@@shezziesbaby At least Hogan would sell, even if it was for him to make the big comeback. Mil wouldn't even sell for his opponents. Try getting away with that now.
@@FHRiley-yk9by Going over doesn't necessarily mean that you have to win. You can lose and still be over with the crowd (case in point: Hart vs. Austin, WM13). Mil Mascaras no-selling Cactus' offence doesn't really help.
That chair spot where Cactus falls over it backwards outside the ring is pure gold; a great way to get a reaction from the crowd on his own. The sheer brilliance of Mick.
And Corny said later that nobody ever even remembered who Mick's opponent was. All they remember was that damn Nestea Plunge he did. That got him over for years after as one tough sumbitch. That and Vader's powerbomb on the concrete. Fuck, was Mick tough.
I love Corny, but full-time yelling wears you out as a viewer. I can't imagine watching an entire PPV with everything at that fever pitch. It ends up being annoying. Jim Ross certainly hyped everything but he backed off quite a bit between big bumps.
The story behind this and how Kevin Sullivan, Jim Cornette and Jim Ross all teamed up to get Mick over without Jim Herd, Rick Flair and Mascaras knowing it is awesome.
In 1979, a new pro wrestling publication hit newsstands and magazine racks across the nation. It was Pro Wrestling Illustrated. When the first issue went to press, Mil Mascaras was ranked at #8 in the Most Popular Wrestlers category.
In Mick's first book he talks about this match. Basically Mil was too scared to take any real bumps, like that horrendous backbreaker and that pitiful landing when Cactus threw him out of the ring. Mick goes on to say that he told Ric Flair he wanted to have at least 1 kickout after the big dropkick and fall. Flairs response was "This night is not about you. No kickouts". So poor Mick had to suffer but thanks to Ross and Cornette he didn't come off looking that bad. Which apparently made Flair even madder and led him to tell Mick that just because those guys get him over, does not mean he's over. Wrestling was brutal back then.
I’d never heard that Flair bit before. This bump with it’s awful looking whiplash from his head, looks like it could be as dangerous, if not more, than the first bump from the hell in a cell match!
Ric Flair is an egomaniacal fraud. He was always jealous that Foley got over on his own unique merits and didn't have to follow the generic "stuck-in-the-70's" bullshit style of wrestling that Flair never grew out of.
you may have come across this by now, but Mick talks about this with Steve Austin on his pod here: 50 minutes in ua-cam.com/video/WmQVY9fDLgM/v-deo.html
The funny thing is they got him over, not just from losing, but because he beat the hell outta whoever he was partnered with the first few weeks after the loss. It got to the point where the fans wanted the match over just so they could see Mick beat up the partner and then do that flying elbow because (other than the Frankensteiner) it was the craziest thing most of the fans in WCW had seen till the Luchadores showed up in the mid-90s.
dynamo805 It was certainly something few people on TBS at the time had ever seen. The plunge off the ring apron onto the concrete, passing the protective mats. That thud was brutal and the way he hit his head was just.....wow! And Jim Ross and Cornette on commentary were both making him out to look like he was one tough SOB....which Mick Foley was in his prime. Jim Cornette especially, I can't help but laugh at how out of breath he sounded when he said, "No human being could get up from that, but he's doing it!"
He just dumped on Mascaras hardcore, and not hard to see why. 5:40 Mascaras puts his hand down would be the 'Come on Mascaras, show some pride in your damn work!' part.
Jesus Christ. I LOVE(D) Mick Foley growing up, and I still do - but watching him take so many horrific bumps for so many years is very hard for me to watch now that I am an adult. Mick gave us absolutely everything he had in him, and he a legend that should NEVER be forgotten!
Mil Máscaras barrio el piso con Mick Foley porque era una leyenda contra un novato así de simple. Esa caída marca lo que sería el destino del futuro Mankind.
LoL how Mil Mascaras looked pissed at the end of the match, realizing that Cactus Jack came out as the underdog and won over the crowd instantly with his death defying bump ^^ The heel became the underdog hero, while the original face became the cocky heel!
To me it seems the crowd did not care about that bump they were just happy this match was over so they could get to the real matches. Only JR and Corny react because they know how legit it is.
