Rediscovering Elegance: Bentley S2 Restoration Deep Dive | Tyrrell's Classic Workshop
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- Опубліковано 30 лип 2024
- In this latest episode of Tyrrell's Classic Workshop, Iain delves deep into the ongoing restoration of a Bentley S2, a project that has captivated our audience in previous Tyrrell's Classic Workshop videos.
This episode offers a fascinating exploration of how Rolls-Royce and Bentley, once operating as a single entity, ingeniously adapted the Bentley S2, originally designed for a straight-six configuration, to accommodate a massive V8 engine.
With the engine out, Iain he reveals the robust chassis-frame of the Bentley S2, offering viewers a rare glimpse into the car's construction and delves into the rich lineage it shares with the Rolls-Royce Silver Cloud series.
Furthermore, Iain explores some of the intricacies of the steering mechanism, ingeniously designed to fit into the limited space of the Bentley S2 once the V8 engine had been added. He also provides insights into the car's complex heating and ventilation system, which, despite its cumbersome nature, is an integral part of the vehicle's unique character.
This episode is a treasure trove of information for classic car enthusiasts and admirers of the Bentley S-Type and Rolls-Royce Silver Cloud series. Iain's expertise shines as he takes us through each step of the restoration, bringing us closer to the reinvigoration of this majestic vehicle.
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Chapters
00:00 Introduction
07:02 Origin of the V8-engined RR / Bentley models
09:47 How do you fit a V8 into a car designed for a straight-six?
16:20 A heating system big enough for a house
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Title: 1961 Bentley S2 6.2 Taken near Shipston-on Stour, Warwickshire
Creator: Vauxford
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Title: 1964 Bentley S3 Standard Saloon Front Taken at the Salon Privé Concours d'Elegance Classic Car Motor Show 2019, Blenheim Palace
Creator: Vauxford
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Title: Bentley Motors, Crewe.
Creator: Graham Shaw www.geograph.org.uk/profile/7586
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Title: Rolls-Royce Merlin 35 aero engine
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Title: Rolls-Royce Silver Cloud Series 1
Creator: Charles01
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Title: The 320ci straight-eight "Dynaflash" engine in a 1940 Buick Super Series 50 Sedan
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Title: Packard 4,710cc straight eight engine
Creator: TTTNIS
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Title: 1938 Rolls-Royce Phantom III
Creator: Matthew Lamb www.flickr.com/people/9416961...
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Title: Rolls-Royce B40 engine in an Austin Champ
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Title: Two Rolls-Royce Phantom IV owned by the Spanish Army
Creator: Guardia Real
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Title: Rolls Royce Phantom IV
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Title: 1957 Lincoln_Premiere at Classic-Gala 2021
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Title: 1962 Bentley S2 Continental
Creator: John Sweney
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Title: Bentley Continental S2 LHD
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Title: 1959 Bentley S Continental Flying Spur (H. J. Mulliner )
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Title: Citroen Traction Avant body-chassic unit
Creator: Autocar, 1935
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Title: Rolls-Royce Silver Shadow
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Title: Rolls-Royce Griffon aero engine
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Title: 1955 Jaguar XKD Jaguar XK6 engine
Creator: Sfoskett
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Title: Jaguar XK120 "Montlhery" FHC
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I’m 60 and retired now, I live alone and virtually never, ever see anyone. I’ll never own a car like this but these videos are just a wonderful way to spend a Sunday evening! 🙂
Hope you are well.
How about a visit to the pub?
Where’s your woman?
I'm with you sir...
Visit your local church. You will always be welcomed and make friends.
I owned a 1962 S2 for 5 years. Loved it, and appreciated all the special engineering that went into it.
Iain delivers a completely free education relating to the history and engineering of yet another famous marque. The man is a philanthropist.😊
Thank you Phil, that's very kind!
Love the video, love Iain
Not the car for me but fascinating nonetheless
The DNO ❤❤❤
I absolutely love the 2 door coupe ‘Continental’ version of the S2. One of the most beautiful cars ever made.
"An amalgamation of American influence and British pragmatism." Brilliantly stated, Iain.
Thank you for this fascinating deep dive into the elegant Bentley S2.
Hope you show this car again when the rebuild is complete.
