All About Tattoo Deposits
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- Опубліковано 23 чер 2018
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You’re CRUSHING it on the videos! Very detailed explanations. Keep em’ coming! You’re explaining the unknown questions that a lot of us have. Thanks James!
-Joe (Jesus piece half sleeve in progress)
Big Norm thanks Joe! Can't wait to get our next session going
Me too! I’m beyond excited!!! Already getting a ton of great comments on the work you’ve done on my half sleeve!
James Withee wtf what the hell how could they back out chickens , thank you for making fucking great videos always on point.
The bible says if you get body modifications you go to hell..
All of this seems common sense to me. These days if someone misses a doctor's appointment without giving a 24-hour cancellation has to pay for the visit.
It is common sense, which is why people almost never balk at the idea of a deposit when I explain my policy to them. Once in a while we get ppl that can't understand why we want the money upfront though
Common sense is rare lol
Huh... I don't have tattoos but have always wanted one. I completely understand why an artist would have these policies in place. Time is money..
You're very informative and down-to-earth. The content is educational, but still gives great Vibes like I'm talking to a friend
Michael Gomez,
Couldn't agree more!!
+James Withee, Thanks for all of the Great and Helpful information!!!
My artists made me put a deposit when I got my first tattoo. Now I dont have to as I'm on a personal level with her
Can you do a video on black skin and the best type of tattoes and styles for person of a dark brown or darker skin tone?
Like can he still get japanese style tattoos or other patterns etc
sure i'll definitely make a vid like this eventually
The explanation is always spot on and straight to the point.
Thanks for this video James! It was perfecting timing for me to see this video which helped me out a lot with understanding tattoo deposits. Thanks again! Hope you have a good one
All those policies that you have listed made perfect sense.
Loving your videos. I'm a 'Brit' living in Austria and am halfway through getting my chest piece done. Your video that featured black and grey tattoos helped me make up my mind.
I have nothing but praise for you and your videos.
Many thanks (and keep up the good work).
hey, glad you are enjoying the videos! fun fact: i was born in lakenheath, england. lived there for the first couple of years then came stateside after my father was restationed
Always looking forward to your vids. Can't wait until the topics gets more advanced
Victor Sun thanks! Yeah they will get more advanced for sure. I'm trying to create a logical progression so that I don't have to explain basic concepts while discussing more complex topics. Gotta crawl before we can walk
Love these videos man, keep em coming!
Your videos are AWESOME. Anything a client would ever want to know or need to know but were afraid to ask. Thank you.
This is all great advice. Never thought so much goes into a deposit. I don't think I've ever had to make a deposit before the pandemic, but seeing that I just got hired again, and that I'm eyeing a tattoo design, putting a deposit down for an appointment would make sense to me. Before the pandemic, I mostly did the walk-in thing. But since the pandemic, I see the sense of scheduling an appointment. So glad I found this video before I made a deposit for my next tattoo.
Always on point and always well spoken and explained straight to the point and with much honesty,,,,I always play youre videos while the client waits for the set up and all that yada yada...but it's good cause its our job to educate the client as well especialy new b's clients,,,,love youre videos brother ...Most concrete info I've seen in 13yrs ....this guy is on point fellas with all his videos on topics check the rest of his videos out and play them while you have a client waiting for you to start the session and it helps spread the word to make the artist job easier in the future ...and definitely enjoyed the video brother ..
Just want to say that I love your shop! I really enjoy the fact that you are a custom shop and don’t have flash plastered all over. I’m getting work done by Matt. I originally wanted work done by you but you were not available.... but I do want some work done by you eventually, But Matt is absolutely awesome. Keep up the great work.
thanks man! we try our best. let me know when you're ready to get something done and we can do a consulation. i appreciate the support
I didn’t even know about this but you did so good explaining it. I understand everything now, thanks 👌🏼👌🏼good ass examples too 😭👍🏼
All your videos are straight forward, down to earth and very informative. Keeping it real and professional. Subscribing now. Thanks again.
