@@LezArtist5iGit’s actually good. I do miss Niles. He’s my favorite. The new series is completely different. I didn’t think of like it, but o look forward to a new episode every week. Now the entire season is on paramount. I’ll have to get the service back by next fall. The new actors are actually very good. I’m now rewatching the original Frasier. It’s always been a favorite of mine. I was in college and then grad school when it was on so I didn’t have time to watch. But when my son was born years later the reruns would come on around 4/5 am. I loved getting up to feed my son and see Frasier coming on. My husband never helped out. I was basically a single parent. I’d get up and feed and get him back to sleep and then ready for an extremely busy day as owner and provider at a small family practice. Thankfully both of my children got to go to my mom’s on 3 days I saw patients. On my 4 days as just owner my kids did everything with me. I miss those times now. My kids are in their twenties one in college and one just graduated last may. Now I’m divorced and haven’t been able to work in 11 years due to chronic health problems. I’d love to go back and rewatching now makes me happy.
"Frasier" was my favorite show, ever. The cast was incredible. In Kelsy's personal life, I've never heard of anyone with more tragedy. His beloved sister was abducted, raped and murdered by three monsters. This alone almost destroyed him and he has to go back for parole hearings trying to release the monsters on the rest of society. Therefore, he has to relive the horror of his sister's brutal death. As a child, his father was shot and killed in a drive by shooting in their front yard. His two brothers drowned or died in a shark attack while diving off the coast of Florida. I don't know how the man is still standing, let alone launching a new show. I wish him the best.
They were his 2 half-brothers, Stephen died maternally of an embolism and Billy unfortunately never found them, but it is thought that Billy was attacked by a shark
Mine too! I bought the series. Love everything about it. I moved to Washington State 23 yrs ago. Been to Seattle many times and Space Needle. Too bad Seattle has bern trashed. Do to high crime and BLM it’s totally wrecked.
I named my first son Kelsey. Cheers was my favorite show back in the day (still is) and I watched it every week while pregnant. I fell in love with the name. I now have a 6'4" Marine trained, wonderful 34 year old named Kelsey. ❤
@timpike5834 I'm glad to read that. Especially since she never appeared on Frasier. But where does that information come from? (I always like reading about friendships in casts than stupid drama)
I hate people using the name KAREN. That is so not fair. It’s not my name, my family’s, or any of my friends. It’s just ugly to dirty a person’s name who has done nothing to deserve this animosity. Stop it!
@@Amanda-bj4eo Actually, if you named your child "Lilith" it wasn't after Bebe's character as "Lilith" was Lucifer's wife, hence Lilith on Cheer's personality, coloring and name! Bride of Satan, if you will. I'm sure you daughter will tell you about it one day though
Not to mention it's one of the single most used AI voice in a huge amount of videos on UA-cam. Yeah, some celebrate mediocrity and it is lazy and sucks.
This was excellent! What a pleasant surprise, finding this write-up. I’ve binge-watched all of Cheers and Frasier multiple times, and I love them both.
yes i want another season i think it will develop the characters more and i love Kelsey Grammer as Frasier i watched Frasier the original everyday for 11 years just over and over. i love it
Years ago, I heard Shelly Long was fired because of a conflict with Rhea Pearlman. Now, Kelsey Grammer seems to be saying that there was tension between them as well. Makes me think the producers were just trying to be positive about the whole thing, since it happened so long ago.
Shelly Long was not fired she chose to leave. She wouldn't renew her contract after season 5. She wanted to spend more time with her 2-year-old, wanted to pursue film roles and was overall tired of the role.
Boomers have LONG hated Shelly Long because Diane was a bitch to Sam but also because Diane didn’t accept his shit. Neither of those is allowed if you wanna be liked by Boomers. You must be who and what a man wants at all times. Then Shelly left their favorite show for her own reasons. They’ve created and followed so many false narratives about her over the last 35 or so years and Kelsey Grammer is just bullshitting because he’s got a book and new show to sell. The “everyone hated Diane and also Shelly” story is so old but it’s also wrong.
I was and always will be a big fan of the original series, having said that, I wish Kelsey and co every success in the reboot. I don't subscribe to Paramount , So I've only seen bits and pieces of the new series. From what I have seen, its got some funny dynamics. If anyone has the ability in a series to make a comeback or move head, its Kelsey Grammer, he proved that long ago. The only aspect that strikes me as a negative is actually the character. from what I have seen, he seems completely put out that his dad is anywhere on the Planet.
not sure why people would bitch about hating Grammar as a character so much....yikes. Don't hear anyone complaining about Sam's character and the way he was written was damn appalling.
Yeah I think Levine was just being politely diplomatic. I can remember all the way back to when Cheers was being shown on TV, that the newspaper gossip columns of the day had the occasional bit about how disliked Shelley Long was within the industry due to her overbearing nature.
The Cheers bar and Frasiers Executive Apartment were some of the best set's that I can remember of any sit com series. The mood,lighting design remains perfection today.
