro-nr5pq Nah man. I used hbao+ on my 2070 super and it still runs better than this
Has the native PS5 versión been updated lately to get a better performance? There’s no reason why the PS4 version running on a PS5 should run a single frame above the native PS5 and yet it happens (at least at the time this video was made).
Iam really hoping that SE will upgrade and optimise PS5 version! It can run better and look better!
God, I hope they do. Right now it's a mess performance wise.
I just jumped in 2 weeks ago, Im already level 68, 100 hours in and totally addicted! This was a nice suprise.
That grind lol. It was burn out. Be real.
@@Jbayz stop projecting
You play on monitor ou TV?
@@Nara.294 Tv.. But i play with a mouse and keyboard pretty close.
@@Jbayz Grind? In a mmo? Unbelievable!
So the backwards compatible version is superior? Come on Square Enix sort it out! 😂
Great Job Try! 👍 Thanks for the Colaboration DF
Any fans of Final Fantasy series didn't play FF14 because it's an MMO, you're making a severe mistake. I am a long time fan of Final Fantasy since the early 90's. I will say it bluntly, FF14 is arguably the best Final Fantasy ever. Many fans who played it also agrees. Story, Music, game play, everything is amazing. If it weren't for this COVID pandemic, we would have seen so many FF14 villains cosplay by now at conventions. Seriously, go play it now!
Mhm, sure xD
Best final fantasy game in recent years. Fantastic mmo with a fantastic story. Play this game now
this is a spin off game
@@1gta4gta every final fantasy is a spin off
@@Thros1 of what?
A lot of people seem to not know what a "spin off" actually is.
@@tydendurler9574 every entry is a spin off from the main title different dimensions and stuff, dissidia goes into it deeper.
@@Thros1 a mhm, and what is the main title?
I started my FFXIV career on PS3. The journey has been incredible.
Same, back in 2013!
Started in 1.0 in PC now playing in PS5. Been a continued awesome adventure so far.
Me too, we've come so far!
Legacy’s players LEGENDS!
@@Travel-Adv how was starting over from scratch? Opposite here, have been playing on Sony over the years and am now looking into migrating to PC but I have played everything on one character and don’t want to lose that.
As a long time FF14 player, thank you for this DF.
Pathetic. Still holding on on obselete Consoles LOL. Better buy switch doe real gaming there is the powerhouse series x
@@lordmaster2562 dude I have a Series X, PS5, and Switch. Lol dont let your assumptions allow speak like you're above someone
@@lordmaster2562 real gaming is pc lol stop trolling
This is quality content, we need more collaboration with other gaming channel.
Nobody wants to put in work like this when you can just say switch pro was leaked...
It'd be nice to revisit this game, since they implemented a dynamic resolution feature since this was posted.
Honestly FFXIV is a game worth trying.
The Free Trial is clearly a full featured JRPG for free in terms of lenght (take that WoW)
I’d say two full featured JRPGs really! I like to look at each expansion as another sequel in a long-running subseries
It may be an MMO worth trying
There is a big difference between regular videogames and cancerous MMO's
Question: Did you guys think to test the PS4 PRO Console and Version of the game with an SSD instead of the PS4 Pro's standard HDD?
After installing an SSD, load time plummeted for me.
The best thing you can do if you can't get a PS5 yet is upgrade the HDD to an SSD in a PS4 Pro. My gaming experience has been incredibly smooth on the PS4 Pro since I dropped a Samsung 1TB SSD in it.
I genuinely believe that any gamer should at least experience an mmorpg at least once. It can be an experience that you won't find in any other genre of gaming. Sure it does require some dedication to get going and get over the learning curve and there's many types of mmorpg's from themepark to my personal favorite, sandbox. It can turn out to be genre that may surprise you and get you hooked. Thw type of hooked where you forge friendships and memorable experiences.
My first ever mmorpg was Star Wars Galaxies back in the early 2000's. A game I only bought at Walmart as a kid because of how much I enjoyed playing through Star Wars Knights of the Old Republic. I craved more Star Wars but the game was so different it had very little in common with KotOR. It came with a 30 day subscription like all mmorpg's and a week in I was ready to quit because I didn't know what the hell to do. It was a Sandbox mmorpg.