Wrong. Mascaras wasn't pissed. It went over his head. He supposedly told Cactus after the match "no one has ever sold for me like that." He thanked him.
Oh man, I just listened to a clip where Foley talks about how he set this spot up with the video camera operator, and how Jim Cornette made him into a bigger star by his reaction. First time actually watching this I thought, "Man that's an oversell but it's working!" Then watched it in slo-mo... that's not an oversell at all! No wonder Mick Foley is a little off today, bumps like this... yeesh. Love him!
As we all learn later on in years we went from admiring mil mascara, especially here in South Texas is a legend, to realizing he wouldn't allow anyone over him. Not cool.
"Cactus Jack is dead!" It's 2023 and I still lmao everytime I watch this match. R.I.P. Kev. Miss ya bud. I know we'd still be laughing together at this one.
I get the feeling that this Mascaras guy doesn't like to sell... lol...treated Cactus like a first day jobber. Honestly the vibe was weird for me i felt like dude really thought he was winning a fight or that just going over is EXTREMELY important to him... thank God Mick made him look good and made the best of it lol. Also...is Mexican masked dude like 60+ years old under that mask? He's got a great body for that age if so, but it still looks that age.
0:52 Did you hear that? By that time already a Living Legend. What most of the people who came here because of Foley's Book doesn't know is that back then what we call "selling a move" nowdays was not very common in Lucha Libre. By that time, wrestlers in Mexico actually executed the moves and their opponents reacted naturally to them so when Mil Mascaras went to the U.S. he expected wrestlers to do the same. He said it before, "If a wrestler miss a move, I won't pretend like he hit me. I wouldn't expect someone else to sell a move I didn't do". It was just the way he learned.
Like Ajmal said down below, you sell moves so you don't hurt yourself in the ring. Even if he was taught differently in Mexico, it's not an excuse. He wasn't wrestling in Mexico all the time, so when he's in the US, he should respect how wrestling is done here. The guy refused to because he had a huge ego and it was about him. He's basically Hulk Hogan in his country.
I think part of the problem is that the WWE is running short on old-time wrestlers who are still on good terms with the company, so each year they have to rack their brains to come up with one or two inductees, probably by throwing darts at a bulletin board or rolling a 20-sided die.
5:50 When I was in high school our gym had stage that was about 4 feet off the ground. I did the Nestea Plunge off of it one time and it hurt to breath for a month
@@nevermorenovelist To try and get a reaction out of people. Pretty much the same reason Cactus Jack did all those horrific things to himself to hear people go “OOOHHHH!!”
When Mascaras wrestled here in North America, he worked all his matches like they were his Mexican "super hero" movies - the "good guy" always wins and registers no pain when you beat on him. I had a ringside seat at Springfield Civic Center (MA) in 1979 when Mil wrestled George "The Animal" Steele. Mil sold NONE of Steele's moves, and dropkicked "The Animal" out of the ring. Steele WALKED back to the dressing room and as he passed me, I thought I heard him say "the hell with this shit"!
Jimmy was heel & Corny was face. Ironic, as that's the opposite of their WWF/E banter, where J.R. put over Austin and Foley like nobody's business, whereas James E. was doing that forgettable NWA stable BS and leading Camp Cornette.
That was so awesome. Seeing a 25 year old Mick Foley face a legend like Mil Mascaras with freaking J.R and Jim Cornette on commentary. Just incredible all around
I have forgotten about every other match of this show except for the 6 man main event where Sting would blow out his knee. I laughed my ass off too back then when Corny said Cactus Jack is dead.
5:51 Foley’s head hitting the concrete was even more brutal than I had expected. And Foley ain’t even selling it that much. Dude is on the apron at 6. I don’t understand how that man is able to still form complete sentences.
Yea i'll agree mick's backbreaker was botched, but such an obvious no sell is bullshit. The commenters are right who said that plenty of other wrestlers would have just beat his ass for that this. The announcers themselves were dumbfounded. the couldn't say how cheap a move it was on the air but it was obvious how they felt by what they DIDN'T say, and how they went out of there way to put Foley over after that. As for Mascaras "skill" look at the sequence starting at 2:00 and how they chump messed up his own move. Real skill.