The Diane character was the best of the show. The show was never the same without Shelley. I don't hate the Frasier character but didn't think the character should have been in the show long term.
I am a Paramount+ subscriber. I just binged watched every episode of the first series, Frazier, and I'm now watching Ep 9 of Frazier 2023. I'm not enjoying this one as much as the first, but I'm enjoying it nonetheless. Your critiques were very apropos in my opinion.
Frazier basically took Diane’s part or place in the bar. After some great writing of Diane and Sam struggling to get engaged, Diane’s Arc was less connected to the bar. There was one episode when Diane was stuck in the floor.
Cheers was and is great and really enjoyed the show. What really attracted me to the show was Shelley Long. I loved her intelligence and perkiness. I found her extremely attractive and a delight. I grew to like the others but when Shelley left my interest level dropped quite a bit let's say by half. Never quite the spark. It was highly intensive and funny with her and that was gone.
This narrative is full of contradictions. Bottom line, if producers didn't like Shelley Long, I suspect it may have had something to do with one or more of them being spurned? It wouldn't be the first time this happened in Hollywood.
It's always a case of he said vs. she said. Personally I don't like Shelly Long as an actor. Keksey G. is a fine actor messy personal life. I've only seen one episode of the rebooted Fraser. It's okay. Merry Christmas to all!!!🎄🎅🎁❄️☃️!!!
Kelsey's personal life. I don't like what I saw on the reality show. It showed how horrible and deceitful he was to his ex-wife. As an actor he is okay
I've watched Frasier reruns and enjoyed them. My shifts working at the hospital and going to my son's ballgames that my tv watching was not often. I liked Kirstie Alley in movies and a short tv show she had. I know we fans think we know an actor. I always thought she would be a nice person to know. I was so sorry when she died.
I didn't think after the first episode of the new Frasier I would be that interested but now I am up to date with it and I am enjoying it very much I would like to see a second season to see what develops! And, fyi, I guess it was Shelley Long that was going to be the" problem child"! Either she is that good an actress or she really isn't that nice in person that's my impression of her for many many years now!!🙃
I had the same initial response, but I'm glad I stuck with it. It still needs to find its footing, but I'm glad it will be back for a second season, assuming it will.
Kelsey Grammer was a boss in real life. He cheated on his wife with his yoga instructor, then moved the yoga instructor into his spare house. Then asked his wife to move out, and the yoga instructor to switch from the spare house into the main house. Dang.
You are leaving a lot out of the story. His wife was definitely not a gem. Now he’s remarried to a young flight attendant he met and has young children. I think he’s still handsome. I’d probably prefer the bad boy up actual Frasier - definitely when I was young. Thankfully I’ve changed after an unwanted divorce in my early forties. Now at 49 I’d prefer a Frasier, but they don’t prefer me at this age - unless they are in their late sixties and seventies. Lol!
Was that the wife that was on a Real Housewives show? She was pretty and I thought they broke up when he went to NY to be in a play? Well, there was a woman involved
The monotone voice is reflective of an insufferably boring script that drones on and on using trite phrases over and over and over, (complexity, trajectory, multi-faceted, etc.) never moving beyond Kelsey Grammer and Shelley Long. If you want 30 minutes of “word salad” describing Grammer/Long relationship without dishing the dirt, then this film is for you.
I lost all respect for Kelsey Grammar when he cheated on Camille & had her go with him to an award ceremony for show & kept the public in the dark about his extramarital affair! Kind of like Will Smith when he hit Chris Rock! Even IF I DID enjoy a movie or show that they were in, I won’t watch it anymore because their actions affected me that negatively.
What???!!! You're saying that Kelsey Grammer cheated on his 'Gorgeous wife Camille'???!!! I don't believe it!!! I only know that when 'Some late night talk show host' asked Kelsey Grammer what really ended his marriage to Camille.......He said that she just didn't like 'SEX'. That's it. And, I believed him, because, 'Men are Men', and, that 'Camille' was 'So f--king Gorgeous and sensuous looking', that it would "Drive any normal, healthy, heterosexual man" to "Drink, drugs, depression, and, worse", if they couldn't make love to her, on a 'Regular healthy basis'!!! 'A regular healthy basis'!!! Oh yeah!!! 😀😃😄😁😆😅🤣
I didn't care for Diane, probably because of her juggling Sam and Frazier. I missed Coach, he was hilarious! And Rebecca was a treat along with that knuckle head know it all Letter Carrier. Norm was good too, and they had Paul and a few other characters that was good so I didn't miss Diane. And as much as I love "Frasier", I can't stand Lilith on either show, but I do admire Bebe Newirth. And I just LOVE the narrator's voice! Isn't he the one on BET for biographies?
Kelsey did a great job as Frazier. To make it seem like he was only there to make Long mad, seems like a disrespect to Kelsey's ability to make Frazier a great character
Long quit Cheers to do "The Money Pit". They told her no, she was under contract but she had already filmed a chunk of it next to Tom Hanks. The movie, despite Hanks, was a dud and when she asked to return to Cheers they said no.
