Spartan radials! 520/ea isn’t bad... it’s good to see them coming down... but.... if you absolutely have to have them... be easy on the transaxles...( and since you have all this on video.... you can’t take em off, then put the stock tires back on when you take it in) .... but these void the warranty with Hydro-gear on the transaxles.... just looking out for ya.... but... totally up to you. Hate to see a transaxle poop the bed on ya. Love those new 3800’s that are tapped for an external oil cooler.. ala the 2020 Z2. That’s about like the hustler hyper drive unit.. using the motor’s upper fan as the “fan” for the oil cooler..
Great video - I’m curious to see if the new tires change your cutting height and also how they do as far as tearing up the turf on a nice manicured lawn? I’ve read that you really have to pay attention when turning - please post another vid maybe two weeks in using them - thanks
I have a 52” SRS Z2 - I’m thinking the tweel tires you put on your 52” would be the same for my machine - What is the tweel part # for those tires you installed - Did you call Ferris to find out if they would fit? It’s a bit confusing on the tweel website as it asks for “off set” number Etc. Thx
Thanks for taking the time to make this comparison video can you tell me is the 24x12x12 Tweel outside diameter the same as the 24x12x12 tyre I wouldn’t want to loose any ground speed thanks 😎🇦🇺
So it seems like on slopes during wet conditions the tweets still slide. Ima just keep my normal tires in and continue using my walk behind when it comes to those slopes on wet conditions
Did you feel the stock tires on the Z3 52 were too narrow? I'm looking to replace an old Wright 52 with a Ferris. I'm torn between the Z2 and the Z3. Heavier machine with smaller rear tires gives me pause.
Man! Those look so sweet 😎 Do you think they would fit my Z2 ?🤔....anyway keep us updated on how they perform and how long the tread last! Thanks for sharing 👍.....Congrats on 10k subs man 💪
I want to get these for my 52 and 61 z3x mowers but cannot find the model number. When I look at Michelins site it doesn't even show a fit for either mower. Can you tell me which you purchased?
My dealer called ferris. The tweel cannot be bigger than the oem tire. Z2 has 23- 10.5x12 there are no tweels that size. Will it fit? Probably, but warranty is out if ferris find them on a z2.
Do you have a video in dry conditions while cutting? I’m curious to see how the cut is with the twills in dry conditions while striping a yard..... Given the discharge side sticks out past the deck a little, does it effect the stripe any or cutting width? Seems like it would trac over in the opposite tire track when going back an forth and cause the lines to be off? Then again I may just be overthinking it. I tend to do that.
Awesome thank you!! I’m currently torn between getting the 52 or 61. I currently have a 52 FW35 and I want to add a Z3X with it. I like the 52 but I’m afraid of how it will do on hills. Seems like the twills are the magic ticket for it. So with the twill sticking past the deck a little bit on the discharge side, it doesn’t effect the stripe any? Thanks again for your information on all this. It’s a big purchase and I wanna make sure I make the right decision.
just did some homework. the Michelin 54411 tweel is the same as wright 72410098 tweel. 5 lug -1.3" offset. 24, 12x12 wright is slightly cheaper $539.97
Love the video’s!! I definitely spend a lot of time watching your vids and they help out a ton so thank u...I own 3 61 z3x’s and 1 52 z3x:) do you have any problems with the deck latch system? All 3 61’s don’t want to latch for transport.. it’s driving me crazy!! Hoping u know a fix..
HandyGuy 2016 I wish it was the spring adjust... the whiole latch assembly has shifted to far to the right.. I can’t figure out any adjustments and dealer has no idea what to do.. guess I’ll be cutting out some metal!! Lol thanks so much for the reply and if it happens to u make a video fix please😉
HandyGuy 2016 very possible.. I mow roughly 150 acres a week and most of it is extremely rough..probably tweaking those lift levers.. I’ll try heating it up and see if I can get it back in line with the latch plate..thanks again!! and I’ll keep u posted:)
@@rambonie3339 try a little leverage before heating it up, might bend sideways easier than you think. Maybe a small prybar, would save you the disassembly and needing to repaint after applying heat. Just an idea from looking at mine.