He also no sold a punch by Foley when Foley backed him into the corner. Check out the sequence starting at 4:16 and ending at around the 4:22 mark. Dude just did not Mick to look good at all. And as for the no sell you mentioned, yes that was bullshit. Not only does it make Mick look like a fool but it makes the whole business look sketchy to see a guy leap to his feet like a shot after a supposed big power move by his opponent, then blindside him from behind. A prick move for sure and I think that it really did hurt Mick for real. He hit that concrete floor with a thud didn't he?
Mick Foley along side Randy and Bill Mulkey are the three best workers when it came to jobbing their asses off. And *NO* I am *NOT* insulting them by referring to them as jobbers.
which country is that? he was well known all over the world, he wrestle all over and made movies. in the united states in the 70s he wrestled twice the then wwwf champion superstar billy graham for the title. in the 80s he wrestle Harley race for the nwa world title in japan. he was all over wrestling magazines. for him not to be known in any country is kind of strange.
The story is Mil was unwilling to put anyone over and/or refused to let anyone eliminate him...so he jumped. Essentially in his own eyes, he was the only wrestler worthy of eliminating himself!!
yes, I have heard a lot of wrestler complain about his ego. but is he the only legendary wrestler that has a ego? a lot of other wrestlers had huge egos. Hulk Hogan was one of them.
TherealRNO Bingo..Hogan was a prick and a politician but at least he put some guys over and sold even when he was going over. Mascaras wouldnt even sell for opponents
Jim Cornette during the match: "I didn't mean to offend the Mexican people - I think everybody should own one or two of em." LMAO JR just goes right back to calling the action. hahahahaha
Jim Cornette with the best color commentator line of all time: "Oh, no! Oh, no! Cactus Jack is dead! He's done it this time." A great sell job and when I watch this clip two or three times a year, I eagerly wait for it. As for Mil, when I was a kid in the late 70s, he was the man. A decade later, he was far from the man. I realize Mick was a colorful jobber at the time of this match, but Mil was so unprofessional and the sucking in stomach look is ridiculous.
Mil Mascaras I remember seeing him in Los Angeles. 92‘ ish ...!!! Dayum long time ago . My dad said let me take you to see Mexican Wrestling 🤼♀️ the Wrestling Event was the coolest thing . I love Wrestling. I gotta thank my dad for that .
Still have nightmares about that CRAP entrance music we used for people back then, even then it sounded SO cheap. LOVE how Cornette and Cactus worked this out, it was MAGIC to put him over!
logstrain my favourite part was when foley said to cornette when he found out he was facing mascaras "mascaras sucks" and how mascaras called a drop kick a drop kiss, funny stuff
Alot of wrestlers from Mil's day don't speak well of him. They say he was an acrobat first & a wrestler second. They say he was more concerned with keeping himself over & holding others down. They say he insisted on calling the match himself, because he only knew how to do so much. He was one of a handful I idolized in the late 70's, but looking back, everything they've said seems to be true when I watch his matches on here.
Mil Mascaras put on a good WRESTLING match. Mick Foley was trying to put on a show cause he really cant wrestle. People who are saying that Mascaras wasnt selling the moves have to realize that Mick Foley gave no moves to sell. Mascaras is a good technician, Foley is just a performer and stunt man
That backbreaker Mascaras could have sold better, but he decided not to because he wanted to look invincible in the ring. You're not fooling anyone bud. Performer or not, Foley at least was willing to sell. Mil just liked the spot light on him a bit too much for his own good.
HA!! I remember when he first started he went by Cactus Jack MANSON!! It's funnier now that Marylin Manson has came out since, now when u hear Manson you think more of Marylin then Chuck
It's a good thing Mil sold lots of tickets, he sure never sold anything else.
Haha, nice.
They knew going in Mascaras was going to no sell everything.
Mascaras was soooooo overrated. I thought he sucked!!
Stood right back up hahaha
Edit: more like he never even went down lol. He sprinted back to the ring
Facts...especially after this spectacle.
Mil Mascaras' record of putting people over makes Hogan look like the Brooklyn Brawler in comparison.
Interestingly enough, he put Jack over here without even realising that was the plan.