Funny enough I didn’t know who sang the Frasier theme song. I even looked it up on the internet one day. I was in my late thirties too! I didn’t know it was Kelsey!! Now I have no idea how I missed it. Sounds just like him. Pretty bad for a 130 IQ and grad degree and former medical studies professor. My kids still remind me by asking who sings the song every time a show goes off. It makes them laugh even as teens and in early twenties. I’d make fun of me too! Clueless !!
@@arribaficationwineho32 You are welcome! I am so glad I wasn’t the only one. I seriously spent brain time thinking about this every time I heard it. I swear my thoughts confuse me! I feel sorry for anyone trying to understand me. Thanks for letting me know about you too! It makes me feel better! Lol! Can you just imagine the look Kelsey Grammar would’ve given us if we had run into him and asked him who sang the closing song? He would’ve called for security. Lol !
And I'm sure it's safe to say they were 2 American kids growing up in the heartland seeing as sam was a baseball star, hell! He had diannes debutante in the back seat of some other guy name jacks car. Sure they were suckin chili dogs outside tastie freeze😊 sadly now we have mick donalds & dairy queen, bring back tasti freeze pleeze
I liked the Frasier episode where they met their school bully. The plumbers, in fact its the only one I remember. I will never watch Cheers again becsuse Ive seen them all, back in the day, but the main reason is that I hate the theme song with a passion! Yes Pure Hatred of that song!
Sam and Diane were a great storyline for the show and the 2 actors did a wonderful job playing off each other. I hated when i found out Diane (Long) was leaving but then i think it gave the show a fresh new life and the show may not have lasted 11 seasons had it stayed based on Sam and Diane. The intro of Rebecca gave Sam more funny stories as a babe hound and after the couple story of Sam & Diane ended, it also seemed to allow the other characters to be shown and displayed even more.
The new show is cleverly written. I didn’t think I’d like it but it’s pretty good. The love/hate chemistry betwen “Frasier” and “Lilith” is still there.
John Ratzenberger was originally down to play Frasier. Until the producers saw Kelsey Grammar. Wonder if that would have worked out as well in the long run?
Okay this is really nitpicky, but In the show Frazier I found it unrealistic that a Dr of psychiatry that had no famous book that he had written, no previous account of a showbiz career would become a rich radio talk show host. In more than one episode they mentioned that he could become syndicated. So, to work 3 hours a day and to balk about having to do sleepytime tea commercials and not having a practice anymore.... I'm just saying the radio game isn't that lucrative if you don't write books to sell, don't do commercials, and are not syndicated. + not seeing patients.
@@psiloveyou1964 Frasier and his agent Bebe did 1 week Co-host of a morning talk show, while they were on hiatus from radio and renegotiating his radio contract. He would have made more money with the TV show. I also remember when Frazier and Ross went to Spokane because Spokane just picked up his radio show... Spokane is still in WA, not much of a syndication. If it were syndicated to NYC that would be a far bigger audience. I just remember Frasier with his high brow taste of the arts, buying from auction houses, having dinner parties, plus a luxury apartment with a fantastic view would have been very expensive. I lived in Seattle, it ain't cheap. The buying coffee everyday at Café Nervosa would have been a small fortune right there.
Niles on the other hand was married to a rich woman, had his own practice that included many group therapy sessions, and wrote papers for the medical supplements. His had a more real depiction of wealth. Unless Frasier had stocks and bonds... making money for working 3 hours a day/5 days a week is stretching the imagination.
Never cared for shelly longs acting or character on show i prefered Christie Ali's role Grammers show Frasier had a great cast Loved the show The new Frasier i was doubtful of resurrection of Frasier 2.0 after 2 episodes I'm gleefully surprised😮Its got Jokes good cast and that guy ALAN 😂 GIVE IT A GO &Not disappointed with Lillith's guest appearance 🎉Im warming up to this new Frasier yup im hooked ❤Freddy not so great as niles son only charachter i find annoying and not a good fit 😢Otherwise better than i would have beleived going to go watch episode 4! 😂❤
Shelly was a good actress. Kirstie was good too, but Diane was great on the show and in that role. Her personality was so good in contrast to Sam. Of course Kelsey want on to his own very successful show for years.
Wasn't Kelsey Grammer accused of having sex with an underage girl? Even though he wasn't charged, there was communication between the two of them of a personal nature. He has had a lot of stuff happen in his life. This is one person that I would think of being real sketchy and pushing the moral boundaries to the the limit.
The producers' explanation for keeping Kelsey, makes sense. I think Kelsey is sincere in his explanation, but his perception is mistaken. Just as a practical, financial matter, producers would not keep an actor to continue friction between two actors.
I loved cheers and frasier. But I can’t be the only one who sees this as a typical Scientology ploy. They liked the character of Frasier(and Kelsey) when he made Scientologists and Scientologist Alley look good. They 💩 on him when he became a huge star portraying a psychiatrist. The Cult of Scientology hates psychiatry
A character like Cliff Clavin would never work today, because his fellow bar flies would instantly shut down his know-it-all banter by googling on their phones. Same goes for “Married With Children.” Al Bundy taking his phone to the bathroom instead of a newspaper, would not have the same comedic effect.