It wasn't until I landed in a player built city in the planet of Talus that I ran into another player right outside the shuttle port who took me under their wing and explained to me how the game worked, the basics anyway because there was so much more to this game. He turned out to be the guild master of that particular city and mayor. He gave me my own house, a swoop bike and some basic padded armor and food buffs. He gathered some other guild members and we ran some missions from the terminal and later on went hunting for some armor materials. My mind was completely blown, I'd never experienced something like this game. Sure I'd played Age of Empiers 2 online with a friend of mine and Diablo 2 but Star Wars Galaxies was on a realm of it's own. It was like I was a regular person living in the universe of Star Wars, people had professions they specialized in, there were no Jedi's or you're the only hero that can save the universe nonsense. You were nothing special unless you wanted to be and you could. You could be anything you wanted. A smuggler? Sure. A bounty Hunter? Yes. A Droid Engineer, a Chef, an Entertainer, Fencer, Pikeman, Armorsmith etc.
I took a liking to armor crafting so started on my path to becoming a Master Armorsmith. I had to survey planets with drones to locate all the materials I needed. Each server spawned their own quality of each particular resource for a limited amount of time before it reset that effected the outcome of the armor produced. You needed chemical and mineral extractors placed in the planets where there were resources, these extractors had to be fueled and came in different sizes. I was so immersed in that universe, each day doing the rounds, fueling the extractors, emptying the resources collected to make room for the new, going back to my city to meet with a Master Taylor so they could fabricate a blue print for me to mass produce Composite Armor pieces to sell in my own vendor in our player built city.
Everything used by players in the game, be it weapons, armor, travel mounts, droids, furniture or buff food was player made. The different crafting professions required cooperation with other crafting professions to motivate you to interact with other players and form partnerships. The better resource quality used the better that item's statistics were so was the name of the player engrained in the items description that crafted that particular item so you could be famous as some players were for crafting the best armor, weapons etc. It was such an experience that lead me to playing many other mmorpg's including World of Warcraft back in 2005 for a few years but I've yet to find a game as immersive as Star Wars Galaxies was. Maybe it's nostalgia speaking or maybe it's because it was my first mmorpg or maybe the game was really that good but mmorpg's as a genre is probably my favorite.
My first one was this, and I was enjoying it until the first time I was paired up with randoms for a dungeon and their unwllingness to help me understand the in's and out's stopped me playing it dead.
Thanks for sharing! You painted a vivid picture of a game that was clearly very special.
I bounced off FF14 on PC, but maybe I just need to give it a proper second go.
About 15k hours of wow up until after cataclysm I can agree.
Well, that as a cool read. Always appreciate people sharing their experiences in MMORPGs!
Can we all say it's just amazing the PS3 ran this game at all?
No, not really. Any game can run with the sub 720p30 low textures this game released on PS3, not precisely a technical marvel, considering it is a console exclusive too so there was only one SKU to optimize.
LOL who cares about PlayStation sinxe one X its obselete
@@lordmaster2562 no one cared about Xbox till the besethda purchase PlayStation will always be #1 console market
@@lordmaster2562 your pfp reflects what you are, take the L xbot fanboy
@@lordmaster2562 braindead really thinks 95% of games run better on series L did you forget ubisoft had to downgrade assassin creed Valhalla on ps5 to match the shit Xbox series L version, you probably think most game run Better cause of backward compatibility
It was mind blowing seeing this run on my PS3 back in the day. Could not believe I could play such a heavy game with a controller and on such an old system. Good times.
I’m gonna be that guy and say that my Final Fantasy 14 (3yrs) experience eclipsed World
Of Warcraft (7yrs) . Granted FF14 was heavily inspired by W.O.W. and a drastic change from FF11, it was a unique enough experience that delivered on visuals that were eye popping, game play mechanics that felt engaging and for an ongoing online game, having one of the Top 3 Final Fantasy stories of the entire franchise. If you’re on the fence, FF14 is FTP until level 60 and you’ll definitely experience a lot just for that free time you have. Highly recommended.
I need you to tell me what it is about the story. What theme? It surely isn't that first part.
And yes. 14 was rebooted with literally all the things that made wow successful, making ff 14 successful. All it took was an established lore/fanbase.
best mmo out there atm.., even surpassing many great Rpgs on a few accounts.., still wish FFXIV-2 with a new OS would come out, supporting better grafix & Co, .. but continuing FFXIV, with it's world, classes & story
(just FFXIV starts sooo slow (!).., need to hold thru till minimum lv 50-60 quests, till it starts to pick up on all accounts.., if u hold thru, ull be rewarded with a great story & gameplay by endgame and with lots of content and great raiding..)
How many hours would it take to get to that point?
@@Delphiki78
endgame? or till it starts to get slowly get gud?
endgame, if u jump potion it to lv 70, can reach endraiding lv 80 in a few days /weeks (but do NOT recommend to do that!.. you'll miss out on so much world & character building etc.. and everything can feel overwhelming if u jump straight to lv 70)..
