Living In Crete The Challenges Of Being Black In Crete Greece
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- Опубліковано 11 вер 2024
- Today I want to talk about living in Crete and the challenges of being black in Crete Greece. as a black woman there are challenges that I face, some serious, and some not too serious. Is there racism in Crete? what should you consider as a black woman thinking of moving to Crete Permanently? these are just some of the questions we are going to be answering today.
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My beautiful lady , I am from Crete origin born in london.
I absolutely love the fact you are in Crete I love you and respect you like a queen x
As a blk man who.lived in Greece for 4 yrs I love Greece 🇬🇷 speak the language learn the culture
Any unusual circumstances u can get by
Rose, there are always stupid people in airports. I remember years ago while in Athens with my Greek American parents and the people in the airport gave us a lot of grief. My parents spoke fluent greek. You have a beautiful spirit and don't let anything change that. 🌻
Thank you so much, it gives me some kind of comfort in a strange way to know that I am not alone in this. But I think they need to treat people better. I am planning to travel soon and I am kind of not looking forward to being at the airport, wish I had my own private jet lol 😂😂😂😂😂 But I still have to go through the airport right🤔🤔🤔
@@island.odyssey I love to travel and have been all over the world...even Nairobi, but flying and airports are the worst. I want to move to Greece and am trying to decide on an island or somewhere south of Athens. I hope to see you if I make it to Crete. 🤗
@@pipilongue South of Athens sounds good, but if you decide on a Greek island, I think Crete is the best because its size gives you a variety of living, for example, if you decide you want city life, you can move to Heraklion, If you prefer mountain life, you can have that too. Beach living, whatever you desire, Crete has it.
@@island.odyssey thanks for the information. I want to be close enough to town but in walking distance to the beach. A quieter calming environment. I will definitely be visiting Crete now. Have a wonderful evening.
Hi I am an Black American, who have been interested in my roots from my African heritage. I took interest to Greece and the Island of Crete, while studying Art History in College. I remember reading about this Island in Scriptures. I really enjoyed listening to your experiences. 😊 Thank You
Thank you so much for your comment, yes I think I also remember reading about Crete in the scriptures but I don't remember where, I think it was the Book Of Acts, I could be wrong though. I will tell you which Greek island I really want to visit, Patmos, that's one island I am planning to visit and I will record a video there.
@@island.odyssey, that would be Acts 27:12, beautiful lady.
And also in Titus 1:5.
God bless you, richly.
I am a Black american and travel a lot and frequently receive 'special treatment' at customs/immigration controls the worst in Haiti....locked up for one day no reason given...visited Crete about 10 years ago..loved it and no problem..incidetally my daughters will be visiting Crete in two weeks...yes hair is an issue
I like how you phrased it "special treatment" 😂😂 I hope your daughter will have a great time here in Crete, is she coming to Chania?
Thank you for putting up such an authentic video on a topic most prefer to stay away from as issues of racism is very real.
I was born and raised as a 4th generation Chinese living in Malaysia. Spent my last 35 years in the US. And thinking of where to spend my retirement years.
I found your video so engaging and real. You have a beautiful spirit and I wish you and your husband many many blessings and peace!!
Thank you.
Wow! what a lovely comment, thank you so much and I wish you the very best too.
Me visiting to Create as a black man from America it was nice I had moments where I felt people starring, majority of the time people were very nice and outgoing but they never offended me until my last day being in crete me and my fiancé was on the beach in agapi the security walked literally passed 100+ white / Greek people to go straight to me and her and didn’t believe we live on the resort!! Sad but true he ask for the room number after I showed him the keys to the room and it was embarrassing and harassment in my eyes but I didn’t make it a big deal just my experience.
Wow, this is just sad, to assume because you are black you can't be a guest at the hotel🤦🏽♀️
@@island.odyssey right ! And being from America it’s not like we don’t deal with it already as it is but we came here for our honeymoon! So that’s what bothered me the most but other then that it was a fantastic trip I just think it’s a older culture thing that he was dealing with
Interesting speech. Rose keep speaking with good smiling people like you are; do not watch to the arrogant ones.
PS: maybe they are watching to you because you are a beautiful woman ?! ;)
Ciao from Italy
Thank you so much, Andrea, happy new year.
Thanks for sharing your experience. I am an African-American that is currently living in Japan. I visited Greece on a study abroad trip years ago. My worst experience was at the airport. It was supposedly due to a "random check". I will never forget that moment.