Great video, thanks. It's really helpful to get insights on how things work. Getting a tattoo can be stressful enough without worrying about all this. It really helps give confidence when going for tattoo
no problem. i know it can be intimidating if you are just jumping into this world. glad i could help
Awesome job bro, keep it up 💪🏼
Nahh after watching some of your content, im doin my second session with my artist. Kudos❤️❤️
Man. . I tried paying a deposit for my artist and he didnt want one. He better not flake on me next week, lol
Fucking love the black and grey work you do keep it up
Dude much respect, Like your approach!
dope video man said every point possible i could or have ever had to have with a client keep going man @SMOOTHINK
Well said! I totally agree with your very informative video on tattoo deposits.
I didn't know that you could put a deposit down, this gives me a lot more options
I’m a vinyl wrapper and I’ve also run into these same situations. Great video 👏🏽
James, thanks so much for explaining. The whole deposit thing is new to me. When I got my first 4 tattoos, they were all from the same guy, and the deposit thing didn't exist. We made appointments, and I kept all of them and was on time.
It's funny how what you say reminds me of my job. I'm from a totally different field (i'm a psychologist) and even if there's no deposit, each time somebody doesn't come even if that person had an appointment, we can't do anything but still make them pay for the missed appointment. I don't like doing that but at the same time, we can sometime have up to 4 hours where we just do nothing and we know that some other people still have to wait 3 months before meeting us. As you said, you spend time drawing etc a tattoo for somebody and i also recognize myself in that because (knowing the misconception one has about psychologists "they are just listening to your problems") we are our own "tool" and to make it "better" we also need to be continuously formed in our field and those formations can be quite expensive (i've seen once, 200 euros per day for 3 days). I'm not saying it's not worth it but it is hard to try to have a decent "salary" when they are many people that don't come even if they took an appointment. Recently, i had 8 appointments (it was tuesday). Only 3 people showed up and just 1 woman called 1 hour before her appointment because i called her to know if she wanted to come earlier. She didnt want to so she just cancelled it asking me if she had to pay. So i stayed from 9 am till 6pm to see 3 people because i didn't know if the others were going to come...
Ps: i'm truly sorry for my broken english ^^"
I wish I had known about your shop when I was visiting my family in Gilbert. Now I'm stuck back in Arkansas. Guess I need to plan a trip back to AZ. 😄
Dude, nice and concise explanation. Very clear with no BS. Nothing unreasonable that I heard as long as that was made clear to me before making a deposit I couldn’t see any issue. Sh*t happens sometimes and I may have to eat the deposit but I don’t think it would stop me rescheduling. Just out of curiosity what do you do if it is due to an issue with the artist or store? Or something wider like a power cut, not your fault but definitely not the clients either.
Nice video, awesome explanation
Good vid.
You definitely know your chit. My tattoo guy doesn't ask for deposits but he is also a buddy of mine.
Just had both of my hand work touched up today and voila a new vid from you popped up.
Jeff Rice nice. Yeah I do the same thing with my friends. At least with the ones I know are reliable haha
Love your channel, just subbed!
Very smart and informative. Great for people starting out or someone who is trying to better themselves. Very clear and easy to understand. Love your vids bro keep up the good work! SUBSCRIBED
thx for the sub, steve. i'll have another video up on either wednesday or thursday
New Subscriber here. Thank you for your honesty. Love your commentary🙂
Awesome honesty 🤘🤘🤘🤘🤘
I’m trying to get the courage up for my first tattoo. I’ve seen most of your videos explaining the basics. I’ve dreamed of vines on my back for a year now. It would also be a memorial tattoo. I would start with a hip or lower back piece to start to see how I handle it. I hope I can find a good artist. Thank you for your videos.
you're welcome! good luck on the first one
Super helpful bro thank you for your content
Just saw your Girl With A Pearl Earring painting on your website. It made me emotional even though I have been aware of the original for years. Weird.
the informative sounds great thank you for the help about this your the man
I'm new here & new to this UA-cam Channel. I just subscribed as well just gathering information up b4 I get tatted up n don't wanna waste this new n first tattoo artist tyme n money bcus tyme is money.💯
Great video and well explained. I can't wait to get my first tattoo possibly next month in Arizona.
thanks! come to my shop and we will try to get you taken care of if availability allows
Will do.
Thanks for this thoroughly explained video. Question: I put down a deposit but would now like a different tattoo than the one discussed at consult. Might the artist require a new deposit?