Ugh. The title is misleading, almost in a way that makes it clickbait . 🤨 The photo and the title suggest Kelsey couldn't stand Allie, and yet the video notes Allie supported Kelsey and that he was very fond of her. Unethical to mislead people in this way.
This is expected when you have a Lead driver that has a vast depth of character to get around.. If Frasier had allowed the first 4 episodes for character development, the new cast then they could have supported him much better than being mere characturs of the past... Sadly this wasn't done
I think the new Frasier is funny. I think the characters need more time to understand themselves in their characters. It’s a natural progression to see frasier explore fatherhood in the next chapter of his life. I do agree the older cast seem to be funnier. I think the recent clips on UA-cam, I laughed heartily. I want to see how they will progress, there still story to be told. I think the upset from disappointed fan,s are invested to see all the old faces. But even the first Fraizer (after cheers) was a reinvention of new cast members apart from cheers). They are doing a new thing. I think Alan is also an archetype of Niles, the other female colleague as Ross. He mentioned playing the sons of frasier n Nile’s, probably need more time to settle into their roles and hone in on their craft. I hear that doesn’t properly happen even in the best of tv shows…until after 3rd or 5th season. I think it’s still charming.
![All of doctor Lilith Sternin's dramatic entrances [Frasier 1993] [Frasier 2023]](http://i.ytimg.com/vi/b3UsKyPM3Wo/mqdefault.jpg)
I want Niles back too! The way the two "brothers" played off each other was nothing short of genius. 😅😂🤣
Yeah I refuse to watch the new Frasier series, without Niles(David Hyde Pierce).
@@LezArtist5iGit’s actually good. I do miss Niles. He’s my favorite. The new series is completely different. I didn’t think of like it, but o look forward to a new episode every week. Now the entire season is on paramount. I’ll have to get the service back by next fall. The new actors are actually very good. I’m now rewatching the original Frasier. It’s always been a favorite of mine. I was in college and then grad school when it was on so I didn’t have time to watch. But when my son was born years later the reruns would come on around 4/5 am. I loved getting up to feed my son and see Frasier coming on. My husband never helped out. I was basically a single parent. I’d get up and feed and get him back to sleep and then ready for an extremely busy day as owner and provider at a small family practice. Thankfully both of my children got to go to my mom’s on 3 days I saw patients. On my 4 days as just owner my kids did everything with me. I miss those times now. My kids are in their twenties one in college and one just graduated last may. Now I’m divorced and haven’t been able to work in 11 years due to chronic health problems. I’d love to go back and rewatching now makes me happy.
"Frasier" was my favorite show, ever. The cast was incredible. In Kelsy's personal life, I've never heard of anyone with more tragedy. His beloved sister was abducted, raped and murdered by three monsters. This alone almost destroyed him and he has to go back for parole hearings trying to release the monsters on the rest of society. Therefore, he has to relive the horror of his sister's brutal death. As a child, his father was shot and killed in a drive by shooting in their front yard. His two brothers drowned or died in a shark attack while diving off the coast of Florida. I don't know how the man is still standing, let alone launching a new show. I wish him the best.
They were his 2 half-brothers, Stephen died maternally of an embolism and Billy unfortunately never found them, but it is thought that Billy was attacked by a shark
@@MissIntensivo "Maternally"?
@@Galen-864sorry google translate. .
I mean Probabley
Mine too! I bought the series. Love everything about it. I moved to Washington State 23 yrs ago. Been to Seattle many times and Space Needle. Too bad Seattle has bern trashed. Do to high crime and BLM it’s totally wrecked.
@@rosebudadkins6803 I live in the "real" western Washington on the Olympic Peninsula, and the Emerald City has been destroyed utterly.
I named my first son Kelsey. Cheers was my favorite show back in the day (still is) and I watched it every week while pregnant. I fell in love with the name. I now have a 6'4" Marine trained, wonderful 34 year old named Kelsey. ❤
Why would they have a photo of him next to Kirstie Alley for this video? A little misleading.
It's called click bait!
@@zlewis9484 Why would that be more clickbait than him next to Shelley Long though? And that would actually be accurate.
@timpike5834 I'm glad to read that. Especially since she never appeared on Frasier. But where does that information come from? (I always like reading about friendships in casts than stupid drama)
Click bait!
@@alexistrebexis3195
Maybe because no one dislikes Shelly Long but a lot disliked Kirsty because she was a scientologist.
Come to think of it, Shelly/Diane was the first "Karen", before being a "Karen" was a thing!
I hate people using the name KAREN. That is so not fair. It’s not my name, my family’s, or any of my friends. It’s just ugly to dirty a person’s name who has done nothing to deserve this animosity. Stop it!
@@noracharles80 You're absolutely right - it's not fair. But I must say that if I were a woman, I'd rather have the name "Karen" than "Alexa" LOL.