Rose. Thanks for posting this fabulous video telling some of your life stories in such an engaging way with beautiful humor and great personality. I agree with you 100% that security people or law and order when doing what they do and need to ask for something there is no reason they could not do so in a friendly polite respectful manner with "please, thanks , and a smile"...after all we the people/or traveler's at the airport are their customers and deserve to be treated with respect...and in doing so both parties...us and them...can go on or way after the interaction feeling good about ourselves. I would add, that even if the constant checks by security are somehow justified by a strong pattern of persons with dark skin passing thru the airport illegally, it is all the more reason they should treat you with respect and even apologize for the inconvenience and stress they are causing you until such time as they determine you are breaking the law, as till then you are an innocent law abiding traveller just like everyone else waiting to board the plane...and even then if they discover a persons was doing something illegal they should behave politely...since that is the way all persons are entitled to be treated and expect to be treated themselves. There is no need for meanness and hostility which only diminishes. The beauty of this video is that hopefully some people will watch it and maybe see where they need to improve their interactions with others, or maybe give some direction or guidance to their staff to do, and in doing so hopefully incrementally improve "people" relations overall. As they say, once it's on the Internet it's there forever, which means a lot of people will hear your very moving words and hopefully learn from them. Looking forward to watching more or your videos !!. All the best from Ireland and America.
WOW! What a great comment, thank you so much. You are so right in saying that we ( travelers) are their customers and as such should be treated equally and with respect, especially when we are polite and following the rules. Me being black doesn't necessarily mean I entered the country illegally.
Dear Rose, I am so happy I stumbled across your channel. You have an absolute lovely demeanour and a contagious smile. You are as beautiful on the inside as you are on the outside. Your video was very well articulated. I am sorry about your experiences at airports, it is extremely unfair. Please do not let anyone break your sprit. If someone like yourself came up to me in the street to say "Hi" I would be honored. I hope I can connect with you and maybe one day be able to treat you to a coffee. Sincerely, Bella
Hey Bella, thank you so much for your kind words, I sure hope we can connect after the lockdown.
@@island.odyssey pls am planning to move to Greece pls like how much are they paying for job and how much is apartment and cost of living pls
39:04 Due to the huge amount of illegal immigration Greece have experienced the last years (as a boarder country of EU), people originated from M.E/Africa/W.Asia are viewed sceptically on airports!
Keep up your videos!
Hi , i am from Crete . We don't care if you are black or white , but we care that you are not a Greek . Seriously now , Cretan people don't trust foreigners . But if you stay and if you show respect to their way of life , they will accept you as their own . About hair , Cretan women don't like people to touch their hair . Only if it is absolutely necessary . Because of the sun and the weather we have showers all the time so to make our hair is waisted money . A hair dresser have no idea about Greek hair too , not just African . Have fun , have respect and you will get a lot of Cretan friends . 👍👍👍
Hi, I asked Rose this but I’d love to know your thoughts. I’m a Japanese Canadian and I love so much I’ve heard about Crete. The best way I could get there is to hopefully do a phd about the Minoans someday. I actually have very thick, curly, wavy black hair, I’ve wondered if I’d fit in there, I’m always an ethnic minority lol I really hate smoking tho and also love rain. I know Crete isn’t known for rain but I hope you get decent amounts in the fall, winter, spring. Would I be hated for hating smoking and not wanting to be around it? I appreciate your opinions on this, thanks.
I don't believe that...everyone sees color
WOW!:glad came across this 😊 Thanks Rose 🌹 🙏. Very important information.
@@SONSTHREESIXTY You are welcome 🙏🏽
Greek airports can be a nightmare. But I think they have become better at dealing with black people/ Africans. My first experience at a greek airport was horrible. I was traveling from Africa and got stopped, checked and gifts I had were destroyed in their search for drugs I suppose. I had terrible experience while traveling from Copenhagen to Hanover airport. Everybody on our flight breezed through the airport(EU flight, so usually no one is stopped), except yours truly- I was stopped by armed police and asked to show my passport. They were very intimidating and aggressive. Mind you, I was traveling with my Greek MIL who was not stopped. I guess as black people, we learn to expect this treatment. It's called traveling while black
Wow, traveling while black, how sad 😢😢😢 anyway, life goes on, I have learned to just do what they say, without causing drama, but it does make me feel sad, that I am just going through that, only because of my skin color.
Thank you for telling your story. Thinking about coming the Greece. If you run into me yes hi I’m always welcoming and love seeing people.
Thank you so much, for watching and commenting, yes if I meet you here, I will say hi for sure.
