I'm really inspired in your DOUBLE SMITE strategies so I'm trying to figure out another way to do it haha. Wish me luck. Brazil will meet their own version of this!
@@Tilterella It also really inspired the support that queue up in my game and that litterally ran down the game :) He took time to link your vid so I'll leave a like
I'm pretty sure they will do the "funneling" treatment The funny thing is seeing how frail this meta is, you do any macro strategies out of the norm and end up breaking the game
Aatrox could not have played this game worse. All he had to do was stay in lane and collect 5 free plates instead of trying to match the blitz deciding to play support / mid sacrificing for double jungle. On the other hand, maybe this is the right way to play it and it really shows the lack of impact mid lane has on the game in 2023, which has been a very big complaint lately!
@@Tiagocf2 It would definitely struggle more vs a mid laner with good wave clear. They were able to catch a ton of waves because aatrox's wave clear is mediocre
@@andreemery4964 Yeah this would not work against Zed, Ahri, Asol, Oriana, Syndra & Talon. They would take all the plates then perma roam 1 shoting people the rest of the match.
I remember doing double jungle soraka warwick back in season 3 and we had SO MUCH fun doing it. Man you're the most inventive, funny guy making content for this game; which lately was making me feel like there was no alternative to sticking to the meta. Thank you for the inspiration, hope I don't get banned trying to do it too, lol
I hope Unicorns Of Love can pull out a double smite in one of their games in the future. They seemed like a team that didn't mind go "off meta" in games (on-hit Twisted Fate jungle)
I'm gonna start applying this strat onto AD Support Shaco. I think in theory it could really work out well, though I'm skeptical. Starting with boxes of course, securing topside jungle early to place boxes is very scary though. Gonna grind it out, as i'm already having some decent success with ad shaco support, doing frequent early roams. Maybe I can apply some of this macro to get a cheeky kill on the jungler doing their topside buff, and snowball from there. Transition into a skuttle and then maybe a gank mid or top depending on the enemy laners intelligence lol. Love the strats tilt, inspires me to play the game in a fun new way. Always been trying to find ways to play the weirder champs like singed and shaco in more increasingly fun ways. I just don't find the meta and overtuned champs fun in the current state of the game. Keep it up man you're awesome.
This would be epic if you could actually get a full team to do it. Go 3 tanks/bruisers with decent waveclear, and 2 junglers. Each tanky laner just holds the wave without dying, and the 2 junglers are constantly ganking and farming both jungles. Your team is tanky enough to survive ganks, theirs isn't.
I joined the jgl bc toplane is just zero impact at the moment but i have been struggling your way of explaining how to punish enemy movement has been a game changer
what do you think about kayn sup with this tactic? kayn has crazy good clearing, can skirmish quite well early on, likes fighting cause of orbs, really good escape and map scaling, only thing is that he is kinda meh if u are behind but rhaast has utility with the cc and anti tank, do you have a guide about the general things to look out for? like when to leave your adc, when to go back, when to hold someones wave and stuff like that
So, as a new player, watching this raised me some questions. 1- what mid laner would benefit a lot by free farming in this situation? I have my guesses on veigar, but i would like someone with more experience than me to answer. 2- you basically played mid-jungler sion, wouldn't it be better if you instead of taking the support role, took the mid laner role to make your sion escapades?
1- I think that midlaners that can push the wave quickly, because they can profit of tower gold and get ahead 2- it wouldn't work because there's a gold penalty if you buy the jungler item and farm wave minions
Yo grats on reaching challenger with this!! Did you test this strat with any other champs? I’m a nunu main and I tried it when queued support in norms, worked well for one game but there’s definitely pros and cons to doing this strat with nunu. You can secure buffs more reliably with a smite but lvl 1 nunu is way slower to clear wolves/chickens, and if spotted on enemy buffs you can’t reliably 1v1. Might not be as viable but maybe if sion is banned? Lol
Back when camps had shared xp i remember 4 man jungle with some friends. Convince the adc to play bot solo while we invaded each side of the jungle all game and 4 man ganking the lanes, hell of a lot of fun.
The most annoying thing for me in league is when your team has no killer instinct. You might win fights but they are too afraid or unprepared to take an objective of any kind. We win fights midgame vs a late game team and we take nothing, then they wonder why we lost to the enemies late.
Do you think that Sion is the only champ where this can work on? Or could other champs be viable as well? Not thinking about typical supports, but rather stuff that can have great dueling/invasion potential like Graves for example?