Gotta feel for those guys named "Joe" as well. I mean, how would you feel if your name were always part of the phrase "Joe Schmoe"?!!
@@noracharles80 Thank you 😊
@@karenhaynes8850 Don’t let them get to you. Tell them you would rather be known as a Karen, than a dick like them!😉
Lilith was always my favorite. Love her!❤
Mine too ❤
Lilith was very attractive, loved her smart wit.
I named my daughter after Bebe's character! ❤
@@Amanda-bj4eo Actually, if you named your child "Lilith" it wasn't after Bebe's character as "Lilith" was Lucifer's wife, hence Lilith on Cheer's personality, coloring and name! Bride of Satan, if you will. I'm sure you daughter will tell you about it one day though
"Frazier" was the best of the 2 shows.absolutely!!! I laughed and laughed through it!!!🤣🤣🤣
Sounds like an AI voice . In fact I'm sure of it with it's mispronunciations of obvious words --- the monotone grates on the ear .
Remember not to watch this channel again.
Not to mention it's one of the single most used AI voice in a huge amount of videos on UA-cam. Yeah, some celebrate mediocrity and it is lazy and sucks.
It's a shame, because the writing is quite good.
Hate AI.
This whole thing was written by AI.@@yvettescheiman4991
This was excellent! What a pleasant surprise, finding this write-up. I’ve binge-watched all of Cheers and Frasier multiple times, and I love them both.
Kelsey playing of Kirstie Alley was just one of those great interactions such a natural flow of energy
I loved Frasier show
Every single character was amazing ( I mean actors )
A m a z I n g !,
LOVE KELSEY ❤
It will be interesting to see how these AI voices develop and become more refined. At this point in time they just plain suck.
No no😅
Think of the jobs it will take away for no improvement in performance.
How many times can the electronic narrator say the same things over and over.
Grammer had the longest lasting spinoff.
yes i want another season i think it will develop the characters more and i love Kelsey Grammer as Frasier i watched Frasier the original everyday for 11 years just over and over. i love it
I loved Cheers!!! Still watch the reruns!
Me too
TV just ain’t as good as it used to be. 😢
Years ago, I heard Shelly Long was fired because of a conflict with Rhea Pearlman. Now, Kelsey Grammer seems to be saying that there was tension between them as well. Makes me think the producers were just trying to be positive about the whole thing, since it happened so long ago.
9:04 😊
The actor that played Carla's husband was fired at Rea Perlman's behest because he said she was a bad kisser.
Shelly Long was not fired she chose to leave. She wouldn't renew her contract after season 5. She wanted to spend more time with her 2-year-old, wanted to pursue film roles and was overall tired of the role.
But she was on Frasier too?
Boomers have LONG hated Shelly Long because Diane was a bitch to Sam but also because Diane didn’t accept his shit. Neither of those is allowed if you wanna be liked by Boomers. You must be who and what a man wants at all times. Then Shelly left their favorite show for her own reasons. They’ve created and followed so many false narratives about her over the last 35 or so years and Kelsey Grammer is just bullshitting because he’s got a book and new show to sell. The “everyone hated Diane and also Shelly” story is so old but it’s also wrong.
Clickbait! Grammer liked Kristy.
KELSEY GRAMMER IS AN AMASING ACTOR
Indeed
She didn't like Kelsey? Then why did she guest star on Frasier some years later???
Miscommunication. She disliked Frasier, not Kelsey
He was successful at that point and she wasn’t
I was and always will be a big fan of the original series, having said that, I wish Kelsey and co every success in the reboot. I don't subscribe to Paramount , So I've only seen bits and pieces of the new series. From what I have seen, its got some funny dynamics. If anyone has the ability in a series to make a comeback or move head, its Kelsey Grammer, he proved that long ago. The only aspect that strikes me as a negative is actually the character. from what I have seen, he seems completely put out that his dad is anywhere on the Planet.
not sure why people would bitch about hating Grammar as a character so much....yikes. Don't hear anyone complaining about Sam's character and the way he was written was damn appalling.
Shelley was a big reason I watched the show. I couldn't care less about all the "hate her" hoopla.
Yeah I think Levine was just being politely diplomatic.
I can remember all the way back to when Cheers was being shown on TV, that the newspaper gossip columns of the day had the occasional bit about how disliked Shelley Long was within the industry due to her overbearing nature.
The Cheers bar and Frasiers Executive Apartment were some of the best set's that I can remember of any sit com series. The mood,lighting design remains perfection today.
Click bait with that picture.
If Kelsey Grammer dislikes Shelley long like this video seems to be suggesting then why does he want her back for season 2 of the Frasier re-boot
I doubt there was any real tension between Kelsey and Shelly, for if there had been, why would she have made a couple of guest appearances on Frazier?
The Diane character was the best of the show. The show was never the same without Shelley. I don't hate the Frasier character but didn't think the character should have been in the show long term.
I am a Paramount+ subscriber. I just binged watched every episode of the first series, Frazier, and I'm now watching Ep 9 of Frazier 2023. I'm not enjoying this one as much as the first, but I'm enjoying it nonetheless. Your critiques were very apropos in my opinion.