So...first of all I would like to say that you are a very sweet person. I come form crete but I live in Athens for all my life. From my experience I know that cretans are very stiff like people but good in heart. They have changed through the years, got very suspicious with all foreigners, just have to know you first. Being Cretan isn't the same as being Greek in matters of behaviour. I've experienced discrimination just because I live in Athens! Even though my father lives in Crete my mother is Cretan too. Heraklion is like Athens. Big city, multicultural. If you want to find someone for your hair try hair salon in Platanias they braid hair and have experience. Customs officers are like that in most countries around the world. My sister had a similar experience and she is Greek obviously. Hope everything turns out to be wonderful for you. Every new life experience needs patience and good will.
Οι συμπεριφορές στην Κρήτη δεν διαφέρουν από την υπόλοιπη Ελλάδα με εξαίρεση τους βοσκούς. Μην λες αβάσιμες θεωρίες !
Hey I love your videos! Hope you see this. I’m interested in doing graduate studies event in Greece and doing so in Crete especially. I’m a Japanese Canadian so I suspect my race would be rarer than yours, I’m hoping tho my “Olive complexion “ and thick curly black hair might help me fit in. So I like hearing how non Greeks fit in in Greece. I REALLY hate smoking tho and I keep hearing Greeks love smoking despite the country officially banning it in most places. Is the smoking, second hand smoking really bad or can one get away from it? I’m very introverted and don’t like crowds so don’t go out much. Love to hear your thoughts, and btw you are so incredibly Beautiful! You really are Goddess-like, Cretan mens jaws must be dropping all the time 😻😻😻
Here on Crete, I think people are accepting of people from different races and nationalities. In my opinion, Greek people are friendly and quite welcoming. If you just try to fit in and speak to people, you'll be just fine. Of course, you will have that feeling of being a foreigner, but with time, all will start feeling ok 👍🏼
Καλημέρα Rose, it was very good to watch your video. I am half Cretan born and raised in the UK and actually I can relate to your blog very much in another context. It was very refreshing to watch. I now live in Crete not in Chania side but nearer to Heraklion. Unfortunatly I don't have any information about help with your hair, but I really hope this secret shop will reveal it self for you soon. Sorry to hear about the airport situation it's definatly victimisation and I'm very sad to hear you went through that I hope this never happens again! Maybe one day I'll catch you in Heraklion. Wishing you all well and safe. Xx
Hey, Adonia, thank you for your comment, I was in Heraklion last year, it's also beautiful there, I was so happy to see Knossos and the museum, we also went to the Creta Aquarium, that was so much fun. The city of Heraklion is also so big in comparison to Chania. We hope to visit Heraklion again soon.
@@island.odyssey nice seeing your channel dear. Pls what do you advice a woman coming to live and work in Greece for the good upbringing of her children
Hello sweetheart.
Thank you so much for all of your videos especially that my husband and I are looking to one day retire in Crete too.
We spend every honeymoon on Chania (Platanias) and it's made us definitely want to settle *on a homestead or like village house* somewhere there.
We want to be able to grow our own produce (small scale, not huge farm).
As Africans too.......we long for that organic life
Hey thank you for watching, my next video will be of interest to you so watch out for that, I will be posting tomorrow (Sunday)
@@island.odyssey bless you 💕💕💕
Just watched your video and I honestly don't know if I would've been able to stay as calm as you did at the airport. It was the smartest thing of course bc getting angry at them would've probably made things worse. Anyway, I am just going to say it: they were racist. Yes they were doing their job, but you can do your job without being disrespectful and demeaning and without the harrasment. You were treated that way bc you're black. No other reason. Period. And sadly enough it will probably not be the last time.
About the rest of your video: thank you for sharing. I visited Crete a couple of years ago and fell in love with the island. We stayed in Heraklion, Rethimnon and Chania and in all of those cities we were the only black people. Enjoyed all three but Rethimnon was my favorite city (although we were refused a table at one restaurant.. I can think of no other reason than our skin color, since other white people who came after us all got a table). Anywaaaay, overall people were open and kind and curious and asked real questions.
Thanks again for sharing! 🤗
Thank you so much for your comment, you are absolutely right this has not happened to me just once, it keeps happening to me every time I travel. I am actually planning to travel soon and it stresses me to think that I have to deal with it again.
Life is nice here in Crete until I have to travel.
I am sorry about the restaurant that refused you a table in Rethimno, that is terrible.