Need dimension help. Ferris website says the width with the deflector up is 67". My trailer opening is 65". It it truly 67"? Why is it 6" wider than the cutting width? Thanks
I know it's off topic again but I was wondering if you knew if the hydros can be adjusted or not. This one I just bought, the right one goes faster than the left one.
Hello Again - So they list Tweel #54411 as being 12" wide but you proved that is not the case when the tires are new - So I've been reading that some guys say the front or back Tweels need to settle which to me means soften up a bit - So now does the rear Tweel read 12" wide ? or is it still 10 3/4 wide like they were when new - I was trying to figure out why they are listed at 12" wide when they clearly are not - Any new updates would be great - Hope your season is going well - Cheers
I will have to check, but I assume it is because it is a 12" replacement, which doesn't mean actually 12"? Not sure how tire manufacturers determine their measurements, but I am really happy with the fit and quality so far. I will measure the width when I get a chance.
@@HandyGuy2016 Hi Again - Could you please measure the width of the rear tweel tires, per our previous conversation? I was wondering if they are still that 10.5 wide since now they are broken in - Thx
I adjusted the back of the deck up about a quarter of an inch, to maintain proper pitch. I'm guessing that is the settling from being broke in. Most guys wouldn't bother with a quarter inch, but I'm a perfectionist lol.
@@Stl515273 Yes I have, I'm actually going to put a video or two together about that. They are soooo much better than pneumatic tires. The Tweels have such good weight distribution and traction that they practically float across mud.
Can I get the contact info for your michelin dealer? I'm 3 hours west of you and interested in making a purchase but our local dealers can't get these. I have a Z3X 61', so interested in the same tires. Might be worth a road trip!
I wanted to give you an update on my z3x’s.. I tried posting a comment earlier but it didn’t show so if it does show up know I’m not crazy.. lol Anyway the welds on the frame to the height and transport arm are cracked... They are split on all 4 of my z3x’s:/ and at this point I’m not sure Ferris is going to fix them.. They aren’t 2 years old and all have less than 200 hours..
HandyGuy 2016 I would bet they are even if it isn’t visible.. first sign I had was the deck height started dropping.. Then the handle stopped wanting to latch for transport..what’s funny is when I dropped one of my mowers off at the dealer there was another guy there that just started having same problems..Ferris definitely has a design flaw.. my mowers still look like new and are maintained more often then required.. sooo I’m dying to get an answer back what they plan to do..
Last update.. Ferris admitted they have a problem.. they are replacing the frame plates on all 4 of my mowers... they are trying to figure out a structural fix for the near future... but as of now just replacing with the same side plates... be aware that your mowers will do it if they aren’t already:/
Hi, I don't know for sure, but Tweels are made by Michelin Tire and I think they have a list of models/sizes they have available on their website. If not, contact a tire shop that carries Michelin and they should be able to find out.
I'm not too worried about warranty, I want to get the best performance out of my machines. If the hydros fail because of Tweels, then I chose the wrong mowers anyway.
@@shawn_143 You said something rude to him. He says something back to you and you get mad? lol If you're going to be and internet funny guy you better learn how to take it if you're gonna give it.
Looks good man!!
Thank you 😊
Those look good man. We ran tweels for a while but sold them as they didnt like wet situations at all.
I'm really liking them so far, big improvement in traction.
Great video
Spartan radials! 520/ea isn’t bad... it’s good to see them coming down... but.... if you absolutely have to have them... be easy on the transaxles...( and since you have all this on video.... you can’t take em off, then put the stock tires back on when you take it in) .... but these void the warranty with Hydro-gear on the transaxles.... just looking out for ya.... but... totally up to you. Hate to see a transaxle poop the bed on ya. Love those new 3800’s that are tapped for an external oil cooler.. ala the 2020 Z2. That’s about like the hustler hyper drive unit.. using the motor’s upper fan as the “fan” for the oil cooler..
If they weren’t covered by warranty then why do they sell mowers with them on?
I need these on my work van. Haha
Very nice thorough review. Thank you again. One question do you think it will work on a 52” Z2 and do you recommend it?