Dude, you should try the new zyra with her buffs against jngl camps with this strategy, it would be harder for them to predict that its a double smite strategy in champ select, + zyra has one of the fastest and safest clears in the game atm since she can easily do camps over the walls
I know you only really play double smite with Sion. As I Sion main I can definitely see why this strategy is particularly viable on him. However could you think of other good champion possibilities? I was thinking of something with more stealing power and faster clears like Nunu who can also go tank and run around the map being a nuisance.
My first game of the day was ur bs, Tilt. I knew it was yours. Ghost Smite supp sion. He did well for 5-10m then I realised the secret as Noc was to not be getting hit by Sion while on a buff and just beat him, I was Noc. I win and then R his adc who was being 1v2 in lane. Plus, he's just leveling up camps. It's a tilter but the counter play is a calm ego and just get what camps you can and know you wont be a carry until you get going again. I play to Noc's r strength and quick exchange and gtfo on the adc when she solo and getting also tilted from being 1v2. If they invade you perma, make the adc afk perma. I love your content Tilt but fk it ingame hahahaha
We played double jungle a friend and I a few seasons back, but bot lane kept complaining because 2v1 is hard at low elo because no one knows how to play safe 😅 we played Chogath-Blitzcrank and always ganked together. The CC was real 🤣
Hey man, ive played against this a few times and wanted to ask if you had any insights on counters for this tech? Ive tried a few things like playing fast clear champs that have low commital escapes kayn/lilia and spend the majority of the game punishing bot side? Maybe also starting enemy side so that it forces both jungles to try counter jungling to get cs?
I’m thinking you have to 3 camp into diving botlane Maybe even just lvl 2 dive if you have fat wave clear Then vertical jungle and take the enemy quadrant I think this requires warding enemy side and pushing them off their opposite buff. Maybe even starting their side, diving not into your side It has to be about taking advantage of the lack of lane support
Considering he's playing Aatrox and I also main top lane, it's a matchup I understand well, I use that knowledge to help me stop his reign over the game. Unlucky for Aatrox
The way I choose to believe this game has so much d/c is that Tilterrella & Blitz broke how LoL is played so fundamentally that the server couldn’t handle it. Congratulations; y’all have broken LoL and I’ve here for it 😂.
I think it was unintentionally mid, because blitz wanted the ADC to have a supp so sacced mid for it and was lucky both the jgls were able to pick it up in mid
Very well played, however I don't agre with the call at 11:11. What's the point of taking the tower? You won't be taking the inhib any time soon and if your team stays to take it down the enemy team will delay your recalls and can relieve a lot of map pressure by setting up vision and clearing waves in spots that should be in your control after immediately recalling. Letting go that initiative is not worth it for the insignificant amount of gold you get from it. Imo your teammates made the right call to not follow your call and recall instead. Feel free to discuss, I am eager to learn
The inhibitor being open makes the wave more threatening even if you don't take the inhib. It's usually better to leave it, but in a game where 1 person keeps dcing, that tower being dead is a symbol of hope in case things go poorly.
We can take it for free. I’d also happily die for an open inhibitor because it is a win condition in the future of the game. Same way I’d die to get third drake or fourth. Win conditions are what I’m playing for.
HAHA the DC Karma on not saying others dont deserve the win muwhaha He really tried hard staying in the game though, i do not think it was sett's fault.
I'm really inspired in your DOUBLE SMITE strategies so I'm trying to figure out another way to do it haha. Wish me luck. Brazil will meet their own version of this!
You can do it!
hell yeah! 🤘@@Tilterella
tamo fudido mané
@@Tilterella It also really inspired the support that queue up in my game and that litterally ran down the game :) He took time to link your vid so I'll leave a like
I faced a Ivern supp doing it. It was pretty nasty since ivern can just afk jg
2:45 THE ANKLE BREAKER FROM KAYN
If double smite becomes mainstream, riot is going to prevent / nerf it.
No fun allowed in our game!
Rito
I'm pretty sure they will do the "funneling" treatment
The funny thing is seeing how frail this meta is, you do any macro strategies out of the norm and end up breaking the game
@@Mickeyfinfulit's not fun to fight it, trust me
“You’re testing the meta? NUH UH. Only ADC slaves allowed”
"Fostering" creativity
I like that blitz came up with his own strategy to try to complement this playstyle, even if it is flawed
Bro! Those first 4 minutes were fucking nuts! Legit making me want to pick up league again 😂
Kayn with form in 7 min lol
@@urucubacos also the level 7 sylas at 14 mins
The short was so good He Made a whole Video Out of IT
You guys did ask for it.