... if u go thru all the Main Story (and Class) quests, time can vary, but if u focus, about 7-14 days per expansion (ARR, HW, Sblood, Sbringers), so ca. 4x 7-14 days to reach endgame..
... but it already gets better at lv 20-30-ish, so in a few hours / days already.., and after a low at lv 30-49, it gets gud again at 50 and onwards..
..
TLTR:
imo just play it, it has small climaxes on the way, just around lv 30-49/50 it has a low of stretched quests, and action doesn't feel great either yet.., but if u can hold thru that early part, it keeps picking up on all accounts! (story, characters and action..).., just early action doesn't feel near as rewarding and satisfying as in endgame, but before endgame, many other elements are satisfying
That's changing with the rework to pre hw stuff
Curious on how well the PS5 version is performing now.
Yay My life in gaming!! love that channel
Hey! I can see myself a few times in this video! Haha! Thanks for having me on in some small part. 😂😨
4:33 Oh, that Twilight Over Thanalan theme brings me back to the early days of this game.
I was thinking of finally starting FF 14 in 2023. Does anyone know if the issues with the PS5 port have been addressed yet, or is the PS4 version on PS5 still the best way to play?
I was curious about the same thing actually, do you know if its better on ps5 now? Or is it still the same as this video had shown?
Amazing work, FFXIV is such a gem
From my experience, The PS5 version is far from perfect where frame drop occurred where the ps4 version running on ps5 ran perfectly. Hopefully with the release of this video, square will make improvement.
I think they can push it to like 1800p 60fps.
@@Denu85 i was even expecting 120fps 1080p. How wrong i was
As well as performance drops in more crowded areas that wasn’t present via BC version there is also a weird juddering effect that goes beyond a frame rate drop. Spin the camera in most areas and certain points feel like trying to move the camera through mud. This happens with no other players present. This is mentioned but gets much worse than show here.
BSF and Zadnor areas are terrible at times. No acknowledgement from SE of these issues is really disappointing.
@@stormynight100 I'm considering going back to PS4 version of this game but the UI is so much better on ps5 :/.
A MMO that plays extremely well on consoles is a plus for the Yoshi P team.
All this FXIV love is making me so happy.
Me too fellow warrior of light :)
@@LILTRACUZ514 :)
I was honestly surprised when I played 14 back in the ps3 years ago
i laughed out loud when i saw limsa, yeah that kills fps
I thought I accidentally clicked a My Life In Gaming video instead of a Digital Foundry one....
PS5 version must have been rushed. Don't expect any performance improvements until 6.0 by November.
30:08 "Major Majority" sounds like the name of a Sheep in The Big City character
I read that as he said it...
That's a deep cut
My Life In Gaming belongs in Digital Foundry.
That was really interesting, I don't know if I can bring myself to play an MMO, but you just got me to take note of FF16. All that fan service to the old games here is really great to see - the Magitek armour!
i'm a ff fan for almost 20 years now and a single-player game only guy and trust me when a said XIV is the best main line ff since ffIX and a love letter to the series as a whole, it's basically a main line single-player FF game with a multi-player element to it
ff14 has the best story in any ff games imo.
dont think of it as an "mmo", think of it as a "multiplayer final fantasy game"
Fan service and series love is in FFXIV in spades. That's not to say it's not its own thing, because it absolutely is, but the inspiration and reworking of elements of the past titles is really something special.
Case in point - the Weapon enemies from FF7 have been part of an ongoing Trials (8-player) Boss series (Ruby, Emerald, Diamond), but each have their lore woven into the FFXIV world in interesting ways.
To me its a FF game first, MMORPG second. In this game, a lot of the iconic past FF summons are boss fights. (There's Ifrit, Garuda, Odin, Sephirot, Ruby Weapon, Alexander, Bahamut, Omega, Eden etc). Seriously every FF players need to play this.
I hope the Native PS5 version gets fixed
FF14 is playable on 3 generations like GTAV. The only difference is that we actually got more FF games after 14‘s release. lol
My life in gaming overall production values is a thing of a madman.
Well it was said with endwalker were getting higher settings on ps5
I bought FF14 on the PlayStation 4 back in 2014, created an SE account, and was never able to successfully log into the game. I wasn’t even allowed to create a new account. I contacted SE through email but never got a response. I will create a new PSN when I finally get my hands on a PS5. Maybe then I will be able to enjoy what I have missed out on all these years.
Not being able to play this game is one of the great tragedies of my life.
Accurate representation of the Limsa aetheryte plaza, 10/10
Great video, of course, always really cool to see large cross-gen gaps like these!