I have not experienced that here in Chania, people are always welcoming and super friendly especially when I speak to them in Greek.
@@island.odyssey I can imagine the stress travel or just the thought of traveling brings you. It's really sad that it has to be like this. Still hope you have a different experience this time. Safe travels!
I was also refused a table and i think its because i am white. Thats the only logical reason.
This had happened to me in Crete even I am Greek! Yes they probably were racist but they also rude to Greek ppl. I think this is a huge issue in many Greek islands mostly on so called 'touristic islands'.
I just visited Athens about a month ago and I think you’re right. I found that Greek people in Athens were rude in general. I didn’t experience it that way in Crete but it was very obvious in Athens. I did like certain parts of the city but it’s not a city I would visit again. I was there with my two sons and a girlfriend and we were constantly stared at. And not in a good way. I must say there were a few people (literally 3) who were curious about where we were from and we had lovely conversations with them, but for the most part walking around in Athens as a black person was not fun.
Love from Ethiopia 🇪🇹
About hair and nails Greeks are perfectionists! They want to make it perfect and to be happy with the results. So when they don't know something they afraid not to make a mistake and ruin your hair or nails. This happened to me when I brought extension from US and asked in Athens to put them, they refused because they didn't know the quality or texture.
Ooh that makes sense. It's OK, I have become an expert at doing my own hair now 😅
Hate airports for that reason... I have felt that before, assumed a criminal just by the look of my hair
I know right? it's crazy, it makes me feel exactly as you said, like a criminal just because of the color of my skin.
Also I’ve been to Greece but not Crete specifically. How would you explain the weather? I heard it’s 3000 hours of sunshine per year. How would you rate it compared to Africas sunshine or heat?
Your treatment in the airports was clear racism. I'm sorry that you had to endure that. Your husband in my opinion should have never left your side. Here in the US, white people (and other non-black people) will use the excuse of "just doing their jobs" to discriminate, harass and demean black people. Often times the racism isn't overt, it's subtle, aka microagressions, even unconscious, such that people aren't even aware that their behavior is racist. Racism isn't always an overt malicious act by people with conscious ill intent. I hope to be able to move to the Aegean coast of Greece one day, but I'm fully aware that the disease of racism is everywhere and can show up in the most mundane ways. Stay safe my sister.
Thank you! It's crazy how many Greeks in the comments are trying to justify this and saying it's not about color is telling.
Thank you Rose this was an important topic to cover.
hi i see you here for first time on you tube i am from greece on europe i want to tell you that you are so beautifull so sweet and i admire you sweety continue your life here in greece you deserves too much me i really i like black woomen
Thank you and happy new year
I am thinking of moving to Crete as well I live in USA and I have friends in Crete. it would be nice to see you around. I have a tea company it would be nice to have you come to a few of my tea parties.
Hey great content, I wish you best with your UA-cam channel. No disrespect but I need to educate you on a few things. I’m a mixed race of Bosnian, Turkish and Arabic. Firstly Greeks are not white. They are mixed and basically apart of Middle East. If you do research they were actually colonized by the Turks and Arabs so there mixed. They never colonized Africans so frankly you have nothing to worry about, your not in danger. If some Greek is rude to you it’s not because of your skin color. I know you have been raised to think that but no worries there not white and they have no racist history if you actually do research. Please don’t bring this mindset to Greece thinking your being attacked and hated wherever you go. If a Greek person gets to know you I’m sure they will love you unless your not a nice person and feeling victim or maybe that Greek is just not a nice person. When I went to Greece there was many Greeks staring at me and some were nice besides few times I got dirty looks so it doesn’t matter if you are African even I dealt with hatred. Many Africans in Greece live peacefully and comfortably and have never experienced racism. If someone doesn’t like you maybe there going through something. I pray you are having good time in Greece and remember they can’t be racist because they are mixed people and also very hospitable. Every country though has rude people so please don’t bring this environment and mindset to Greece. Learn Greek and actually try to make friends you’ll be in shock that they care less about skin color.
I am buying in Crete hopefully for this summer season and I will definitely be moving there ASAP. I'm from the UK black Jamaican decent. I'm definitely to locks up my hair before I settle there. I'd definitely do hair out there. You can get braided in rethymno. They even sell packet braid hair so you can DIY. Id love to meet you some time to hang out. Would be beautiful to have a sister friend in paradise.
Thank you so much for your comment and recommendation, getting braiding hair is not really a problem, I usually order from Amazon Germany, the problem is installing the braids.