I didn’t like Frasier on cheers but I loved the show Frasier. I watch it all the time on Hulu.
I loved this series and Norm was my favourite.❤
This would be great if done with Night Court.
One of the great characters of all time in any medium.
Grammar did a excellent job as Frasier Crain he was perfect for that role
Frazier basically took Diane’s part or place in the bar. After some great writing of Diane and Sam struggling to get engaged, Diane’s
Arc was less connected to the bar. There was one episode when Diane was stuck in the floor.
This is interesting then how come Shelley Long was on the Frasier spin off in two different episodes?
Yeah, that’s what I’m thinking.
And he wants her to return full time.
I didn’t know that!
Cheers was and is great and really enjoyed the show. What really attracted me to the show was Shelley Long. I loved her intelligence and perkiness. I found her extremely attractive and a delight. I grew to like the others but when Shelley left my interest level dropped quite a bit let's say by half. Never quite the spark. It was highly intensive and funny with her and that was gone.
What happened to the AI reading the script? At 9 minutes in it starts mispronouncing almost every other word.
I had no idea there was an issue with Shelly Long. She was the reason I never liked Cheers, yet Fraser is in my top 3 favorites of all time.
Why did he have her his new show if he couldn’t stand her.?
@@ckaydwfor the viewers it would bring
She had contractual obligations
Didn’t Shelly Long appear on Frasier.???
Yes, twice that I remember
She thought she would be made a regular
Yes she did, so she can’t have been that bad.
"sea-son"? Electronic voice. I wonder if the script is Chat Bot too.
also it can't say :"reverberate" either.
His spirit, strength and talent is beyond imaginable!
This narrative is full of contradictions.
Bottom line, if producers didn't like Shelley Long, I suspect it may have had something to do with one or more of them being spurned? It wouldn't be the first time this happened in Hollywood.
Hard to believe when he had her as a guest in several of Frasier episodes.
It's always a case of he said vs. she said.
Personally I don't like
Shelly Long as an actor.
Keksey G. is a fine actor messy personal life.
I've only seen one episode of the rebooted Fraser. It's okay.
Merry Christmas to all!!!🎄🎅🎁❄️☃️!!!
Kelsey's personal life. I don't like what I saw on the reality show. It showed how horrible and deceitful he was to his ex-wife. As an actor he is okay
Shelly thought she was the real star of the show and she was a Prima Donna....IMHO
Wait! What? I love Frazier 2.0. I find it hilarious and really hope the series continues.
Streaming series will never match the numbers that Free Network shows could achieve though. But things change.
Same Kathy :-) Love the show and looking forward to S2.
I've watched Frasier reruns and enjoyed them. My shifts working at the hospital and going to my son's ballgames that my tv watching was not often. I liked Kirstie Alley in movies and a short tv show she had. I know we fans think we know an actor. I always thought she would be a nice person to know. I was so sorry when she died.
So why did she pop up later in Frazier?
Well done. Excellent analysis.
I didn't think after the first episode of the new Frasier I would be that interested but now I am up to date with it and I am enjoying it very much I would like to see a second season to see what develops! And, fyi, I guess it was Shelley Long that was going to be the" problem child"! Either she is that good an actress or she really isn't that nice in person that's my impression of her for many many years now!!🙃
I had the same initial response, but I'm glad I stuck with it. It still needs to find its footing, but I'm glad it will be back for a second season, assuming it will.
Kelsey Grammer was a boss in real life. He cheated on his wife with his yoga instructor, then moved the yoga instructor into his spare house. Then asked his wife to move out, and the yoga instructor to switch from the spare house into the main house. Dang.
You are leaving a lot out of the story. His wife was definitely not a gem. Now he’s remarried to a young flight attendant he met and has young children. I think he’s still handsome. I’d probably prefer the bad boy up actual Frasier - definitely when I was young. Thankfully I’ve changed after an unwanted divorce in my early forties. Now at 49 I’d prefer a Frasier, but they don’t prefer me at this age - unless they are in their late sixties and seventies. Lol!
Was that the wife that was on a Real Housewives show? She was pretty and I thought they broke up when he went to NY to be in a play? Well, there was a woman involved
The monotone voice is reflective of an insufferably boring script that drones on and on using trite phrases over and over and over, (complexity, trajectory, multi-faceted, etc.) never moving beyond Kelsey Grammer and Shelley Long. If you want 30 minutes of “word salad” describing Grammer/Long relationship without dishing the dirt, then this film is for you.
I lost all respect for Kelsey Grammar when he cheated on Camille & had her go with him to an award ceremony for show & kept the public in the dark about his extramarital affair! Kind of like Will Smith when he hit Chris Rock! Even IF I DID enjoy a movie or show that they were in, I won’t watch it anymore because their actions affected me that negatively.