I play on both PC and my PS5 and absolutely love both. There's no way I could do Savage content with the DS controller, but kicking back while doing some gathering and leveling alt jobs is amazing.
I raid on PC with a controller lol the devs said that they purposefully create raid to be clear with controller only. They even test raid content with controller only to be sure that the console players can do it.
@@tnykuuh Would never play it with a controller myself, but cool that they make sure it works for controller users.
The only thing I wouldn't do is heal on savage with a controller, using the dpad to heal in such moments seems so hard to me.
@@tnykuuh Oh yeah I know plenty of folks that do. The devs have been amazing at making this game accessible.
I just personally couldn’t do it for a lot of jobs.
Oh hell yeah. My favourite game of all time without competition.
I believe one reason for those fps "issues" is maybe the SSAO which is probl set to HBAO+ Full on all the consoles, cuz thats usually the biggest fps hit on pc and i have constant 170+ fps on 1440p without this setting XD
when i enable this to max i drop from 170 to 131 such a big hit it does XD
I'm not much of an Online Gamer to be honest, i'm more of a Dork Offline Player
A fantastic video and wonderfully produced (those little FF UI elements are perfect)!
Keep up the incredible work guys!
Hey Marc and DF! It’s time to look at this again. Today FFXIV added a LOD option that looks to of cleaned up performance issues. It defaults to “on” for PS4 and “off” for PS5. Switching the PS5 to off makes 2K60 very stable. Maybe there was an LOD difference when this video was made? Maybe there is more to this. Worth an Update?!
I wonder if the recent VRR update also adds to that? 🤔
Thank you for making this analysis. I’ve asked for this a few weeks ago through a comment on another video :)
I found that very enjoyable, thank you.
Funny because the PS5 does not yet support 1440p.
Thank you Try 💕
i play ff14 on ps4 pro everyday (still no way to get a ps5 in germany), i have a 1TB ssd in my ps4 pro and ff14 loads maps in under 5 seconds, i never booted the game from the normal hdd but is it really that bad?
Yes it is, I used to play on base PS4 and didn't change the hard drive. The load times when teleporting is quite long especially in populated areas, also takes a while for all the people to appear on my screen. Doing hunts is a nightmare, feels like frame rate drops to 20-10 then the hunt bosses won't appear due to large hunt parties. By the time it finally appear it's already dead and I don't receive any rewards. I play on PS5 now, the game runs much better even with these issues mentioned in the video it's still a better experience than what I had to deal with on base PS4.
Pro tip for hunt trains go healer and just spam aoe spells while being in a party ofc.
Love this analysis, I’m still playing from time to time
When I was playing on PS3 I didn't mind 😂shit was fun still even dying by aoes I couldn't see made it more funny chaotic
Hope you didn't catch anything while hanging out in Limsa for that long :O
I was an FFXIV PS3 player until 2016. And boy... did I LOVE IT. Thankfully, I never got around to trying Alliance Raiding on it. But I honestly didn't know what I was missing when playing on PS3, and enjoyed the game thoroughly on it.
2x bespoke
PS4 Pro with SSD installed is still an amazing experience(load times are quick!). But I'm still waiting for my Ps5 Digital Version lotto chance. Nice to know there's no rush yet..😅
Started playing the game last month and loved it! got the complete edition and preordered Endwalker im obsessed
As a filthy Balmung resident, it's always odd not hearing Ul'dah Quicksand not be the place to test hordes of people. Very interesting video though.
People been making out that No man sky should be the example how a game will become better if it's gets a better treatment and claiming it got gaming's greatest comeback
While i personally think FFXIV should be the standard for that example.
Seriously...The Story behind it's revival and the Comparison between both games,in-game AND the Lore itself is just off charts.
and out of context,Cyperpunk 2077 needs that treatment if it ever wants to be relevant to today's gaming standards..Just simply patching it won't cut it.
6:08
This is interesting as well
These years, the Enix side of Square Enix has done great work, and DQ XI was a great example
While the Square Side lost billions on the failer MARVEL'S Avengers game, GOTG as well, always dissapointed with Eidos and Crystal Dynamics for not selling as much as COD, Babyllons Fall alongside Platinum, Left Alive with MGS character designer, the total mess that is FFXV development, unfinished feeling and 3 add-ons cancelled
Yeah, and lets remember how they sold Eidos and invested in NFT that are now a crashing market, investing in wortless NFT with no value the moment it goes down
I have the same cabinetry, dude. Good look.
Small bit, I think the PS5 version is using a feature on PC that allows rendering of objects OUTSIDE your peripheral vision, I always turn it off myself even on PC with a 3080/5900x because it really doesn't do a lot outside load some stuff a little faster, but that's practically a non issue on PS5 and it's SSD.