I'm not sure if they fit the Z2 or not, but if they will fit it they are worth the investment from what I am seeing so far.
Great video - I’m curious to see if the new tires change your cutting height and also how they do as far as tearing up the turf on a nice manicured lawn? I’ve read that you really have to pay attention when turning - please post another vid maybe two weeks in using them - thanks
Will do 😊
I have a 52” SRS Z2 - I’m thinking the tweel tires you put on your 52” would be the same for my machine - What is the tweel part # for those tires you installed - Did you call Ferris to find out if they would fit? It’s a bit confusing on the tweel website as it asks for “off set” number Etc. Thx
@@larrya2344 I ordered them through a Michelin Tire Dealer in town. The part # is MISC TWEELS 54411 24 12 12
Thank you
Thanks for taking the time to make this comparison video can you tell me is the 24x12x12 Tweel outside diameter the same as the 24x12x12 tyre I wouldn’t want to loose any ground speed thanks 😎🇦🇺
It's almost exactly the same. I didn't have to adjust my deck pitch or anything after putting them on.
So it seems like on slopes during wet conditions the tweets still slide. Ima just keep my normal tires in and continue using my walk behind when it comes to those slopes on wet conditions
Grass flap is same width as wheel so no problem. That price is insane though.
Yeah, it's working great and the increased traction and better ride quality are worth the expense.
Did you feel the stock tires on the Z3 52 were too narrow? I'm looking to replace an old Wright 52 with a Ferris. I'm torn between the Z2 and the Z3. Heavier machine with smaller rear tires gives me pause.
Yes I did, but these Tweels completely fixed that.
Man! Those look so sweet 😎 Do you think they would fit my Z2 ?🤔....anyway keep us updated on how they perform and how long the tread last! Thanks for sharing 👍.....Congrats on 10k subs man 💪
Thank you brother 😊 What size are the factory tires on the Z2?
@@HandyGuy2016 they are 23 X 10.5-12
@@JsCrazyCutzLLC I don't know for sure, but I bet they would fit. You can come over and we can try them 😊 Just a short drive 😉
Love the channel man!! Should I buy the z3x tom? Would love your input? I’m sold honestly after watching tons of reviews.
I don't regret it, so yes.
Thanks bud. !
They said they don't have the tweels for the 52inch hustler but ferris has them I wonder would they fit on the 52in x one
Not sure
Interesting. Looks like grass, mud, buildup inside the wheels may be a concern? Do you run an air compressor in your trailer?
I have a Ryobi 18V air compressor in my truck.
As long as you're not stuffing them with gravel or running them through wet cement, the rotating action pushes out any caked up loose material.
looks fricking awesome! what trashcan attachment is that? and where did you purchase the tweels? thx!
The Tweels are from a Michelin Tire Dealer and the trash bag is actually a Toro attachment.
The part # is MISC TWEELS 54411 24 12 12
Did you keep the 61 inch tweets on the 52 inch mower did you buy them from a Michelins dealer
Yes and yes. They are the same ones for both mowers.
Good morning. About to order some. Same z3x mower. What offset are yours? That's what's confusing me is the proper off set to buy
The part # is MISC TWEELS 54411 24 12 12
The part # is MISC TWEELS 54411 24 12 12
I want to get these for my 52 and 61 z3x mowers but cannot find the model number. When I look at Michelins site it doesn't even show a fit for either mower. Can you tell me which you purchased?
Misc Tweels 54411 24 12 12
@@HandyGuy2016 thank you
My dealer called ferris. The tweel cannot be bigger than the oem tire. Z2 has 23- 10.5x12 there are no tweels that size. Will it fit? Probably, but warranty is out if ferris find them on a z2.
That sucks
Do you have a video in dry conditions while cutting? I’m curious to see how the cut is with the twills in dry conditions while striping a yard..... Given the discharge side sticks out past the deck a little, does it effect the stripe any or cutting width? Seems like it would trac over in the opposite tire track when going back an forth and cause the lines to be off? Then again I may just be overthinking it. I tend to do that.
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Here is a video in dry conditions, but there are no issues.