What???!!! You're saying that Kelsey Grammer cheated on his 'Gorgeous wife Camille'???!!! I don't believe it!!! I only know that when 'Some late night talk show host' asked Kelsey Grammer what really ended his marriage to Camille.......He said that she just didn't like 'SEX'. That's it. And, I believed him, because, 'Men are Men', and, that 'Camille' was 'So f--king Gorgeous and sensuous looking', that it would "Drive any normal, healthy, heterosexual man" to "Drink, drugs, depression, and, worse", if they couldn't make love to her, on a 'Regular healthy basis'!!! 'A regular healthy basis'!!! Oh yeah!!! 😀😃😄😁😆😅🤣
I have to agree with you. Cheaters are scumbags. Be honest and upfront by ending your current relationship first.
Loved cheers and it's cast. However... Why use an AI voice? İt's so disconcerting.
I didn't care for Diane, probably because of her juggling Sam and Frazier. I missed Coach, he was hilarious! And Rebecca was a treat along with that knuckle head know it all Letter Carrier. Norm was good too, and they had Paul and a few other characters that was good so I didn't miss Diane. And as much as I love "Frasier", I can't stand Lilith on either show, but I do admire Bebe Newirth. And I just LOVE the narrator's voice! Isn't he the one on BET for biographies?
(Sigh) I thought this was going to be an actual interview with KG not the overly used AI generated voice. 😌
Kelsey did a great job as Frazier. To make it seem like he was only there to make Long mad, seems like a disrespect to Kelsey's ability to make Frazier a great character
Long quit Cheers to do "The Money Pit". They told her no, she was under contract but she had already filmed a chunk of it next to Tom Hanks. The movie, despite Hanks, was a dud and when she asked to return to Cheers they said no.
Funny enough I didn’t know who sang the Frasier theme song. I even looked it up on the internet one day. I was in my late thirties too! I didn’t know it was Kelsey!! Now I have no idea how I missed it. Sounds just like him. Pretty bad for a 130 IQ and grad degree and former medical studies professor. My kids still remind me by asking who sings the song every time a show goes off. It makes them laugh even as teens and in early twenties. I’d make fun of me too! Clueless !!
I didnt know that! Thanks!
@@arribaficationwineho32 You are welcome! I am so glad I wasn’t the only one. I seriously spent brain time thinking about this every time I heard it. I swear my thoughts confuse me! I feel sorry for anyone trying to understand me. Thanks for letting me know about you too! It makes me feel better! Lol!
Can you just imagine the look Kelsey Grammar would’ve given us if we had run into him and asked him who sang the closing song? He would’ve called for security. Lol !
And I'm sure it's safe to say they were 2 American kids growing up in the heartland seeing as sam was a baseball star, hell! He had diannes debutante in the back seat of some other guy name jacks car. Sure they were suckin chili dogs outside tastie freeze😊 sadly now we have mick donalds & dairy queen, bring back tasti freeze pleeze
Never could stand Shelly Long!!
I'm sure she will lose sleep over that
I liked the Frasier episode where they met their school bully. The plumbers, in fact its the only one I remember. I will never watch Cheers again becsuse Ive seen them all, back in the day, but the main reason is that I hate the theme song with a passion! Yes Pure Hatred of that song!
Sam and Diane were a great storyline for the show and the 2 actors did a wonderful job playing off each other. I hated when i found out Diane (Long) was leaving but then i think it gave the show a fresh new life and the show may not have lasted 11 seasons had it stayed based on Sam and Diane. The intro of Rebecca gave Sam more funny stories as a babe hound and after the couple story of Sam & Diane ended, it also seemed to allow the other characters to be shown and displayed even more.
I am hoping for another season (or more) of Frasier reboot
The new show is cleverly written. I didn’t think I’d like it but it’s pretty good. The love/hate chemistry betwen “Frasier” and “Lilith” is still there.
They should of called it "Diane"
Seemed to be about her
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What's up with the weird pronunciation of english words like "Kelsey", "season" and "reverberated" ? Really sounds unprofessional...
John Ratzenberger was originally down to play Frasier. Until the producers saw Kelsey Grammar. Wonder if that would have worked out as well in the long run?
Okay this is really nitpicky, but In the show Frazier I found it unrealistic that a Dr of psychiatry that had no famous book that he had written, no previous account of a showbiz career would become a rich radio talk show host. In more than one episode they mentioned that he could become syndicated. So, to work 3 hours a day and to balk about having to do sleepytime tea commercials and not having a practice anymore.... I'm just saying the radio game isn't that lucrative if you don't write books to sell, don't do commercials, and are not syndicated. + not seeing patients.
I beleive he also had a television show.
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Frasier and his agent Bebe did 1 week Co-host of a morning talk show, while they were on hiatus from radio and renegotiating his radio contract. He would have made more money with the TV show.
I also remember when Frazier and Ross went to Spokane because Spokane just picked up his radio show... Spokane is still in WA, not much of a syndication. If it were syndicated to NYC that would be a far bigger audience.
I just remember Frasier with his high brow taste of the arts, buying from auction houses, having dinner parties, plus a luxury apartment with a fantastic view would have been very expensive. I lived in Seattle, it ain't cheap. The buying coffee everyday at Café Nervosa would have been a small fortune right there.