I certainly will
The best way of allowing us to visit the workshop, without getting in the way...Thank you Iain.
Iain is great in front of a camera, He explains things in a matter of fact and easy to comprehend manner. The videos always seem to go by so quickly, which is a sure sign of enjoying one's self! 😁
Thank you!
In my late teens, during the 60's, I worked for an independent Rolls Royce dealership. I remember spending many hours removing the OSF wing and extracting the heater box from an S1. Compared with fitting new heaters to family cars, (heaters supplied as optional extras in those day), the latter were a good deal easier. I can also vouch for the length of time it took to change spark plugs on the S2 as well. The biggest pleasure came when the job was done: Now go and road test it! The S2 was a revelation. Happy days.
That heater unit has all the compactness and sophistication of a pot-bellied stove. Did Rolls-Royce recruit a former steam-locomotive engineer in Crewe as ab HVAC specialist?
Thinking about it... they might well have done. Plenty of that kind of expertise in Crewe.
I think the cars with Factory A/C had even bigger and more complex heater units, Plue evidently the RR facory AC wasn't very good anyway!
Since I am in Australia when Iain publishes a new video I usually get notice of it in the morning, but I don't let myself enjoy it till the evening after my day is done... with a select beverage of course.
Once upon a time, when elegance in cars still existed.
It's just about impossible for a true car person not to love this channel. Cheers Iain.
My father had a second hand S2 which was magnificent and respectably quick in the 1974. At one time car developed a leak from the fuel tank which was replaced free of charge by the agent "as it must have been faulty" in spite of the car being 10 years old at the time.
Goodness that takes me back! I once had to put new looms in an S3 LWB. That car came over from Nigeria where it had languished in a barn for years. in fact the whole car was covered in fine red sahara desert dust.
It had a centre partition and all round electric windows and the heater controls were dupilcated in the rear compartment, lots or wiring. Lots of it had to made up by us as the supplied looms were for a standard car.
We also fitted a big A/C unit in the front part of the boot with vents let into the rear parcel shelf., that worked poretty well too.
Also the RR steam valve was removed and a modified preesurised cooling system with electric fans plus the AC condensor was squeezed in the front. It was going to spend alot of time in state parades at low speed!
I well remember setting up all those rotary heater flaps and water valves,too. The car also had decent modern sound systen subtly installed together with an amp and big horn speaker under the lh wing so the crown princ could play his jungle call as he toured his patch! It sounded a bit like a "tarzan" call.
I often wonder what became of that car. It was 2 tone grey over blue. We did hear it got shot up in an assasintaion attempt in Nigeria in the end. Wether that's true or not.
Thanks for your very interesting words!
This was an immensely interesting look into RR technology from that time!
It's extremely rare to have an opportunity like this!
Thank you for letting us into your workshop!
I don't envy the man keeping track of all the bolts, washers, and nuts in that construction. I worked at a Rolls and Mercedes dealer from 1970 to 1990. I sorted out a poor running 1926 Rolls. Brake servos, suspension leaf spring leather boots, electrics....
I sure don't miss that mess. Mercedes work was a relief. Great look into buried secrets under the skin👍👍. 🇺🇲
I have known for years that to change spark plugs on a Silver Cloud 2 one had to remove the front wheel and inner wing panel.
Thank you Iain for explaining why.
Interesting as always! That heater unit looks as though it came out of a Lancaster bomber 😮
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I love how the bulkhead is basically wwii RAF cockpit green ( also used for engine bays). With the black painted ancillaries, it resembles a spitfire, hurricane etc...engine bay.
I do love the Rolls Royce/Bentley from the 1950’s. The Silver Cloud has such beautiful coach work that lends well to two tone paint.
Every time I hear the intro I get the same level of excitement as a child might get when they hear the voice of a beloved distance relative who’s arrived for the holidays! 😊. I am ALL about the high performance hoopla of screaming engine and burning tires, but Iain’s videos of these grand ol’ classics has inspired the exact same enthusiasm in me. Thank you, Iain for sharing your passion and knowledge in these videos for all of us to enjoy. Happy Christmas, sir!!
What great comments to receive. Thank you too and have a wonderful Christmas!
