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Hey tilterella I see you're trying out new strategies and I want you to know that it is bannable by the system so I would recommend to either get alt accounts to try them out (can buy them or just dig some forums for free ones) or not bother with them as league accounts are precious due to the amount of effort they take to farm up. I was trying some pretty innovative offmeta strategies and ended up regretting it after having my main account for years banned for it.
Can you try the following @Tilterella 1. Can you try Bauffs' items - Prowler/Yoummus 2. Do you think this also work with Ivern - Smite/TP as support too? 3. Maybe trying the Spellbook rune to change summoner spells? 4. How about Blitz to annoy that could annoy the jungler more?
just jungle as sion normally; if you focus on krugs and chickens and devote remaining time to ganking/counterganking, catch-up exp will ensure you don't fall too behind while you boom enemy mid laner mental. edit: also, given the aoe provided by jungle pets, this makes krugs and chickens even more convenient for sion.
I think this could be really effective if your team knows how to work with it. In general I would not be surprised to see a lot of ADCs just go afk because they can't 1vs2 and the jungler probably isn't always thrilled to share camps either.
The first part I agree with you, the second - the whole point is to *not* take your jungler's camps, but your enemy's. And even then, they share, as seen in the video.
Back when double jungling became meta years ago, I remember just taking any champ with good wave clear and sustain down bot solo. Enemy bot goes wild trying to kill you and get super punished when two jugglers came flying. I was a lil behind in Cs most of the time but every lane came out on top most of the time.
@@hrodvithit I agree, just pick something with good waveclear, hell even something like a bot viegar would be nice since its hard to dive a viagar and he just wants to farm out
As an adc main perma roaming supports tilt me pretty bad when I feel like I'd have tons of kill pressure if I had my support, but if I'm playing a more late game champ I'm ok with it
Love the idea of the jungler and counter-jungler teamcomp, there are plenty of crazy champs now that can go 1v2 in the botlane and still get farm and exp without feeding, especially vs a yuumi adc if you are long range
I had a roaming support talon with smite that would open up with E to a buff steal and rush to contest the next one, invade and just be a nuance to the enemy jungler. Inspired by trmplays' Roman talon. I got a pretty sick steal with him and I will send you the link if interested provided UA-cam doesn't delete it.
Dr. Mundo 100% has to be the most reliable for this. No resources, huge regen, bonkers long ranged cs tools and waveclear tools, builds chonky, sets up all-ins for ganks quite well. He's GOATed in living through tumultuous, high pressure lanes For even further survivability, you can use Fleet footwork with secondary second wind and revitalize. These combined with tp and dorans shield give you nigh infinite survivability
that was me on the Belveth 🤣beat you next game though so THE SCOREBOARD SAYS 1-1!!!!!! GG though for real how anyone can say it's not a real strategy is in denial
Hi tilt! You could get a high elo jungle to watch your gameplay and give some tips, cause a lot of things while counterjungling (for instance not being spotted while going to enemy golems) I as a low elo jungle is even thinking about. Also, the new pet system gives you treats as sort of a passive thing. When you have a treat stacked up and take a camp, you get 1 stack extra on the jungle item. So you really just need to take camps as long as you have treats up and you will get the higher smite quite fast.
Historically speaking when Support is supporting anyone but the ADC is when the role is stronger. This is why the funnel strategies where so strong, ADC are only busted in the late game but a Jungler can take a small lead and snowball like crazy.
@@ovichggat But they did involve a support champion sacrificing all their resources to another character, normally the midlane to the Jungler. A support on the Jungler was worth more than a midlaner, meanwhile engage and poke supports tend to be more valuable in bot than pure supporters.
I have theorized about this in the past, but never got the courage to implement and test it. Good to know im not the only one whos has spiraled to complete madness because of League XD
The biggest buff for this strategy is the jungle item's requirement to clear camps for a smite upgrade. If you can harass enough the jungler will just have a worse smite on top of a lack of levels and gold.