I thought I was insane or something because I could've sworn I'd already watched it. Turned out I had as a short.
2:06 the Blitzcrank with the white flag lmao
Aatrox could not have played this game worse. All he had to do was stay in lane and collect 5 free plates instead of trying to match the blitz deciding to play support / mid sacrificing for double jungle. On the other hand, maybe this is the right way to play it and it really shows the lack of impact mid lane has on the game in 2023, which has been a very big complaint lately!
I like this variation of the strategy even more, both junglers keeping Mid alive while Blitz help getting bot ahead
@@Tiagocf2 It would definitely struggle more vs a mid laner with good wave clear. They were able to catch a ton of waves because aatrox's wave clear is mediocre
@@andreemery4964 Yeah this would not work against Zed, Ahri, Asol, Oriana, Syndra & Talon. They would take all the plates then perma roam 1 shoting people the rest of the match.
@@dripapproved1582 Oriana has good waveclear?
@@user-jd5nu5kh3kall her skills deal aoe, so yeah
Not only the game was a demolition but the C&C Generals music in the background is also an absolute Gigachad move 👌
I remember doing double jungle soraka warwick back in season 3 and we had SO MUCH fun doing it. Man you're the most inventive, funny guy making content for this game; which lately was making me feel like there was no alternative to sticking to the meta. Thank you for the inspiration, hope I don't get banned trying to do it too, lol
this strat with no mid laner and 2 junglers farming mid reminds me of twisted treeline so much and now i miss it even more
Can't wait for next seasons triple jungle strat
I hope Unicorns Of Love can pull out a double smite in one of their games in the future. They seemed like a team that didn't mind go "off meta" in games (on-hit Twisted Fate jungle)
Dude when they pulled that crazy shit I, omg, so hype.
I'm gonna start applying this strat onto AD Support Shaco. I think in theory it could really work out well, though I'm skeptical. Starting with boxes of course, securing topside jungle early to place boxes is very scary though. Gonna grind it out, as i'm already having some decent success with ad shaco support, doing frequent early roams. Maybe I can apply some of this macro to get a cheeky kill on the jungler doing their topside buff, and snowball from there. Transition into a skuttle and then maybe a gank mid or top depending on the enemy laners intelligence lol.
Love the strats tilt, inspires me to play the game in a fun new way. Always been trying to find ways to play the weirder champs like singed and shaco in more increasingly fun ways. I just don't find the meta and overtuned champs fun in the current state of the game. Keep it up man you're awesome.
This would be epic if you could actually get a full team to do it.
Go 3 tanks/bruisers with decent waveclear, and 2 junglers. Each tanky laner just holds the wave without dying, and the 2 junglers are constantly ganking and farming both jungles. Your team is tanky enough to survive ganks, theirs isn't.
things like this bring back the fun old league had
we need to get a detailed guide for this, like when do u go blue smite or green smite, pathing, synergies, bans...
2:45 fucking bamboozled LMAOOOOOO this made me laugh out loud
This is the most entertaining LoL content out there. Off meta strategies working in decent elo are everyone's favourite :)
This only works if your team accepts it as a form of strat but when you lock in support with smite then you know you will get spam pinged
I'm surprised sylas didn't give up with that early game
The frequency of your video's lately is fantastic. Thank you!
I joined the jgl bc toplane is just zero impact at the moment but i have been struggling your way of explaining how to punish enemy movement has been a game changer
the command and conquer music is so goated, really good vid
what do you think about kayn sup with this tactic? kayn has crazy good clearing, can skirmish quite well early on, likes fighting cause of orbs, really good escape and map scaling, only thing is that he is kinda meh if u are behind but rhaast has utility with the cc and anti tank, do you have a guide about the general things to look out for? like when to leave your adc, when to go back, when to hold someones wave and stuff like that
well, I just did it for 2 games, won both. Went red 1st, they ffd. 2nd went blue, was bit long but we won rlly hard
I believe this will pump a 2 support counter strategy that hyper bully 1 or 2 lanes to force ganking similar to running down mid
Your background music "c&c generals" brings back my childhood memmories :)
So, as a new player, watching this raised me some questions.
1- what mid laner would benefit a lot by free farming in this situation? I have my guesses on veigar, but i would like someone with more experience than me to answer.
2- you basically played mid-jungler sion, wouldn't it be better if you instead of taking the support role, took the mid laner role to make your sion escapades?