Tattoo deposits are cool with me because I’m a very on the fly person and not good at planing so when I pay a deposit it encourages me to actually get it done so a huge thank you to artests who chanrge a deposit
I'd def see you for a tat! You're so far and I'm broke! 😤😭.... For now(I been getting more clients) I had to start charging deposits for my jewelry I make. I made a whole beaded glass lingerie set for this girl then once I was ready to mail to her suddenly I can't get a hold of her. 😒 I write workouts and meal plans as well. Run me my money first cuz.
Hi, how can someone get in touch with you?
I'm interested to see the beaded glass lingerie set if you have a pic of it!
You’re Tripping bro!!Make your deposits higher!!A ton of shop owners start at 200 here in Vegas an it seems you’re more passionate and hard working then them..Dj Tambes is 400 here but he is one of our top artists in town!!Of coarse it went up tho after his ink master win though!!Worth it!!
A lot of guys I know charge higher deposits than I do, but I prolly won't change mine until I raise my rate or start having problems with people not showing up to their appointments. Right now, it doesn't happen too often and when it does I am able to use the time to handle the million other things I have to do that have built up while I've been grinding. So 100 bucks is plenty for now. Those guys you are talking about prolly have a lot more years in the game and are just way sick of fucking around with no shows lol
How do you deal with someone getting their first tattoo that has a low pain tolerance?
Guess my artist liked and trusted me. He's not new and it wasn't my 1st. Did the consult, waited for him to suggest a deposit. Was a big piece, near half my forearm. He just said "Awesome, I'll see you Friday."
I've been getting tattooed by the same couple of tattooers for a while now and they no longer ask or require deposits from me when I ask them for some new stuff.
What do you do if your tattoo artist keeps on pushing the date of the tattoo for a few months already
Wish I would have watched your videos before getting my first tattoo, would have been a lot less nervous about the process!
I've been being watching since I subscribed ☺😁. All I'm doing is getting myself all anxious for my sleeve that I'm starting in the winter 😫.
Thx for the sub!
D Mills I’m getting anxious for mine too, for some reason. A French tattoo artist I follow on Instagram will be in New York for a guest spot in March and I gave her my 100.00 deposit already. I’m nervous about missing the appointment, I’m nervous about not liking the stencil, etc.
Great information. Deposit is like insurance to make sure one will keep appointments. Good review for even seasoned clients.
Be well. 👩🎨🎨🖌💗🤗🍀🌺🦓 Liz
I just made my deposit this week. Getting a full sleeve from Jeff Gogue next year. So yeah after that deposit I’m not missing my appointment I can tell you that
My dude is cool as fuck. He's never asked for a deposit for 4 sessions.
The first time he tattooed me for like 3.5 hours, he only charged me for 3 hours, and when I went to pay with my debit card afterwards, he said that I would be charged $3 and he would get a $12 fee from the credit card company or whatever. He said that my bank was right down the street if I wanted to withdraw some cash.
He was so trusting that he let me leave with a huge tattoo without paying yet, and didn't even know my last name. I could have just dissapeared without paying... but I would never do that. He's a great artist, and a great guy, I want him to continue tattooing me.
I totally agree... you were spot on I personally feel like if u don't get asked for a deposit u might jus wanna keep moving to the next shop. that's jus me tho and with tattoos you get what you pay for. if you wanna cheap tattoo thats what it's gonna look like trying to haggle over the price for a tattoo are not considering that ur not jus paying them for the finished product itself there's a lot of time prior to the actual tattoo that is put into every tattoo, and if people are willing to spend their money on a phone or shoes why not pay more for a tattoo, that is gonna last u 20 times longer than a phone or whatever it s people waste all their money on the days but yeah deposits are a must
Very informative video. Thanks:)
Hey, James love your videos and content! What does your hat mean or say?
Very informative - it does mean that if I put a deposit but have to cancel at the last minute (illness for instance) I will at least show that I mean to get it done. I also think that deposit also pays for artists IP post payment wrt to concepts and stencils etc.