Playing real smart Tilterella, good work. I've been doing some thinking myself and for two junglers I could really see yuumi working in this spot. Take smite so that you jungler can clear camps way faster early and win the 1v1 every time in an early invade since they have a yuumi on them. For second spell I know it sounds crazy but I think flash could work to really secure those kills in the jungle versus mobile matches like kha'zix, yuumi can flash off of the jungler to secure the last hit on champions or on close buffs. Instead of support though, probably run this ADC because the jungler is so fed you won't need a second carry. This way support can skip buying their support item and just worry about slow tank scaling in the bot lane. I think you should try it out! See how it works!
Just posting some of my offmeta meme strategies, had a duo where I would play a roaming support amumu with support item queued as Jungle and a mid Vi / Nocturne with smite where we camp people and perma roam and contest all objectives
The thing with the new jungle is that now the concept of stealing camps is much worse for the jungler as junglers only get 75% of exp from minions at all times so they can't even just gank a ton and soak some lane exp while their camps respawn in the meantime as they won't catch up that way much at all.
I love this strategy, but how do you manage the vision control without the supp item? Especially in low elo where people tend less to buy pinky or ward in general
I mean this was the perf game for this strat. Pushing top and mid against two control mages. And an enemy botlane with no engange against a caitlyn who is kinda really safe to farm with range and e.
Hey Tilt, what is the thought process behind the build? I have found far more succes with umbral glaive lethality sion, with either dark harvest or phase rush, because it allows you to assassinate the enemy jgl. Love the vids! You're my new favorite channel :)
Seeing this strategy really makes me wanna see someone just do like swapping support and jg mid game. Like they both have smite and play it kind of like you do at the start, but then they take turns being the main jungler til both are upgraded and get that 2400 dmg smite pretty early on.
I don't agree with the idea that kills and assists should lower your jungle item stacks, but jungle camps should definitely give more stacks the longer the game goes on, so that if you need to help your team you don't get punished for that too.
had this done to me my first game trying to the JG this season, of course i got flamed and blamed for the loss of the whole game because they had every objective on lock.
Problem with it increasing on kills would be Junglers like Yi and Hecarim would essentially always be better than an opposing Karthus/Lillia. Getting a better smite for fast kills would really throw the game off balance when it comes to objectives and such. (Sorry this is an essay LMAO)
If u ping a ward u get 5 gold (only if u ar the first one to ping it or u can hit it is the same thing to find out if u r the first to ping/hit the ward u have a yellow ping icon above the ward )
what I find incredible is how you invade, almost kill someone, tank 3 people, your team come to a 2v2 and both die. Why your team is dying if you even tanked?
Since when is double jungle cheese? I’m Duo challenger JG Morde / Warwick with my RL friend who plays Hecarim / Lillia. We’ve been doing it since season 10!
I had to play against this right after watching this video. But man did the enemy team get stomped so hard you could see the ff15 from a mile away. 1st off, we had a kayn that wanted red form. He got that shit fast af and sion was free gold for our team bc the mid vlad would rotate. I was the adc that had the pleasure of 2v1ing the enemy adc. So I just perma froze the wave so the enemy sivir couldn't get gold, and sometimes couldn't even get exp. So ended up happening was our team had fast form kayn, fed af vlad, and an adc that got 2x the gold of their opponent. Their only winning lane was top, but I just went top after getting bot turret for free to collect the bounty, then straight to drag to collect more gold stacks off the enemy team. This strategy is just a middle finger to your adc because if you have a working brain you can turn the game into 4v6, and then a 3v7. Since you have an adc with no gold playing a class that needs 3 items to be useful.
So not only do you make the game unplayable for the enemy jungle but you also make your adc solo lane 1v2 for the early game with no peel or engages late game …
he tells the adc before the game starts whats going on and tells them to get the most safe adc they can like a sivir or cait. The cait gets xp and some farm and the jungle loses out on thier camp/xp completely
question how do you know he spoted you? in 5:32 And also If they spoted you, they should of backed, but why would they stay still and pushing the bot turrets?