Awesome thank you!! I’m currently torn between getting the 52 or 61. I currently have a 52 FW35 and I want to add a Z3X with it. I like the 52 but I’m afraid of how it will do on hills. Seems like the twills are the magic ticket for it.
So with the twill sticking past the deck a little bit on the discharge side, it doesn’t effect the stripe any? Thanks again for your information on all this. It’s a big purchase and I wanna make sure I make the right decision.
@@MichaelMyers-gi3ut no issues at all.
just did some homework. the Michelin 54411 tweel is the same as wright 72410098 tweel. 5 lug -1.3" offset. 24, 12x12 wright is slightly cheaper $539.97
What brand tweets do you have for the Ferris I have the same mower as your 52
Michelin
I'm curious if it helps when it's wet?
They do, quite a bit.
@@HandyGuy2016 they seem to stick out a little wider than the deck.
@@DS-TRUCKS a little bit on the discharge side, but they are working out excellent 👍
Love the video’s!! I definitely spend a lot of time watching your vids and they help out a ton so thank u...I own 3 61 z3x’s and 1 52 z3x:) do you have any problems with the deck latch system? All 3 61’s don’t want to latch for transport.. it’s driving me crazy!! Hoping u know a fix..
Thank you 😊 I have not had that issue with the deck latch. There is a spring inside the handle that could be the issue?
HandyGuy 2016 I wish it was the spring adjust... the whiole latch assembly has shifted to far to the right.. I can’t figure out any adjustments and dealer has no idea what to do.. guess I’ll be cutting out some metal!! Lol thanks so much for the reply and if it happens to u make a video fix please😉
@@rambonie3339 can the handles be bent or bent back over?
HandyGuy 2016 very possible.. I mow roughly 150 acres a week and most of it is extremely rough..probably tweaking those lift levers.. I’ll try heating it up and see if I can get it back in line with the latch plate..thanks again!! and I’ll keep u posted:)
@@rambonie3339 try a little leverage before heating it up, might bend sideways easier than you think. Maybe a small prybar, would save you the disassembly and needing to repaint after applying heat. Just an idea from looking at mine.
What about front tweets? Does it help the ride?
The Tweels do improve the ride, as far as the front Tweels I don't think I will spend the money on them until I wear out the factory no flats.
Hi which one did you get MSPN 50357 OR MSPN 77185 from Michelin
The part # is MISC TWEELS 54411 24 12 12
Ok thank you We r buying the Z3 in about a week or so
@@tracysonslawncare9036 Nice! We definitely like ours.
Thank you we love your setup SWEET next year we r going for the 3zx 52
Need dimension help. Ferris website says the width with the deflector up is 67". My trailer opening is 65". It it truly 67"? Why is it 6" wider than the cutting width? Thanks
I will measure it when I get a chance, but I would guess 63/64.
@@HandyGuy2016A guy selling his here measured his and it's 64". Thank you though 🙏
I know it's off topic again but I was wondering if you knew if the hydros can be adjusted or not. This one I just bought, the right one goes faster than the left one.
@@ramblin_man23 the linkage from the hydro to the handle can be adjusted by a dealership to even the speed.
@@HandyGuy2016 I'm mechanically inclined. Is it something that has to go to the dealer?
Sir
Where did you get that chute??
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Let me know when they cost One Fiddy lol
What mower shop you use, that's a good price
I ordered them through a Michelin Tire Dealer in town. The part # is MISC TWEELS 54411 24 12 12
Hello Again - So they list Tweel #54411 as being 12" wide but you proved that is not the case when the tires are new - So I've been reading that some guys say the front or back Tweels need to settle which to me means soften up a bit - So now does the rear Tweel read 12" wide ? or is it still 10 3/4 wide like they were when new - I was trying to figure out why they are listed at 12" wide when they clearly are not - Any new updates would be great - Hope your season is going well - Cheers
I will have to check, but I assume it is because it is a 12" replacement, which doesn't mean actually 12"? Not sure how tire manufacturers determine their measurements, but I am really happy with the fit and quality so far. I will measure the width when I get a chance.