I like how all your videos don't have excessive music playing in the background while you're talking. We can actually HEAR what you're saying!
thanks! ppl have suggested to me that i put music in the background, but i think that would be kinda distracting if i put myself in the viewer's shoes. some of this stuff i discuss on this channel isn't easy to understand if it's your first time hearing it, so i don't wanna make it harder for the audience to focus while watching
Its like tattoo bail money lol i thought you were going to describe some type of phenomenon where certain types of ink might leave deposits behind in your skin or something lol. Love your videos bro!!!
Deposits make complete sense in this field. Now, IF the client calls in and cancels AND IF a walk-in actually shows up and takes that time, I’d refund the deposit.
I feel like also having a good relationship with tattoo artist helps with not having to put down a deposit. Once you show up on time for 3 tattoos they pretty much trust you. My guy never asks for one cuz he knows im gunna show up
Is there a situation in which say the client calls a week or two before the appointment and asks to reschedule for the back of the line or something like that where the deposit wouldn't get voided?
My artists dont take deposits from me, but I always show up early for my appointments and always have enough for the tattoo and a $100 tip unless it’s a big piece, then the tip would go higher.
My deposit was $600 .. two week to go before my first session . I can’t wait for the pain !!!!!!!
the only gripe I have with the deposit is when like James mentioned the times he didn't believe he was up for the task or bit off more than he could chew, I don't believe many artists would let their ego get in the way of that. An artist would whip something up the customer would come in unimpressed and now has to choose between losing a deposit or a subpar tattoo.
What are expectations on tips for the tattoo artist? Based on time vs price?
Also do you tip the owner if they are the one doing the tattoo? Is it a touchy subject? Is it a standard percent like in the restaurant world?
I put a deposit down for my first session on my half sleeve, but the artist didn't make me leave one for the second session a month later.
EpicWood usually the initial deposit will roll over into subsequent appointments and get deducted from the final session on a multiple session piece
My artist didn't ask me for a deposit 😂 Now I'm worried I'm going to rock up on Wednesday with no appointment
I love this video
i fully agree with deposits
Good information.
What payment processor do you use for your deposits? I've heard many stories about Artists loosing to disputes
At what point in the process do you put the deposit down? Say like I want to go into a shop and look at portfolios, I find a artist I like and want to discuss my design ideas with them and get a price quote. Do I have to put down the deposit before they will be willing to do that or do I wait till after that before they sketch something up for me?
What about kill-fees? What if a client taps out and can't continue? Do your clients have to pay for a lining day for a large tattoo and then pay again for the color day, etc? How do those things factor into your pricing?? Thanks! Great videos, bro. Awesome info.
I respect Sir Twice because he returned my deposit fee. He was having traveling issues and we couldn't reschedule. Still going to wait for the day to come when it happens tho!!
Seems like a reasonable, ethical business owner to me. I’d gladly do business with a guy like this.
What does your cap say? Thank you:)
Hi James, I would like your thoughts on this scenario. I was planning on going to a tattoo convention and placed a deposit down with an artist that I had no issues with. Now the deposit was made over 4 months beforehand when the convention started I came down with a cold so I had to cancel the day before. I was willing to reschedule for the next year’s convention but the the artist would not reschedule for that time. Now since the artist was not will to work with me should they not refund the deposit?
I definitely understand why it's needed , but a question that popped in my head. What if someone puts the deposit down and looking forward to their appointment, but suddenly a family member passes. If they call the tattoo shop and says " I'm not in the condition to get a tattoo I just lost someone is there a way I can get my deposit to pay for funeral arrangements" would they receive that deposit back or would the tattoo artist void the deposit?
Thank god I watched this video about deposit cuz I’m planning about using my deposit for cover up tattoo...
The shop I go to they refund the deposit if you announce with at least 48 hours ahead the cancellation or reprogram for a different day with 48 hours in advance
Why do some artists only book full day sessions with set prices, vs hourly, or piece by piece pricing? The artist I go to only does full days and I'm not sure what the advantages and disadvantages of this really are. Thanks!
EpicWood if an artist books only full days, it's probably because he likes to work on large projects only. I usually book full days, although I don't have a flat day rate that i charge. Some guys do though so that they can give a small discount on the hourly rate while at the same time encouraging clients to book longer sessions
df is this you playing outside of spiderman kevin 😂😂😂
$100-$200 is super fare for a deposit AS LONG ITS PART OF THE COST OF THE TATTOO. I knew some one who charged $200 deposit and $100 for the drawing, not a fan of that.