I wouldn’t go that far. Hogan’s the type of guy who sleeps with no sheets as it covers him for longer than 3
@@shezziesbaby At least Hogan would sell, even if it was for him to make the big comeback. Mil wouldn't even sell for his opponents. Try getting away with that now.
there is literally no reason that Cactus Jack, especially at the time, should win against Mil Mascaras.
@@FHRiley-yk9by Going over doesn't necessarily mean that you have to win. You can lose and still be over with the crowd (case in point: Hart vs. Austin, WM13). Mil Mascaras no-selling Cactus' offence doesn't really help.
That chair spot where Cactus falls over it backwards outside the ring is pure gold; a great way to get a reaction from the crowd on his own. The sheer brilliance of Mick.
Yes, he can't count on his opponent to give him a moment, even a heel moment.
@@scribe570 he gave him a kick, a club to the back and a scoop slam lol
5:56 Jim Cornette screaming: "Oh no! Cactus Jack is dead! He's done it this time!"
One of the best color commentator calls ever!
And Corny said later that nobody ever even remembered who Mick's opponent was. All they remember was that damn Nestea Plunge he did. That got him over for years after as one tough sumbitch. That and Vader's powerbomb on the concrete. Fuck, was Mick tough.
Right jr took a page out of his book come hell in the cell when Mick went off the cell
@@puddin9549 Jim Ross had several great calls for the Hell In A Cell match.
I love Corny, but full-time yelling wears you out as a viewer. I can't imagine watching an entire PPV with everything at that fever pitch. It ends up being annoying. Jim Ross certainly hyped everything but he backed off quite a bit between big bumps.
Comedic gold... lol
"This doesn't work for me, hermano"
No yob
@@tmage23 best comment in here
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WTF !!!!!!!!!! LOL "Steiner stayed up all nite studying for a urine test" LMAO !!!!!!
Greatness
hahaha
Cornette is pure gold on a mic
Doubt he's ever passed one
I love JR reaction to that, basically saying i have no idea how to respond to that
The story behind this and how Kevin Sullivan, Jim Cornette and Jim Ross all teamed up to get Mick over without Jim Herd, Rick Flair and Mascaras knowing it is awesome.
"Rick Steiner stayed up all night studying for a urine test." - Love those Cornette one-liners
In 1979, a new pro wrestling publication hit newsstands and magazine racks across the nation. It was Pro Wrestling Illustrated. When the first issue went to press, Mil Mascaras was ranked at #8 in the Most Popular Wrestlers category.
Jim Cornette - funny as hell! "There's nothing wrong with the Mexican people, I feel like everyone should own one or two of 'em"
"When you got guys like the Steiners, Rick Steiner stayed up all night one time for a urine test"
Holy Crap! That got me!
I laughed my ass off. So f'd up but so funny at the same time.
Yeah if he said that about a black person, everybody would lose their fucking minds. Haha! #StopMeWhenILie
Corny was never afraid to say what he thought
In Mick's first book he talks about this match. Basically Mil was too scared to take any real bumps, like that horrendous backbreaker and that pitiful landing when Cactus threw him out of the ring. Mick goes on to say that he told Ric Flair he wanted to have at least 1 kickout after the big dropkick and fall. Flairs response was "This night is not about you. No kickouts". So poor Mick had to suffer but thanks to Ross and Cornette he didn't come off looking that bad. Which apparently made Flair even madder and led him to tell Mick that just because those guys get him over, does not mean he's over. Wrestling was brutal back then.
Matthew Greenslit For whatever reason Flair didnt like Foley and did everything he could to hold him back.
I’d never heard that Flair bit before. This bump with it’s awful looking whiplash from his head, looks like it could be as dangerous, if not more, than the first bump from the hell in a cell match!
Bobby Capron hopefully he’s dead? Why cause of a wrestling match?
Ric Flair is an egomaniacal fraud. He was always jealous that Foley got over on his own unique merits and didn't have to follow the generic "stuck-in-the-70's" bullshit style of wrestling that Flair never grew out of.
you may have come across this by now, but Mick talks about this with Steve Austin on his pod here: 50 minutes in ua-cam.com/video/WmQVY9fDLgM/v-deo.html
who is here after hearing Cornette explain how they used losses to get Cactus Jack over? Including this one.