@@HandyGuy2016 Hi Again - Could you please measure the width of the rear tweel tires, per our previous conversation? I was wondering if they are still that 10.5 wide since now they are broken in - Thx
Just did that recently, still the same.
@@HandyGuy2016 Thx for the update - Have you had to adjust the deck pitch when the rear tires were new and after they were broken in at all - thx
I adjusted the back of the deck up about a quarter of an inch, to maintain proper pitch. I'm guessing that is the settling from being broke in. Most guys wouldn't bother with a quarter inch, but I'm a perfectionist lol.
how's it working out bet stripes better?
Definitely better traction, floats across mud where pneumatic tires would sink and rut. Does help with stripes, but that is just a bonus.
Where in Missouri are you located, I'm in Springfield. Mo.
Oh cool, I'm in West Plains, about 1.5 hours from you.
@@HandyGuy2016 have you mowed in muddy areas yet and if so how do they do vs regular tires?
@@Stl515273 Yes I have, I'm actually going to put a video or two together about that. They are soooo much better than pneumatic tires. The Tweels have such good weight distribution and traction that they practically float across mud.
You’re misusing those tweels as intended. You notice those warnings on those bright red stickers? Those say “ load side”. Meaning hub face.
Can I get the contact info for your michelin dealer? I'm 3 hours west of you and interested in making a purchase but our local dealers can't get these. I have a Z3X 61', so interested in the same tires. Might be worth a road trip!
Ozarko Tire 417-256-9500
I wanted to give you an update on my z3x’s.. I tried posting a comment earlier but it didn’t show so if it does show up know I’m not crazy.. lol Anyway the welds on the frame to the height and transport arm are cracked... They are split on all 4 of my z3x’s:/ and at this point I’m not sure Ferris is going to fix them.. They aren’t 2 years old and all have less than 200 hours..
WOW, I will have to check mine to see if they are doing the same thing. I have about 450 hrs on both of mine.
HandyGuy 2016 I would bet they are even if it isn’t visible.. first sign I had was the deck height started dropping.. Then the handle stopped wanting to latch for transport..what’s funny is when I dropped one of my mowers off at the dealer there was another guy there that just started having same problems..Ferris definitely has a design flaw.. my mowers still look like new and are maintained more often then required.. sooo I’m dying to get an answer back what they plan to do..
Last update.. Ferris admitted they have a problem.. they are replacing the frame plates on all 4 of my mowers... they are trying to figure out a structural fix for the near future... but as of now just replacing with the same side plates... be aware that your mowers will do it if they aren’t already:/
@@rambonie3339 appreciate the info, I have not checked mine yet, afraid to look lol.
HandyGuy 2016 I guarantee it’ll need replaced.. at least you know right where to go to find it:) took me a month to figure it out.. lol
So are they 33hp or 37 hp?
The 52" is a 33 horse, the 61" is a 37.
Why aren't these regularly available for cars and trucks? They would cut down on people on the side of the road with flat tires.
I don't know, but I agree 💯.
Michelin has been trying to get this tech to cars for a while. Seems like more weight does not work as well
Can you share the company or website where you the Tweels ? Thanks Rob I have a 52 Ferris
Michelin Tire Company or a tire shop that sells Michelin brand tires. Part# Misc Tweels 54411 24 12 12
Do thay make a 22
Do thay make a 28
Hi, I don't know for sure, but Tweels are made by Michelin Tire and I think they have a list of models/sizes they have available on their website. If not, contact a tire shop that carries Michelin and they should be able to find out.
Voided that warranty with Hydro-Gear? Should have gotten the Spartan radials, since they will fit the Z3.... 🤦🏻♂️ ... Buddddd..!??
I'm not too worried about warranty, I want to get the best performance out of my machines. If the hydros fail because of Tweels, then I chose the wrong mowers anyway.
If I see a lawn company running those kind of wheels good chance I'm not asking for a quote
I don't know why, but you would probably not be a customer I would want.
@@HandyGuy2016 well you're a dick huh
@@shawn_143 You said something rude to him. He says something back to you and you get mad? lol If you're going to be and internet funny guy you better learn how to take it if you're gonna give it.
@@shawn_143 you don’t understand. We pick our customers. You don’t pick us