I love the word “gubbins” 😂😂😂
Bentley S2 does a nervous wee... great stuff! Again, 10/10 on the nerd scale. It's amazing to dig deep into the engineering on these cars.
This is like the Royal Institution Christmas Lectures for adults 😊
Yet another great job, Ian! It simply amazes me how some 32,000 people have seen this video but you only have 3000 likes. For God sake, everybody, if you enjoy Ian‘s videos, be man enough to show it. That’s my audience rant. Ian and crew, great job! I wish your audience weren’t so pansy, limp wristed though…ouch, my wrist gets excruciatingly painful just thinking about pressing that like button. Maybe I should call in to work first.
With Iain's vids I like them before watching them. He never dissappoints
Tyrell's Classic Workshop - the best invention for Sunday since the Dinner!
The 2 door coupe is stunning
Heating system: this small, subtile piece of equipment here.....I just love this British humor and understatements. Thank you for another very informative and nicely presented video.
Marvellous to see a beautiful old lady being given the love and respect she deserves. Not that I have ever owned one, but I have always preferred the Bentley to the Rolls Royce, perhaps because of the racing heritage. Goodness only knows what the restoration costs are but thank God for these wonderful owners and the companies like this that keep our heritage running. Long may they reign,.
Thanks Iain for another great video. Cheers, Bob
Another fantastic lesson, every day is a school day
What an elephant of a heater unit, by far the biggest I've ever seen.
Another great video! As a retired engineer, it's great to see the details of these old cars. I can imagine thousands of decisions, prototypes, mistakes, and compromises made by the design teams as they tried to create the best products possible. I loved seeing my products come to life as I'm sure they did in their time.
Car and Driver magazine once described a Cloud III as the finest 1935 Packard ever built. As lovely as they are, they really were brand new antiques by the time the Shadow relieved them of duty.
Always a pleasure!
We had two of these as wedding cars in the early 80's in Sydney. I took my kids to the drive in movies in one of them and you should have seen the looks I got !!
Great! That’s how memories are made!
Dr Ulrich Einhorn wrote a piece on this engine which was very interesting to read. As he was(is?) Bentley's board member for engineering he knows about these things. He wrote that exactly that early design made it very adaptable for turbocharging in later iterations. Version of this very engine was used in the Mulsanne until they dropped it. He claims that the final version with turbos, fuel injection and ecu, the newest version would have been able to idle on the stuff that came out of the exhaust of the S2. Talk about increase in engine efficiency.
Exactly so. I had the pleasure of meeting Dr Ulrich on a few occasions. He’s a very clever and unassuming gent
Fascinating to see the best of both the UK’s and American engineering being used on one car during that era of auto building!
Wow my father would be so proud of the care, consideration and effort you and the team have put into her. She will undoubtedly bring so much pleasure and smiles for generations to come. I cannot believe nearly 50,000 view, you’ve an amazing group of followers. Do you thing we can see some stages of the body work? Single layer metallics created a lot of additional work when using modern paint materials. 😮Thanks again.
As a foundryman it is great to see RR's sensible solutions to self imposed problems! If you ever get the opportunity to film a delve into the RR aero engines, it would be absolutely fascinating given your knowledge. I recently learned about Sir George Eystons Thunderbolt powered by 2 x 2800 Hp Type R V12's, what an era. P.S. loved the whiteboard session last video, made the turbo plumbing types very clear to understand, hope those make regular appearances.
The original design brief for the RR/Bentley L-series V8 was for it to have hemi heads (much like the Chrysler V8 of the time). But there was no way that engine with hemi heads could fit under the bonnet of the Cloud I or II, so they went with the canted wedge head design to make it fit, as Mr. Tyrrell explains in the video. The few photos of the prototype L380 with hemi heads that I've seen show a very impressive looking engine. Too bad RR could not have made that work.
to me, back the front engineering, should have started with the best engine design of the time, eg semi-heads and designed the chassis/engine cowling to fit the shape, with space to service it.
If only you could change the heater core on a modern car by simply removing the front wing! These days you normally have the much bigger job of removing the entire dashboard. And an inspection cover to give access to the spark plugs? What a wonderful idea - again, plenty of cars from the last 20 or so years could have done with such a thing. Engineers of that era seemed to realise that one day someone might need to get at certain things - so they built in a means of doing just that.