Nice u can't even see the end cuz theres 2 "next videos" taking up the whole screen. Maybe put them up when it's 1 second left or make the video like 10 seconds longer so we can see the gold distribution. Also does Belveth have a sister called Belva/Belvath? 😂😂
New Patch New Meta for Sion players. this is one of it, also normal heartsteel scaling bruser, 10k hp heartsteel inting, new cheese... Thats amazing, its the happiest moment of the last 4 year of league
@@Tilterella it would be interesting how this would work in korea or easter asia areas, since the game is overall a lot faster, and people love to fight way more, legit think this sion sup would work for a while until people learned to play around it
@@Paangu yeah cause tryndamere doesn't need an empowered passive state to two shot you if you contest him. The lack of cc is definitely not great, but trust me, you don't need it.
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Lemme try my luck as a bronze I guess.
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Hey tilterella I see you're trying out new strategies and I want you to know that it is bannable by the system so I would recommend to either get alt accounts to try them out (can buy them or just dig some forums for free ones) or not bother with them as league accounts are precious due to the amount of effort they take to farm up. I was trying some pretty innovative offmeta strategies and ended up regretting it after having my main account for years banned for it.
Can you try the following @Tilterella
1. Can you try Bauffs' items - Prowler/Yoummus
2. Do you think this also work with Ivern - Smite/TP as support too?
3. Maybe trying the Spellbook rune to change summoner spells?
4. How about Blitz to annoy that could annoy the jungler more?
😂😅
I started doing this strategy in my silver games, now im doing this strategy in my bronze games , thank you tilterela :)
Yea I also started doing this in my silver games and now I am unable to log in
@@taha_exe7532 Wow, his joke but worse
@@chameleonedm wao complaining about a joke
Y i also started doing this in my silver games, and now im diamond
just jungle as sion normally; if you focus on krugs and chickens and devote remaining time to ganking/counterganking, catch-up exp will ensure you don't fall too behind while you boom enemy mid laner mental.
edit:
also, given the aoe provided by jungle pets, this makes krugs and chickens even more convenient for sion.
I think this could be really effective if your team knows how to work with it. In general I would not be surprised to see a lot of ADCs just go afk because they can't 1vs2 and the jungler probably isn't always thrilled to share camps either.
The first part I agree with you, the second - the whole point is to *not* take your jungler's camps, but your enemy's. And even then, they share, as seen in the video.
Back when double jungling became meta years ago, I remember just taking any champ with good wave clear and sustain down bot solo. Enemy bot goes wild trying to kill you and get super punished when two jugglers came flying. I was a lil behind in Cs most of the time but every lane came out on top most of the time.
@@hrodvithit I agree, just pick something with good waveclear, hell even something like a bot viegar would be nice since its hard to dive a viagar and he just wants to farm out
The part of the strategy is not to tale your junglers camps
As an adc main perma roaming supports tilt me pretty bad when I feel like I'd have tons of kill pressure if I had my support, but if I'm playing a more late game champ I'm ok with it
Future Tilt is louder than current gameplay Tilt.
Perfect!
Love the idea of the jungler and counter-jungler teamcomp, there are plenty of crazy champs now that can go 1v2 in the botlane and still get farm and exp without feeding, especially vs a yuumi adc if you are long range
I had a roaming support talon with smite that would open up with E to a buff steal and rush to contest the next one, invade and just be a nuance to the enemy jungler. Inspired by trmplays' Roman talon. I got a pretty sick steal with him and I will send you the link if interested provided UA-cam doesn't delete it.
Dr. Mundo 100% has to be the most reliable for this. No resources, huge regen, bonkers long ranged cs tools and waveclear tools, builds chonky, sets up all-ins for ganks quite well.
He's GOATed in living through tumultuous, high pressure lanes
For even further survivability, you can use Fleet footwork with secondary second wind and revitalize. These combined with tp and dorans shield give you nigh infinite survivability
that was me on the Belveth 🤣beat you next game though so THE SCOREBOARD SAYS 1-1!!!!!!