It was ingenious. Ross, Cornette and Sullivan had to get Mick over without Herd, Flair and Mascaras even noticing.
Im watching this on my phone, and my PC is currently showing the Cornette WCW 1990 KayfabeCommentary.
The funny thing is they got him over, not just from losing, but because he beat the hell outta whoever he was partnered with the first few weeks after the loss. It got to the point where the fans wanted the match over just so they could see Mick beat up the partner and then do that flying elbow because (other than the Frankensteiner) it was the craziest thing most of the fans in WCW had seen till the Luchadores showed up in the mid-90s.
My goodness that was a BRUTAL bump by Cactus. That thud! Maybe worse than Hell in the Cell.
dynamo805 It was certainly something few people on TBS at the time had ever seen. The plunge off the ring apron onto the concrete, passing the protective mats. That thud was brutal and the way he hit his head was just.....wow!
And Jim Ross and Cornette on commentary were both making him out to look like he was one tough SOB....which Mick Foley was in his prime.
Jim Cornette especially, I can't help but laugh at how out of breath he sounded when he said, "No human being could get up from that, but he's doing it!"
dynamo805 Look at him spit out some teeth.
+Deathbrewer It was dried saliva actually.
in his book, he talks about doing a similar bump to that every night for a week for $25 a night in Memphis. crazy son of a bitch
How he is still walking is nothing short of a miracle! I love Mick Foley, but wish he would’ve taken less risks
reading his book for the first time. it is pretty awesome to read a match excerpt and then watch it.
He just dumped on Mascaras hardcore, and not hard to see why. 5:40 Mascaras puts his hand down would be the 'Come on Mascaras, show some pride in your damn work!' part.
That one bump Mick took equals all the bumps Mascaras took in his entire career.
You watched every bump Mil took in 55 years? No, of course you didn't.
@@jasondelvaux3036 You're right, because there are none for him to have watched anyway.
Damn, that chair sold harder for Cactus Jack than Mil Mascaras did!
LOL @ 5:53. "Oh NO! Cactus Jack is DEAD!!!"
I remember the night this came on and I heard Jim Cornette make that call, I laughed my ass off then too.
Genius booking by cornette. Got cactus over. Cactus totally carried the match selling hard.
Cactus must have been 100 pounds lighter back then.
He looks amazing here wonder how old he was
Jay Harv28 unreal. Makes sense cause he moves well (for his ability lol)
Watching this after listening to Mick Foley on the Jim Cornette Experience, it wasn't his teeth it was apparently "dry" saliva he spat out
"Oh No! Cactus Jack is Dead!" That was the best call I ever heard in wrestling! This brings back memories!
I remember this match like yesterday. I knew this dude was special.
mil always pulled his pants up to his chin to cover his taco gut
If you listen closely, Cactus is introduced as "Captain Jack Manson".
he is one of the craziest son of a bitch,s in wrestling
Nice job, Gary Capetta.
+dagdogg listen? its written right on the screen lol
+gbvoul The screen says "Cactus Jack Manson", but Capetta says "Captain Jack Manson"
sweet
MIL MASCARAS a lot of respect for him!!!!
Jesus Christ. I LOVE(D) Mick Foley growing up, and I still do - but watching him take so many horrific bumps for so many years is very hard for me to watch now that I am an adult. Mick gave us absolutely everything he had in him, and he a legend that should NEVER be forgotten!
The head smacking off the concrete was nasty!
he ended up being one of the most beloved wrestlers of all time.
Mil Máscaras barrio el piso con Mick Foley porque era una leyenda contra un novato así de simple. Esa caída marca lo que sería el destino del futuro Mankind.
LoL how Mil Mascaras looked pissed at the end of the match, realizing that Cactus Jack came out as the underdog and won over the crowd instantly with his death defying bump ^^ The heel became the underdog hero, while the original face became the cocky heel!
To me it seems the crowd did not care about that bump they were just happy this match was over so they could get to the real matches. Only JR and Corny react because they know how legit it is.
Wrong. Mascaras wasn't pissed. It went over his head. He supposedly told Cactus after the match "no one has ever sold for me like that." He thanked him.