1- I think that midlaners that can push the wave quickly, because they can profit of tower gold and get ahead
2- it wouldn't work because there's a gold penalty if you buy the jungler item and farm wave minions
Yo grats on reaching challenger with this!! Did you test this strat with any other champs? I’m a nunu main and I tried it when queued support in norms, worked well for one game but there’s definitely pros and cons to doing this strat with nunu. You can secure buffs more reliably with a smite but lvl 1 nunu is way slower to clear wolves/chickens, and if spotted on enemy buffs you can’t reliably 1v1. Might not be as viable but maybe if sion is banned? Lol
Back when camps had shared xp i remember 4 man jungle with some friends. Convince the adc to play bot solo while we invaded each side of the jungle all game and 4 man ganking the lanes, hell of a lot of fun.
Just rolled a joint and tilterella just uploaded? Life is good.
Thanks for all the uploads, some of the funnest most interesting league content out there still my man
Is that C&C Generals music what I am hearing? Beautiful!
The most annoying thing for me in league is when your team has no killer instinct. You might win fights but they are too afraid or unprepared to take an objective of any kind. We win fights midgame vs a late game team and we take nothing, then they wonder why we lost to the enemies late.
@Tilterella Do you think that smite strat would also work with other champs and if so , what kind of champs?
love your videos Tilterella ^-^!
Thank you! 😄
Do you think that Sion is the only champ where this can work on? Or could other champs be viable as well? Not thinking about typical supports, but rather stuff that can have great dueling/invasion potential like Graves for example?
Super entertaining game! That beginning was incredible!
Glad you enjoyed it
Good videos. One question can you try to play other offmeta champs in Jungle? I have the Feeling there are others beside sion who can work
What is the second best double jungle champion?🤔 (shaco?) also what is the advantage of Sion jung?
My guess is that Sion allows you to be extra annoying when invading through his passive.
Thanks! I went from Silver 4 to Gold 2 with this strat😮 24 games 100% winrate
Dude, you should try the new zyra with her buffs against jngl camps with this strategy, it would be harder for them to predict that its a double smite strategy in champ select, + zyra has one of the fastest and safest clears in the game atm since she can easily do camps over the walls
I know you only really play double smite with Sion. As I Sion main I can definitely see why this strategy is particularly viable on him. However could you think of other good champion possibilities? I was thinking of something with more stealing power and faster clears like Nunu who can also go tank and run around the map being a nuisance.
River shen it is
I could feel the mental health problems radiating from that Blitz
I will forever remember the time I ended up mid as Blitzcrank and our team won: it was marvellous.
You're a maniac, I love this strat
That Command and Conquer Generals music , nice
No way this dude actually uploaded videos 2days in a row
My first game of the day was ur bs, Tilt. I knew it was yours. Ghost Smite supp sion. He did well for 5-10m then I realised the secret as Noc was to not be getting hit by Sion while on a buff and just beat him, I was Noc. I win and then R his adc who was being 1v2 in lane. Plus, he's just leveling up camps. It's a tilter but the counter play is a calm ego and just get what camps you can and know you wont be a carry until you get going again. I play to Noc's r strength and quick exchange and gtfo on the adc when she solo and getting also tilted from being 1v2. If they invade you perma, make the adc afk perma. I love your content Tilt but fk it ingame hahahaha
Outstanding video, thanks for the amazing content.
Loved to watch it all again, but what happened to the original vid? i assume youtube issues.
the app I was using to record stops and crashes once the game stops
We played double jungle a friend and I a few seasons back, but bot lane kept complaining because 2v1 is hard at low elo because no one knows how to play safe 😅 we played Chogath-Blitzcrank and always ganked together. The CC was real 🤣
The worst thing is that in the loading screen they prob think "oh free lp ez swin he got tilted and got smite"
A lot of vids lately, love it
Blitz knew the assignment
I was thinking, malzahar would be a really good mid/top for this strat, same with TF
So now here I am locking in sion mid going smite ghost, trying to farm everything.
Hey man, ive played against this a few times and wanted to ask if you had any insights on counters for this tech? Ive tried a few things like playing fast clear champs that have low commital escapes kayn/lilia and spend the majority of the game punishing bot side? Maybe also starting enemy side so that it forces both jungles to try counter jungling to get cs?