Also great job with the video! I was so excited to see FFXIV pop up on DF
Played the PS3 Version for a while and it was bad but also enjoyable in weird way
Lol still here then moved to ps4 and then to pc
33:09, you seem surprised that the frame drops occur at 1080p, but you should not be, because it's obviously not a GPU bottleneck at all, instead I think it's simply some problem in their code, maybe a streaming bug. Probably the game was just recompiled for PS5 but it's still the same game with the same memory management (which is optimized for PS4, not PS5, so there's already a deficit here), so here it's probably trying to stream in the data to be able to render the back as you turn the camera, and that causes the slow down. And that's also why when the back appears in view, there is no slow down, because those assets have already been loaded.
[Try4ce] You're absolutely correct, I believe, but the resolution does have some impact. And it's an interesting point of comparison because you can see the backwards compatible version both run better AND look better. But yeah, I do agree it seems to be CPU bottlenecks... ones that really shouldn't be happening here though. Extra care really needs to be put into the native version.
Awesome video, I like the third party outreach.
There is something really wrong when a PS4 Version runs better then the PS5 Version. This is really weird. Stupid even. I dont understand it. At all. And there is no explanation to it. Zero Idea to how this can happen. Strange. Really Strange. It seems like a Bug to me.
That said… really cool Video. Thanks. i might come back to it at some Day.
They missed something for sure
Lali-Oh Try, stellar work
Wat did u just call me
@@absolutezero7535 if you play FF2/4 or FF14 you know of the phrase Lali-oh.
In FF4 its a greeting used by the Dwarves
In FF14 the Lalafell also use it as a greeting.
@@lukasperuzovic1429 oh i know wat did u just call me is the joke ur characyer can say back when they greet u
It's Lali-ho"
the ps5 version is so bad & weird, i can almost get 30fps in 4k with a pretty old gtx970 at the same setting the console use, and the ps5 is just above 30 with a much higher gpu than the 970
Even a 10 TF console is having issue in keeping this game at stable 60
Marc looks like a younger Richard Ledbetter
Originally I played this on the PS4 for the most part it was fine, but for outside raids where there are lots of people it was a lag fest where I was literally unable to do anything, and would get killed very easily due to the stuttering.
When PS4 Pro got released I got this and the outside raids were markedly improved I was able to play more or less normally outside except for some stuttering back and forth that would cause sometimes issues.
I dropped the game around Shadowbringers launch before the Ex Trials got released I technically went back on free campaign stuff, but I didn’t honestly play except logged it logged out and deleted it.
Not sure how PS5 runs now I do wish the graphics were improved as everything looks very flat and textures are poor.
I vote for more Marc content on the DF page!
What is the game at 12:47 for the comparison of Parallax Occlusion Maps?
I second this! That game looks nice.
[Try4ce] Kameo: Elements of Power, one of the first games to use the technique.
This was so fun to watch, thank you so much for your effort.
I'm not sure who the guest star is, nor do I play ffxiv, but this was a great vid!
I have put over 400 hours across 6 years in this game and i love it
Only triple digits?!
@@cosmosofinfinity lol between work and other games dats about it but its gonna get higher i can guarantee that
Yes this game is amazing on PlayStation any version. Lol they need to optimize the ps5 version.
I wish i could play this game, but sadly time for something as big like an mmo is not something i have now
Honestly, FFXIV is really easy to enjoy as a casual player. You can complete pretty much 100% of the main story by just logging in for an hour or so as and when you feel like it.
Don't think of it as an mmo. Think of it and play it as a single player JRPG.
@@EasyAdvance would love to but the subscription is what drives me away, if i had time for a month to play constantly i totally would but if i dont have time to play during an antive subscription they i feel like im wasting money
@@dongodongo12 Oh that's understandable, but the first two stories of the game are completely free to play. A Realm Reborn and Heavensward
@@EasyAdvance well i tried doing the free trial and it has a time limit, and i did not get very far, due to not having time
I’ll be playing the PS5 version just to save hard drive space lol
Awesome Video!
I really hope Endwalker brings a lot more PS5 optimizations. I remember Yoshi-P saying (I think the same event as the PS5 reveal? or the Live Letter shortly after?) recently that the whole of Creative Business Unit 3 (so both the XIV and XVI teams) had a single PS5 dev kit to share due to the parts shortages, so Sony couldn't ship them additional ones.
A lovely change of pace. I do like the themed graphics, and while i imagine that takes a lot of effort to create and edit, it would add something going forward with themed content (Cyberpunk UI colored frame rate graph when applicable, game specific graphics for DF Retro, etc)