GG though for real how anyone can say it's not a real strategy is in denial
Hahahhaha
Thought so, you should make a league yt channel
funny that tilterella has osrs music sounds on the video haha
Hi tilt!
You could get a high elo jungle to watch your gameplay and give some tips, cause a lot of things while counterjungling (for instance not being spotted while going to enemy golems) I as a low elo jungle is even thinking about.
Also, the new pet system gives you treats as sort of a passive thing. When you have a treat stacked up and take a camp, you get 1 stack extra on the jungle item. So you really just need to take camps as long as you have treats up and you will get the higher smite quite fast.
Didnt know it gave a bonus stack ty
So he is playing support but he is actually a support for the jungler xd
Historically speaking when Support is supporting anyone but the ADC is when the role is stronger.
This is why the funnel strategies where so strong, ADC are only busted in the late game but a Jungler can take a small lead and snowball like crazy.
he "suport" his team in all aspect...not only standing on bot lane and watching his adc do everything
@@imatiu funnel strategies didn’t involve the botlane
@@ovichggat But they did involve a support champion sacrificing all their resources to another character, normally the midlane to the Jungler.
A support on the Jungler was worth more than a midlaner, meanwhile engage and poke supports tend to be more valuable in bot than pure supporters.
bro that bel veth is punching air rn lmao
Man the generals music in background makes it sound so serious
I have theorized about this in the past, but never got the courage to implement and test it. Good to know im not the only one whos has spiraled to complete madness because of League XD
The biggest buff for this strategy is the jungle item's requirement to clear camps for a smite upgrade. If you can harass enough the jungler will just have a worse smite on top of a lack of levels and gold.
Almost a double jungle strat. I like it a lot. Hope to see more of this
"Bel-Vath" C'mon Tilt
Playing real smart Tilterella, good work. I've been doing some thinking myself and for two junglers I could really see yuumi working in this spot. Take smite so that you jungler can clear camps way faster early and win the 1v1 every time in an early invade since they have a yuumi on them. For second spell I know it sounds crazy but I think flash could work to really secure those kills in the jungle versus mobile matches like kha'zix, yuumi can flash off of the jungler to secure the last hit on champions or on close buffs. Instead of support though, probably run this ADC because the jungler is so fed you won't need a second carry. This way support can skip buying their support item and just worry about slow tank scaling in the bot lane. I think you should try it out! See how it works!
This strat makes me want to play league again after 3-4ish season break
That's good!
Dont, you will only suffer.
@@Tilterella WHAT DO YOU MEAN THAT'S GOOD? HE'LL BE A LEGAL DRUG USER AGAIN
@@Ophelios Nah its good because good content 👍
Riot: Permaban speedrun
Unfortunately true. They are only slightly behind Blizzard's Overwatch in terms of meta enforcement
Finally, been waiting for your preseason gaming!
I love this off meta style you have going on, have you tried smite yuumi adc?
Nice one haha
Just posting some of my offmeta meme strategies, had a duo where I would play a roaming support amumu with support item queued as Jungle and a mid Vi / Nocturne with smite where we camp people and perma roam and contest all objectives
Love these longer video
That feel when your support going bot counts as a gank
Next patch: only one smite can be brought into the game by your team 😅
The thing with the new jungle is that now the concept of stealing camps is much worse for the jungler as junglers only get 75% of exp from minions at all times so they can't even just gank a ton and soak some lane exp while their camps respawn in the meantime as they won't catch up that way much at all.
Only until 14 minutes
You're amazing man! Watching all videos with so joy!
I love this strategy, but how do you manage the vision control without the supp item? Especially in low elo where people tend less to buy pinky or ward in general
I just love that C&C Generals BG music is playing in the bg LoL
bro for some reason his laughter and the :( on belveth just killed me at 1:14
Deep nostalgia is hitting me cuz of that USA C&C Generals soundtrack you are using
That Command & Conquer soundtrack thou xD
Simply love how you use C&C Generals music in your vids :D
I had a sion who switched lanes with bot lane, so adc and support just went top lane and zoned a yorick from so much cs. It was like a boa constrictor
Back in the day like 25% of games were switched like that, it was popular for some reason xd
4:17 is that Command & Conquer Generals USA Theme? 😍
I mean this was the perf game for this strat. Pushing top and mid against two control mages. And an enemy botlane with no engange against a caitlyn who is kinda really safe to farm with range and e.