Niles on the other hand was married to a rich woman, had his own practice that included many group therapy sessions, and wrote papers for the medical supplements. His had a more real depiction of wealth. Unless Frasier had stocks and bonds... making money for working 3 hours a day/5 days a week is stretching the imagination.
Never cared for shelly longs acting or character on show i prefered Christie Ali's role Grammers show Frasier had a great cast Loved the show The new Frasier i was doubtful of resurrection of Frasier 2.0 after 2 episodes I'm gleefully surprised😮Its got Jokes good cast and that guy ALAN 😂 GIVE IT A GO &Not disappointed with Lillith's guest appearance 🎉Im warming up to this new Frasier yup im hooked ❤Freddy not so great as niles son only charachter i find annoying and not a good fit 😢Otherwise better than i would have beleived going to go watch episode 4! 😂❤
Shelly was a good actress. Kirstie was good too, but Diane was great on the show and in that role. Her personality was so good in contrast to Sam. Of course Kelsey want on to his own very successful show for years.
That's performance conflict that gets the story on the straight. Remember reading books?
What is a sezon?
Norm !😂
Wasn't Kelsey Grammer accused of having sex with an underage girl? Even though he wasn't charged, there was communication between the two of them of a personal nature. He has had a lot of stuff happen in his life. This is one person that I would think of being real sketchy and pushing the moral boundaries to the the limit.
The producers' explanation for keeping Kelsey, makes sense. I think Kelsey is sincere in his explanation, but his perception is mistaken.
Just as a practical, financial matter, producers would not keep an actor to continue friction between two actors.
I love ❤the reboot. Its a good show compared to the other garbage that is out there.
A 31-minute video with AI-generated voice-over that takes a ten thousand word salad to say nothing.
Superb production/ acting/story lines/and talent 🤙🤙🤙
I loved cheers and frasier. But I can’t be the only one who sees this as a typical Scientology ploy. They liked the character of Frasier(and Kelsey) when he made Scientologists and Scientologist Alley look good. They 💩 on him when he became a huge star portraying a psychiatrist. The Cult of Scientology hates psychiatry
A character like Cliff Clavin would never work today, because his fellow bar flies would instantly shut down his know-it-all banter by googling on their phones. Same goes for “Married With Children.” Al Bundy taking his phone to the bathroom instead of a newspaper, would not have the same comedic effect.
This is a completely AI generated video- the script, narration, and editing.
Mistreatment for being a sitcom celebrity? Bullshit. She was not Alexis Carrington.
Someone please edit this stuff.
I think it was Grammer's talent that kept him on the show, and now wanting to annoy Long.
Ugh. The title is misleading, almost in a way that makes it clickbait . 🤨 The photo and the title suggest Kelsey couldn't stand Allie, and yet the video notes Allie supported Kelsey and that he was very fond of her. Unethical to mislead people in this way.
So very sad how Shelley Long let herself go in later years. To see her current photos at 70+ years old, punch in SHELLY LONG-PHOTOS
The annoying AI generated voice, mispronouncing so many words, makes it too difficult to listen to this video.
40 years ago when I was about 6yo cheers used to be on at 10pm on a Sunday night
We LOVE Frasier 2023!! ❤
watching her now on Modern Family, she really has hit the wall. Hard.
That’s what happens when women get old. The fact that she is still getting work negates the comment.
Id say fraiser is the most successful spin off ever.
I cant think if one better than that.
You are without a doubt, younger than 50. Research from " All in the Family"_ the Jeffersons + Maude.
Big take away in all this - PICKARD was on Cheers ??? 5:42 !!!!!! Wow.
Woody Harrelson had the best career out of all the cheers cast he blew up on the big screen
Diane Chambers was perfection... i would have rather kept her than fraiser....
Me too. Loved that character
Kelsey has an appointment with a military tribunal, along with the entire cast of cheers.
Seek help
I think the actress developed a dislike for the character because the actress actually had some of the character's flaws and craziness.
This is expected when you have a Lead driver that has a vast depth of character to get around.. If Frasier had allowed the first 4 episodes for character development, the new cast then they could have supported him much better than being mere characturs of the past... Sadly this wasn't done
I think the new Frasier is funny. I think the characters need more time to understand themselves in their characters. It’s a natural progression to see frasier explore fatherhood in the next chapter of his life. I do agree the older cast seem to be funnier. I think the recent clips on UA-cam, I laughed heartily. I want to see how they will progress, there still story to be told. I think the upset from disappointed fan,s are invested to see all the old faces. But even the first Fraizer (after cheers) was a reinvention of new cast members apart from cheers). They are doing a new thing. I think Alan is also an archetype of Niles, the other female colleague as Ross. He mentioned playing the sons of frasier n Nile’s, probably need more time to settle into their roles and hone in on their craft. I hear that doesn’t properly happen even in the best of tv shows…until after 3rd or 5th season. I think it’s still charming.