Mick such a class clown falling backwards over the chair. Definitely something I would've done in highschool
This match isn't that bad
Mil Mascaras has always been more fun to watch than Hulk Hogan, The Rock, Ultimate Warrior etc..
Oh man, I just listened to a clip where Foley talks about how he set this spot up with the video camera operator, and how Jim Cornette made him into a bigger star by his reaction. First time actually watching this I thought, "Man that's an oversell but it's working!" Then watched it in slo-mo... that's not an oversell at all! No wonder Mick Foley is a little off today, bumps like this... yeesh. Love him!
Really enjoyed this, great to hear JC working hard to put Mick over.
No one gave two shits about Mil Mascaras after seeing this match. The only thing people remembered was that big bump Mick took hitting the floor.
As we all learn later on in years we went from admiring mil mascara, especially here in South Texas is a legend, to realizing he wouldn't allow anyone over him. Not cool.
Alot of people here have no idea who Mil Mascaras is. Your knowledge of Professional Wrestling is a insult to the business.
"Cactus Jack is dead!" It's 2023 and I still lmao everytime I watch this match. R.I.P. Kev. Miss ya bud. I know we'd still be laughing together at this one.
I get the feeling that this Mascaras guy doesn't like to sell... lol...treated Cactus like a first day jobber. Honestly the vibe was weird for me i felt like dude really thought he was winning a fight or that just going over is EXTREMELY important to him... thank God Mick made him look good and made the best of it lol. Also...is Mexican masked dude like 60+ years old under that mask? He's got a great body for that age if so, but it still looks that age.
0:52 Did you hear that? By that time already a Living Legend. What most of the people who came here because of Foley's Book doesn't know is that back then what we call "selling a move" nowdays was not very common in Lucha Libre. By that time, wrestlers in Mexico actually executed the moves and their opponents reacted naturally to them so when Mil Mascaras went to the U.S. he expected wrestlers to do the same. He said it before, "If a wrestler miss a move, I won't pretend like he hit me. I wouldn't expect someone else to sell a move I didn't do". It was just the way he learned.
Like Ajmal said down below, you sell moves so you don't hurt yourself in the ring. Even if he was taught differently in Mexico, it's not an excuse. He wasn't wrestling in Mexico all the time, so when he's in the US, he should respect how wrestling is done here. The guy refused to because he had a huge ego and it was about him. He's basically Hulk Hogan in his country.
Mr. Cornette was determined to make Cactus into a star during and after this match on commentary.
I think part of the problem is that the WWE is running short on old-time wrestlers who are still on good terms with the company, so each year they have to rack their brains to come up with one or two inductees, probably by throwing darts at a bulletin board or rolling a 20-sided die.
5:50 When I was in high school our gym had stage that was about 4 feet off the ground. I did the Nestea Plunge off of it one time and it hurt to breath for a month
Like, on a dare? Or just because you felt like it?
@@nevermorenovelist To try and get a reaction out of people. Pretty much the same reason Cactus Jack did all those horrific things to himself to hear people go “OOOHHHH!!”
Mil Mascaras, Maestro de maestros, de la vieja escuela, de la buena lucha, un deleite verlo luchar.
looks like Mil has been skipping leg day for decades
It's an upper body business, kid.
He was probably around 45 years old in this match though.
He looks like the Tick
lol i like how jim cornette says "mil mascaras" sounds like hes just talking about mascara
Wow Mil Mascaras was 48 years old here and still moved quick as lightning.
When Mascaras wrestled here in North America, he worked all his matches like they were his Mexican "super hero" movies - the "good guy" always wins and registers no pain when you beat on him. I had a ringside seat at Springfield Civic Center (MA) in 1979 when Mil wrestled George "The Animal" Steele. Mil sold NONE of Steele's moves, and dropkicked "The Animal" out of the ring. Steele WALKED back to the dressing room and as he passed me, I thought I heard him say "the hell with this shit"!
I love how Cornette calls Cactus the real winner to subtly show his contempt for Mascaras being booked in the first place.
If Mascaras wrestled this way today he would never get over.
Especially AEW
Cornette promoting the hell out of Cactus. I love it!
If you want Mil to sell, then hit him for real. He would respect you if you earned it. Ask The Destroyer.
And Harley Race, And Giant Baba, and Tiger Mask II (Misawa).