GOT YOU ON THE 1000th LIKE FAM
I wish I could visit your shop! But I am in the midwest.😳
stop by my booth next time i do the chicago or detroit expos!
James Withee Really? Cool. I just subbed. Let me know. If we can make it my fam would be THRILLED. I have my idea all planned out...except I'm not very good at drawing anymore.😳Just not sure where I want mine. Too old for big ass crazy shit. For me its a fam thing. Idk about the others. Thanks!✌😎🌵thats my thing. The saguaro. With flowers the fams colors.😃
I didnt know you had a channel? I subscribed. Hopefully i see you again soon
yes i do. do u know me in real life?
James Withee Yeah. Ive got tattoos from you, sam and ester? I think thats how you spell his name?
ah you must be talking about nestor. he's one of my best buds. what kind of piece did i do on u?
James Withee you did scripture on my forearm, Sam did my daughters name on my arm and Nestor did a big demon skull piece on my forearm... i think ive only get one from you but cant remember?
What would you say to someone who wants a $700 deposit, before even doing a consultation?
What billing info of address is that customer address or card address
I dropped 100 bucks gave a 5 day notice.. do you take it or give it back..??? I’ve already been inked by him kinda odd ..
so can you specifically ask for an artist to do a mock sketch for your tattoo so you can have it for later? Like what i thought tattoo appointments were was you first scheduled a consultation, where they sit you down, you tell them what you want, and they say what your price range would be for your idea, then they schedule your appointment once they get everything done and it will probably be anywhere from a week to 2 months away, then they might email you a mock sketch of what they might be thinking for your tattoo, something done in maybe 10 minutes, very quick with a pencil to make sure all the pieces are there. And that way you can go in and change anything you might need changed before you sit down for your appointment and get it tattooed. but since this doesn't seem to be the case anymore am i allowed to get a mock sketch or is that something that isn't allowed in the tattoo world?
you might be able to convince some artists to do this, but not a very skilled or busy one. we don't have time to waste doing mock sketches for maybe clients. i mean, if you go to a restaurant and ask them to cook a steak just so you can "see if you like it and think about it," do you think they would? fuck no! they have other people in line behind you that are actually hungry and ready to eat
I think the question was more that they want a sketch for a keepsake AS WELL as getting the tattoo? The way they asked was not clear on the point, your analogy was good to the point you addressed, but I think they meant more having both.
I have a question that doesn't really matter but I'm curious:
When you do a tattoo, obviously a portion of the price goes to the shop. But when you take, say, a $100 deposit and the client doesn't show up, do you keep the full $100 or does part of it still go to the shop?
it depends on the shop. i've been at some where the shop owner wants his half of the deposit as soon as it's collected. most shops don't do that. i feel like the artist should keep the whole thing cuz it's his time being wasted, not the shop owners
@@JamesWithee I agree to that my man!! by the way congratts! great videos and education also for artists ,keep up the great work!👌👌
100% agree some people suck…deposit does show who is serious vs not.
I did an $185 deposit on my forearm piece, so it comes down im 2 days from tattoo day and my grandma died. I called and canceled and the artist said i can't have my deposit back and if i wanted the tattoo id have to pay full price again. Ended up getting the tattoo from a different guy. Btw the $185 deposit was for a $375 tattoo.
My artist wasn't honest about his abilities and drew directly on my skin so I was only able to see the conceptual idea not the actual work. My gut was telling me to walk away, but I was afraid of losing my $150 deposit. Lessoned learned the hard way. I didn't bother to go back for the second session, but now I'm looking to get it covered.
That would suck ... I’m really sorry about that .. getting a tattoo should be a fun , enjoyable experience.. it’s a big deal.
Do you take a deposit every time for a piece that nay take 4 or 5 sessions?
no, the deposit is collected before the first appointment and rolls over into each subsequent appointment until the tattoo is completed. the deposit is then subtracted from the cost of the final session. if at any time the person's deposit is forfeited due their violation of the agreement, they have to put down a new one before continuing with the next session