Wonderful insights into top class, (for it's time), British engineering, brought to life here by Iain. Evidence of legends passed on to me many years ago by my RR admiring, departed engineer Dad.
Thank you Iain.
British engineering at its encentric best, great insight Iain 😊
Such an enchanting experience again on the Sunday's evening. Seeing an S2/S3 or a Silver Cloud this much exposed with all the elucidation is an entirely new occurrence to me. It's just superb that this is even made possible by Iian. Thank you so much once again 💓
Whatever the make or model you choose to describe you do it with panache and justice. The interest you generate for the vast majority of us only increases....thank you.
Fascinating insight into how RR/Bentley built these beautiful old girls!
Fascinating video, as always. Iain’s knowledge and enthusiasm is incredible!
Loving the Rolls Royce videos, fascinating how they are engineered and put together, ultra modern tech (for the time) and very very old tech all in one vehicle.
Lots of cars you have to go through the wheel wells to get at the spark plugs. Better than engine out, or detaching engine mounts to tilt the engine!
Back in the time where: Why use 8 bolts when you can use 16. I rebuilt 3 Rover 75's and a Rover 90. Very informative, Iain.
I supppose that you have to be a RR service technician apprentice to learn all of this, otherwise no chance. Brilliant!
Wow ! and Wow again ! What a fantastic breakdown of this classic car !
I can see where my 1960 Rover P4 { 2nd owner since 1975 }, got their inspiration from, for their love of complexity !
I WONT be putting a Vee - Eight into it though, I shall follow your rules and just keep it tidy !
Love this series ! Great information !
Thank you !
Stu xx
Another enjoyable & informative episode. You’re a very smooth communicator. Make complex things very easy to understand
My Ford V6 has the same cam drive, and Ford dealt with the noise by using a cam gear with nylon or fibre teeth. I recently fitted a stronger alloy gear, and it was incredibly noisy but is now settling down. I assume this means the mating process is liberating some alloy dust so I'm changing oil and filters very often. Bentley S1 is my favourite car of all time, especially in Smoke Green. One day.....
Nice one Iain,In the 1967 film Robbery there,s a clip of Stanley Baker driving his S3 down the M4 towards Heathrow with the speedo needle at a steady 90mph.I recall that was the year the 70mph limit was made permanent!
Yes indeed- excellent film that!
What don"t you know, Ian? Always had to check the plugs on Jensen Interceptor III; often found loose lead or two after sloppy service - so changed the garage. I hated it under that car-had no pit! Thank you for your detailed knowledge.
Another thoroughly interesting, informative and friendly video that goes a long way to explaining some of the peculiarities of the V8 Cloud and S series cars. Beautifully presented as always, Iain.
Cheers from Hong Kong.
Thank you! And greetings to Hong Kong!
Wow , I knew these older R R’s and Bentley’s were quirky , but not this quirky , great video as usual , more please
Very interesting, fantastic engineering from the 1950’s ! Long before there were any computers to design cars!
Lots of education shown here by Iain regarding this margue and history..Enjoyed the episode.
This could go on for hours, and I'd love it even more!
Iain, you are a GEM ! People, subscribe, this channel deserves such a wider audience.
Thanks Iain. I _do_ hope to see a follow-up at some point, if you can find the time.
Hello lian, Is it possible that you make more videos of the partial restoration of this Bentley?
I only can repeat what other comments said... just fantastic!
These videos make my Sunday night… keep up the good and interesting work..
Maybe just maybe there era vehicles are around today because of how they were built only time will tell from modern technology which we all seem to know build quality is missing wonderful video thanks for your time and expertises
Full geek video, and fantastic as always, thank you very much Iain
This is absolutely mesmerising. Thank you so much for this lesson.
I was having a strange feeling watching these old beautiful "ladies" you Sir showed here, thinking that the love men have for their cars is so strong that could possibly be taken over to future lives or incarnations. I really love cars from this era, maybe I had one in other previous voyage on this planet...
A pleasant visit to a perfectly known museum.
Thank you, Sir
Thanks for this, I come from an engineering background, and found this absolutely fascinating!
More nerdy stuff please, I love it. Merry Christmas to you and yours.
Thank you. The same to you!
Best car guy ever. I don't like cars but I love this man!