@@vasquezge1and abismo negro, Canek, El santo.
That's why I have always remembered this match as I saw this bump when it happened.
I just asked myself this question "Has Mil Mascaras wrestled in WCW?" then i found this video
The way he sold that crash to the floor speaks to how good he was!
i had this on vhs and i remember rewinding it and playing it back a few times and then saying to myself yeah those are definitely his teeth lol
i have watched this video at least 20 times, and I just now noticed that Gary Michael Cappetta called him Captain Jack Manson.
That was his original name.
Say what you will about Mascaras, he definitely lives up to his rep.
If you mean being a douchebag, I agree.
MIL MASCARAS SUPAPOTO VIVA MASCARAS EL NO 1 MASCARAS MASCARAS MASCARAS MASCARAS NO 1
Good old Mick. Dude has done it all. And he's a good guy!
LMFAO @ jim ross calling cactus an idiot lmfao shit was funny
Jimmy was heel & Corny was face. Ironic, as that's the opposite of their WWF/E banter, where J.R. put over Austin and Foley like nobody's business, whereas James E. was doing that forgettable NWA stable BS and leading Camp Cornette.
TherealRNO JR wasnt a heel, Cactus was.
"from truth or consequences new mexico" always loved that.
Must've lived next door to Frank Goodish (RIP)
That was so awesome. Seeing a 25 year old Mick Foley face a legend like Mil Mascaras with freaking J.R and Jim Cornette on commentary. Just incredible all around
I have forgotten about every other match of this show except for the 6 man main event where Sting would blow out his knee. I laughed my ass off too back then when Corny said Cactus Jack is dead.
5:51 Foley’s head hitting the concrete was even more brutal than I had expected.
And Foley ain’t even selling it that much. Dude is on the apron at 6.
I don’t understand how that man is able to still form complete sentences.
Mascaras wouldn't even properly execute the suplex because he didn't want to fall on his back. That guy really was a horrible worker.
I would have loved to see that mark Mil Mascaras no sell for Bruiser Brody. He would have been beaten from one end of the arena to the other.
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Yea i'll agree mick's backbreaker was botched, but such an obvious no sell is bullshit. The commenters are right who said that plenty of other wrestlers would have just beat his ass for that this. The announcers themselves were dumbfounded. the couldn't say how cheap a move it was on the air but it was obvious how they felt by what they DIDN'T say, and how they went out of there way to put Foley over after that. As for Mascaras "skill" look at the sequence starting at 2:00 and how they chump messed up his own move. Real skill.
He also no sold a punch by Foley when Foley backed him into the corner. Check out the sequence starting at 4:16 and ending at around the 4:22 mark. Dude just did not Mick to look good at all. And as for the no sell you mentioned, yes that was bullshit. Not only does it make Mick look like a fool but it makes the whole business look sketchy to see a guy leap to his feet like a shot after a supposed big power move by his opponent, then blindside him from behind. A prick move for sure and I think that it really did hurt Mick for real. He hit that concrete floor with a thud didn't he?
The Nestea Plunge (flat back bump off of the Ring apron to an unprotected floor) was planned that way, according to Cornette.
I wish the video showed the after match where Cactus fought the live band.
Mick Foley along side Randy and Bill Mulkey are the three best workers when it came to jobbing their asses off. And *NO* I am *NOT* insulting them by referring to them as jobbers.
Foley wasn't kidding, Jim Cornette really made him look like the star of this one with his commentary and after that bump he deserves it.
Did Foley spit out 2 teeth after that bump on the floor he took?
I'm sure Mil Mascaras is a legend in Mexico, but in this country, he will be known as the idiot who eliminated himself in the Royal Rumble.
which country is that? he was well known all over the world, he wrestle all over and made movies. in the united states in the 70s he wrestled twice the then wwwf champion superstar billy graham for the title. in the 80s he wrestle Harley race for the nwa world title in japan. he was all over wrestling magazines. for him not to be known in any country is kind of strange.
The story is Mil was unwilling to put anyone over and/or refused to let anyone eliminate him...so he jumped. Essentially in his own eyes, he was the only wrestler worthy of eliminating himself!!
yes, I have heard a lot of wrestler complain about his ego. but is he the only legendary wrestler that has a ego? a lot of other wrestlers had huge egos. Hulk Hogan was one of them.