Hey Tilt, what is the thought process behind the build? I have found far more succes with umbral glaive lethality sion, with either dark harvest or phase rush, because it allows you to assassinate the enemy jgl.
Love the vids! You're my new favorite channel :)
I might be wrong but it's probably gold/exp distribution
@@SVOtto don't think so, since umbral glaive is significantly more cheap than iceborn gauntlet
@@darkienl5886 well I'm definitely wrong then D:
I think it's simply because tanky sion is way more useful for the team and not as dependent on gold as game goes on. He's playing support after all.
so its this guy’s fault i get 10 yo who saw this and trying it in ranked
Seeing this strategy really makes me wanna see someone just do like swapping support and jg mid game. Like they both have smite and play it kind of like you do at the start, but then they take turns being the main jungler til both are upgraded and get that 2400 dmg smite pretty early on.
Got to diamond as a nunu smite support, but too dangerous some of my subscriber got banned.
Thank you for this strategy i passed my exams cause i got 14 days of free time after one game
Deserved for playing bel'veth
5am catching up on tilt vids 🥰
your insane tilt...and i love it :D mad scientist at work again
Bro why did i recognize the Command & Conquer Generals USA theme
"I dont understand why the adc is trying to farm gold"
Bro, you dropped this double kill by not pressing R @8:48, you go on to admit it... kudos.
I don't agree with the idea that kills and assists should lower your jungle item stacks, but jungle camps should definitely give more stacks the longer the game goes on, so that if you need to help your team you don't get punished for that too.
had this done to me my first game trying to the JG this season, of course i got flamed and blamed for the loss of the whole game because they had every objective on lock.
Problem with it increasing on kills would be Junglers like Yi and Hecarim would essentially always be better than an opposing Karthus/Lillia. Getting a better smite for fast kills would really throw the game off balance when it comes to objectives and such. (Sorry this is an essay LMAO)
The soundtrack brought back some memories, reminded me why I thought League could be a good game.
If u ping a ward u get 5 gold (only if u ar the first one to ping it or u can hit it is the same thing to find out if u r the first to ping/hit the ward u have a yellow ping icon above the ward )
"unfortunate timing" is code for "I sucked and got outplayed but I don't want to admit it lmao
I would genuinely cry if I was that Bel'Veth
Happy to hear Zero Hour music used in the vid. :)
Command and Conquer music. Good.
I like your gameplay ideas.
what I find incredible is how you invade, almost kill someone, tank 3 people, your team come to a 2v2 and both die. Why your team is dying if you even tanked?
i love the c&c Generals Soundtrack
The Zero Hour music giving me nostalgia
your such a genius, that knowledge of the game is amazin, that make awsome video, thx again
ur playing c&c generals zero hour soundtrack i love it
Im just surprised your ADC didnt go AFK upon you smiting that red buff
Was that Unreal Tournament music playing during the video?
Since when is double jungle cheese? I’m Duo challenger JG Morde / Warwick with my RL friend who plays Hecarim / Lillia. We’ve been doing it since season 10!
This Veigar was a complite troll who lost their game
I try this double jg tilt but with Vi and it way better then Sion in my opinion
I had to play against this right after watching this video. But man did the enemy team get stomped so hard you could see the ff15 from a mile away. 1st off, we had a kayn that wanted red form. He got that shit fast af and sion was free gold for our team bc the mid vlad would rotate. I was the adc that had the pleasure of 2v1ing the enemy adc. So I just perma froze the wave so the enemy sivir couldn't get gold, and sometimes couldn't even get exp. So ended up happening was our team had fast form kayn, fed af vlad, and an adc that got 2x the gold of their opponent. Their only winning lane was top, but I just went top after getting bot turret for free to collect the bounty, then straight to drag to collect more gold stacks off the enemy team. This strategy is just a middle finger to your adc because if you have a working brain you can turn the game into 4v6, and then a 3v7. Since you have an adc with no gold playing a class that needs 3 items to be useful.
well apparently people in diamond and master dont have a working brain if it was working against them last season.