I’m thinking you have to 3 camp into diving botlane
Maybe even just lvl 2 dive if you have fat wave clear
Then vertical jungle and take the enemy quadrant
I think this requires warding enemy side and pushing them off their opposite buff. Maybe even starting their side, diving not into your side
It has to be about taking advantage of the lack of lane support
Bro has command and conquer Generals music in the Background 😍
Shout out to C&C Generals soundtrack in the background
Isnt bard a good counter to double jungler?
it would be awesome to be something like this at worlds
Question
How do you handle games where either jgl or adc (or both) dont get the strat and get mad at you for taking camps/not being in lane?
You play with a duo that knows what's up, and you explain in champ select so adc or jungle picks good champs for the strat
@@Murasame13
Yeah ok but i mean what do you do about these 7 game losstreak tiltheads that get troll level mad for the smallest things they dont like?
@@Murasame13
Honest question btw not that u think im trying to bs you..
I did not think it's possible to see a high elo game where enemy midlaner can get gapped so hard against a team with no midlaner
Considering he's playing Aatrox and I also main top lane, it's a matchup I understand well, I use that knowledge to help me stop his reign over the game. Unlucky for Aatrox
I have a feeling double smite will become a thing soon cause of how broken jungle is and comeback experience is
You had a lvl 4 red kayn. Can we just take a moment to realize how crazy that is?
ive given up on sion top and ive been playing sion jungle maybe i should do this now 😅
your movement mechanics seem OP
I can tell you right now.. @ 1:53 ooo.. I would've probably tilted so hard had I been sylas
This blitz is actually a fucking genious lmao.
Love the live commentary
The way I choose to believe this game has so much d/c is that Tilterrella & Blitz broke how LoL is played so fundamentally that the server couldn’t handle it.
Congratulations; y’all have broken LoL and I’ve here for it 😂.
Yet another masterpiece! ❤
As awesome as your Sion is, have to say that Kayn was very smooth kiting that aatrox around
So smite sion mid might be better ?
2 junglers and STILL nobody ganks too, this goes to show how low priority top really fucking is unless you can perma farm Kayles
BROO how did DC sion follow into the bush? lol
Well tried it in normals. 3 straight wins. It doesn't feel foolproof, but it's definitely very strong. No one knows how to react to it yet
once you learn different scenarios it will get even easier.
tilt provides
Thank you for the content.
More of these videos with this support smite build
I really don't like how blitz didn't go mid. Seems a bit troll to me
this guy is like thebausffs but with such a big brain, being freaking 1337iQ this strategy is insane
mfw I thought of double jungle and 3 solo lanes back in 2019 and all my friends called me stupid
Watch Riot make smite has global cd within a team because this is not how they intended the game to be played
Any Toilet lurkers here? You know the rules. 🐧🍭
7 minutes in, and I finally realized that you are the midlaner and not the supp ... man you can make this strat good on any lane
I think it was unintentionally mid, because blitz wanted the ADC to have a supp so sacced mid for it and was lucky both the jgls were able to pick it up in mid
keep it up the more videos the better :)
Generals Zero:Hour soundtracks hit hard
This hurts more when you realize Sylas is an extremely weak early game jungler and his clears are brutal if he's stuck at level 1.
Very well played, however I don't agre with the call at 11:11. What's the point of taking the tower? You won't be taking the inhib any time soon and if your team stays to take it down the enemy team will delay your recalls and can relieve a lot of map pressure by setting up vision and clearing waves in spots that should be in your control after immediately recalling. Letting go that initiative is not worth it for the insignificant amount of gold you get from it. Imo your teammates made the right call to not follow your call and recall instead. Feel free to discuss, I am eager to learn
The inhibitor being open makes the wave more threatening even if you don't take the inhib. It's usually better to leave it, but in a game where 1 person keeps dcing, that tower being dead is a symbol of hope in case things go poorly.
We can take it for free. I’d also happily die for an open inhibitor because it is a win condition in the future of the game. Same way I’d die to get third drake or fourth. Win conditions are what I’m playing for.
6:22 - why shouldn't sett have touched rift?
It was the scuttle, and for primal stacks
because it denies the jungle item stacks, so they get to have the big smite later
Can you try this with Teemo
i play with my friend and we decide to do 5 smite,yes the jungle enemy farm in top lane if u ask
Man thats so terrible players disconnecting when going versus the Fiora, what a coincidence
HAHA the DC Karma on not saying others dont deserve the win muwhaha
He really tried hard staying in the game though, i do not think it was sett's fault.
woah the music :o
Gonna try this on shaco supp, got a good feeling 🤡
Smite sion mid might become a thing.