But, even Hogan sold to some. Mil NO SOLD everyone, never letting ANYONE look on par/better than him.
TherealRNO Bingo..Hogan was a prick and a politician but at least he put some guys over and sold even when he was going over. Mascaras wouldnt even sell for opponents
Yea u cant get much better praise in defeat than when Corny said-"Cactus Jack is the real winner here!"
Jim Cornette during the match: "I didn't mean to offend the Mexican people - I think everybody should own one or two of em." LMAO JR just goes right back to calling the action. hahahahaha
The last 2 seconds with peak beautiful 1990s Missy Hyatt tho... !!!
Jim Cornette with the best color commentator line of all time: "Oh, no! Oh, no! Cactus Jack is dead! He's done it this time." A great sell job and when I watch this clip two or three times a year, I eagerly wait for it.
As for Mil, when I was a kid in the late 70s, he was the man. A decade later, he was far from the man. I realize Mick was a colorful jobber at the time of this match, but Mil was so unprofessional and the sucking in stomach look is ridiculous.
Mascaras selling like he doesn't want to get his attire dirty.
Mil Mascaras I remember seeing him in Los Angeles. 92‘ ish ...!!! Dayum long time ago . My dad said let me take you to see Mexican Wrestling 🤼♀️ the Wrestling Event was the coolest thing .
I love Wrestling. I gotta thank my dad for that .
5:50 The Spot
Still have nightmares about that CRAP entrance music we used for people back then, even then it sounded SO cheap.
LOVE how Cornette and Cactus worked this out, it was MAGIC to put him over!
Cornette does a genuinely amazing job putting Cactus over on commentary
jim cornette: rick steiner study for a urine test? 4:05
Basically saying he's a dumbass
I would think it would be Scott Steiner that would need to study, since he loves the roids.
Calls like this prove why Cornette deserves to be spoken about in the same sentence with Heenan and Lawler. JR, well, theres only one.
Not difficult to understand the sheer disdian Mick Foley has towards Mascaras. Mascaras gave him absolutely nothing here.
"I Am In Urgent Need of Advice"
Mick write that book too?
That fall looked worse than the first HIAC bump...his head smacked the floor so hard lol
Damn, that bump by Cactus on the concrete is worse than Vader powerbombing him on the concrete.
Cannot believe this match made the "Best of Clash of Champions" DVD.
mick's book brought me here
logstrain my favourite part was when foley said to cornette when he found out he was facing mascaras "mascaras sucks" and how mascaras called a drop kick a drop kiss, funny stuff
+Anthony Bradley that's exctly why I came here
Me as well.
Hard to believe Mil is Alberto Del Rio's real-life uncle.
Alot of wrestlers from Mil's day don't speak well of him. They say he was an acrobat first & a wrestler second. They say he was more concerned with keeping himself over & holding others down. They say he insisted on calling the match himself, because he only knew how to do so much.
He was one of a handful I idolized in the late 70's, but looking back, everything they've said seems to be true when I watch his matches on here.
Mil Mascaras put on a good WRESTLING match. Mick Foley was trying to put on a show cause he really cant wrestle. People who are saying that Mascaras wasnt selling the moves have to realize that Mick Foley gave no moves to sell. Mascaras is a good technician, Foley is just a performer and stunt man
That backbreaker Mascaras could have sold better, but he decided not to because he wanted to look invincible in the ring. You're not fooling anyone bud. Performer or not, Foley at least was willing to sell. Mil just liked the spot light on him a bit too much for his own good.
Old school says punches to the head are bad because they expose the business. Not surprised Mil sold that back elbow but not the punch.
What a sickening thud when he hit that floor...... 👀
I like the way Mascaras won't even be dropped the 8 inches to the ground after the backbreaker without putting his hand down.
Mil Mascaras awesome moves 2:56 - 6:30
3:38. Damn, look at that chair shot. I don't know how he got up after that.
HA!! I remember when he first started he went by Cactus Jack MANSON!! It's funnier now that Marylin Manson has came out since, now when u hear Manson you think more of Marylin then Chuck
4:57 "BORING"
LMAO