Absolutely when you move here reach out so we can get together.
I wish you a happy new year, lets rock 2022.
Forgot to ask do you have a particular salon in Rethymno that you can recommend that does braids?
I'm Greek and other Greeks treat me like I don't belong. Keep smiling!
Wow! Really, I always thought that Greeks would embrace their own no matter where they reside, because here on the Island we have many Greeks who come for holidays from the US, Canada, and other parts of the world, I never thought that they would be treated differently🤔🤔🤔
@@island.odyssey I'm living, but I'm not. I'm not sure why I am treated with such neglect. I have conspiracy theories. The doors of opportunity are just starting to open at 48. So I hope this new found financial freedom will help me feel alive again. I don't know any relatives in Greece, but I hope to find some. My last name got twisted somehow from Andreopoulos to Andrews. I feel there's grand theft of essence in my midst. I have been ostercized and attacked by vibrations. My whole body is being attacked by these alien vibrations. I'm getting tortured, but I guess these vibrations are the modern day crucifix.
We have our bad apples as everyone else does I guess. I like to think that we 're open and friendly society but our security services like police customs etc while trying to be politically correct, havent got what it takes to be called color friendly or racism free especially after the immigration crisis erupted on us sinve 2018. It was kind of a secure choise of carrier back in our dark days from 50s to late 70s or 80s that mostly conservative ppl choose carriers in army or police force etc and the bad habits are still there I guess Not trying to whitewash things tho, you re right on this matter. Please dont let those golden dawn supporters break your spirit.
Darling your gorgeous very nice video well said.
Swahili?? Jambo, Rose! {{{Nakupenda}}} 😘 I learned this to greet Mapia, an orphaned elephant I adopted from DSWT, hoping to see him some day.
Hi...I would love to come to Crete to do your hair😉👍🏾
Wow, thank you.
Hi Rose I'll be in Athens Greece in June with my daughter.. Our names are Laura & Myiel we live in the US
And want to visit Crete. I hope we can
Connect with you at some point. It would be a pleasure... Thank you & let us know😊
Don't mind the airports, we just have too much illegal human or drug trafficing from Africa (Kenya is a place from where that frequently happens as far as I know), so it was a targeted, yet random check in a way. Don't take it too personally. Also don't forget airports are like borders whithin a country, so we can expect such strict treatement sometimes, especially in a country like Greece where airport services haven't developed yet a serious communication link between eachother, so you had to suffer 2 checks for the same thing. But nevertheless I think you already gave your answers to your questions on how Cretans and Greeks persive you, meaning as an equal to them. Stay safe and happy!
May I know where in Crete? I am just back from Chania
I'll love to move to Greece how do I go about it
I prefer to be called an African than to be called a colonial name😂😂😂😂😂❤
it is called χανιά,not χάνια
No one cares.
Καταλαβαίνεις ελληνικά;
You are so cute, I love you!
There’s literally nothing wrong to be black in Crete,we treat people all the same, culture colour etc!
In villages in mountains where people are not that much educated perhaps will be difficult,but on the sea side ,I truly believe there’s not that much difficulty to live as a black person
But you're not black so how can you say that with confidence?
@@LoveStarsWorld you get offended? If yes you should go to doctor!
Crete ,most of the Cretans have ancestry of Arabs and Africa,and we all know that ..
So yet again ,we are friendly as much we can and we respect all humans
It is so sad you can't live in your country; you have to go somewhere else looking for a better life.
Sweet Rose. When I move to Chania, we’ll get together and meet if you’d like. Wow, you’re growing bananas? You’re from Kenya? I’ve never been there but long to go sleep with orphaned elephants, there… I’ll be growing my own food once there as well. We’ll exchange crops, if you’d like 😊
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You should try being white in Africa.
My sister l am turkey I what to came there please help me with accommodation
Boring
Thanks for your input, I will try to be exciting the next time I talk about this issue🤔
@@island.odysseyNo, don't change a thing. I could listen to you and hear that laugh and see that smile all day long. Especially don't change for someone who has enough time to be disrespectful but lacks the brains to turn off the video. I've wanted to move to Crete my whole life. I have felt drawn there, and am fascinated by Bronze Age history and the area in general. Like I was Minoan in a past life. Your video was very helpful. Please keep doing them! 😊
Look for another channel you are not tired
I was just wondering, how do you manage to support yourself??, as I know Crete is very expensive, and there are no jobs there for foreigners..., The reason I am asking is because I would love to move to Crete, but I don't know what I can do there to support myself.