Even 2v1, Sivir shouldn't be losing lane that hard..
If I was good enough as adc I'd be super interested in having a junglee try this
I’m really sad you charged that Q on gromp lol. You actually knew his timing and his smite was up too!
So not only do you make the game unplayable for the enemy jungle but you also make your adc solo lane 1v2 for the early game with no peel or engages late game …
he tells the adc before the game starts whats going on and tells them to get the most safe adc they can like a sivir or cait. The cait gets xp and some farm and the jungle loses out on thier camp/xp completely
can we watch the game from Wu's perspective.. dude was level 3 with a free jungle when the enemy jungler was level 4
@19:09 Tilteralla at the forefront of the meta.
I will pay an extra dollar for that.
had this happen to me but the sion was garbage and wasnt able to hinder my jungling 😭😭
Only Queue If Your Going To Try Ruining Someone's Time Right?
question how do you know he spoted you? in 5:32
And also If they spoted you, they should of backed, but why would they stay still and pushing the bot turrets?
@12:19 "I could definitely could 1v1 the ryze"
I ain’t afraid of no ghosts
As a jungle main, that looks depressing. I bet belveth has her face on her hands rn.
Oh yeah, Command and conquer general zero hour OST (USA theme) in the background
Nice u can't even see the end cuz theres 2 "next videos" taking up the whole screen. Maybe put them up when it's 1 second left or make the video like 10 seconds longer so we can see the gold distribution.
Also does Belveth have a sister called Belva/Belvath? 😂😂
fixed.
@@Tilterella You commented this as I finished and I was like "It's not fixed"
Ping the ward and you get 5 gold + it marks it showing its duration.
c&c generals OST is just 👌
Dat command and conquer music though
i faced w this strategy on diamond and i beat it you just need to understand what you need to sacrifice, keep calm and GET OUT OF MY JUNGLE
is this playstyle only achivable with sion or..?
The zero hour music
New Patch New Meta for Sion players.
this is one of it, also normal heartsteel scaling bruser, 10k hp heartsteel inting, new cheese...
Thats amazing, its the happiest moment of the last 4 year of league
Heartsteel is by far the worst tank mythic you can buy on Sion
Are you using background sound from generals zero hour?
0:41 only OG league of legends players get this
Background music is from c&c generals cool
More videos like this please!
Music from commander and conquer zero hour ❤
I dont think this strategy will work in higher diamond or master+ tier. It seems way too nerfed now
Should be fine, but we will see.
@@Tilterella it would be interesting how this would work in korea or easter asia areas, since the game is overall a lot faster, and people love to fight way more, legit think this sion sup would work for a while until people learned to play around it
Have you tried doing this on tryndamere? I've stomped quite a few games like this with trynd (even without a jungle item since he's so broken)
Tryndamere doesn't have the CC that sion has, nor the empowered passive state.
@@Paangu yeah cause tryndamere doesn't need an empowered passive state to two shot you if you contest him. The lack of cc is definitely not great, but trust me, you don't need it.
At this point this is just double jungle, not support anymore.
Y'all ain't on his level, beetches, Tilterella
Y'all never beat them like an acapella
is it command & conquer soundtrack? its hard to hear lol
my bro just destroyed the game system
It's been 8 years and tilt still calls them wraith. It's hard getting used to changes sometimes
I am actively trying to call them raptors. That's my new years goal.
Wraithtors
@@Tilterella I usually call them "chickens" or "little shits" if I'm angry ;p
Subscribed because of c&c generals music 😍😍😍🤝
This game was a nightmare for your adc
Hi Tilt 😄 Can you try smite Nunu sp straegy ?
Was the belveth the pure Seb?