The single round headlight look much better than the twin horizontal ones, which remind me of the ones the yanks put on the XJS.
Very interesting ... nice vid as always!
Fascinating! Very interesting to hear the different approaches to develop an v8👍
One of the best episodes I’ve seen 👍🏻
I love a deep dive into a British icon car
They used to say the best balanced engines were a straight 6 or V12 . Clever how they did the alteration to the manifold arrangement to allow engine access , but a pig to change spark plugs ! Is the same on the later Shadow models ? Funny ,you mentioned about the windows misting up , it reminds me seeing a Silver Cloud coupe ( or Bentley variation) , I think it was the Chinese Eye variation travelling northbound on the M5 sometime ago in the rain and the windows were misting terribly, wondered how it was at the time but you may answered that here. The separate chassis models had such beautiful architecture for bodywork .
The heads were different on the Shadow due to the wider bay. Thanks for your comments
Fascinating and excellent narration as always. Going from chassis + body to unibody was a step backward in my opinion. I wonder if ANY 2023 car will be running and driving in 60+ years. I doubt it. Thanks Iain.
Nonsense. Monocoque is superior in performance. Ideas about longevity in order of 60 years have no place in a set of design criteria.
Today's vehicles won't last 60 years as the wiring harness , electrical sensors and computers will not last that long and replacement parts are non existent.
Thank you again for explaining in such detail and clarity. It will be worthwhile to group the episodes on this car which is clearly going to be a standout when finished.
Super interesting Iain, thank you
Hey Iain, the Silver Cloud was originally going to be called the Silver Mist...however, a re-think was necessary as (der) Mist actually means 'Dung Heap' in German - haha
Thank you for your very detailed review of the car internals. I always learn so much about the current car design as well! One question, with the gears instead of a chain/belt, I cannot help the feeling: will this not cause an excessive wear of the metal parts involved? I feel there will be an immense force on the gears when the engine starts or even runs.
The gears are very under stressed. The need just a small oil feed to go on for many thousands of miles
Very interesting content not to be found on other car review channels
Really interesting, beautifully explained, another fascinating history lesson. Many thanks.
In my DC days, there was an S2 in the neighborhood. Loved it, glad now I didn't own it. All the best!
I really enjoyed a technical dive into the inner workings of a vehicle that I'm not particularly familiar with. It's always fun to see how companies from various countries and periods of time approached the many facets of building an automobile.
Thank you so much. I really appreciate you sharing your experience with us. One day, will you explain the relationship between Rolls Royce/Bentley and Aston Martin in terms of the supply of engines.
Love this content I'm not really an old Bentley or Rolls petolhead but thus is so fascinating.
Fascinating! Thank you!
Thank you Iain, that was very enjoyable. Make me glad I only have a TR6 to contend with!
As the owner of a less than perfect 1963 Silver Cloud III this was compulsive viewing. To not only see the various normally hidden gubbins but also understand how and why they were designed to work was fascinating. However I’m now struggling to decide if I should be impressed or scared…
A bit of both to be fair.
Thank you. No surprise about the geared camshaft drive. Lottie the Tank Whisperer has released a series of Meteor engine rebuild videos in the last few weeks. That heater is massive.
The best, best car videos are from you! Really appreciate your great work. So different from mainstream car reviews that flooding the utube. Your channel is a #1 form me.
I enjoyed your earlier video when you were driving the car and was a little shocked to see it all apart. I guess that I shouldn't be - something like this needs to be properly attended to. I like to fiddle with my vehicles but kind of stop when removing a fender is necessary! (or both for that matter). i'd lvoe to have a Bentley one day although I haven't seen any for sale that have had proper maintenance (cheap tires are a dead giveaway).
thank you again, Mr. Tyrrell!
"Deep dive", i.e. time for more extreme nerdiness!
As ever, seriously interesting.
Love your video's especially on RR and Jaguar, I Have owned a Bentley S3 for 6 or 7 years now and drive it as often as possible but the complexity I find unnecessary and would love to modify it with rack & pinion steering and disc brakes but the car drives so well (like no other) that I leave well alone. If it breaks I might do the mods.
They respond very well to diligent maintenance. Glad to hear you’re enjoying your S3 as- is for the moment